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Title: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: roortcloud on October 26, 2021, 06:11:52 PM
Greetings.
It's my understanding that traditionally the rally location for the following year is decided among the participants of that rally. Make sense?
Seems like the last few years, for one reason or another, the location has been decided through a voting process on this forum with members suggesting various locations and volunteering to arrange certain aspects of the event. BTW, thanks to all those who have put forth that effort! Its also traditionally held on the weekend following the Memorial day weekend.
I'd like to take a poll on a VERY PRELIMNARY suggestion.
Is there any interest in a track day as part of next years West Coast Rally?
I don't have the 2022 track day schedule yet but traditionally one of Northern California's track day providers, Pacific Track Time (PTT) schedules events on the weekend following Memorial day at Thunderhill Raceway.
I've been to several days as a spectator and discovered they are extremely well organized for beginner thru expert riding ability. For the first time track rider little is required to have a very enjoyable experience. Some motorcycle mods are required such as taping over rear lights and glass, but I've witnessed bikes that look like they've just come off the street participate.
Certain rider equipment is also required such as boots that cover the ankles, gloves that cover the wrist, full face helmet etc. The complete list can be found on the PTT web site.
I've also looked at a potential ride the day before or after our track day. Motel accommodations are just a few minutes away. Thunderhill allows camping on site in tents, trailers, motorhomes with no extra charge. Electricity is also available.
Think about it.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Pat Conlon on October 27, 2021, 09:35:12 AM
Track days are fun, if I were to trailer by bike in to the WCR I would consider it.
However, if I were to ride in to the rally, I would take a pass.
It's a long walk back to Sedona if I were to wad up my bike.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Carson City Paul on October 27, 2021, 10:09:00 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on October 27, 2021, 09:35:12 AM
Track days are fun, if I were to trailer by bike in to the WCR I would consider it.
However, if I were to ride in to the rally, I would take a pass.
It's a long walk back to Sedona if I were to wad up my bike.

As I recall, the last time you waded up your bike you weren't walking anywhere for a while. 
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: fj1289 on October 27, 2021, 01:33:24 PM
As long as you ride within your limits there is much less opportunity to wad up your bike on the track!  No errant patches of gravel or pine cones!  Or on coming cars!
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: FJmonkey on October 27, 2021, 02:21:01 PM
In Pat's case it was sand in the corner after all that rain. But the track will not have any of that kind of issue as stated above. However, if you need you and your bike in good condition to get home then the risk may not be worth it. And a slow leisure pace might not be worth the cost of track time.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: andyoutandabout on October 27, 2021, 07:25:46 PM
I'm finding that deciding on a track day is a real mental wrestling match. Fun v Fear.
At the end of the day I would offer that the track is of equal probability as the road for a mishap.
Yes you've not got all those road imperfections (Pat), pedestrians, deer (Mike), but you are surrounded by riders of unknown ability (Barry Sheene famously got taken down by a slower rider in a practice session who shouldn't have been on the track at the same time) and I'm sure your going to suffer a bit of swept up in the moment surges of excitement (just like any Fj Rally)
The conversations I've had with Ron, reveal that these Track days are pretty professionally run. There's mentors to guide you and protect you from yourself. Ultimately I get the vibe that its a day full of like minded enthusiasts who want nothing more than to have a good time and see you have a good time. For that reason alone, its worth a serious consideration.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Motofun on October 28, 2021, 07:57:36 AM
I've been track day riding for the better part of 20 years.  I currently am a coach with N2 and have been for 6 years.  Rider to rider accidents are very rare, the predominate cause is lack of skill.  As a novice pushes his limits trying to improve he is bound to discover them!  If you have good control of your ego (easy to say, hard to do) you can mostly control the outcome of a track day.  Having said that, I did crash once at NJMP when sand was blown onto the track so there's that. :dash2:
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Carson City Paul on October 28, 2021, 11:52:23 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on October 27, 2021, 02:21:01 PM
In Pat's case it was sand in the corner after all that rain. But the track will not have any of that kind of issue as stated above. However, if you need you and your bike in good condition to get home then the risk may not be worth it. And a slow leisure pace might not be worth the cost of track time.

