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Title: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: Arnie on August 06, 2010, 03:36:21 AM
Ok, all you smart guys who know everything about all the various years FJ....

I have an '89 main fairing for sale. 
Islandbum (aka Benny) wants a fairing that hasn't been beat on and repaired poorly.

We've agreed a price and I've even found a way to get it to him at the right price :-)

HOWEVER, although his bike was described as an '88, it looks like an '86 to me.
(You can see pics in his intro and more pics of his fairing in the parts for sale thrread about this)

Who knows if the '89 fairing will fit his subframe, and if any of the other parts scoops, lights, indicators, will fit?
Or how hard it would be to make it fit.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Cheers,
Arnie
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: Arnie on August 09, 2010, 09:07:34 PM
Very surprised that there are none of the "smart guys" I expected to have all the answers to my questions about compatibility between '86 and '89 fairings.
Luckily after a couple of days of no replies, I posted to the Yahoo lists as well, where I did get replies.  As I suspected, this swap will not work easily or cheaply if you want the bike to look and function properly.  (previous sentence is FYI)
At least IslandBum and I discovered this info before shipping the thing about 2,000kms.

Cheers,
Arnie
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: simi_ed on August 09, 2010, 09:37:07 PM
I can offer some 'smart answers', but they don't have anything to do with your fairing question ...  :rofl:
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: bigguy1 on August 09, 2010, 10:01:38 PM
Thanks for posting your findings.
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: Marsh White on August 09, 2010, 11:54:17 PM
Quote from: Arnie on August 09, 2010, 09:07:34 PM
Very surprised that there are none of the "smart guys" I expected to have all the answers to my questions about compatibility between '86 and '89 fairings.
Luckily after a couple of days of no replies, I posted to the Yahoo lists as well, where I did get replies. 

Arnie, I didn't see your post earlier.  Yeah, what George said - big pain in the ass - not plug-n-play.  Lot's of extra parts and work required.  Far better to find an 86 fairing and repair it / repaint it then to do this.
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: yamahammerFJ on September 07, 2010, 09:21:55 PM
I have decided to revive this thread to ask the following question:

Which years of FJs fit which years of lower fairings?
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: RichBaker on September 07, 2010, 09:42:53 PM
There are 4 generations of FJ11/12..... generally, body parts are the same among each gen.   1stGen= 84-85  2nd Gen= 86-87  3rd Gen= 88-90 (88 was not imported to the US, too many prev. year bikes still in dealers)  and 4th Gen= 91-up....

Color schemes vary year to year, but the body parts will be the same among each generation.
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: yamahammerFJ on September 08, 2010, 08:51:47 AM
So essentially, there is no easy way to attach a lower fairing from an '86 to an '85? Is there anyone who makes a full lower fairing for the FJ anymore? Seems the best deals I have found for repro lowers online range from about $140 (unpainted, undrilled and possibly without proper mounting tabs) to $230 (solid red, still unpainted). I have done a lot of searching on eBay with no luck, and I have the SuperTrapp exhaust, so I am not looking to cut up a mint OEM piece. Suggestions?
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: TRoy on September 08, 2010, 03:53:29 PM
Quote from: yamahammerFJ on September 08, 2010, 08:51:47 AM
easy way to attach a lower fairing from an '86 to an '85?

..you can swap out your lower frame rails with '86 ones.  I have some, wanna trade? (your 85 frame rails for my 86's)
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: yamahammerFJ on September 08, 2010, 10:19:23 PM
Quote from: TRoy on September 08, 2010, 03:53:29 PM
..you can swap out your lower frame rails with '86 ones.  I have some, wanna trade? (your 85 frame rails for my 86's)

Perhaps... will everything else including the engine still bolt right up? Any chance there's an '86 lower fairing coming with it?
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: lawson on September 11, 2010, 04:33:43 PM
This is a pretty basic problem.Should you even be on motorcycle.Ha Ha .If you are in Put A Shimp on Barbyville - Also swap out inner support.Glad to be of help from "Smart Ass Guy" oh wait - i meant "Smart Guy"
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: Travis398 on September 12, 2010, 05:54:59 AM
Quote from: RichBaker on September 07, 2010, 09:42:53 PM
There are 4 generations of FJ11/12..... generally, body parts are the same among each gen.   1stGen= 84-85  2nd Gen= 86-87  3rd Gen= 88-90 (88 was not imported to the US, too many prev. year bikes still in dealers)  and 4th Gen= 91-up....

