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Title: My New Nightmare
Post by: The Notorious YZF on July 31, 2010, 03:47:43 PM
Ok.....here's the new FJ1200 I just purchased.  It's a 1990 and it runs.....that's about where the good news ends.  I've already scrapped all the fairings.  Not a salvageable piece on the whole bike.  I should have it completely apart in a couple of weeks.  From there it will go into the basement and wait until the snow flies....then I'll start working on it.  

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/NotoriousYZF/FJ%201200/DSC01665.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/NotoriousYZF/FJ%201200/DSC01666.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/NotoriousYZF/FJ%201200/DSC01667.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/NotoriousYZF/FJ%201200/DSC01668.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/NotoriousYZF/FJ%201200/DSC01669.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/NotoriousYZF/FJ%201200/DSC01670.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/NotoriousYZF/FJ%201200/DSC01671.jpg)

Any suggestions would be great.

Thanks
The Notorious YZF
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: jvb_ca on July 31, 2010, 04:03:39 PM
Ouch... :shok:...that looks like a project. Should be fun though... :good2:

Cheers...Jake
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: the fan on July 31, 2010, 04:06:40 PM
Did you buy that one at Vintage days?

I saw a strikingly similar machine in the swap meet area.
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: racerman_27410 on July 31, 2010, 04:11:57 PM
damn was someone stunting that bike ?

i dont believe i've ever seen an FJ beat like that all the way around.....


good onya fer saving it from the scrap heap.   :good2:

KOokaloo!

Fran k
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: jwh on July 31, 2010, 04:38:40 PM
lordy! that one looks like its had a hard life
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: Harvy on July 31, 2010, 06:07:21 PM
Notorious..........that is only just a little better than the '90 I bought for parts!

When you finally get it all apart and have a list of things you need, maybe I can help........although freight from here to there is obviously a consideration.

No plastics left except the ducktail, but the whole rear fender and taillight is there.
I have the main frame also, and some of the engine.

Well done on getting one that goes.......my parts find didn't really have a chance with the hole in the bottom case.

Harvy
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: The Notorious YZF on July 31, 2010, 07:46:36 PM
I think this is going to make a return as a Street Fighter.  I'm not looking for it to make a return in it's original state.  I've taken all the fairings off and junked them already.  Nothing worth saving. 

Here's what I've found so far...

1.  It has a nice Stainless Steel Supertrap 4-2-1 exhaust.  The headers are in perfect shape....the slip-on not so much.

2.  Air box has been removed and 4 individual K&N Pod air filters have been strapped to the carbs.

3. Because of the air filters and exhaust...I have to assume it has been jetted.  Bike would not have run in the current set-up w/o jetting.

4. The upper fairing stay is in perfect condition. woo hoo!

5.  Nothing more than a ton of surface dirt and grease covering the frame....no welds or cracks.

6. It has a good battery. 

7.  Not leaking any fluids. However.....it may not have enough in it to leak. :)

Anyway....I've seen a few examples of FJ1200 Streetfighters that make it a more realistic project goal than a complete restoration. 

I'll be in constant touch with the forums throughout this project.  Any tips or advice is always appreciated.

Thanks
The Notorious YZF
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: Klavdy on July 31, 2010, 07:50:43 PM
Wow.
Looks like a prop from a Zombie Apocalypse movie or it's been dragged out of a swamp.
Hmmm, ratbike perhaps?
You know, keep it nasty looking, but do up the engine, suspension, brakes etc?
It would have a certain degree of cool.
Good for you, rescuing the pitiful thing.
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: carsick on July 31, 2010, 08:19:06 PM
That looks to be a significant departure from your other bikes. Nice seat though. The fact that it runs is a striking testament to just how tough these mills are! I applaud your courage for both acquiring the wretch and sharing those graphic images with the forum. You've seen her at her worst, now give her the chance to show you her best.
Doug
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: Arnie on July 31, 2010, 08:46:15 PM
Notorious,

I have a good ducktail, and main fairing to fit.  (see post in the "for sale" thread about a month ago)  I'm open to offers, but as Harvy has said, the freight might be a killer.

Cheers,
Arnie
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: FeralJuggernaut on July 31, 2010, 11:53:36 PM
Not positive, but I think that the tail light is 'upside down'.   Given the work ahead, it seems minor...   Streetfighter seems the most economical.  Good luck and keep us up to date with a photo journal periodically!     :drinks:
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: Pat Conlon on August 01, 2010, 08:51:24 AM
Ya gotta love that upside down tail light, gotta try that on mine....

To echo what Frank & Klavdy said, Good for you on taking on this project!
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: The Notorious YZF on August 01, 2010, 09:04:49 AM
The poor creature has a sticker on the tank from when, at some point, it was sold in an auction.  I was think that when the time comes to get a paint job I'm going to have that sticker airbrushed on the tank.  A small reminder of where it's been.

The Notorious YZF
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: Klavdy on August 01, 2010, 03:39:51 PM
Quote from: The Notorious YZF on August 01, 2010, 09:04:49 AM
The poor creature has a sticker on the tank from when, at some point, it was sold in an auction.  I was think that when the time comes to get a paint job I'm going to have that sticker airbrushed on the tank.  A small reminder of where it's been.

The Notorious YZF


The auction sticker, you reckon it might have been from a Hurricane Katrina salvage auction?
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: The Notorious YZF on August 01, 2010, 04:29:58 PM
It has a good title.  The sticker is from an auction in Atlanta. 

I'm thinking of an early R1 tail swap.  Any ideas?

