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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Vilike on October 03, 2019, 07:31:55 AM

Title: FJ1200 models identification
Post by: Vilike on October 03, 2019, 07:31:55 AM
Hi there guys !

I just wondered about the question of the sub-models of the FJ series. I wanna know what the letters mean after the 1100/1200 number ?

For example :

1UX FJ1200S 1986 USA = '1UX" clear thing its the engine code. "1986 USA" clear again, year and country. But why is the "S" after the 1200 ? What does that mean ? Is there an official
explanation method ?
  And so on :

FJ1100N
FJ110NC
FJ1200S
FJ1200SC
FJ1200T
FJ1200TC
FJ1200U
FJ1200W
FJ1200A
FJ1200DC
FJ1200ADC
FJ1200ABS

Thanx !
Title: Re: FJ1200 models identification
Post by: Tuned forks on October 03, 2019, 04:47:24 PM
I've wondered about this as well.

Joe
Title: Re: FJ1200 models identification
Post by: Pat Conlon on October 03, 2019, 05:23:56 PM
The last letter C indicates that it is a Calif model equipped with a special fuel tank vapor recovery system.
We know what ABS means.

Certain FJ models have power restrictions on the engine. France, Switzerland and Japan FJ models I recall are power restricted. I wonder how those are differentiated from the full power models.
Title: Re: FJ1200 models identification
Post by: aviationfred on October 04, 2019, 01:58:31 AM
Here are the letter codes with corresponding years using a reference for USA spec FJ's. The codes may be a bit different for FJ's from around the world.


1984 FJ1100L
1984 FJ1100LC = California

1985 FJ1100N
1985 FJ1100NC = California

1986 FJ1200S
1986 FJ1200SC = California

1987 FJ1200T
1987 FJ1200TC = California

1988 FJ1200U No United States version

1989 FJ1200W
1989 FJ1200WC = California

1990 FJ1200A
1990 FJ1200AC = California

1991 FJ1200B
1991 FJ1200BC = California

1992 FJ1200D
1992 FJ1200DC = California
1992 FJ1200AD ABS option
1992 FJ1200ADC = California ABS option

1993 FJ1200AE Standard ABS
1993 FJ1200AEC = California Standard ABS

For the 1994
          1995
          1996 models I don't know the letter designation as my USA reference source only goes to 1993

As for the restricted models, I am going to say the designation may be in the VIN number


Fred
Title: Re: FJ1200 models identification
Post by: Troyskie on October 04, 2019, 02:21:38 AM
G'day Fellas,

Nice work Fred.

I can't help with what means what on the full list. I'll get in touch with Spiro at Yamaha and beg again.

Below is general manufacturing versioning info, not necessarily specific to the FJ. The VIN also contains much of the information.

Remember, version 1 started with an 'A'. It didn't make production.

Designations can be design style, parts change, performance change, compliance change, or production change (plus more).

Sometimes it was to denote the region or country designation. Many countries use UK MfT standards like emissions, many others use US, etc. The designation sometimes relates to what standards they are made to meet.

S might mean 'Sport' or 'Super', or 'Shit'  :sarcastic:.

Some of the other designations relate to upgrades or accessories such as ABS.

Some of the designations relate to production line and or manufacturing. For example, once a mould or some tooling is out of tolerance they may choose to replace it with an upgraded version. A good example of this is in the parts microfiche where the trailing zeros will change from xxx-xxxxxx-00-00 to xxx-xxxxxx-00-01. This part was replaced by an upgraded one.
Once enough parts are upgraded (they do plan this) the designation of model changes as they upgrade or facelift the lot. They can also change suppliers of components, same effect. They can change materials and have completely new parts and part numbers.

If they've made it on a different production line it will have a different designation. They'll generally devote different production lines to specific models (obvious I know), but given the JIT methodology they did not always follow that rule (clever buggers!). So some models will have an extra letter to denote the initial model, then another to denote which production line.
This is normally done in the VIN, not the model, but as manufacturers are want to do, they make the rules to suit themselves as much as they can.

You can get a feel of the tempo of manufacture from the VIN list http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=13764.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=13764.0) . Generally, they like to make a production run in batches of around 10,000 bikes (in the case of the FJ only), remember I said 'generally'. there is also the demand, supply and obsolescence.

IIRC, I've seen posted here bikes built in 95, when general parts production had ceased, these bikes were assembled from final runs. The very last unspecified number made were sent to OCE, Oceania, basically Australia, New Zealand, South Pacific. It might have been a few hundred or some thousands. The VIN list doesn't state.
From those posts I believe that bikes made in 94 were the last true production run and others are end of line run-outs and made to a variety of model types as they simple call them FJ1200.