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Title: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Flynt on December 27, 2020, 09:48:36 PM
So Here's what I think I could do pretty easily...  look up Cove Palisades State Park in OR.  I live in the Park pretty much and they have some very cool , but very limited accommodations...

1. 3 cabins about 7 miles from my house...  maybe 3-4 people per cabin.  These need to be booked a year out...

2, dozens of campsites for tents and RVs in Crooked River and Deschutes campgrounds.  Not as hard to book...

+ lots of camping spots around my house (indoor and outdoor) for those so bold...  easier to book, but buyer beware!

Might get better from there, but I'm curious how many people would come to Bend Oregon area for a rally this year?  I think we'd go for after Colorado, but maybe could sequence in between WCR and CO...  we'd need to move something.

This area is truly amazing and very well suited to a rally...  I'm seeking some data, but not guaranteeing anything...  other than I'll ride with you if you come up.

Thanks for any input...

Frank
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: T Legg on December 27, 2020, 10:44:34 PM
Ian and I would ride to Oregon for a rally and we prefer camping although after Hayfork I think I need a better rainfly. I haven't heard anything about a WCR yet yours might have to be it for 2021.
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: andyoutandabout on December 28, 2020, 02:49:16 AM
Rally senses tingling.
All quiet on WCR and gathering in general.
They even cancelled the 2021 TT. That's two years running.
I'm staying put until I've had the jabs, so it's all down to the vaccine distribution network for me.
Good shout out anyway Frank.
We know you've the roads to back it up
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: ZOA NOM on December 29, 2020, 09:34:09 PM
Timing would be my only deterrent. Been cooped up too long, for sure.
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Paul.1478 on December 30, 2020, 11:30:35 AM
for the right roads I may ride from ATL. It would be a fun adventure.
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Flynt on December 31, 2020, 05:45:44 PM
I'll start looking into this area as a WCR option.  Travis - it's NOT going to rain during the WCR if it's up here. 

A slightly more solid commit on who might consider it would help.  I know you'll need more description of what could be on the agenda, so I'll start with pretty fair riding country.  You'll need to do some research to convince yourself.  There is lodging on air bnb out here and decent motels in town along with some restaurants, so I'm sure people can piece together options to suit all tastes.

Home base would be Cove Palisades State Park in Culver Oregon.  Not Bend, which is an hour South of me.  Oregon roads are very nicely maintained and offer lots of variety.  Once we get an idea of what might develop, we can get serious about setting up some rides.  For example, a long but awesome tour would be to start here, ride over to Salem, then down to Eugene, then back here...  the sweepers over the Cascades each way are mostly along a river and absolutely beautiful.  Then there are the roads to the East...  sweepers through lava fields that look like Kona coast.  There's also the possibility of some Adventure riding...  if there's interest.

I'd support this being the WCR if the crowd chooses and I'll provide names and numbers for folks to make their lodging and meal arrangements...  but I'm not getting in the middle of anything much planning related (ok, maybe lunch stops and a nice group dinner while everyone's here). 

Let me know if you'd seriously do it... 

Frank

Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: T Legg on December 31, 2020, 07:11:49 PM
I just spoke with Ian and he and I are in. We are able to be flexible on dates to accommodate any one else's availability or vaccine inoculation schedule. We would come vaccine or not there is no need to hug anybody to go for a ride together.
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Flynt on December 31, 2020, 10:39:37 PM
Quote from: T Legg on December 31, 2020, 07:11:49 PM
I just spoke with Ian and he and I are in. We are able to be flexible on dates to accommodate any one else's availability or vaccine inoculation schedule. We would come vaccine or not there is no need to hug anybody to go for a ride together.

You guys can likely just camp in the Park or even on my property...  thanks for signing in.

