i shall look at doing the tip with the ignition avancer but what is the best performance tip you can give with out a massive cost
Stop eatin' all the pies, ye great fat coont.
Good tuneup so it runs the way it's supposed to, then some track time to learn how to use it.
Quote from: elbows on December 07, 2010, 05:28:56 AM
i shall look at doing the tip with the ignition avancer but what is the best performance tip you can give with out a massive cost
Help us out. Please define what you mean by:
1) "performance"
and
2) "massive cost"
What are you trying to do?
I'm going to move this topic over to the mods section. Cheers! Pat
Also sorta depends on where you want the performance. Braking? Top speed? Quickness? Low rev power? Long distanec comfort? Cornering?
Quote from: Klavdy on December 07, 2010, 07:20:05 AM
Stop eatin' all the pies, ye great fat coont.
sorry i am not a fat coont
Quote from: andyb on December 07, 2010, 08:00:06 AM
Good tuneup so it runs the way it's supposed to, then some track time to learn how to use it.
as a ex racer a long time a go that should not be a problem and as i have 3 yamaha,s 1200 1 with 98,000 miles on the clock and one re built ( re pick up sat ) and one with 45,000 on the clock
so i do know how to use it !!!!!!!!! do you
Quote from: andyb on December 07, 2010, 01:52:12 PM
Also sorta depends on where you want the performance. Braking? Top speed? Quickness? Low rev power? Long distanec comfort? Cornering?
just more power mid range to top end thanks
Quote from: elbows on December 07, 2010, 02:47:28 PM
Quote from: andyb on December 07, 2010, 08:00:06 AM
Good tuneup so it runs the way it's supposed to, then some track time to learn how to use it.
as a ex racer a long time a go that should not be a problem and as i have 3 yamaha,s 1200 1 with 98,000 miles on the clock and one re built ( re pick up sat ) and one with 45,000 on the clock
so i do know how to use it !!!!!!!!! do you
For someone asking for help, your tone is getting a little pissy. You're just an anonymous user ID to most everyone on here. We don't know squat about you or your abilities.
Then you ask what is essentially an open ended rookie question and get fairly basic and simple answers because the nature of your question kind of indicates that you may not know that much.
So, I have to ask. If you've got all this FJ experience, why don't you already know the answer? Or at least know that the answer is "It depends on what you want."
DavidR.
Quote from: elbows on December 07, 2010, 05:28:56 AM
............. but what is the best performance tip you can give with out a massive cost
Try a K&N filter and a Dynotune Jet Kit.
do you still have the factory exhaust? I know It's not cheap to replace but not really a "massive cost"
Quote from: billwest on December 07, 2010, 06:26:02 PM
Quote from: elbows on December 07, 2010, 05:28:56 AM
............. but what is the best performance tip you can give with out a massive cost
Try a K&N filter and a Dynotune Jet Kit.
K&Ns are crap, go with UNI..... K&Ns pass a LOT of fine silt, good way to open up the bore without taking the engine apart.
Turbo kit.
NOS? over size pistons larger inlets? a Jato rocket makes em go fast :biggrin:
Fix up the crap suspension and take it to the Nurberg Ring, you won't need anything better!!
And remember don't let the bike take you some where that your brain hasn't arrived at least two seconds earlier
On top of the above also put some DENSO Iridium spark plugs in. :biggrin:
Quote from: Klavdy on December 07, 2010, 07:20:05 AM
Stop eatin' all the pies, ye great fat coont.
thanks for that will look into the food intake
Quote from: elbows on December 07, 2010, 05:28:56 AM
i shall look at doing the tip with the ignition avancer but what is the best performance tip you can give with out a massive cost
Being new here myself, I am a little taken back by the general attitude of some of the members. They seem to come across a little to arrogant for my likes, we'll see how this goes.
The best performance tip I'm going to give you is this - perform a complete and full tune up on the motorcycle, as someone did so kindly mention.
Start with a compression test on a warm engine, if you've got a good engine, we'll move ahead.
Do a "dry" and a "wet" compression test. By "wet" I mean squirt a small amount of oil into each cylinder after your initial test and review the results - if you have a dramatic increase "wet" you may have some issues with the rings. If the compression is low, and there is no change "wet", it's possibly you have an issue with the valves.
Next, move on to a full tune - including a valve adjustment. These are some of the easiest motorcycles to work on, they are a true pleasure. Buy an oil filter, motorcycle specific oil, spark plugs, a valve cover gasket and buddy up with your local shop. Many times, if you are not a jerk, the local shop will loan you their valve adjustment tool or rent it to you (you may have to put down a refundable deposit), and they will swap shims with you for free or for a nominal amount. You'll also want to synch the carbs, that also requires a special tool.
If the bike sat for a long period of time, the carbs may need to be cleaned - most common way to tell if there may be a carb problem is if the bike takes a really long time to warm up and never accepts throttle without falling on its face - a huge hestiation when the throttle is opened is a sign of a plugged pilot/slow jet circuit.
Moving on -
For day to day riding, leave it all stock - including the intake air filter. You'll have ton's of power where you will really use it 95% of the time.
If you want to bump the power up, remember, it is a trade off - you will basically be moving it around. You'll see a large increase with a exhaust mod (slip on cans or a full system) and individual air cleaners/jetted carbs.