If memory serves me, Rick Mears hit a rabbit doing around 220 mph at Indy.
Just because you are at a race track it doesn't mean there aren't unpredictable hazards.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Pat Conlon on October 28, 2021, 04:50:09 PM
Yea, you guys are right, Fear vs. Fun....track days are fun.

The only FJ rally I trailered my bike to was the ECFR Tellico Plains rally I went with Klavdy and Marsh....all the other rallies I have ridden in.....

However, it sure would be fun to put some soft tires on my FJ, add some preload and ride her on the track.

Track days are fun. Jack is right. I'm not worried wreaking my bike, I can fix that (I've done it before)

At a WCR (2006?) my friend Carson City Paul had a high side mishap on Scaggs Springs road. He was riding in front of me and I saw the whole thing. The front end tucked in and launched him 6 feet in the air and literally body slammed him onto the street. Something you would see on WWF. The invisible hand of God body slam. The bike was damaged but rideable. Poor Paul, it was a long long Saturday night sitting around the campfire with bags of ice Saran wrapped to his shoulder and spine, and on the next morning, a fucking hellaciously long 10 hour ride from Petaluma back to SoCal.
Dan McCoy and Paul Lawson can do that.....I could not have done that...no way.

Yea, maybe it's time to get a trailer.... Although if I did, it won't be the same.

Leaving for the WCR at 4 in the morning on my FJ with my heated vest, a multicolored sunrise and my FJ singing her kookaloo song, is one of the happiest moments in my life. I would dearly miss that.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Millietant on October 29, 2021, 04:47:38 AM
I'm like you Pat, the thought of putting my FJ on trailer to get somewhere it's alien to me - heck I've ridden it 700 mostly motorway miles, just to ride my FJ around the Nurburgring for a long weekend and then ridden it 700 motorway miles back home, without a second thought.

I can understand using a trailer to take more than one bike somewhere, but even when there's a long boring ride ahead, that's all part and parcel of the "motorcycling" experience to me - however, I also understand that is my view and not everyone else will share it (won't stop me from poking fun though, it's just my way :sarcastic: :sarcastic:).

Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: ribbert on October 29, 2021, 05:38:40 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on October 28, 2021, 04:50:09 PM

However, it sure would be fun to put some soft tires on my FJ....... and ride her on the track.


No need these days Pat. The current offering of sports touring tyres such as PR5's, 01's, Pirelli's, Conti RA's etc will do everything a track day tyre would do 10 years ago, in fact the that segment of the market has all but disappeared because of it.

Noel
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Motofun on October 29, 2021, 07:50:41 AM
Quote from: ribbert on October 29, 2021, 05:38:40 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on October 28, 2021, 04:50:09 PM

However, it sure would be fun to put some soft tires on my FJ....... and ride her on the track.


No need these days Pat. The current offering of sports touring tyres such as PR5's, 01's, Pirelli's, Conti RA's etc will do everything a track day tyre would do 10 years ago, in fact the that segment of the market has all but disappeared because of it.

Noel
Current tire selection is amazing.  I run Dunlop Q3+ on my 750 for coaching in Novice and intermediate groups.  Take a lap to get some heat into them and then I'm good to go.  I wouldn't trust them in the advance group where you push constantly but for the other groups where there's a fair amount of off throttle they work great and last a long time too.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Motofun on October 29, 2021, 07:59:24 AM
It may appear as if I'm encouraging folks to try a trackday...well...because I am.  I don't ride fast on the street anymore, no real need.  The track is so much safer, and faster.  It teaches skills that come in handy when street riding too.  It's probably I stop at this point before I get too preachy.... :flag_of_truce:
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: ribbert on October 30, 2021, 09:05:55 AM
Quote from: Motofun on October 29, 2021, 07:59:24 AM
It may appear as if I'm encouraging folks to try a trackday...well...because I am.  I don't ride fast on the street anymore, no real need.  The track is so much safer, and faster.  It teaches skills that come in handy when street riding too.  It's probably I stop at this point before I get too preachy.... :flag_of_truce:

Track days are a great idea for a whole host of reasons, you can eliminate just about every hazard encountered on the road - except one, the moron with the rush of blood to the head who goes nuts because he's on a race track.