Frank
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Flynt on December 31, 2020, 10:46:37 PM
So this is getting more serious quickly...  we'd be talking about June 4th, 5th, and 6th depart I guess.  Although I don't care about this happening on a weekend...  probably prefer not.  Rick...  what else do you need to know?  Mike - are your ears on?  This will be an event for those that sign up, make their arrangements, show up, and enjoy the ride.  I'll develop some options and participate...  and it will be fun.

Let's make our intentions known...

Frank
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: T Legg on January 01, 2021, 09:31:37 AM
Quote from: Flynt on December 31, 2020, 05:45:44 PM
I'll start looking into this area as a WCR option.  Travis - it's NOT going to rain during the WCR if it's up here.

Being from arid Nevada Ian and I had never experienced a ride that long in rain that intense as we did on our way to Hayfork. We were supposed to ride out with aviation Fred and his friend early Thursday morning but the rainsuit my son had ordered was delayed so we told Fred to head out without us. It finally arrived by noon and by then the sky's were black and the temperature had dropped to the low fifty's. We made the correct decision to don our rainsuits then. Within five miles of leaving Reno the  rain started coming down as hard as I've ever seen much less ridden through and continued for hours all the way to Susanville. The roads were like rivers it was a challenge to see where we're going. The rain suits worked fabulously but not so much my gloves and gortex lined leather boots. I had to remove my gloves and endure the stinging rain drops all the way. Despite my gortex lined boots I could feel the water streaming through them as we rode. Finally after reaching Susanville the rain dropped down to a drizzle but as we headed over the pass we encountered about two inches of slushy snow that had fallen just before we arrived. After pushing through that we dropped down in altitude and the rain reduced to patches of light sprinkles and driving at triple digit speeds on in to Hay fork dried us out. When we got to Hayfork with no phone coverage and just as the sun was setting Ian and I were discussing how to find the the ranch when two helpful locals told us to take the road just after the bridge and follow it to the ranch.after about ten miles the rode turned to dirt and began to climb up into the mountains ten more miles later in total darkness Ian got cell coverage and we could see  we were in the middle of nowhere. Amazingly we saw a blm government truck with two obviously very dedicated employees inside. The young man and woman inside seemed quite surprised to see any one out there much less two street motorcycles. After consulting with them and their maps (oddly they had no idea where they were) we retraced our route went back over the bridge we had crossed and took the road on that side. We finally arrived around ten o'clock that night. A memorable ride.











Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Flynt on January 02, 2021, 12:18:24 PM
Quote from: T Legg on January 01, 2021, 09:31:37 AM
Quote from: Flynt on December 31, 2020, 05:45:44 PM
I'll start looking into this area as a WCR option.  Travis - it's NOT going to rain during the WCR if it's up here.

Being from arid Nevada Ian and I had never experienced a ride that long in rain that intense as we did on our way to Hayfork. We were supposed to ride out with aviation Fred and his friend early Thursday morning but the rainsuit my son had ordered was delayed so we told Fred to head out without us. It finally arrived by noon and by then the sky's were black and the temperature had dropped to the low fifty's. We made the correct decision to don our rainsuits then. Within five miles of leaving Reno the  rain started coming down as hard as I've ever seen much less ridden through and continued for hours all the way to Susanville. The roads were like rivers it was a challenge to see where we're going. The rain suits worked fabulously but not so much my gloves and gortex lined leather boots. I had to remove my gloves and endure the stinging rain drops all the way. Despite my gortex lined boots I could feel the water streaming through them as we rode. Finally after reaching Susanville the rain dropped down to a drizzle but as we headed over the pass we encountered about two inches of slushy snow that had fallen just before we arrived. After pushing through that we dropped down in altitude and the rain reduced to patches of light sprinkles and driving at triple digit speeds on in to Hay fork dried us out. When we got to Hayfork with no phone coverage and just as the sun was setting Ian and I were discussing how to find the the ranch when two helpful locals told us to take the road just after the bridge and follow it to the ranch.after about ten miles the rode turned to dirt and began to climb up into the mountains ten more miles later in total darkness Ian got cell coverage and we could see  we were in the middle of nowhere. Amazingly we saw a blm government truck with two obviously very dedicated employees inside. The young man and woman inside seemed quite surprised to see any one out there much less two street motorcycles. After consulting with them and their maps (oddly they had no idea where they were) we retraced our route went back over the bridge we had crossed and took the road on that side. We finally arrived around ten o'clock that night. A memorable ride.

