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Title: Starts but dies out immediately.
Post by: Pete-speed on May 31, 2025, 08:34:55 AM
[have replaced all fuel flow related parts and filters pump, relay etc. bike will start briefly , seconds then dies and successive tries get worse until it sits for awhile. Feels like a fuel starvation problem but got flow through the pump. Anybody have any insights?
Title: Re: Starts but dies out immediately.
Post by: Billy Bananahead on May 31, 2025, 10:37:59 AM
Longshot, is the side stand kicked down or kill switch engaged?
Title: Re: Starts but dies out immediately.
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 31, 2025, 07:30:37 PM
"It Starts, runs for seconds, then dies..." ....sounds like a misbehaving fuel pump  or something impeding fuel flow....keeping the carbs fuel bowls from refilling.
Is your tank clean?
Try bypassing the fuel pump and fuel filter. Take them out of the equation.
You need 1/4 tank of fuel to get enough head pressure to gravity feed the carbs.

Welcome to the forum
Try and post in the Intro section, tell us what you're doing.
Modify your profile, In your signature line put in the year FJ you have. That info. will appear automatically so you don't have to remind us.

Cheers. Pat
Title: Re: Starts but dies out immediately.
Post by: Pete-speed on June 03, 2025, 10:11:17 AM
Side stand switch checked , new fuel pump and fuel pump relay. Checked flow at pump outlet good. Going to replace relay unit ( starting circuit cut off relay), if I can get at it without removing cowling. All thoughts and suggestions are appreciated.
Title: Re: Starts but dies out immediately.
Post by: 86FJNJ on June 03, 2025, 10:57:10 AM
I second Pat's advice to hook up the tank to the carbs without fuel pump and see if it stays running.
Title: Re: Starts but dies out immediately.
Post by: Pete-speed on June 03, 2025, 06:32:34 PM
Will try direct tank to carbs manana, have checked pump is squirting but can't hurt to try. Let you know, thanks for the feedback.
Title: Re: Starts but dies out immediately.
Post by: red on June 03, 2025, 10:43:45 PM
Pete,

Is there rust or dirt inside the gastank?  A fuel-line filter would be a good idea generally, and if you already have one, it may be clogged. 
Never know where the PO may have put an in-line fuel filter.  One guy stuffed a filter right into the gas line, which will catch the crud but it clogs up fast because the filter face is so tiny.  Also, there is no way to inspect the "filter" for crud because you can't see the filter at all until you disconnect the fuel line. 
If the carbs have crud in the lines, you may be able to blow them clean from the inside or remove the crud with a strong vacuum on the fuel lines.
Amazon and lots of places have clear glass in-line filters with porous bronze filter elements.  Easy to inspect and re-new the bronze filter element.
Just shooting in the dark, here.
Title: Re: Starts but dies out immediately.
Post by: 86FJNJ on June 04, 2025, 07:42:44 AM
Pat, not to hijack the thread but as I convert my 86 to fuel pump hopefully this weekend I have the regular yamaha fuel filter under the tank but could I add another smaller filter before the fuel pump or after the fuel pump as an extra level of protection for the carbs?
Title: Re: Starts but dies out immediately.
Post by: Pat Conlon on June 04, 2025, 08:20:14 AM
The oem Yamaha fuel filter goes between the tank petcock and the fuel pump inlet. The filter does a great job catching small rust particles from our old tanks so, no, IMO you don't need anything additional.

If it's that bad, look at electrolysis on the tank and a POR15 or Caswell sealant.
Title: Re: Starts but dies out immediately.
Post by: red on June 04, 2025, 08:11:27 PM
Pete,
If you find a fuel filter on the fuel line, you can tape a strong little magnet to the side of the filter to catch rust and iron particles. You could also stick a magnet inside the gas tank near the fuel outlet.  Can't hurt, might help.  :yes: