Hi all,i thought it was time to show you some progress on my fj1200. Ive got to be honest,ive recently had a total hip replacement,due to arthritis (good old national health service,free of charge!),so decided to sell the bike on ebay. I had a very low reserve,but it didnt sell,which im now glad of! I cant ride at the moment,but should be on my feet soon.
In the mean time i set about my bike with some spanners and a big hammer...
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Too cut a long story down,i had to change bearing,and then still machine reducer inserts to allow me to use the original 20mm fj spindle. I now need to buy a caliper and caliper carrier.
The front,wasnt too bad.
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Again i need calipers,a correctly sized tyre (tire)and a mudguard (fender lol)
Ive seen a lot of stuff where people have fitted 5.5 wide wheels,but dont recall seeing a 6inch wide rim fitted,anybody have any ideas as to what front sprocket i can fit to get the chain to line up?? Any help gratefully received. :good2:
One of the other things im thinking about is lengthening the swingarm with bolt in extensions,is anybody else running alonger arm on the street? Pics would be great!! :good:
Ive a suzuki gs1150 (gsx1100efe here)with along arm,but ive not seen a fj with one yet,other than dragbikes?
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Ready for it rebuild!
Can i sneek some pics of other stuff i have,to give you an idea of the type of bikes i like. At the moment,i have to many projects,not enough money,but plenty of time!
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Kawasaki z1000r,with a Spondon modified gsx1400 extended swingarm,the frames headstock has been raked.
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I didnt paint the frame! Its a z1000j with z1a tank and tailpiece,gsxr motor,kawasaki usd forks etc...
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zed650 with usd front end,suzuki motor
Im sure theres more...
So, Mr. dixiedog. What year is the R1 front-end you're installing? Are you planning a more detailed description of the install? So far, so good ...
looks like a lot of projects happening...... just finish the FJ first mmmmmkay :good2:
kookaloo!
Frank
Here's some pics of a bike I picked up from Chicago after my engine parts had been stolen. I bought the bike for the engine and am using it now in my streetbike. This fall or winter I plan to swap another engine into the streetbike and put this one back together. Will probably separate the drag stuff and put it back mostly stock to sell it. Not great pics, but does have an arm on it and is lowered (used a strut in the rear) and was used on the street. It sat in a shop for 4 years or so before I got it.
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The dragbike has a 6 inch R1 rim. The swingarm is an FZ1. With the R1 rim all the way to the LEFT in the swingarm, it was offset 8mm to the RIGHT still! Normally to fit the FZ1 swingarm you take 4mm off each side. Instead I took all 8mm off the left side in order to center the rim in the chassis. I used a 1/4 inch offset countershaft sprocket from TRAC that is part of an R1 wide tire kit. I had to grind a little off the inside of the frame where the lower chain runs (the back side of a mounting lug for the foot pegs or side plates) like Frank and others have done when using an XJR output shaft. I mounted the rear sprocket "backwards" to offset it slightly inboard and the alignment is spot on. I used the stock R1 caliper and mount and added a spacer outboard of it to take up the rest of the room in the swingarm.
I like the projects! Especially the Kwaker z1000r
Chris
Quote from: simi_ed on June 22, 2010, 03:48:02 PM
So, Mr. dixiedog. What year is the R1 front-end you're installing? Are you planning a more detailed description of the install? So far, so good ...
Im not sure what front end it is,but i will try to find out. The front has been fitted i believe to an old (K)z1,so the stem has already been modified. I need to change the fork seals,so i'll pull it apart and take some pictures for you to see whats been done. :hi:
Quote from: fj1289 on June 22, 2010, 11:57:01 PM
Here's some pics of a bike I picked up from Chicago after my engine parts had been stolen. I bought the bike for the engine and am using it now in my streetbike. This fall or winter I plan to swap another engine into the streetbike and put this one back together. Will probably separate the drag stuff and put it back mostly stock to sell it. Not great pics, but does have an arm on it and is lowered (used a strut in the rear) and was used on the street. It sat in a shop for 4 years or so before I got it.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/171_22_06_10_10_40_26_0.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/171_22_06_10_10_40_27_1.jpeg)
The dragbike has a 6 inch R1 rim. The swingarm is an FZ1. With the R1 rim all the way to the LEFT in the swingarm, it was offset 8mm to the RIGHT still! Normally to fit the FZ1 swingarm you take 4mm off each side. Instead I took all 8mm off the left side in order to center the rim in the chassis. I used a 1/4 inch offset countershaft sprocket from TRAC that is part of an R1 wide tire kit. I had to grind a little off the inside of the frame where the lower chain runs (the back side of a mounting lug for the foot pegs or side plates) like Frank and others have done when using an XJR output shaft. I mounted the rear sprocket "backwards" to offset it slightly inboard and the alignment is spot on. I used the stock R1 caliper and mount and added a spacer outboard of it to take up the rest of the room in the swingarm.
I like the projects! Especially the Kwaker z1000r
Chris
Wow wow wow wow wow,i love the look of that bike! Its got me thinking about doing the same with mine,ive a star racing drag pipe from my gs1150 thing,i could try to make a new swingarm with a strut,and lower the front. I think it would make a great streetbike,even with a standard motor.