The Hayfork debut, arranged by Marsh back then, was a complete bust for riding I'd say...  other than the food, fire, and company it would have been a complete bust.  The weather we had the evening of the first night this year... when your fly drowned... was what we had all day both days.  You'd see the skies lighten up a bit, we'd all gaar and go hoping the break was coming...  we'd make it out to town and usually turn around a come back to the Ranch.

The riding days last time were AWESOME, but I think the odds aren't good...

Frank
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: yamaha fj rider on January 03, 2021, 06:42:29 AM
Hello all.

I would love to attend a rally in your neck of the woods Frank. I will commit to this, as best I can these days. Other factors in life that are preventing me to commit to anything 100% right now. I missed not going any rallies last year.

I can make almost any accommodations work. Looking forward to a place to meet and ride. Thank you Frank for your efforts. Anything I can do please let me know.

Best wishes all.

Kurt

Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: T Legg on January 03, 2021, 07:55:14 AM
Anyone coming from a distance to attend are welcome to use Reno as a waypoint on their trip. Reno has loads of motel rooms or for campers I have five acres that can be used. We could all ride out together to Frank's. I'm not sure exactly but I think it's a five or six hour ride from Reno.

     Travis Legg
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Canuck FJ on January 04, 2021, 04:02:54 PM
I'd be into an Oregon rally, provided they open the Canadian Border in time.  I may also have to show up on a Triumph, as neither of my FJ's are roadworthy at the moment.
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: T Legg on January 04, 2021, 04:54:21 PM
There will be at least one Kawasaki attending. A Triumph won't offend anyone.
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Mike Ramos on January 11, 2021, 11:45:40 AM
Good morning Gentlemen,

I'm in for whatever plans & arrangements take hold. 

Having had a a delightful time riding the area with Flynt & Andyoutandabout everyone can rest assured it will be excellent.

Ride safe,

Midget
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: T Legg on January 11, 2021, 12:38:30 PM
Quote from: andyoutandabout on December 28, 2020, 02:49:16 AM
Rally senses tingling.
All quiet on WCR and gathering in general.
They even cancelled the 2021 TT. That's two years running.
I'm staying put until I've had the jabs, so it's all down to the vaccine distribution network for me.
Good shout out anyway Frank.
We know you've the roads to back it up

In Nevada educators are on the list to be first in line for the vaccine. Is it the same in California? Even at your tender young age you should be able to get one and come riding.
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Millietant on January 11, 2021, 04:51:39 PM
At the rate things are going I doubt much of the population will be vaccinated by June Travis, production and delivery capacity isn't there to hit upwards of 350 million people in 5 months.
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: T Legg on January 11, 2021, 06:41:37 PM
No it's not likely or necessary that 350,000,000
Vaccinations be delivered by June. We can
subtract the number of those who have or will contract it by June and I don't think a 100 % rate is needed to have a motorcycle rally. My point however is that Andy being a teacher should be in the first or second tier of vaccinations. I have family who are educators who expect to be vaccinated in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Flynt on January 12, 2021, 11:33:34 AM
Quote from: Mike Ramos on January 11, 2021, 11:45:40 AM
Good morning Gentlemen,

I'm in for whatever plans & arrangements take hold.  

Having had a a delightful time riding the area with Flynt & Andyoutandabout everyone can rest assured it will be excellent.

Ride safe,

Midget

I'm going to suggest the following...

We are tied up with a Track Day on June 11, 12, 13...  but otherwise pretty open in June.  If this is the WCR for this year, we can take the June 4, 5, 6 weekend and start making reservations.

