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Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: wakdady on November 19, 2010, 03:54:36 PM
so....... has anyone raised the rear via dogbones? or is it alright the way it would be after this swap?
I only ask, and bring up this overabused topic, because i've read in some places that the overall diameter of the tire was smaller than the 16".
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: Pat Conlon on November 19, 2010, 04:32:30 PM
I moved this post out of the Files Section and into the appropriate section.  Don't ask questions in the Files Section. They won't get answered.

This same question has been asked and answered here: http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3024.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3024.0)
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: andyb on November 19, 2010, 05:10:08 PM
Depends on the tire you use.  A 170/60R17 is a pinch shorter than a 150/80B16.  If you have the 89+ model, you can make your own dogbones and put the rear wherever you like.  Read what Pat linked.
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: SILVERGOAT on December 08, 2010, 08:14:46 AM
I have a 95 YZF600R rear wheel with a 160/70r17 Bridgestone BT021 and have not modified my bog bones in any way. When the bike is on the center stand, I have about 1/8"-1/4" daylight between the tire and ground. Handling and ride is excellent. Mathematically, this tire will give you roughly .37" or 9.4 mm more in overall rear tire height(diameter) and 1.17" or 29.72mm more in circumference than the stock 150/80r16. This will take a few hundred RPM off at any given speed/gear combination, in other words take away a small amount of mechanical gear. I chose to stay with the stock sprocket sizes. 
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: JCainFJ on December 08, 2010, 09:25:57 PM

Yes, its an easy mod. The modern tires you can now mount should make it easy to drag hard parts. My 89 is over an inch higher in the back and the extra clearance is .......usefull. If your centerstand is worn or damaged you can add metal to the "up stop" area to gain extra clearance.



Quote from: wakdady on November 19, 2010, 03:54:36 PM
so....... has anyone raised the rear via dogbones? or is it alright the way it would be after this swap?
I only ask, and bring up this overabused topic, because i've read in some places that the overall diameter of the tire was smaller than the 16".
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: wakdady on February 03, 2011, 03:47:25 PM
looks like i gotta rehash this one.... got the wheel, got most if not all the components. Now I need a chain. To which spec do i shop for a chain? does it need to be a special size? or would a normal FJ1200 kit work fine?
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: Marsh White on February 03, 2011, 04:03:27 PM
A regular FJ1200 chain will work just fine.  112 links if I remember correctly.  I just always order a 120 link chain and go from there.
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: craigo on February 03, 2011, 04:50:23 PM
On my 90, the stock sprockets are 17/40 with a 530 chain.  I think it's a 120 link chain.  Just a tip, don't use the clip style master link that comes with cheaper chains.  Get a riveted one and save yourself a problem.  Just MHO.

Cheers,

CraigO
90FJ1200
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: wakdady on February 03, 2011, 05:11:16 PM
i typically just order kits so i dont have to worry about link count.
but with the YZF wheel the rear sprocket might be a problem.
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: SlowOldGuy on February 03, 2011, 06:36:53 PM
I am recalling a 110 link chain.  Most sources only carry the 120 link version and you have to cut it down to size.

DavidR.
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: tqmx1 on February 03, 2011, 09:45:30 PM
The YZF hub takes the same sprocket as the FJs and most other Yamaha  bikes 600cc or above so what ever the FJ calls for chain length would not change. (unless you swapped swingarms at the same time)
Title: Re: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: Arnie on February 04, 2011, 07:21:03 AM
OEM stock chain for FJ's is 110 links of 530 chain.  This will fit from 17x39 to 17x41 sprockets.  I'm using a 18x42 set of sprockets and need 112 links.
As most of us have 'discovered' - buy the best O or X ring HEAVY DUTY 530 chain you can, the FJ eats cheap chains for breakfast.  The more expensive chains end up lasting way way longer.

Arnie
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: simi_ed on February 04, 2011, 11:24:56 AM
18x38, on 110 links ...
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: wakdady on February 05, 2011, 11:17:27 AM
okay cool, and lastly... which rear sprocket do i use? or are they the same? Since i have to buy a new chain and front sprocket, the rear needs replaced as well.
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: tqmx1 on February 05, 2011, 12:23:00 PM
Be it FJ FZ YZF the rear sprockets are all the same.
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: wakdady on February 11, 2011, 04:46:47 PM
and..... i'm back, lol. since the outer diameter of the yzf wheel with tire is smaller than stock, what gearing should i get to keep it as close to stock as possible? i am about to order a chain and figure i'll go ahead and buy the sprockets all together.
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: rktmanfj on February 11, 2011, 04:49:58 PM
Quote from: wakdady on February 11, 2011, 04:46:47 PM
and..... i'm back, lol. since the outer diameter of the yzf wheel with tire is smaller than stock, what gearing should i get to keep it as close to stock as possible? i am about to order a chain and figure i'll go ahead and buy the sprockets all together.

18/40 is working pretty well for me...

Randy T
Indy
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: craigo on February 11, 2011, 05:07:09 PM
17/40 worked for me.  Same speed to RPM ratio with a 170/60-17 Dunlop.

CraigO
90FJ1200
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: wakdady on February 23, 2011, 09:36:21 AM
okay, after some waiting i finally have all the parts to be machined. BUT, the spacer between the wheel and cushdrive looks different from what I'm seeing on the PDF.
From my understanding, there are only 3 parts that need machined; cush drive, spacer and caliper perch.
"Spacer between carrier and wheel - 90387-2004E-00 <--- gets machined"
I ordered this part and it looks like this
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_rX4-nVlemEE/TWUNhI2rX5I/AAAAAAAABko/wjxpP4z8DzQ/s640/IMG_0253.JPG)

but the pdf shows something more like this
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_rX4-nVlemEE/TWUo4pimAUI/AAAAAAAABlw/5kJ17Dg8x14/s512/spacer.JPG)

any help?
Title: Re: YZF 600 Rear Wheel Mod
Post by: andyb on February 23, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
Oh hell.  Wrong spacer.  That's the hat spacer on the other side.  Can't believe I fudged that.

   90387-2004C-00

Is the part number for the spacer that needs machined.  It's a straight piece of round stock, basically.  PM sent.