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General Category => Modifications => Topic started by: TheRadBaron on February 27, 2011, 09:12:50 AM

Title: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: TheRadBaron on February 27, 2011, 09:12:50 AM
My '84 needs a new battery and I plan on getting an AGM.  I don't want to risk damaging the expensive battery by overcharging it so I'd like to address the voltage regulator.  It sounds like the Transpo adjustable regulator is a good solution, but I couldn't really find any information here about it such as a part number.
This regulator looks slick, too.  http://www.electrosport.com/street-bikes/yamaha/fj1200-86-93/nippon-denso-internal-regulator.html (http://www.electrosport.com/street-bikes/yamaha/fj1200-86-93/nippon-denso-internal-regulator.html)
I found a thread from about a year ago where they were being discussed, but no one had reported back after installing one to say how it worked. 
Has anyone tired one of those out? 
What's the best solution for the voltage regulation on these bikes?
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: Travis398 on February 27, 2011, 09:46:40 AM
It might be a good idea to test the voltage output to see if it needs to be replaced.

If so I believe Randy has one in stock, I was just asking about these here http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3347.msg27944#msg27944 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3347.msg27944#msg27944)
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: Pat Conlon on February 27, 2011, 12:07:15 PM
I recommend the external voltage regulator. Isolated from the engine heat and vibrations. Dunno what causes the internal regulators to go wacky, heat? Vibration? Both? Good luck with testing. In the shop, I could not replicate what was happening on the road.
I use the Transpo IB301A which is a adjustable regulator, preset to 14.3 volts. I dialed mine back to 14.0 volts.
scroll down: http://cpgenerator.com/voltageregulators.html (http://cpgenerator.com/voltageregulators.html)
$37 bucks, not too bad.

All is well  Thank you Ed for showing me how to do it.....HTH
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: TheRadBaron on February 27, 2011, 12:38:06 PM
Thanks Pat.  Even if mine tests okay I plan on upgrading it.  If it's a common problem I'd like to fix it, even if it's a preemptive fix.  Do you have instructions available for installing the Transpo unit?
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: Pat Conlon on February 27, 2011, 01:30:55 PM
Here's a write up in the Files section under modifications: http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=661.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=661.0)
Here's some more info. from the yahoo forum: http://autos.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/yamahafj/files/FJ%20Modifications/Regulator%20Info/ (http://autos.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/yamahafj/files/FJ%20Modifications/Regulator%20Info/)
Working slowly, it took me a hour to do it....Cheers!   Pat  
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: simi_ed on February 27, 2011, 02:26:55 PM
HTH
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: TheRadBaron on February 27, 2011, 02:33:42 PM
Man, I gotta brush up on my internet acronyms.  Military jargon I can do, but I can't figure this stuff out.
What does HTH mean?
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: Harvy on February 27, 2011, 03:06:46 PM
HTH = HOPE THAT HELPS

HTH
Harvy
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: FJmonkey on February 27, 2011, 03:16:28 PM
Quote from: Harvy on February 27, 2011, 03:06:46 PM
HTH = HOPE THAT HELPS

HTH
Harvy
WLA = We Love Acronyms.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: Travis398 on February 27, 2011, 04:03:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on February 27, 2011, 12:07:15 PM
I recommend the external voltage regulator. Isolated from the engine heat and vibrations. Dunno what causes the internal regulators to go wacky, heat? Vibration? Both? Good luck with testing. In the shop, I could not replicate what was happening on the road.
I use the Transpo IB301A which is a adjustable regulator, preset to 14.3 volts. I dialed mine back to 14.0 volts.
scroll down: http://cpgenerator.com/voltageregulators.html (http://cpgenerator.com/voltageregulators.html)
$37 bucks, not too bad.

All is well  Thank you Ed for showing me how to do it.....HTH

Pat, where was this useful information when I asked the question?

This doesn't have anything to do with Weymouth does it?



as far as the HTH signature, It does come across with a negative feel.

as if they are saying "I hope everyone else post is wrong, Hope mine is the one that helps you"

HTH 
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: simi_ed on February 27, 2011, 04:37:39 PM
Whoa a minute.  HTH means "Here to help".  If that comes across as a negative ...

HTH

Ed
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: Klavdy on February 27, 2011, 05:40:31 PM
HTFU or STFU.

HTH,,,
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: Pat Conlon on February 27, 2011, 06:08:54 PM
Quote from: Travis398 on February 27, 2011, 04:03:09 PM

Pat, where was this useful information when I asked the question?

This doesn't have anything to do with Weymouth does it?

Hey Travis, sorry I missed your question. When did you ask it? (edit: never mind, I see your post, I just missed it)
As a moderator, I do try to review the all questions, when I'm not sure, I don't answer. I do know first hand about the voltage regulator issue after living with the problem for 25 years.... before I got off my lazy ass and fixed it.
I think we should pull all the Vreg info.over from the Yahoo forum and have it here in our Files section so folks have better access.

I don't understand your second question, what does Bob have to do with a Transpo Vreg? Please clarify.

Quote from: Travis398 on February 27, 2011, 04:03:09 PM

as far as the HTH signature, It does come across with a negative feel.

as if they are saying "I hope everyone else post is wrong, Hope mine is the one that helps you"
 

HTH = Hope this Helps... and you took it as a "negative feeling"? Come on Travis. I'm sorry you "feel" that way. It's not what I intended... Peace out.  Pat
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: junkyardroad on March 12, 2011, 07:33:48 PM
My '89 had an overcharging problem when I bought it. The battery boiled over and caused some cosmetic damage which in turn led him to sell it to me.  After a few minor issues in even with the agm battery I decided to do the Transpo regulator mod per the pdf links above.  Very easy to do and worked great (so far). The regulator was allegedly set a 14.3 but it read a steady 15.5 so a quarter turn counterclockwise turn to the adjuster was nessessary.  The voltage varies from 13.5 at idle to 14.9 at 5000 and up.

Pretty happy with this, thanks to all who posted the tech.
Title: Re: Voltage regulators revisited.
Post by: racerrad8 on April 29, 2012, 02:43:47 PM
The new RaceTech Electronics regulator is now available.

Here is the link to the installation video; http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=6427.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=6427.0)

They are listed here; Voltage Regulator (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Electrical%3ARegulator)

Randy - RPM