Accommodation options I know of are:

1.  Cove Palisades State Park...  they have a few cabins, but I suspect they are booked already.  They also have lots of camping and RV camping spots and we're pretty much surrounded by Federal land where camping is OK and free.  If camping or RV is your plan, take a look and see if you can lock something down.

2.  Hotel/Motel in Redmond or Madras, 20-30 miles from Cove Palisades...  Even Bend could be an option, but that's 45 minutes from the Park.  We can arrange morning meet ups and group lunches during the rides, then maybe have a group dinner/get together.  Not ideal, but no hotels out this way.

3.  Air BnB...  we live on what's called the Grandview Peninsula and I know there are some private home rentals in areas called 3 Rivers, Airport Park, Forrest Park, and Rim Park (where we live).  Something out here would be ok, but services out this way are very limited...  plan to go to the Cove Palisades Marina or there are a few places in Culver to get any prepared food.  Culver has a Dollar General, but real groceries require a trip to Madras or Terrebonne.  

So my suggestion is somebody (Travis?) take the plunge, set the date, and make some reservations...  then start an attendee list with name and your plans so others can make their plans.  I'd encourage people to stay in the area longer if you can...  Crater Lake, Newberry Caldera, Sisters/Camp Sherman, Mt Hood/Hood River, etc...  lots of things around us that could make a very nice trip...  (Maybe Derek and Donna can weigh in, they are familiar with the area).

Once we have a list of folks that will make the trek up here, I'll take up the task of planning rides, lunch stops, and a group dinner location.  Please feel free to ask questions as you're working through your plans, but I'm not going to do any planning around the lodging...  that'll be on you.

Frank

PS - Palisades has several camping options...  you'll want Crooked River for the best location, other than the cabins which are right at the Marina.  Avoid Perry South and Monte...  they're another 20minutes past our place and, although very nice, are really off the beaten path and require extended travel on gravel roads to get to.
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Flynt on January 12, 2021, 01:47:27 PM
Quote from: Flynt on January 12, 2021, 11:33:34 AM
Quote from: Mike Ramos on January 11, 2021, 11:45:40 AM
Good morning Gentlemen,

I'm in for whatever plans & arrangements take hold.  

Having had a a delightful time riding the area with Flynt & Andyoutandabout everyone can rest assured it will be excellent.

Ride safe,

Midget

I'm going to suggest the following...

We are tied up with a Track Day on June 11, 12, 13...  but otherwise pretty open in June.  If this is the WCR for this year, we can take the June 4, 5, 6 weekend and start making reservations.

Accommodation options I know of are:

1.  Cove Palisades State Park...  they have a few cabins, but I suspect they are booked already.  They also have lots of camping and RV camping spots and we're pretty much surrounded by Federal land where camping is OK and free.  If camping or RV is your plan, take a look and see if you can lock something down.

2.  Hotel/Motel in Redmond or Madras, 20-30 miles from Cove Palisades...  Even Bend could be an option, but that's 45 minutes from the Park.  We can arrange morning meet ups and group lunches during the rides, then maybe have a group dinner/get together.  Not ideal, but no hotels out this way.

3.  Air BnB...  we live on what's called the Grandview Peninsula and I know there are some private home rentals in areas called 3 Rivers, Airport Park, Forrest Park, and Rim Park (where we live).  Something out here would be ok, but services out this way are very limited...  plan to go to the Cove Palisades Marina or there are a few places in Culver to get any prepared food.  Culver has a Dollar General, but real groceries require a trip to Madras or Terrebonne.  

So my suggestion is somebody (Travis?) take the plunge, set the date, and make some reservations...  then start an attendee list with name and your plans so others can make their plans.  I'd encourage people to stay in the area longer if you can...  Crater Lake, Newberry Caldera, Sisters/Camp Sherman, Mt Hood/Hood River, etc...  lots of things around us that could make a very nice trip...  (Maybe Derek and Donna can weigh in, they are familiar with the area).