Phillip Island is one of the fastest tracks on the MotoGP circuit which allows amateurs to swipe out in spectacular fashion. My last (and final) track event saw 7 accidents and the day started with a rider trying to overtake me on the inside of a corner with too much speed and the wrong line and coming within a whisker of clipping my front wheel as he went wide. The next one was almost comical in the scale of his poor judgement, just as I was about to lean into turn 1 (a very fast corner) a guy passed me (on the inside) at warp speed, still on the throttle, still in a straight line and in the centre of the track! He made some attempt to brake just after passing me and a nano second before he ran out of bitumen, he must have left the track at 200kph+. How could he not even make an attempt at such a fast corner? It was not a close call but it could have been, it was only a second or two that separated us and only pure luck that placed us apart. I could not get my head around just how someone's judgement could be bad by such a huge margin.

However, the doozy, the incident that more than any other time in my motorcycling life had me convinced I was about to die, was on the last lap of the day. Three quarters of the way down the front straight a rider had come to a complete stop a bit left of the track centre having decided to exit through a gate that had had been opened just beyond the pits ( I doubt it should have been open ) rather than ride half way round the track to the exit.
Coming up on his left at probably 245K's I did not notice him until I saw his wheel turn full lock and his bike start to turn on it's own length, which you can do when you're stopped! I had no time for anything other than to tuck my elbow in, push my knee hard against the tank and wince. I may have even closed my eyes momentarily, I know I consciously braced expecting impact. I do not know how I missed him, I swear his bike looked to be right in my path, it must have been a hair's breadth.
To put that in perspective, it was probably only a second or so from realising he'd stopped to passing him.

Speaking with one of the operators shortly after, he said the 7 prangs was a record and he'd never seen so much chaos and stupidity on one day. He attributed it to the fact that much of the field had come for the MotoGP two days earlier and and were perhaps still pumped from the racing (or perhaps the booze).

I decided dicing with road hazards had treated me better over the years and I would stick with that.  :biggrin:


The photo below is one I took just 2 mins before the flag dropped for the start of the 2015 MotoGP at Phillip Island, inside turn 2. If I was on the grid and was aware of it's presence, I'd want it removed before I started, as would any motorcyclist that knew about kangaroos.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8333/8134752193_88aae2e4f1_b.jpg)

Having said all that, they are definitely a lot of fun and a great place to learn, if only the sessions could be idiot proofed.

Noel
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: RPM - Robert on October 30, 2021, 12:35:53 PM
Quote from: ribbert on October 30, 2021, 09:05:55 AM
Having said all that, they are definitely a lot of fun and a great place to learn, if only the sessions could be idiot proofed.

Noel

You can. Just rent the track for yourself.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Motofun on October 31, 2021, 07:18:31 AM
A lot of those incidents have to do with how the organization runs the event.  Some orgs just throw everybody out there to have at it.  Also, I've noticed that where you race has a lot to do with it, local attitudes can affect how riders relate to each other.  There's one track I don't coach at anymore because it just seems the guys who show up think they're the second coming of Rossi.  No matter how much I try to calm them down they just can't seem to understand why we have rules.  In the novice group you can only pass when the bikes are straight up and down or after the apex as the bikes are moving away from each other.  They get frustrated having to wait 5 seconds for a slower rider to clear the apex and stuff it up the inside.  I really hate to do it but I've had to sit them down for a session to think about their riding.  They get mad, I get defensive and it sucks so I don't go there anymore.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: RPM - Robert on October 31, 2021, 12:03:23 PM
Quote from: Motofun on October 31, 2021, 07:18:31 AM
A lot of those incidents have to do with how the organization runs the event.  Some orgs just throw everybody out there to have at it.  Also, I've noticed that where you race has a lot to do with it, local attitudes can affect how riders relate to each other.  There's one track I don't coach at anymore because it just seems the guys who show up think they're the second coming of Rossi.  No matter how much I try to calm them down they just can't seem to understand why we have rules.  In the novice group you can only pass when the bikes are straight up and down or after the apex as the bikes are moving away from each other.  They get frustrated having to wait 5 seconds for a slower rider to clear the apex and stuff it up the inside.  I really hate to do it but I've had to sit them down for a session to think about their riding.  They get mad, I get defensive and it sucks so I don't go there anymore.

