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Title: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: Klavdy on March 06, 2011, 03:04:38 AM
Usually see these blokes on Cop bikes.
Be nice to learn how to do this,,,

2010 10 24 ダンロップ ジムカーナ 第5戦 S賀選手 第2ヒート (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9twUAi1Q4o0#)
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: Lotsokids on March 06, 2011, 07:28:46 AM
1. Throttle control
2. Super sticky tires / good pavement
3. Skid bars protecting the plastic and engine makes a rider a LOT more brave.

I've seen a test bike that was built with outrigger wheels to teach a person how far a bike can lean and the conditions it takes to lose traction. It's pretty cool. Something like this:

(http://kneedown.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/dscf3086_cropped.JPG)
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: andyb on March 06, 2011, 07:58:56 AM
Gymkhana, fun stuff, and impressive as hell.  Similar stuff from a guy on a much smaller bike:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2126785378186555755# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2126785378186555755#)

The outrigger bike is part of Keith Code's (http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/custom-bike-california-superbike-schools-leanslide-bike-16110.html) school tools.
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: Flyover Country Joe on March 06, 2011, 08:06:33 AM
 :good2: :good2: :good: And, I didn't hear anything touch down once. Nice.........
       






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Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: junkyardroad on March 06, 2011, 09:35:53 AM
That is cool.  The first thing I thought was thank God for my Renntec bars.
Huge rear sprocket on that bike.
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: 1tinindian on March 06, 2011, 10:00:09 AM
Man has Skilz!

I noticed how he kept his knees tucked in at all times.
Are knees out really needed?

Leon
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: Travis398 on March 06, 2011, 10:20:23 AM
Quote from: 1tinindian on March 06, 2011, 10:00:09 AM
Are knees out really needed?
Leon
If you want a cool spark show it is

Touch Down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QDmn_-3LnM#)
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: Lotsokids on March 06, 2011, 12:18:38 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on March 06, 2011, 10:00:09 AM
...Are knees out really needed?

I taught an Air Force sport bike course from 2007 - 2009. We taught the students to KEEP THE KNEES IN. The only reson to have them out is to be a "radar" for racers to know their lean angle. The other instructor I taught with actually raced and said he sometimes used his knee to "push" himself over if he's going from one corner into an opposite turn. We did, however teach how to GET OFF YOUR SEAT and get your CG down and inside the turn. That seemed to be the hardest to teach as everyone tends to just stay verticle with the bike.
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: Dan Filetti on March 06, 2011, 01:20:41 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on March 06, 2011, 10:00:09 AM
I noticed how he kept his knees tucked in at all times.
Are knees out really needed?

Leon

Uhh,, sometimes the knee AND the elbows are all that prevent you from an 'off':

I give you: Collin Edwards: Jerez '08

colin edwars codo jerez08 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A1qvHihJ40#)

Dan
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: Dan Filetti on March 06, 2011, 01:24:28 PM
No knee save, but one HELL of a save:

Save of the Century - Motorbike Crash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78lKWG8Y7q4#)

Dan
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: Dan Filetti on March 06, 2011, 01:28:48 PM
One more, this one made me laugh out loud:

AMAZING Motorbike Save MUST SEE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FfvEBKdFf8#)
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: AustinFJ on March 06, 2011, 04:53:35 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on March 06, 2011, 01:28:48 PM
One more, this one made me laugh out loud:

AMAZING Motorbike Save MUST SEE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FfvEBKdFf8#)


Watched it, and damn if I didn't laugh too!   :good2:
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: Klavdy on March 06, 2011, 05:34:25 PM
Quote from: Lotsokids on March 06, 2011, 12:18:38 PM

I taught an Air Force sport bike course from 2007 - 2009. We taught the students to KEEP THE KNEES IN. The only reson to have them out is to be a "radar" for racers to know their lean angle. The other instructor I taught with actually raced and said he sometimes used his knee to "push" himself over if he's going from one corner into an opposite turn. We did, however teach how to GET OFF YOUR SEAT and get your CG down and inside the turn. That seemed to be the hardest to teach as everyone tends to just stay verticle with the bike.