Once we have a list of folks that will make the trek up here, I'll take up the task of planning rides, lunch stops, and a group dinner location.  Please feel free to ask questions as you're working through your plans, but I'm not going to do any planning around the lodging...  that'll be on you.

Frank

PS - Palisades has several camping options...  you'll want Crooked River for the best location, other than the cabins which are right at the Marina.  Avoid Perry South and Monte...  they're another 20minutes past our place and, although very nice, are really off the beaten path and require extended travel on gravel roads to get to.

So I did do some checking into reservations...  Turns out you cannot make them over 30 days out since Covid restrictions were imposed.  This is changing on Jan 14th at 0600 PST as I understand it...  you'll then be able to make reservations for up to 6 months out.  There might be a window of opportunity to get the Deshcutes River Campground and possibly even a cabin for those that are on top of it.

Who's serious...?

Frank
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: andyoutandabout on January 12, 2021, 06:54:31 PM
Travis, I'll take the 'tender young age' part of the quote.
And you're right about they don't need 100% jab rate, 75% to 80% is estimated.
I'm keen to get one, but not super keen. Certainly worth waiting a while in case people start going mad because of the rushed vaccine chemicals.
You know, body is a temple and all that.
Anyway, it's all up for grabs and thoughts of rallies are always good thoughts.
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Flynt on January 12, 2021, 07:24:27 PM
Quote from: andyoutandabout on January 12, 2021, 06:54:31 PM
Travis, I'll take the 'tender young age' part of the quote.
And you're right about they don't need 100% jab rate, 75% to 80% is estimated.
I'm keen to get one, but not super keen. Certainly worth waiting a while in case people start going mad because of the rushed vaccine chemicals.
You know, body is a temple and all that.
Anyway, it's all up for grabs and thoughts of rallies are always good thoughts.
I believe we could do this whole thing pretty compliant with current Covid guidelines here if things don't get MUCH worse (we are already "Extreme").  We have outdoor dining, with masks when you can't distance and people here are doing it.  I'm thinking one ride would be to the east where restrictions are minimal...  indoor dining is even ok because they meet criteria for such, but we'd eat outside.  Other ride to the west would be pretty self contained with a stop for lunch somewhere west of the Cascades.  The dinner venue I have in mind would be outdoor (DI's concert venue Andy) and we can space out according to what is required at the time.

Oregon appears to be heading the direction of jabs for those in line, regardless of qualifications...  I think we'll all be there shortly since some folks aren't ready to get it.  Whatever the result if about 50% of the population have the vaccine by June, I think we're going to ba on very solid ground to move forward from a Covid perspective.  We're in and will be riding in a very remote and lightly populated area.  I'm personally not very worried about inadvertent exposure in and around where we live.

I believe we can make it happen and I think avoid any financial penalties if it all falls apart...  I'm game if you are!  

So, as we said in the USN, "Liberty for the Brave gentlemen..."!  Who's ready to grab this bull by the horns?

Frank
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: T Legg on January 12, 2021, 11:47:10 PM
I'll make reservations somewhere (I'm not sure where yet) on the fourteenth. I am still open to any date. The 4th,5th,and 6th sounds fine but if the 18th,19th & 20th works better for the majority that's ok too.
Those who wish to attend should state their  preferred date.

     Travis Legg      no prefference
          Ian Legg      no prefference
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Flynt on January 14, 2021, 09:12:27 AM
Quote from: T Legg on January 12, 2021, 11:47:10 PM
I'll make reservations somewhere (I'm not sure where yet) on the fourteenth. I am still open to any date. The 4th,5th,and 6th sounds fine but if the 18th,19th & 20th works better for the majority that's ok too.
Those who wish to attend should state their  preferred date.

