Seems there is not alot of information on this model year........and what generation it falls under.
I have seen some posts from others on here that state that it is of the '89-'90 generation.........However, I have viewed pictures of various '88 models (one specifically being the one that belongs to "Lotsokids") that have 16" wheels, and anti-dive forks. Wich would put it in the '86-'87 generation........
Did different countries get different '88 models/specs?
What exactly is it? :unknown:
Could help with sourcing replacement parts for others that are overseas.......
We got them here in Canada. They were essentially an 89 model. Same color etc. Was the first year with he 17in front end. 86 was the last ear with anti-dive forks.
Cheers..Jake
i was pretty confused about this too, and assumed since i had never seen a black and red FJ that must be an 88'. so i brought it up here
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2469.msg20798#msg20798 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2469.msg20798#msg20798) and came away thinking that Lotsokids really has an 87'
and some countries got black and red in 87'........still confused.
US dealers did not get the '88 FJs because there were too many of those ugly red/white ones sitting in the showrooms... :bomb: (popcorn)
Randy T
Indy
Now Randy :shok:
Don't blame the flagship bike, for poor US bike sales the early 80s :dash1: :rofl: (popcorn)
Bob W
Did the US get this color in 87'?
(http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2005%5C02%5C18%5Cbikepics-294178-full.jpg)
Here are some pics of 88's in Canada and Europe.
http://www.bikepics.com/yamaha/fj1200/88/pics.asp (http://www.bikepics.com/yamaha/fj1200/88/pics.asp)
Same as an 89 as far a I can see.
Cheers...Jake
Here is one that is supposed to be an 88.
Has the 87 colour scheme on it (of course it could have had plastics replaced)......the gold callipers I think were on 89s, and it seems to be a 17 front wheel.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150508861870&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_2070wt_1140 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150508861870&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_2070wt_1140)
Harvy
Thanks Harvy, now I'm even more confused.
it did look like the 87 colors, but would Yamaha really make both body styles in 88?
I have a 88 FJ
If anyone wish to have photos to compare I'd be happy to provide.
one photo is in the gallery.
Alain
Quote from: Harvy on October 26, 2010, 05:16:12 PM
Here is one that is supposed to be an 88.
Has the 87 colour scheme on it (of course it could have had plastics replaced)......the gold callipers I think were on 89s, and it seems to be a 17 front wheel.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150508861870&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_2070wt_1140 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150508861870&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_2070wt_1140)
Harvy
This one, the turn signals, fairing, and side scoops look like '86-'87, but the forks and wheels look like '89-'90?
This one, the turn signals, fairing, and side scoops look like '86-'87, but the forks and wheels look like '89-'90?
Agreed....... I wonder, seeing as the US (the biggest market) did not receive '88, whether Yamaha decided to use some of their remaining parts from earlier years for some markets? And maybe newer running gear (wheels, callipers etc) from the soon to be produced '89 also?
There appear to be some colour scheme differences for most years post '87.
My '91 for instance, had different colours on the chin fairing when compared to the US version...... the lower colour on mine (a Japanese domestic model) was grey, where the '91s I see in the US it's white. My OEM seat also had a strap that ran across the seat between the rider and pillion area - I've not seen that on any other models.
That one on eBay here in Australia has (according to the seller) a production date of July '88. Yet it seems the bike should have been produced earlier than that in the year, with the final 4 digits of the VIN being 0444 suggesting quite early in the production run of that model.
My '91 has a production date of late Nov 90.......... which should put it as a '90 model, but it is '91, with rubber engine mounts and the trapezoid headlight.
Just a thought
Harvy
Quote from: Harvy on October 26, 2010, 05:16:12 PM
Here is one that is supposed to be an 88.
Has the 87 colour scheme on it (of course it could have had plastics replaced)......the gold callipers I think were on 89s, and it seems to be a 17 front wheel.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150508861870&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_2070wt_1140 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150508861870&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_2070wt_1140)
Harvy
That one looks like an '87 with a later ('88-'89) front end.
Randy T
Indy
Quote from: Travis398 on October 26, 2010, 04:59:20 PM
Did the US get this color in 87'?
(http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2005%5C02%5C18%5Cbikepics-294178-full.jpg)
If we did, I've never seen one.
Randy T
Indy
Who got this FJ? speaking of Elusive models
(http://www.asl-testsite.co.uk/motors/normal/Yamaha-FJ1100-1983.jpg)
Quote from: Travis398 on October 26, 2010, 06:58:30 PM
Who got this FJ? speaking of Elusive models
(http://www.asl-testsite.co.uk/motors/normal/Yamaha-FJ1100-1983.jpg)
That is the Tootsie Roll special edition- Brown and Orange.
Honestly that just looks like a bad quality scan of the black/red/white from 84, as the tires are brownish also. Wonder if it was a prerelease thing.
(http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20%20A/Yamaha%20FJ1100%2084%20%204.jpg)
I have seen (in the US anyway) bikes titled for the year they were sold. I'm not sure if this due to a particular state's laws or a dealer not wanting the customer to know a bike has been hanging around the showroom for a while.
Quote from: Harvy on October 26, 2010, 06:32:05 PM
My '91 has a production date of late Nov 90.......... which should put it as a '90 model, but it is '91, with rubber engine mounts and the trapezoid headlight.
Harvy
That's quite interesting as my neighbor has a bike titled as a '90, but it is blue and white with the manly pink stripe, trapezoidal headlight, rubber mounted engine etc. I'll have to get the serial number and compare it to both my '91 and yours.
Cheers,
Arnie
Quote from: Arnie on October 27, 2010, 08:14:26 AM
Quote from: Harvy on October 26, 2010, 06:32:05 PM
My '91 has a production date of late Nov 90.......... which should put it as a '90 model, but it is '91, with rubber engine mounts and the trapezoid headlight.
Harvy
That's quite interesting as my neighbor has a bike titled as a '90, but it is blue and white with the manly pink stripe, trapezoidal headlight, rubber mounted engine etc. I'll have to get the serial number and compare it to both my '91 and yours.
Cheers,
Arnie
My '91 is #496 and was produced 01/91 (replete with pink stripe) according to the damn near impossible to see decal over the oil cooler.
The "new model year" used to be in the August timeframe for the auto manufacturers. Now days it seems to be more at random. Many models are deemed "early-release" for exclusivity hype.
No surprise that a '91 model would have a production date in late '90.
DavidR.
so it looks like the 88 FJ is................
the second generation 86' 87' style in blue/white and black/red in some counties. (maybe the countries Japan didn't like, got the old stock?)
and other countries got the third generation 89' style in silver/white and "shiny black"
agree?
(popcorn)
Quote from: Travis398 on October 30, 2010, 06:56:46 PM
so it looks like the 88 FJ is................
the second generation 86' 87' style in blue/white and black/red in some counties. (maybe the countries Japan didn't like, got the old stock?)
and other countries got the third generation 89' style in silver/white and "shiny black"
agree?
(popcorn)
Several '88s I have seen posted look exactly like my silver/white '89 (except for Black Sunshine, which started out looking that way).
Randy T
Indy
I have an 88 3CV in the white, red and silver. It is a Canadian model, which is identical to the US 89.
Kevin.
The Canadian '84 was the same red/white as the US '85
DavidR.