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Title: Side Stand
Post by: Scooterbob on September 17, 2010, 11:38:56 AM
Anyone ever had to replace the side stand?  Mine looks to be a little worn at the pivot area and it seems as if it's welded to the frame.  Any solutions?  It seems that my FJ leans a little too far and I'm afraid of it falling over.  Of course I can use the center stand, but that's a PIA every time I stop somewhere.
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: RichBaker on September 17, 2010, 06:43:47 PM
I replaced mine a couple years ago.... it was worn in the pivot.  Dragging on the shifter every downshift and loose and rattly. New stand got rid of all the issues... :gamer:
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Scooterbob on September 17, 2010, 06:58:20 PM
Process?  Did you just grind off the old one and weld on the new? Easy as that?  Remember price of stand?
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Arnie on September 17, 2010, 09:14:04 PM
Bob,

It's bolted on.  No need for an angle grinder.
You can also just shim the pivot to take out the slop.

See the XPD here:  http://tinyurl.com/2deve2z (http://tinyurl.com/2deve2z)

Cheers,
Arnie
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Marsh White on September 17, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
The slop is from the steel wearing down over time.  I have actually had some success from creating a plastic "Washer" that is slotted to fit the "rounded rectangle" profile to take up some of the space.  The smoothness of the washer creates a bushing of sorts.  Depending on the plastic used - it will last for years.

I like Rich's idea of getting a new kickstand better though.  I'll have to price that out...
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: RichBaker on September 18, 2010, 01:14:58 AM
I didn't do anything to the frame lug, it appears to be harder, all or most of the wear was in the pivot hole in the stand.... I was considering modifying the hole by adding a wrist pin bearing from a 2-smoke, but didn't.  For most of a year I tried shimming and washers and such, nothing worked well for very long... bought the new stand and I'm MUCH happier.
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: andyb on September 18, 2010, 07:36:57 AM
Quote from: Marsh White on September 17, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
The slop is from the steel wearing down over time.  I have actually had some success from creating a plastic "Washer" that is slotted to fit the "rounded rectangle" profile to take up some of the space.  The smoothness of the washer creates a bushing of sorts.  Depending on the plastic used - it will last for years.

I like Rich's idea of getting a new kickstand better though.  I'll have to price that out...

Would be tempted to consider this and rebush the stand with bronze, should last near forever then.
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Scooterbob on September 18, 2010, 08:11:20 AM
Quote from: Marsh White on September 17, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
The slop is from the steel wearing down over time.  I have actually had some success from creating a plastic "Washer" that is slotted to fit the "rounded rectangle" profile to take up some of the space.  The smoothness of the washer creates a bushing of sorts.  Depending on the plastic used - it will last for years.

I understand making a washer. But what do you mean about it being "slotted"?  I have access to some very durable and machinable nylon. Maybe that would work for now. Any photos of said washer setup?
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Pat Conlon on September 22, 2010, 08:14:47 PM
Quote from: Marsh White on September 17, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
I like Rich's idea of getting a new kickstand better though.  I'll have to price that out...

Marsh, Rich and others, don't get a new sidestand just yet.

Wait for a bit.

Not to drop names, but... A guy we know as "the hippie" is gonna come up with some uber-cool extended sidestands (+1.5") for our raised FJ's.
Retention of the oem sidestand switch will be retained.

Stay tuned. Hang loose (get it?) This is gonna be worth the wait.
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Scooterbob on September 22, 2010, 08:28:34 PM
Lord, please grant me patience.....but please hurry.
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Harvy on September 22, 2010, 10:30:39 PM
Yes please Pat..........its sometimes not easy to find a block of wood to put under it..... :dash2: :wacko2: :wacko1:

Harvy
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: andyb on September 23, 2010, 01:25:38 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 22, 2010, 08:14:47 PM
Quote from: Marsh White on September 17, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
I like Rich's idea of getting a new kickstand better though.  I'll have to price that out...

Marsh, Rich and others, don't get a new sidestand just yet.

Wait for a bit.