I'm sure most groups, cars or bikes, are similar. The race group for our cars is more restrictive than that. To earn your competition or time trials license you have to complete 4 levels of on track "driving education" . Level one has a instructor in the car and you can only pass on usually two straightaways. It is basically a lead and follow with an instructor pointing out the apex, good braking points, acceleration points, some race craft, etc. Level two loses the in car instructor and picks up a couple corners for passing, 3 even more and 4 is wide open passing. While running off the track on a bike can usually be tragic for unseasoned riders, and sometimes for seasoned riders, in the cars we use up a bit of dirt on corner exit. In the driving education classes, touching the dirt, making an unsafe pass, spinning out, or, the most obvious, body contact with another car. Will result in a black flag for the first offense. You are to pull down pit lane and have a discussion with an instructor, second offense will earn you another black flag, a park job for that session and a meeting up in the tower with the group leader. The third offense is a black flag and load it on up, you are headed home. No refund, no ands if slow or buts about it. They are two day weekends and your offenses do not reset after day one. You can also be demoted to a lower group, obviously not from group one, but if you are two or above they can bump you down and you have to start over.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: ZOA NOM on October 31, 2021, 01:31:58 PM
Track is crack. Trust me.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Millietant on October 31, 2021, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: RPM - Robert on October 30, 2021, 12:35:53 PM
Quote from: ribbert on October 30, 2021, 09:05:55 AM
Having said all that, they are definitely a lot of fun and a great place to learn, if only the sessions could be idiot proofed.

Noel

You can. Just rent the track for yourself.

At least that would mean there was only one idiot on the track  :sarcastic: :sarcastic: :sarcastic:
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Pat Conlon on October 31, 2021, 07:58:10 PM
You have bonzo riders on the track, but they should be easy to spot and correct. At a WCR I had a knuckle head pass me on the right, in a corner. He's not around here anymore, other folks got tired of his shenanigans so he moved on.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: andyoutandabout on October 31, 2021, 11:02:41 PM
Yet more reasons as to why the FJowners posse are the best; they parked their biking egos decades ago, realizing they have other things to live for. Besides, it strikes me that racers have to be akin to disciplined martial artists to keep a cool head about themselves when the pace builds. Listening to post race interviews, the top runners sound like they just drove down to the supermarket on a Sunday for a pack of sausages.
Start practicing those pole position deep breathing exercises and let the fun begin.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Millietant on November 01, 2021, 05:11:57 PM
Quote from: andyoutandabout on October 31, 2021, 11:02:41 PM
Yet more reasons as to why the FJowners posse are the best; they parked their biking egos decades ago, realizing they have other things to live for. Besides, it strikes me that racers have to be akin to disciplined martial artists to keep a cool head about themselves when the pace builds. Listening to post race interviews, the top runners sound like they just drove down to the supermarket on a Sunday for a pack of sausages.
Start practicing those pole position deep breathing exercises and let the fun begin.

Not the same skill levels, but a long time ago on one the most famous "bike roads" in the UK, my wife was riding with me on the pillion of the FJ and we were with a group mostly on much sportier bikes and riding solo (in the late 1990's). Riding from Penrith, up to Hartside Cafe, we were behind a rider on a GSXR 750 who was holding us up on every corner, despite riding quite slowly - so, I passed him coming out of a corner onto a short straight and we continued up to the cafe at our "normal" pace (the pace we normally rode at with our 2 best friends who usually rode with us, on a ST 1100 and a XS 1100).

Now, I'm no MotoGP rider, but when we stopped at the Cafe, he pulled over beside us, took off his helmet and his hands were visibly shaking as he tried to light a cigarette and said to us "I can't believe we just came up there that quickly" in a very shaky voice....he didn't stop shaking until he'd had his 3rd cigarette and a cup of coffee. Liz couldn't understand why he was so visibly shaken - He'd been pushing "himself" so hard (but not pushing his bike) to stay with us, that he was wayyy out of his comfort zone - but well within our comfort zone and that of most of the other people who rode with us that day. His ego had put in a very dangerous place !!

I can honestly say that no matter how stupid I think I've been (in my youth  :sarcastic:), I've never gotten to that stage on the roads, but I've learned to steer well clear of riding with groups of people I don't really know who are riding supersports bikes - they always seem to have a point to make when they're riding with someone on a "fat old tourer" and their ego's come into play.

