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Title: 1992 FJ1200 front brakes, HELP!!!
Post by: FCBIII on April 16, 2021, 12:09:48 PM
I noticed yesterday a puddle of brake fluid under my left front brake caliper. So I figured it's time to replace the front brake calipers and brake lines. I thought I would buy the stainless brake lines from RPM. I have found these brake calipers on Ebay, are they the ones I need? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-03-Yamaha-R1-R6-Rebuilt-Refurbed-loaded-Blue-Spot-front-brake-caliper-set/233961671268?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3D98a6b8c25cfa4f7bab19afc48cc3c7d5%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D233961668882%26itm%3D233961671268%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2506613%26brand%3DYamaha&_trksid=p2506613.c100290.m3507 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-03-Yamaha-R1-R6-Rebuilt-Refurbed-loaded-Blue-Spot-front-brake-caliper-set/233961671268?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3D98a6b8c25cfa4f7bab19afc48cc3c7d5%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D233961668882%26itm%3D233961671268%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2506613%26brand%3DYamaha&_trksid=p2506613.c100290.m3507)
Title: Re: 1992 FJ1200 front brakes, HELP!!!
Post by: Waiex191 on April 16, 2021, 01:40:27 PM
Here are the ones I bought:
(http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19343.0;attach=15597)

Either I was lucky, or those are expensive!  Here is Milletant's helpful response when I was looking for mine.
Quote from: Millietant on June 09, 2020, 02:23:41 PM
Here you go Bryan,

Monoblocks are the Yamaha "Blue Spot" caliper s from the FZ1, R1, YZF 1000 R Thunderace, R6 - from the late 1990's up to about 2005.

Here's an eBay search based on. 2001-2005 FZ1

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=fz1+brake+caliper+01+05&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=+fz1+brake+caliper (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=fz1+brake+caliper+01+05&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=+fz1+brake+caliper)

They work with a FJ master cylinder, but work better with a matching FZ1/Thunderace master cylinder.

The blue spots are much better than the stockers.  I used the FZ1 master cylinder as well.

Edit: here is a pair with the MC for $65.  I'd buy those and buy the rebuild kits from RPM.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/01-05-YAMAHA-FZ1-Front-Wheel-Brake-Calipers-Set-NS/254829338084?hash=item3b55031de4:g:SAsAAOSwlAdf54~s (https://www.ebay.com/itm/01-05-YAMAHA-FZ1-Front-Wheel-Brake-Calipers-Set-NS/254829338084?hash=item3b55031de4:g:SAsAAOSwlAdf54~s)
Title: Re: 1992 FJ1200 front brakes, HELP!!!
Post by: Waiex191 on April 16, 2021, 01:48:53 PM
Using Militant's original search there are several options if you want to buy the MC and two calipers - all under $75.  So it looks like I was not lucky - they are out there. 
Title: Re: 1992 FJ1200 front brakes, HELP!!!
Post by: Pat Conlon on April 16, 2021, 01:50:35 PM
Yes, those will be fine, at first blush you would think $235 to be a tad bit on the expensive side.
I've seen used Blue Spots sold for around $60 to $80 a pair.
However, if you wanted to be totally safe and rebuild them, then factor in the cost of parts to rebuild them (add $80 for 2 sets of brake pads and $80 for 2 caliper seal kits) you are going to end up close to $235.

Your oem FJ master cylinder uses a 5/8" dia. piston (16mm)
Get a 14mm master cylinder for the best feel from your new system.

Bryan's above post shows an excellent choice for both the calipers and the 14mm m/c.

Cheers

Pat
Title: Re: 1992 FJ1200 front brakes, HELP!!!
Post by: Waiex191 on April 16, 2021, 03:06:14 PM
The original $235 ones have unbranded pads.  If it was me I'd rather do the rebuild myself and control what parts I used.  Plus having the master cylinder is a real benefit.
Title: Re: 1992 FJ1200 front brakes, HELP!!!
Post by: Pat Conlon on April 16, 2021, 05:35:42 PM
Quote from: Waiex191 on April 16, 2021, 03:06:14 PM
The original $235 ones have unbranded pads.  If it was me I'd rather do the rebuild myself and control what parts I used.  Plus having the master cylinder is a real benefit.

Yep, very true :good2:

Also, a note to FCBIII, when you change your brake pad compounds (like going from organic to sintered) don't forget to scrub the old transfer layers off your rotors.
Title: Re: 1992 FJ1200 front brakes, HELP!!!
Post by: Waiex191 on April 16, 2021, 05:44:19 PM
What is the hot setup for pads these days?  I thought I had seen recommendations before but having trouble finding them. 
Title: Re: 1992 FJ1200 front brakes, HELP!!!
Post by: Pat Conlon on April 16, 2021, 05:53:17 PM
I like EBC HH sintered in the front and in the back.
I have Galfer Wave Rotors and they warn against using organic pads with the sharp edges on their rotors.

When I had smooth rotors I ran a HH in the front and organic in the back.