Not to drop names, but... A guy we know as "the hippie" is gonna come up with some uber-cool extended sidestands (+1.5") for our raised FJ's.
Retention of the oem sidestand switch will be retained.

Stay tuned. Hang loose (get it?) This is gonna be worth the wait.


Gosh, if that was adjustable both ways it'd also help the  drag guys too.... :)
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: RichBaker on September 23, 2010, 06:50:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 22, 2010, 08:14:47 PM
Quote from: Marsh White on September 17, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
I like Rich's idea of getting a new kickstand better though.  I'll have to price that out...

Marsh, Rich and others, don't get a new sidestand just yet.

Wait for a bit.

Not to drop names, but... A guy we know as "the hippie" is gonna come up with some uber-cool extended sidestands (+1.5") for our raised FJ's.
Retention of the oem sidestand switch will be retained.

Stay tuned. Hang loose (get it?) This is gonna be worth the wait.

It's 3 or 4 years too late for me, Paddy.....    :drinks:
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Scooterbob on November 19, 2010, 08:17:48 AM
QuoteMarsh, Rich and others, don't get a new sidestand just yet.

Wait for a bit.

Not to drop names, but... A guy we know as "the hippie" is gonna come up with some uber-cool extended sidestands (+1.5") for our raised FJ's.
Retention of the oem sidestand switch will be retained.

Stay tuned. Hang loose (get it?) This is gonna be worth the wait.

Any update?   :unknown: I'm getting tired of carrying a block of wood in my tank bag everywhere I go.  Plus it's embarrassing.  :rofl2:
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Pat Conlon on November 19, 2010, 01:48:01 PM
Sorry Bob, I forgot all about this....I just fired off a e-mail.  I'll put this on my calendar to assure that I follow up.  Pat

Quote from: Scooterbob on November 19, 2010, 08:17:48 AM
Any update?   :unknown: I'm getting tired of carrying a block of wood in my tank bag everywhere I go.  Plus it's embarrassing.  :rofl2:
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Scooterbob on November 19, 2010, 02:17:02 PM
Much appreciated Amigo!   :hi:
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: FeralRdr on June 22, 2011, 12:49:21 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 22, 2010, 08:14:47 PM
Quote from: Marsh White on September 17, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
I like Rich's idea of getting a new kickstand better though.  I'll have to price that out...

Marsh, Rich and others, don't get a new sidestand just yet.

Wait for a bit.

Not to drop names, but... A guy we know as "the hippie" is gonna come up with some uber-cool extended sidestands (+1.5") for our raised FJ's.
Retention of the oem sidestand switch will be retained.

Stay tuned. Hang loose (get it?) This is gonna be worth the wait.

Any update on extended sidestands?
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: racerrad8 on June 22, 2011, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: FeralRdr on June 22, 2011, 12:49:21 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 22, 2010, 08:14:47 PM
Quote from: Marsh White on September 17, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
I like Rich's idea of getting a new kickstand better though.  I'll have to price that out...

Marsh, Rich and others, don't get a new sidestand just yet.

Wait for a bit.

Not to drop names, but... A guy we know as "the hippie" is gonna come up with some uber-cool extended sidestands (+1.5") for our raised FJ's.
Retention of the oem sidestand switch will be retained.

Stay tuned. Hang loose (get it?) This is gonna be worth the wait.

Any update on extended sidestands?

I know Pat had his installed...

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Scooterbob on June 22, 2011, 01:47:57 PM
I'm still patiently waiting............. (popcorn)
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Pat Conlon on June 22, 2011, 06:25:59 PM
Hey guys, I have Jon Cain's sidestand pad extension and it works great. Adjustable and reversible, very cool.
I'll take some picts tomorrow and do a write up.    Sorry for the delay.    Cheers! Paddy
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Pat Conlon on June 26, 2011, 10:06:21 PM
Here ya go Bob, sorry it took so long: http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=4325.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=4325.0)
Title: Re: Side Stand
Post by: Scooterbob on June 27, 2011, 07:11:34 AM
Awesome info Pat. I had already had an idea similar to this one. Just didn't develop it as far as adding the aluminum. Nice touch.  :good:

I will begin making mine today.