Having a strut, no suspension travel = good streetbike?
Er..
Its not my bike but I hear the guy used it for a Daily for some time before he sold it. It had and extended swing arm cause the guy had the 1340BB on it then decided he needed to turbo the thing.(http://fjowners.com/gallery/419_23_06_10_8_26_02.jpeg)
I would really be interested in what year front end you're using on this build. Also, I'd be interested in knowing what else is involved in swapping an R1 front end.
If you modify the stem to fit, can you use the entire front end setup...wheel, brakes, etc?
thanks
The Notorious YZF
Hi all,can i suggest people have a look on the uk's fj site,[url]http://www.fjfjrbiker.co.uk/index.php?topic=7103.0] (http://[/url)http://www.fjfjrbiker.co.uk/index.php?topic=7103.0
Ive a longer build thread there,its not going anywhere fast though!
The front end turned out not to be an R1,but a Suzuki TL1000.
ftp://http://www.fjfjrbiker.co.uk/index.php?topic=7103.0 (http://www.fjfjrbiker.co.uk/index.php?topic=7103.0) (just in case the other link didnt work!)
Also,if you visit the uk site,you'll now find the R1 rear wheel is out,and a kawasaki zx7r 6inch rim is going in!! The hub of the R1 was too wide and a lot of hassle to even think about modifying,so the change is under way!!
Some more pics,i was bored so decided to make a prototype sprocket cover assembly.
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It needs to be finished properly,black instead of polished!!
I spotted this cover online,and much prefer the lines of the cover,so i may try to copy it??
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In the UK,fj12's are,generally looked at as (ahem...)old men's bikes! This is a pity,if some of the younger riders had a ride on one,felt the torque,theyd soon change there minds. So,streetfighted ones are rare,have you seen this one before,its from Holland i think?
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You'll either love it or hate it!! Im have mixed thoughts about it myself. :morning1:
The sprocket cover was interesting to do. Firstly take a piece of alloy,mark it out,drill holes,mill slots for decoration,and then shape.
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cut!!
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general idea
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I needed the clutch holder from the original cover,no going back now....
Dixie,
You said, "In the UK,fj12's are,generally looked at as (ahem...)old men's bikes! This is a pity,if some of the younger riders had a ride on one,felt the torque,theyd soon change there minds."
Well, some of us are old men. And this old man has been coming up blank with any good reason to change to any other new bike out there. The FJ looks good, goes well, handles well, is reliable, is easy to service, and is comfortable. In the last fortnight I rode a Daytona 955 and an R1. They were both quick, fast, less uncomfortable than I expected, more thirsty than the FJ, and I was glad to get back on the FJ after less than an hour on either. On a trip I might not have the acceleration or top speed of these bikes, but I'd get to the end sooner because I wouldn't have to stop for fuel so often and wouldn't need a chiropractor to unbend me at the end. Them kids who call it an "old man's bike" don't know what they're missing.
Cheers,
Arnie
Ping. I rode a 'busa about a month ago. It was FAST and uncomfortable. The 'busa owner commented how good the FJ runs, and how comfortable it was. Hmmmmmm.
Quote from: dixiethedog on July 28, 2010, 08:45:43 AM
I spotted this cover online,and much prefer the lines of the cover,so i may try to copy it??
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where abouts did you spot this one?
found one now!
updates soon. :good2:
I really do need to get this thing done and dusted. Ive been busy with lots of other things in life,which have to take more importance than motorbikes. :dash2:
However,the fj hasnt been far from my mind,and ive been buying a few things to help,when i do finally make a start again. In the last week ive managed to buy some 6 pot brakes,a (i think?)zx9r brake master cylinder and an aprilia rsv clutch master cylinder and lever etc.
The brake and clutch cylinders are the type that have the reservoir's mounted on tubes and brackets (if that makes sense?),allowing me to position them out of harms way,and more importantly,allowing me to use Renthal handlebars (superbike (80's)style?). It also means that i'll be able to turn the bars full lock,without the mastercylinders hitting the fairing,which would be a no no in the UK.
Updates soon-ish! lol.
Ive been busy in my worshop this morning,working on a project for a friend,and too be honest,i was looking forward to visiting this site,to see some more fj stuff. Im pretty fired up at the moment,wanting my bike back on the road.
It came of the road about november 2009,and i havent been on it since. Ive ridden one bike since then,and that was only for a couple of miles,a streetfightered Honda vtr1000 forestorm,which was cool,but made me realise how good the fj fairing works for me!
Back to the workshop now,to get stuff done. :good2:
Quote from: dixiethedog on July 28, 2010, 08:55:56 AM
The sprocket cover was interesting to do. Firstly take a piece of alloy,mark it out,drill holes,mill slots for decoration,and then shape.
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cut!!
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general idea
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I just went after the original cover and milled it out a bit.
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Hi Austinfj,i really like the idea for your clutch cover,i might just have to have a go at similar myself,so thanks for the inspiration!! :good2:
No worries! I really like yours and others that start with billet and "express themselves"! I was a bit limited on source material, so I did what I could. :hi:
Having read back one of my last posts,i must be going mental,i said that i didnt enjoy the windblast from my friends streetfightered vtr1000,so what have i done,bought a kawasaki zxr750 and streetfightered it.