Color schemes vary year to year, but the body parts will be the same among each generation.

Doesn't Lotsokids 88' FJ look more like an 86 than it does an 89?

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/Lotsokids/FJ1200/FJ1200-1.jpg)
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: FJmonkey on September 12, 2010, 09:33:11 AM
Quote from: Travis398 on September 12, 2010, 05:54:59 AM
Quote from: RichBaker on September 07, 2010, 09:42:53 PM
There are 4 generations of FJ11/12..... generally, body parts are the same among each gen.   1stGen= 84-85  2nd Gen= 86-87  3rd Gen= 88-90 (88 was not imported to the US, too many prev. year bikes still in dealers)  and 4th Gen= 91-up....

Color schemes vary year to year, but the body parts will be the same among each generation.

Doesn't Lotsokids 88' FJ look more like an 86 than it does an 89?

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/Lotsokids/FJ1200/FJ1200-1.jpg)
If that is an 88 then someone downgraded it with AD forks. The side scoops look like an 86/87 as well. Some web sites post the wrong pics of different years like this one showing an 87 as an 88. http://motoprofi.com/motospecspictures/yamaha/fj_1200-1988.html (http://motoprofi.com/motospecspictures/yamaha/fj_1200-1988.html).
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: Travis398 on September 12, 2010, 10:09:07 AM
well than someone downgraded the fairing also, cause the blinkers are shaped like the 86'. 
does anyone else have a pic of an 88 FJ?
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: Travis398 on September 12, 2010, 10:14:24 AM
okay maybe he mixed the date up cause it looks like this is an 87 FJ according to the person that listed the picture

(http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2004%5C11%5C14%5Cbikepics-243284-800.jpg)
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: FJmonkey on September 12, 2010, 10:17:15 AM
Quote from: Travis398 on September 12, 2010, 10:09:07 AM
well than someone downgraded the fairing also, cause the blinkers are shaped like the 86'. 
does anyone else have a pic of an 88 FJ?
(http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2008%5C10%5C25%5Cbikepics-1461462-full.jpg)
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: cherrylog gypsy on September 12, 2010, 10:23:57 AM
Quote from: Travis398 on September 12, 2010, 10:14:24 AM
okay maybe he mixed the date up cause it looks like this is an 87 FJ according to the person that listed the picture

(http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2004%5C11%5C14%5Cbikepics-243284-800.jpg)
love the 87 paint scheme more than my black 90
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: TRoy on September 12, 2010, 03:10:16 PM
Quote from: yamahammerFJ on September 08, 2010, 10:19:23 PM
will everything else including the engine still bolt right up? Any chance there's an '86 lower fairing coming with it?

I think so.. I tell you what, when I get back from the Rally I will send them to you, when you make sure they fit then send me your 85 ones.

No, no chance of a lower fairing coming with them  :empathy3:
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: wheels on October 27, 2010, 01:25:03 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on September 12, 2010, 09:33:11 AM
Quote from: Travis398 on September 12, 2010, 05:54:59 AM
Quote from: RichBaker on September 07, 2010, 09:42:53 PM
There are 4 generations of FJ11/12..... generally, body parts are the same among each gen.   1stGen= 84-85  2nd Gen= 86-87  3rd Gen= 88-90 (88 was not imported to the US, too many prev. year bikes still in dealers)  and 4th Gen= 91-up....

Color schemes vary year to year, but the body parts will be the same among each generation.

Doesn't Lotsokids 88' FJ look more like an 86 than it does an 89?

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/Lotsokids/FJ1200/FJ1200-1.jpg)
If that is an 88 then someone downgraded it with AD forks. The side scoops look like an 86/87 as well. Some web sites post the wrong pics of different years like this one showing an 87 as an 88. http://motoprofi.com/motospecspictures/yamaha/fj_1200-1988.html (http://motoprofi.com/motospecspictures/yamaha/fj_1200-1988.html).
it looks like mine and mine is an 87 september 87
Title: Re: 86 vs 89 Main Fairing
Post by: Ganboy70 on November 01, 2010, 02:00:36 PM
From Cycle World July 1989:  "The fairing and windscreen - 50mm taller and 60mm wider this year, with bulges to keep wind-blast off the rider's hands - encapsulate an average-height rider's torso in still air."   (popcorn)