I think that's why I love riding around with others on "fat (old) tourers" - no one has a point to make, or an ego to bruise. We're much more likely to be trying to get 200 miles between fill-ups than hit 200 mph and we're much more interested in experiencing the scenery and the "road" than scaring ourselves silly by out braking ourselves on a blind corner trying to be the next Joey Dunlop.

FJ owners rule  :good2: :good2:
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Pat Conlon on November 05, 2021, 02:49:26 PM
Reminds me of a joke....There was an old bull and a young bull at the top of a hill looking down on a herd of heifers in a field below. The young bull said to the old bull.....
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: roortcloud on January 05, 2022, 09:16:49 PM
Greetings & Happy New Year
Some California track day providers recently published their 2022 schedules. If there is any interest including a track day in the West Coast Rally I can say with certainty that Pacific Track Time has scheduled an event on June 4th & 5th at Thunderhill raceway. My idea for this rally is as follows and clearly open to suggestions & change.
Friday/  Ride to Lake Almanor via hwy 32 & back hwy 70. Lunch & meet up at Lake Almanor at a place TBD.
Saturday/ Check PTT for track day schedule or ride to Lake Almanor in opposite direction.
Camping at Thunderhill raceway or at Stony Gorge.
5 or more hotels in nearby town of Willows approximately 2hr 30min to Lake Almanor or 10min to Thunderhill.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: krusty on January 06, 2022, 12:50:35 AM
Quote from: ribbert on October 30, 2021, 09:05:55 AM
Quote from: Motofun on October 29, 2021, 07:59:24 AM
It may appear as if I'm encouraging folks to try a trackday...well...because I am.  I don't ride fast on the street anymore, no real need.  The track is so much safer, and faster.  It teaches skills that come in handy when street riding too.  It's probably I stop at this point before I get too preachy.... :flag_of_truce:

Track days are a great idea for a whole host of reasons, you can eliminate just about every hazard encountered on the road - except one, the moron with the rush of blood to the head who goes nuts because he's on a race track.


Phillip Island is one of the fastest tracks on the MotoGP circuit which allows amateurs to swipe out in spectacular fashion. My last (and final) track event saw 7 accidents and the day started with a rider trying to overtake me on the inside of a corner with too much speed and the wrong line and coming within a whisker of clipping my front wheel as he went wide. The next one was almost comical in the scale of his poor judgement, just as I was about to lean into turn 1 (a very fast corner) a guy passed me (on the inside) at warp speed, still on the throttle, still in a straight line and in the centre of the track! He made some attempt to brake just after passing me and a nano second before he ran out of bitumen, he must have left the track at 200kph+. How could he not even make an attempt at such a fast corner? It was not a close call but it could have been, it was only a second or two that separated us and only pure luck that placed us apart. I could not get my head around just how someone's judgement could be bad by such a huge margin.

However, the doozy, the incident that more than any other time in my motorcycling life had me convinced I was about to die, was on the last lap of the day. Three quarters of the way down the front straight a rider had come to a complete stop a bit left of the track centre having decided to exit through a gate that had had been opened just beyond the pits ( I doubt it should have been open ) rather than ride half way round the track to the exit.
Coming up on his left at probably 245K's I did not notice him until I saw his wheel turn full lock and his bike start to turn on it's own length, which you can do when you're stopped! I had no time for anything other than to tuck my elbow in, push my knee hard against the tank and wince. I may have even closed my eyes momentarily, I know I consciously braced expecting impact. I do not know how I missed him, I swear his bike looked to be right in my path, it must have been a hair's breadth.
To put that in perspective, it was probably only a second or so from realising he'd stopped to passing him.

Speaking with one of the operators shortly after, he said the 7 prangs was a record and he'd never seen so much chaos and stupidity on one day. He attributed it to the fact that much of the field had come for the MotoGP two days earlier and and were perhaps still pumped from the racing (or perhaps the booze).

I decided dicing with road hazards had treated me better over the years and I would stick with that.  :biggrin:


The photo below is one I took just 2 mins before the flag dropped for the start of the 2015 MotoGP at Phillip Island, inside turn 2. If I was on the grid and was aware of it's presence, I'd want it removed before I started, as would any motorcyclist that knew about kangaroos.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/8333/8134752193_88aae2e4f1_b.jpg)

Having said all that, they are definitely a lot of fun and a great place to learn, if only the sessions could be idiot proofed.