I rode about 200miles the other day on it,and when i got off,thought how comfortable the fj looked. So i figure time wasted on the Kawasaki,yamaha here i come!!!
Also,ive been painting an fj1100 for a friend,he's collecting the paintwork tomorrow,and i hope he likes it?
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Thats soapy water on the tank by the way.
Too confuse people heres another part of the bike.
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One of the rear fenders,as its a trike!
Also,my bad back inducing Kawasaki....Im too old for this thing.
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This is just before i finished it for the time being,the rear hugger went in the bin,and the can needs to be shortened. The lights did get fastened back on.
Looking thru my shed,i found 3 new 240 section avon tires,this has got me thinking,maybe i can widen the stock arm and make a fat back end assembly for my bike. A friend of mine was running a 230 avon on the back of his fj chopper,so,i figure it can be done?
Quote from: dixiethedog on May 06, 2011, 10:08:41 AM
Looking thru my shed,i found 3 new 240 section avon tires,this has got me thinking,maybe i can widen the stock arm and make a fat back end assembly for my bike. A friend of mine was running a 230 avon on the back of his fj chopper,so,i figure it can be done?
Yeah, but WHY would you want to?
The 240 is known for it's AWESOME handling!
DavidR.
Why not just buy a fourth one and put them on your car, instead?
It looks like some of you dont care for the 240 wide wheel idea?
I have thick skin so can take critiscim well.
Im about to start a gsxr (one off arm)conversion with the bike,with maybe just a skinny 5.5 inch wide kawasaki wheel (already fitted),but the arm will take upto a 9inch wide rim. So watch this space,and see what happens.
Ive neglected the bike for a long time now,but this year Ive been thru hell. My Dad was diagnosed with cancer last Feb,and its been a painful year watching him suffer and very sadly die just a short while ago. But im back now!!!!!
Ive just ordered some stainless braided hoses and fittings for the crankcase breather and oil cooler,a new cnc'd billet gas cap and a few more bits and pieces,so hopefully we should see progress again.
Sorry to hear about your Dad, too much of that thing going around here these days.
Concerning the 240 rear tire, what do you intend to do with the bike? Chopper show bike? Drag bike? Daily driver? Weekend performance machine?
There is a reason NO sportbikes currently come with a 240 tire and NEVER will. This is one of those rare instances where bigger is not necessarily better. A tire that wide will absolutely kill the handling of the bike. But if you're not interested in handling, then don't listen to me and do what your inner voice tells you to do. After all, it's your bike.
DavidR.
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on November 21, 2011, 05:37:24 PM
This is one of those rare instances where bigger is not necessarily better.
DavidR.
Spoken like a true Texan!!
Dan
Im still very much undecided what to do? Too be honest,the one thing i hated about my FJ was the handling or lack of it. I dont know how anybody can ride one with the standard horrible tires? This is the reason i ended up with a kawasaki rim out back,and when completed a TL1000 front end.
Im definately wanting the aftermarket swingarm fitted. After that,i can mess with wheels and tire sizes? I have all the gear here,so apart from time,its not really costing me anything. If a 240 back end handles so badly i cant stand it,i'll revert back to either the kawasaki rim thats in at the moment,or maybe a 6inch wide zx7r rim? To me its about a bit of experimentation,otherwise we all end up pretty much the same! (not a bad thing!). The bikes never going to be an R1 or GSXR1000,it will always be an old bike,so lets see how things go,and we can decide what we all think at a later date?
Ive an open mind. LOL.
Ive also a nice little workshop,with a small seperate spray booth,Ive a lathe amd a milling machine,a tube bender,a blast cabinet,mig and acdc Tig welding gear.....etc etc... I dont profess to being a good machinest or fabricator,but in honesty I sometimes feel more comfortable in my workshop than out on the road,so Im happy to fiddle and mess with parts to see how they can be adapted and made to work in or on a bike.
Im working to finish a couple of paint jobs for friends and a few little engineering jobs for others,once they are done,im not taking any work in for other bikes,as im gonna concentrate 10000000% on my own stuff!
Today i found somebody local-ish,who was selling a yamaha xjr1300 set of 4-1 downpipes for a very small amount of money,sp snapped them up. They are stainless and in good condition,apart from a scrape on the bottom of one pipe,so the search is on for a link pipe and an end can.
I was trying to concentrate on my own stuff,but in recent times,ive been busy with things for other people,but have yet again decided to knuckle down and work on my own bikes. Ive 2 bikes needing to be built before May (this year!),and then i can get back into the fj. :good2:
In the last day or so Ive started to make some swingarm extensions for a standard fj swingarm,based on the design of the much respected Spondon race items. So,the idea at the moment is to go for a fairly quick build(i hope ),but with more normal sized wheels etc with a drag strip inspired look.
Heres a pic of the arm with one extension in place to give an idea of the length.
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Manually milling the extension took more hours than i care to comment about!! Oh i wish i had a cnc machine!!