Interesting.
Who taught the Instructors for the initial cadre, did the Instructors then set the syllabus and curriculum?
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: AustinFJ on March 06, 2011, 06:30:36 PM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on March 06, 2011, 01:24:28 PM
No knee save, but one HELL of a save:

Save of the Century - Motorbike Crash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78lKWG8Y7q4#)

Dan

An awesome move.  I don't know when this one took place, but I do remember an almost identical one back in '85 with Randy Mamola on a Honda...

Randy "COJONES" Mamola ;-) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vzHO9Evb1g#)
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: Lotsokids on March 06, 2011, 11:16:26 PM
Quote from: Klavdy on March 06, 2011, 05:34:25 PM
Interesting.
Who taught the Instructors for the initial cadre, did the Instructors then set the syllabus and curriculum?

Our lead instructor was a Master Sergeant who was stationed in Germany who raced professionally in Europe (strange mix). He was GOOD. He wrote the curriculum, then was reviewed and approved by headquarters, Air Mobility Command. Then I was chosen as part of 12 riders in the U.S. to go to California and be taught this course. 12-hour days for a week baking in the sun. That was pretty rough. I passed with a super heavy ZX-11. The concern was that guys are being taught by the Motorcycle Safety Foundation, but not able to properly handle a sportbike. Guys were still losing it in corners and getting hurt or killed. After initiating the sportbike course, we saw a 40% decrease in fatalities in my command.

Unfortuately, on the last day, one of our instructors who just completed the course was hit on his way home. An unlicensed driver in a Chevy Suburban ran a red light and hit my buddy on his right side sending him into a coma for 30 days and a medical discharge from the Air Force. It's very sad. We all signed a photo of him going through the course. He won't be able to ride again. Sometimes your world can change in a second.
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: 1tinindian on March 07, 2011, 11:17:18 PM
Quote from: Lotsokids on March 06, 2011, 11:16:26 PM

Unfortunately, on the last day, one of our instructors who just completed the course was hit on his way home. An unlicensed driver in a Chevy Suburban ran a red light and hit my buddy on his right side sending him into a coma for 30 days and a medical discharge from the Air Force. It's very sad. We all signed a photo of him going through the course. He won't be able to ride again. Sometimes your world can change in a second.

After reading this I just had to say, while I was enlisted in the USAF, I rode with a small group of fellow Airman, and one night, one of our group was on his way home on his bike, and while stopped at a stop sign waiting for cross traffic, he was hit from behind by a drunk driver in a car, pushing him through a 4 lane intersection, over a curb, through a hedgerow, and ended up in someones backyard.
He was a "single- digit- miget", as we used to say when someone was 9 or less days from seperation...he died from his injuries.
It was tough loosing him, but it really hurt when his brother came to pick up him personal items.
I have a hard time NOT thinking about things like this when riding, and I feel it has kept me more aware of things that can happen in a blink of an eye.

Sorry for getting off-topic, but I felt I needed to share this.

Leon
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: Lotsokids on March 08, 2011, 10:17:23 AM
Quote from: 1tinindian on March 07, 2011, 11:17:18 PM
Sorry for getting off-topic, but I felt I needed to share this.

Leon

Thanks for sharing that story, Leon. It's sobering. Maybe we should create a new "crash" section to tell stories, funny and not so funny.
Title: Re: This Dude Can Ride
Post by: Pat Conlon on March 08, 2011, 09:18:44 PM
Yea, the longer we hang around motorcycling, the more people we know, get hurt and sometimes die....It always hurts.

Anyhoo...back to Klavdy's post. That is one hell of a rider!   Although what does he weigh? A buck twenty soaking wet?