Noel
It's probably a good thing that bikes no longer race at Bathurst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awwQC-32R2k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awwQC-32R2k)
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Flynt on January 06, 2022, 11:46:43 AM
Quote from: roortcloud on January 05, 2022, 09:16:49 PM
Pacific Track Time has scheduled an event on June 4th & 5th at Thunderhill raceway...

Do you know if they'll let me take Diane on the back... :biggrin:

Kidding.  I'm not interested in track days on a bike, but I might come watch.

Frank
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Flynt on March 10, 2022, 10:21:23 AM
Kind of a discussion restart/refresh...

Is there a plan for 2022 WCR?  I was scheduled to be in Europe on vacation, but the Vlad variant has caused us to postpone...  Where's the party?

Frank

Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: T Legg on March 12, 2022, 12:20:56 AM
Quote from: Flynt on March 10, 2022, 10:21:23 AM
Kind of a discussion restart/refresh...

Is there a plan for 2022 WCR?  I was scheduled to be in Europe on vacation, but the Vlad variant has caused us to postpone...  Where's the party?

Frank



I would attend . I'm not interested in riding on the track but I like the area . A good ride would be over to Oroville to La Porte road up to 70 to Quincy then up to Bucks lake and back down to the Oroville dam.  There are many other good roads up there as well.
       I just finished fixing up my 86 FJ  and its rally worthy . I have a new xjr 1250 engine to replace the one I broke on my yellow 84 but I doubt I'll have it ready in time.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: andyoutandabout on March 25, 2022, 02:40:52 AM
Frank and Travis, good thread bump.
The 2022 WCR is open to suggestion, as the absence of fireside discussions from previous rallies obviously resulted in no future plans.
Ron has taken the bull by the horns in terms of track days, but since no other parties are interested in that (except for myself. I fancy at least one day of track focused mayhem), then negotiations have stalled.
1) There are some good roads to ride near the Thunder Hill raceway, so there's possibilities in that area. Ron and I rode a curvaceous route when returning from Frank's WCR last year.
2) I could host a Napa valley get together if favored. Some rooms available, camping in back yard also free folks. Some tasty roads here.
3) We turn up at Randy's shop and refuse to leave until he hands out free cakes

Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: roortcloud on March 25, 2022, 02:11:13 PM
Gentlemen,
I researched alternative accommodations for anyone interested in staying at Thunderhill raceway as part of my proposal for the 2022 WCR.
There is a company in Chico that rents travel trailers & can be delivered and picked up for a fee.
I'm sure there're companies that do the same in other nearby cities.
An estimate for a 35' trailer that sleeps 4 is $711. This includes $280 delivery fee, $100 for a 3500w generator, $54 fee that can be deleted if you have the needed insurance.
Trailer would be delivered Friday & returned Sunday.
If anyone is interested in a trailer for their accommodations & don't want to pay the delivery fee, I may be able to help with pick up & return.
Additionally, Pacific Track Time limits the number of riders in each of 3 groups, as most if not all do. So if you're interested reserve your spot ASAP.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Flynt on March 25, 2022, 10:37:54 PM
It's possible I could put an option together here in Central Oregon as well.  The local Lake Billy Chinook cabins are gone, but we have several other options nearby for camping/cabins/motels.  This year we might just ride Shaniko to Fossil twice...what an amazing ride!  Wizard's once again the magic carpet my bride deserves (with the rebuilt Ohlins that blew right before last year's rally), so we're ready to have a proper FJ event here (no BMW interloper this year!).  No guarantee on wind tunnel time, but that was pretty unusual from my experience thus far.

Andy also came by later in the season when we could add in McKenzie Pass, another nice route Andy and I rode on his summer adventure tour.  It's open by mid June typically and will maybe be early this year.  Maybe move back 2-3 weeks from usual WCR date and do Ron's track day on the normal WCR schedule?

Prior attendees augment Oregon bit as appropriate...  The two rides I mention are truly epic.

