Better late than never, I've finally bought myself an FJ (a low-mileage 1985), and am in search of a good service manual. Which is best (Clymer, Haynes, other?) and where is a good source to get one? Thanks!
Don't bother with anything other than a GYSM (Genuine Yamaha Service Manual). The others have errors and less information.
Quote from: Curmudgeon54 on September 12, 2019, 07:19:59 AMBetter late than never, I've finally bought myself an FJ (a low-mileage 1985), and am in search of a good service manual. Which is best (Clymer, Haynes, other?) and where is a good source to get one? Thanks!
Curmudgeon54,
I agree on the FSM, if you can find one. They cost ~US$100 (+/- 10) from a Yamaha dealer, if still available there. I can't give you a good source, otherwise. If you buy a used book on-line, make sure that you will be getting the real
book, and not just a pirated CD copy (worth less than a buck). The CDs are mostly illegal
scanned copies, which means that you can not Search for any individual word in the book, even when you are looking right at that word. Yamaha has never released digital copies of the FSM, although their dealers may have them, but not for sale.
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Thanks for the guidance, gents. Let the search begin...
Available online, straight from Yamaha. $90...
https://www.yamahapubs.com/results.php?cat-id=3&year=1992&family=FJ1200&lang=en (https://www.yamahapubs.com/results.php?cat-id=3&year=1992&family=FJ1200&lang=en)
Thanks, CutterBill, but looks like they're not interested in shipping or billing to Canada.
Quote from: FJmonkey on September 12, 2019, 10:00:57 AM
Don't bother with anything other than a GYSM (Genuine Yamaha Service Manual). The others have errors and less information.
Some errors in the genuine manual too if memory serves correct (measurement specs). The OEM manual is the best but that FJ manual is very poor compared to Honda (especially), Suzuki and Kawasaki manuals of that era. The Yamaha manual doesn't even state main and con clearances, bore diameters or bearing thicknesses. It is better than the Cylmer or Haynes as those have all the years packed into one book (gets confusing) instead of a main book with additional model supplements.
eBay is your friend.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Yamaha-FJ1200AD-ADC-Supplementary-Service-Manual-FACTORY-OEM-BOOK-92/161148919857?epid=603343229&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2585396031:g:-rUAAOxyLN9SgmeR:sc:USPSPriorityFlatRateBox (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Yamaha-FJ1200AD-ADC-Supplementary-Service-Manual-FACTORY-OEM-BOOK-92/161148919857?epid=603343229&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2585396031:g:-rUAAOxyLN9SgmeR:sc:USPSPriorityFlatRateBox)
I have it on very good authority that the 1100 manual is supported in this manual as well.
Thanks, Robert, but a note at the bottom of the seller's ad says this manual "does NOT COVER FJ 1100 1200 (L-D). It is a SUPPLEMENTARY service manual FJ1200AD FJ1200ADC"
I thought it looked kinda skinny. :smile:
http://www.fj1100.com/fjman.htm (http://www.fj1100.com/fjman.htm)
Thanks for the link, Pat.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 17, 2019, 06:28:49 PM
http://www.fj1100.com/fjman.htm (http://www.fj1100.com/fjman.htm)
Hi, Pat! Are the manuals, that are for sale in this link, copies of the original Yamaha Full Service Manual? I was going to buy a Clymers manual out of habit, but if $15 bucks can get me the full service manual on a CD, I'd opt for that instead!
Hi Gabe, yes, that is my understanding, you get a full Genuine Yamaha Factory Service Manual on CD.
I think I ordered this CD over 20 years ago....To be honest I didn't use it much.
I'm a bit of a Luddite as I like books, rather than a computer screen and keyboard.
You would not believe the shit I get from my wife when I get grease on the keyboard....
Friggin end of the world....such drama....yea, I like books and manuals better.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 27, 2019, 11:29:29 PM
Hi Gabe, yes, that is my understanding, you get a full Genuine Yamaha Factory Service Manual on CD.
I think I ordered this CD over 20 years ago....To be honest I didn't use it much.
I'm a bit of a Luddite as I like books, rather than a computer screen and keyboard.
You would not believe the shit I get from my wife when I get grease on the keyboard....
Friggin end of the world....such drama....yea, I like books and manuals better.
Oh neat, I think I may use it as a temporary solution until I decide to cough up the money for a physical copy! I actually work in the Software industry, so it's very natural feeling to use a computer to read documents and things of that kind. However, I very much prefer to hold a physical book in my hand as well! Especially if its a manual that I'm try to read off of, because much like your wife, my girlfriend is always hollering at me if she sees me out in the garage with my computer out and a pair of mechanic gloves on, haha! That aside, thanks for the input! :good2:
I'm a book guy too. The old carpenter's thing about measure twice and cut once...I read twice before doing anything complicated. I put post-it tabs on all the frequently used pages to save thumbing through the index.
When I buy a used bike always ask the owner for any manuals he has...after all, whats he going to need them for?
Motofun,
Yep, exactly! I'm self taught over the past 3 years, and I always made sure to read and understand the fix/repair I'm attempting to make before I begin. I'll tell you what. I have accumulated a very large amount of specialty tools over the years from doin my own work, but man is it satisfying. Recently spent $30 bucks on an Engine Sprocket/Pulley Holder. Never thought I'd own one of those! I have a Clymer Manual for my 1980 KZ440, and it is bookmarked to hell. Helps me out though for quick references!
Riders,
I borrowed a trick from an old 'way-aftermarket VW workshop manual. Print out the pages you need from the manual for any job you will start, and put each a page into page-protectors. Keep them all in a three-ring binder, and soon you will have a chapter for each job you did, for present and future use. You can also include pages from other parts of the manual in each chapter, such as panel removals or torque specs, instead of flipping endlessly throughout the book for that stuff. You can put two pages into each page protector, back-to-back, so it reads just like a printed book. No greasy computers, no cross-references to other sections, and only what you need for the job.
Works for me. :yes:
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Quote from: RPM - Robert on September 14, 2019, 06:53:24 PM
eBay is your friend.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Yamaha-FJ1200AD-ADC-Supplementary-Service-Manual-FACTORY-OEM-BOOK-92/161148919857?epid=603343229&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2585396031:g:-rUAAOxyLN9SgmeR:sc:USPSPriorityFlatRateBox (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-Yamaha-FJ1200AD-ADC-Supplementary-Service-Manual-FACTORY-OEM-BOOK-92/161148919857?epid=603343229&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2585396031:g:-rUAAOxyLN9SgmeR:sc:USPSPriorityFlatRateBox)
I have it on very good authority that the 1100 manual is supported in this manual as well.
Picked up this manual for a spare and can confirm seller did not know what he was talking about. Like I thought it covers all years, 1100 through ABS. He simply didn't open it up and look.