Thanks
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: andyb on August 01, 2010, 04:35:30 PM
I'd say that's the least of your troubles currently.
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: the fan on August 01, 2010, 05:58:40 PM
Not really feeling the R1 swap as it really doesn't work with the lines of the tank. A YZF600 tail might work with a little creative plastic welding...
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: feederbb on August 04, 2010, 10:05:55 AM
I'm digging the front fender!  Maybe a 70's Honda 400-4?  You have your hands full and I admire your passion to save the beast.  I'm hoping some day to have a little more room to take on such a project.  Good luck with it.  Kevin.
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: SkyFive on August 04, 2010, 02:42:00 PM
Quote from: The Notorious YZF on August 01, 2010, 04:29:58 PM
It has a good title.  The sticker is from an auction in Atlanta. 


Oooh!...bought it at an auction in Atlanta. That explains everything.

Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: yetti motorcycles on August 05, 2010, 03:13:55 AM
that looks ROUGH man. If the platics are all trash have you considered somthing like this.
http://fjowners.com/gallery/901_05_08_10_1_40_28.jpeg (http://fjowners.com/gallery/901_05_08_10_1_40_28.jpeg)
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: The Notorious YZF on August 05, 2010, 07:31:05 AM
YES!  That is exactly what I'm thinking about....more or less.  That is a great bike.  The only thing I would change is the handlebar set up.  I have 2 crotch rockets already so I don't want to bend over to ride another.  I'd probably throw on something like the LSL Superbike handlebars from Spiegler.

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/901_05_08_10_1_40_28.jpeg)

That is a great looking bike and will definitely be my template.  Does that bike belong to a member on the forums?  Anyone know who and how to get in touch? 

Thanks
The Notorious YZF
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: the fan on August 05, 2010, 11:28:32 AM
Not a fan of the drooping MX rear fender or the JC whitney exhaust... and where the hell is the rear shock? Is there rear suspension?
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: yetti motorcycles on August 05, 2010, 03:25:30 PM
tiny shock in this photo. no idea whos it is just found it making the rounds on the UK fj fourm.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/901_05_08_10_1_41_46.jpeg)
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: The Notorious YZF on August 05, 2010, 05:53:55 PM
Where's the freakin' battery on this bike?

Thanks
The Notorious YZF
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: andyb on August 05, 2010, 06:07:17 PM
Probably using a tiny battery.  Some folks have used the power packs from cordless drills and the like, but there's now available "real" batteries in tiny sizes.   Ain't cheap though.
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: the fan on August 05, 2010, 07:34:16 PM
We run 4 cell lithium ferrous batteries in the race bikes. Each battery pack weighs right around 12 ounces and has no trouble starting supersport built 600cc bikes all weekend long. in fact I don't recall ever having to charge them.

they measure 2.25" x 2.25" x 3".

We paid around $90 each, but I have seen them as cheap as $60 bucks for a 4 cell (2.3ah) and $80 for an 8 cell (4.6ah).

12 cells are still pretty expensive (around 300 bucks) but will easily start built V twins and weigh in at 2.2 pounds.

there are a few how to guides for building your own battery online, but I found it to be more cost effective to purchase pre built units. look for A123 battery packs for details.
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: yetti motorcycles on August 06, 2010, 05:58:03 AM
found this link to more info about this bike think it translates it from german says the guys name is Rob Heitkamp and mentions somthing about the tank on hinges and gel eliminated under tank. think somthing is missing in translation but they had to stash a gel battery somwhere.

http://www.motorbeursutrecht.nl/nl-nl/Bezoeker/Activiteiten/Custom%20Bike%20Contest/Rob%20Heitkamp.aspx (http://www.motorbeursutrecht.nl/nl-nl/Bezoeker/Activiteiten/Custom%20Bike%20Contest/Rob%20Heitkamp.aspx)
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: The Notorious YZF on August 06, 2010, 08:21:40 AM
Here's what I found on the battery....

http://www.indysuperbike.com/customer/product.php?productid=1192543&cat=38397&page=1 (http://www.indysuperbike.com/customer/product.php?productid=1192543&cat=38397&page=1)

(http://www.indysuperbike.com/image.php?productid=1192543)

Not sure if this is waht you're getting for $60.....but I'd be willing to compare.

Later
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: rktmanfj on August 06, 2010, 08:40:14 AM
Dutch to English translation by babelfish:


Give a short general description of your engine.

Yamaha FJ 1200 from 1986 are cultivated those to Streetfighter. The basis is the orginele frame with a front upsidedown R1 and 240/40/18 rear wheels.

Role has played you at building the engine?

I have considered the concept and the implementation (construction) done. Aluminium mow work and the turn work of the hub has been done by specialists (friends). Also the needle work has been done by a spuiter.

Which components of the engine are really special, and why?


The achterbrug have been broadened For the rear wheel voorvelg of FJ have turned off and provide with a broad rim. link half-measure 240/40/18. On sides here alu hub for have been twisted Traction has got a offset of 55mm outside the frame Led rear light with in-built flashing light 3 colours needle work with a subtle 1188 text on the tank Tank is possible to behind articulations and continues stand mbv gasveren Gelaccu got rid of under the tank

Which components have been built themselves or have been made?


Traction offset 55mm Rear wheel/rim incl. hub Behind and voortandwiel Express (partly) Part of electric system Subframe Zitje

How long have you been busy this build engine?

Approximately 4 years, with intermittencies.
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: carsick on August 06, 2010, 11:36:38 PM
My son kept insisting that these batteries exist, I said nonsense, there's no such thing as a one pound motorcycle battery. Goddamn kids. Maybe if he buys me one I will believe it.
Doug
Title: Re: My New Nightmare
Post by: Bill_Rockoff on August 20, 2010, 08:32:32 AM
If the frame number ends in 1241, I (still) have the keys to it somewhere, and the original owner's manual.  (But I doubt they'd be necessary at this point.)