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Title: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: 86FJNJ on November 03, 2024, 05:36:47 PM
Bike sat for over 15 years, been going through it. Sprayed these screws with penetrating oil many times, started slow...it started turning then it snapped. Bottom one loosened up fine.

What's the best way to get it out?
Title: Re: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: aviationfred on November 03, 2024, 08:46:37 PM
The most common way to remove the broken screw would be.
A center punch and hammer to stake a center mark in the broken screw.
A small drill bit and drill to make a hole in the center of the screw.
An Easy Out bolt extractor to remove the broken screw.


Fred
Title: Re: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: FJmonkey on November 03, 2024, 08:48:48 PM
Left hand twist drill bit. Use a center punch to divot the center of the broken stud, helps the drill bit stay in the center. Then drill it out with a bit about an 1/8 inch diameter. Drill straight and slow, the broken stud tends to back out on the drill bit when the bit digs into the stud.
Title: Re: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: racerrad8 on November 03, 2024, 10:17:53 PM
Those screws have factory loctite.

The left hand drill might work, but you might need to heat to soften the loctite to get it out.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: Sparky84 on November 04, 2024, 12:22:18 AM
Quote from: racerrad8 on November 03, 2024, 10:17:53 PMThose screws have factory loctite.

The left hand drill might work, but you might need to heat to soften the loctite to get it out.

Randy - RPM
Is the factory loctite like just blue or red loctite ?
Title: Re: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: racerrad8 on November 04, 2024, 05:25:13 AM
Blue

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: 86FJNJ on November 04, 2024, 06:43:53 AM
Quote from: racerrad8 on November 03, 2024, 10:17:53 PMThose screws have factory loctite.

The left hand drill might work, but you might need to heat to soften the loctite to get it out.

Randy - RPM
Should I heat lightly with a hair dryer or a lot with a heat gun?
Title: Re: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: RPM - Robert on November 04, 2024, 10:25:15 AM
Blue is rated to 300 degrees Fahrenheit. I don't think a normal hair dryer will get that hot.
Title: Re: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: Sparky84 on November 04, 2024, 09:27:09 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on November 04, 2024, 05:25:13 AMBlue

Randy - RPM

Thanks

Quote from: 86FJNJ on November 04, 2024, 06:43:53 AM
Quote from: racerrad8 on November 03, 2024, 10:17:53 PMThose screws have factory loctite.

The left hand drill might work, but you might need to heat to soften the loctite to get it out.

Randy - RPM
Should I heat lightly with a hair dryer or a lot with a heat gun?
Bit of heat couldn't hurt, don't think you'd need 300°.

As you're drilling it'll heat up also, just don't break the drill bit while doing it.

Title: Re: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: Waiex191 on November 05, 2024, 08:48:33 AM
Quote from: Sparky84 on November 04, 2024, 09:27:09 PMThe left hand drill might work, but you might need to heat to soften the loctite to get it out.
As you're drilling it'll heat up also, just don't break the drill bit while doing it.
Ideally you want to heat the case so it expands, but not the bolt.  Or heat the bolt less than the case.  Anything that makes it less tight.
Title: Re: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: 86FJNJ on November 05, 2024, 11:30:35 AM
Anyone know what threads these bolts area? I took the one I pulled out to the hardware store and I think it's an M8x16 so I got new ones but when checking fitment on the bike the threads of the new ones don't feel right so I didn't force it in. ChatGBT says it's M6x20mm. If anyone knows for sure that would help. It's a 1986. The bolts I took out were phillips heads which I'm surprised to see on an engine so wondering if they were original or not.
Title: Re: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: FJmonkey on November 05, 2024, 12:30:56 PM
Should be M6 x 1.0 by about 16 to 20 mm long.
Title: Re: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: RPM - Robert on November 05, 2024, 01:06:58 PM
They are JIS screws not phillips and yes they appear to be the originals, at least what I can see of the one that is left.

They are 5mmx0.80 thread. Length is about 3/4 So 19mm length. Be careful with a 20mm long They will bottom out at some point and break the case before they tighten down on teh cover. 20mm length may work I haven't tried just be cautious when tightening.
Title: Re: Stuck Bolt - How can I get it out?
Post by: 86FJNJ on November 06, 2024, 07:42:29 AM
Quote from: RPM - Robert on November 05, 2024, 01:06:58 PMThey are JIS screws not phillips and yes they appear to be the originals, at least what I can see of the one that is left.

They are 5mmx0.80 thread. Length is about 3/4 So 19mm length. Be careful with a 20mm long They will bottom out at some point and break the case before they tighten down on teh cover. 20mm length may work I haven't tried just be cautious when tightening.

You were right, thanks for the help everyone! although I still have to get the screw out will let you know how it goes.