Frank
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: roortcloud on April 11, 2022, 04:27:06 PM
Greetings gentlemen.
Just a couple months to decide where the WCR will be held. I rode the proposed west track at Thunderhill for the first time Saturday. The 2 mile 10 turn racetrack is fairly technical compared to Sears Point but can be fast with 100 + mph straights. PTT put on a solid program. There were 2 red flag stoppages so the riding times were adjusted along  with the lunch break to get everyone plenty of track time.
The facility has well kept mens & I presume women's rest rooms & showers open all night. The covered parking areas on both sides of the clubhouse  provide plenty of shade with electrical outlets and at least 1 water faucet I used.
Let's get the ball (FJ) rolling & sign up. I've already registered & am committed to this event. It would be great to have an on track FJ parade.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: T Legg on May 14, 2022, 02:59:39 PM
Well it doesn't look good for the 2022 west coast rally. I'm still not interested in doing a track day and it's probably too late to register for a spot on the track anyway. I would still attend for the Friday ride if anyone is going. Rebecca from bucks lake lodge called me yesterday to tell me she has six rooms and a cabin available. If nothing else is happening I may take a room and go riding up there for Friday and Saturday. Has everyone else but Ron given up on the rally?
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Flynt on May 14, 2022, 09:12:46 PM
I'm interested in joining at Buck's Lake...  Diane might join as well and Wiz is ready to roll.  Anything I should know in advance or just call them for reservations?

Frank
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: T Legg on May 14, 2022, 11:21:47 PM
We can just call and reserve a room . I didn't make any plans with her yet I left a message a couple weeks ago asking if they had rooms and she just got back to me yesterday. I will commit and call and reserve a room tommarrow . I'll mention that you will be calling Frank , if I get ahold of her first.
   Ian has said he will come also.
If anyone else is interested she has the six top floor rooms each with two beds available. She hopes to have the large cabin ready it has a couple bedrooms in it. Two years ago the rooms were around 110.00 I think.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Flynt on May 15, 2022, 07:39:18 AM
Quote from: T Legg on May 14, 2022, 11:21:47 PM
We can just call and reserve a room . I didn't make any plans with her yet I left a message a couple weeks ago asking if they had rooms and she just got back to me yesterday. I will commit and call and reserve a room tommarrow . I'll mention that you will be calling Frank , if I get ahold of her first.
   Ian has said he will come also.
If anyone else is interested she has the six top floor rooms each with two beds available. She hopes to have the large cabin ready it has a couple bedrooms in it. Two years ago the rooms were around 110.00 I think.

Just to confirm...  Riding June 3rd and 4th?
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: T Legg on May 15, 2022, 09:53:26 AM
Yes. Ian and I plan to arrive Thursday  afternoon and ride Friday and Saturday June 3rd and fourth.
  We have ridden some very nice routes through the area and there are others we have yet to try. The riding routes are open to discussion . There are many highly rated roads in this area .
        Travis
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Flynt on May 16, 2022, 07:06:05 PM
Quote from: T Legg on May 15, 2022, 09:53:26 AM
Yes. Ian and I plan to arrive Thursday  afternoon and ride Friday and Saturday June 3rd and fourth.

OK...  I have message into Becky and we'll see what develops.  If it works out we'll probably stay Saturday night as well and return to paradise on Sunday.

Frank
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: T Legg on May 16, 2022, 07:14:29 PM
That's is our plan also.
Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: Flynt on May 16, 2022, 07:17:15 PM
Quote from: T Legg on May 16, 2022, 07:14:29 PM
That's is our plan also.

So you're coming back to Oregon with us...?   :good2:

Title: Re: 2022 West Coast Rally
Post by: T Legg on May 16, 2022, 11:49:23 PM
Well I guess we will ride back out to hwy. 395 with you anyway.

   I've been working on the 86 fj1200. I had the cracked supertrap welded up and I repacked it ,replaced and lubricated the instrument cluster . None of the gauges worked previously. Lubricated the sticking choke and throttle  cables. New HH pads on the front brakes and disconnected the leaking anti dive valves. Switched the front brakes to dot five fluid and put on new sport demon tires. I adjusted the preload on the front forks and rear hagon shock. I also adjusted the valves and replaced the cracked wind screen. I checked the chain and sprockets and they were in great shape but the master link was over swaged and actually had a crack in it. I will replace it tommarrow I don't need a repeat of last year.
    When I bought this bike it just sat because of all these little problems now it rides pretty nice. The clutch still slips at wide open throttle when it's cold but hopefully an oil change will fix that .
   This bike was up for sale for a year before he finally dropped the price in half to one thousand dollars . His ad said it was professionally maintained. I'll take owner maintained any time .