     Travis Legg      no prefference
          Ian Legg      no prefference


Just checked and reservations for all the campgrounds are now open... and filling pretty quickly.  Big RVs would be happiest on Loop E, but most anything will fit in Deschutes Loops A, B, C, ...  Cabins don't appear to be open to book yet.  FYI - the campgrounds here are pretty much full all summer, so don't delay if you think you might come up.

Good luck

Frank
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: yamaha fj rider on January 14, 2021, 10:41:16 AM
Frank, thank you for doing this. I am looking forward to this.

I am as committed as I can be to this. My mother moved in with Kiki and I, three and a half years ago. She needs someone to watch over her and help her with some daily tasks. Because she is my mother, I am the primary care giver (Kiki is a great help). Someone must be here to care for her. Kiki earner a large promotion, almost three years ago and her new career requires her to travel part of the time. She has not been traveling since the pandemic but, this will resume at some point. Hopefully Kiki will be here and there won't be any problem with me going to the rally. I should know what her schedule will be a month or two in advance.

I can make almost any accommodations work. Anyone who would like to share a cabin, motel room or camp site please let me know. Also any one traveling to the rally and would like to travel together, please let me know. I prefer to ride to the rally but, I'm flexible.

If Bette's Place is open in Hood River, OR, it has my vote for breakfast or lunch.

Looking forward to seeing everyone.

Best wises to all.

Kurt
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: T Legg on January 15, 2021, 12:33:14 AM
We booked camp site B-47 in the Deschutes campground for Thursday the third, Friday the fourth, and Saturday the fifth. The adjacent campsites are open at this time. These are tent sites and the campground has shower facilities. Each site can have up to six people but I don't know how many tents. Our planned route is up 395 from Reno to Susanville then 139 to Klamath falls then 97 to Culver. We are leaving Reno around 8:00 am. If anybody will be passing through Reno they are welcome to camp on my property and ride out with us. If anybodys route coincides with part of our route we would be happy to meet up on the way if the timing works out. Can't wait to see everybody who makes the trip. Last year there were two of us I think we can at least triple that this year.


                          Travis Legg
                               Ian Legg
Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: Flynt on January 15, 2021, 09:14:31 AM
Quote from: T Legg on January 15, 2021, 12:33:14 AM
We booked camp site B-47 in the Deschutes campground for Thursday the third, Friday the fourth, and Saturday the fifth. The adjacent campsites are open at this time. These are tent sites and the campground has shower facilities. Each site can have up to six people but I don't know how many tents. Our planned route is up 395 from Reno to Susanville then 139 to Klamath falls then 97 to Culver. We are leaving Reno around 8:00 am. If anybody will be passing through Reno they are welcome to camp on my property and ride out with us. If anybodys route coincides with part of our route we would be happy to meet up on the way if the timing works out. Can't wait to see everybody who makes the trip. Last year there were two of us I think we can at least triple that this year.


                          Travis Legg
                               Ian Legg

Well alrighty then!  Others should be prompt on reserving more space...  I suspect it will go quickly.

Randy's going to start a new thread for the:

2021 PNW Rally
Cove Palisades State Park, Oregon
June 4-6, 2021

The campground has direct access to fishing on Lake Billy Chinook (LA Mike?) and Hiking on Tam a Lau trail...  Marina has a store and serves decent breakfast/lunch in a very scenic spot overlooking the lake...  There's also Desert Inn in Metolius that's a hidden jewel (Andy can attest) and Juniper Cove in Culver that's a decent steak house. 

I'll start setting up routes for Friday and Saturday, Sunday can be optional if there's interest.

C'mon vaccine!

Frank


Title: Re: 202? PNW Rally?
Post by: racerrad8 on January 15, 2021, 10:55:18 AM
This topic is now locked and all 2021 WCR information can be found on here: 2021 WCR, Cove Palisades State Park, June 4-6, 2021 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=19730.0)

As mentioned by Frank, things will probably fill up really fast as everyone in the country is ready to get out of the house for 2021.

Randy - RPM