Another thing to consider is the longevity of the engine - most mods will reduce the life of the beast. And there is also the chance of lowering the resale potential - buyers generally pay more for a stock motorcycle.
There is my two cents, take it for what it is worth.
I hope that helps you out a bit, best of luck to you.
Quote from: motohorseman on December 26, 2010, 07:44:46 AM
Being new here myself, I am a little taken back by the general attitude of some of the members. They seem to come across a little to arrogant for my likes, we'll see how this goes.
I just read all 4 of your posts and the responses to them. I see no evidence of 'arrogance'. If you are reading other posts then surely you must realize that there are established, in some cases sarcastic even, relationships between other members.
Anyway, I think this is a great group of warm, knowledgeable, generous folks, from where I sit.
Dan
Quote from: Dan Filetti on December 26, 2010, 08:36:15 AM
Anyway, I think this is a great group of warm, knowledgeable, generous folks, from where I sit.
Dan
Mostly.
Asshole.
Quote from: andyb on December 26, 2010, 09:02:42 AM
Mostly.
Asshole.
Well I guess we know who got coal for Christmas this year. :)
Quote from: andyb on December 26, 2010, 09:02:42 AM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on December 26, 2010, 08:36:15 AM
Anyway, I think this is a great group of warm, knowledgeable, generous folks, from where I sit.
Dan
Mostly.
Asshole.
Been looking in the mirror again Andy ?
Merry Christmas !
Kookaloo!
Frank
Huh? Who pissed in your corn flakes Andy?
Quote from: pdxfj on December 26, 2010, 10:46:57 AM
Quote from: andyb on December 26, 2010, 09:02:42 AM
Mostly.
Asshole.
Well I guess we know who got coal for Christmas this year. :)
Just giving ya shit :) too much brotherly love around here with the holiday and all...
Quote from: motohorseman on December 26, 2010, 07:44:46 AM
Quote from: elbows on December 07, 2010, 05:28:56 AM
i shall look at doing the tip with the ignition avancer but what is the best performance tip you can give with out a massive cost
Being new here myself, I am a little taken back by the general attitude of some of the members. They seem to come across a little to arrogant for my likes, we'll see how this goes.
Who gives a toss what you like, n00b.
Fit in or fuck off.
Quote from: motohorseman on December 26, 2010, 07:44:46 AM
Being new here myself, I am a little taken back by the general attitude of some of the members. They seem to come across a little to arrogant for my likes, we'll see how this goes.
Quote from: Klavdy on December 26, 2010, 03:37:09 PM
Who gives a toss what you like, n00b.
Fit in or fuck off.
+1
Son of a bitch, have to agree with Klavdy for once.
Randy T
Indy
Quote from: rktmanfj on December 26, 2010, 04:53:46 PM
Quote from: motohorseman on December 26, 2010, 07:44:46 AM
Being new here myself, I am a little taken back by the general attitude of some of the members. They seem to come across a little to arrogant for my likes, we'll see how this goes.
Quote from: Klavdy on December 26, 2010, 03:37:09 PM
Who gives a toss what you like, n00b.
Fit in or fuck off.
+1
Son of a bitch, have to agree with Klavdy for once.
Randy T
Indy
That's alright mate, you're probably still drunk from Xmas day.
You should be fine by Tuesday.
I am, on general principles, a most tolerant and enlightened person and this forum is pretty much like a virtual pub,we talk shit,talk about technical issues, laugh, argue and carry on like we'd do in a pub or around a camp-fire.
There's nothing most of us write on these pages that we wouldn't say face to face and we do say these things face to face when we get a chance to meet up.
Quote from: motohorseman on December 26, 2010, 07:44:46 AM
Being new here myself, I am a little taken back by the general attitude of some of the members. They seem to come across a little to arrogant for my likes, we'll see how this goes.
Don't worry, my New Years resolution is to have a better attitude. :empathy3:
Quote from: Klavdy on December 26, 2010, 03:37:09 PM
Who gives a toss what you like, n00b.
Fit in or fuck off.
Don't mind Klavdy.. he's just pissed he doesn't ever get a reach around. Even on Christmas.
Quote from: motohorseman on December 26, 2010, 07:44:46 AM
Being new here myself, I am a little taken back by the general attitude of some of the members. They seem to come across a little to arrogant for my likes, we'll see how this goes.
Aptly put, motohorseman! I'd guess some of the very knowledgable folks on here are growing weary of putting a lot of effort into trying to help out the newbies and getting not much in return. Thus the occasional snippy responses to awkward posts. I know I owe some members thank yous (and cash!) as I have received far more than I have been able to give from great members on this forum.
Dan makes a good point though, there are many old friends and rally attendees that like to trade friendly barbs, which can be offputting to new folks.
Your spelling and punctuation are excellent, you express your point coherently, your replies seem well reasoned, and you strive to be helpful. This should protect you from most of the malevolent spirits here, and stir up the simple ones.
Doug
Quote from: pdxfj on December 26, 2010, 11:53:20 PM
Quote from: Klavdy on December 26, 2010, 03:37:09 PM
Who gives a toss what you like, n00b.
Fit in or fuck off.
Don't mind Klavdy.. he's just pissed he doesn't ever get a reach around. Even on Christmas.
I don't mind mate, hell, he can have all the reach arounds he wants.