First, I put in my two weeks this morning and those two weeks could never go quick enough.
So I've made a list of what I need to do:
1) Install Avon Spirit tires, balance, new nice 90 degree aluminum valve stems
2) Install new rotors and brake pads, front and rear
3) Check wheel and steering bearings
4) Install the lower Buell footpegs and adjust controls accordingly
5) Check and adjust valves, replace valve cover gasket
6) Replace spark plugs
7) Sync carbs (get to try the Morgan CarbTune)
8) Remember to decide on what gearing to go with - right now, it's the biggest stock FJ sprocket available, and it's a blast. But, with possible trips coming up - may want to drop it a bit....
9) I now there are a couple of other things, at least this list will help me remember these......
Bring on the weather!
Where did you get the Buell pegs from? I thought that they've been out of production for quite some time now.
Quote from: FJ1100mjk on April 10, 2018, 08:03:07 PM
Where did you get the Buell pegs from? I thought that they've been out of production for quite some time now.
I bought them from the local Harley dealer. They had to order them, but it only took a few days.
Also lots of options on eBay
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Shinobi-Black-Adjustable-Front-Footpegs-40mm-for-Buell-XB9R-Firebolt-03-04-07/191504881703?hash=item2c96949827:g:AawAAOSwfVhaBVzJ
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Billet-Adjustable-Riser-Foot-Pegs-Buell-XB12R-Firebolt-All-Year/350822367820?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Df7f261ee072747ff916baa80cc62775c%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D350822367820%26itm%3D350822367820&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Aa872bded-3e5e-11e8-b8e1-74dbd1807424%7Cparentrq%3Aba47ce6c1620a866b46d44affff80ff3%7Ciid%3A1
Quote from: fj1289 on April 12, 2018, 09:35:39 AM
Also lots of options on eBay
Good to know. Thanks.
Quote from: FJ1200W on April 10, 2018, 06:24:32 PM
8) Remember to decide on what gearing to go with - right now, it's the biggest stock FJ sprocket available, and it's a blast. But, with possible trips coming up - may want to drop it a bit....
18T front / 40T rear. Perfect IMHO.
Quote from: ZOA NOM on April 12, 2018, 11:06:18 AM
Quote from: FJ1200W on April 10, 2018, 06:24:32 PM
8) Remember to decide on what gearing to go with - right now, it's the biggest stock FJ sprocket available, and it's a blast. But, with possible trips coming up - may want to drop it a bit....
18T front / 40T rear. Perfect IMHO.
Yep, I agree with Rick...18/40 is perfect
I went back to the 40 rear from a 42, 17 front, may try the 18 sometime.
Mounted tires with 90 degree valve stems today, they balanced out nicely, needing 1oz or less.
New rotors, bolts and HH pads installed as well.
Took longer than expected - my battery hand tool died so everything was manual, just like the good ole' days.....
Pic's
(https://media.fotki.com/2v2JYogLvxANksL.jpg)
(https://media.fotki.com/2v2JYoggUxANksL.jpg)
(https://media.fotki.com/2v2JYogW9xANksL.jpg)
(https://media.fotki.com/2v2JYogGuxANksL.jpg)
I really wanted "round" discs with holes....... Maybe someday!
That is a beautiful FJ Steve, you should be proud :good2:
Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 14, 2018, 04:26:18 PM
That is a beautiful FJ Steve, you should be proud :good2:
Thank you, it's a great motorcycle (the FJ series), for sure.
Footpegs:
(https://media.fotki.com/2v2Jk4GCMxANksL.jpg)
(https://media.fotki.com/2v2Jk4ncuxANksL.jpg)
Valves adjusted
(https://media.fotki.com/2v2Jk4n2MxANksL.jpg)
(https://media.fotki.com/2v2JkmotoxANksL.png)
Anyone truly know the "ideal" spec?
Carbs synch'ed
(https://media.fotki.com/2v2Jk4nHuxANksL.jpg)
And a special treat today -
(https://media.fotki.com/2v2JkGm5vxANksL.jpg)
Just a touch -
(https://media.fotki.com/2v2JkGSMvxANksL.jpg)
http://turboblue.com/ (http://turboblue.com/)
$6.35 a gallon for 110 is a steal. I pay double that for VP fuel.
I wish I had a pump like that where I live.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 13, 2018, 09:29:25 PM
$6.35 a gallon for 110 is a steal. I pay double that for VP fuel.
I wish I had a pump like that where I live.
It's also great fuel to use (with oil) for those 2 stroke yard tools - blowers, trimmers and the like.
I've been paying $20/gallon for the pre-mixed RTU stuff, this will save me some money and the yard tools will perform better/last longer.
Be careful with those Kerker cans. I lost one on my '92, the aluminum fatigue cracked and broke off right after the clamp. Luckily I was by myself with no other riders behind me.
A poor design with the weight of the can cantalevered like that.
Riding down a desert road, listening to my music, life is good...when all of a sudden GGGRRRAAAWWW.
I thought a helicopter was hovering above me....
Keep an eye on them.
Nice work! Carb sych looks great, and my opinion, which means nothing as its your bike is the cans are *ever * so slighty long. To me just upsets the balanced look which again is purely personal preferance. But overall, she looks A1
Quote from: X-Ray on May 14, 2018, 05:15:49 AM
Nice work! Carb sych looks great, and my opinion, which means nothing as its your bike is the cans are *ever * so slighty long. To me just upsets the balanced look which again is purely personal preferance. But overall, she looks A1
The slip-ons are period correct, yes, it is official, we can say "times were different" and it's OK.
Sooner or later I'll stumble across an affordable alternative that offers some potential performance increase.
Until them, I'm diggin' the retro-ness of the muffs.......
Appreciate the feedback!
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 13, 2018, 10:34:15 PM
Be careful with those Kerker cans. I lost one on my '92, the aluminum fatigue cracked and broke off right after the clamp. Luckily I was by myself with no other riders behind me.
A poor design with the weight of the can cantalevered like that.
Riding down a desert road, listening to my music, life is good...when all of a sudden GGGRRRAAAWWW.
I thought a helicopter was hovering above me....
Keep an eye on them.
Thanks for the heads up - so far, no problems.
I forgot how long I've owned the bike, but you know, I think it's calling me.......
Thanks Pat!
Quote from: FJ1200W on May 15, 2018, 03:08:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 13, 2018, 10:34:15 PM
Be careful with those Kerker cans. I lost one on my '92, the aluminum fatigue cracked and broke off right after the clamp. Luckily I was by myself with no other riders behind me.
A poor design with the weight of the can cantalevered like that.
Riding down a desert road, listening to my music, life is good...when all of a sudden GGGRRRAAAWWW.
I thought a helicopter was hovering above me....
Keep an eye on them.
Thanks for the heads up - so far, no problems.
I forgot how long I've owned the bike, but you know, I think it's calling me.......
Thanks Pat!
I also lost my original Kerker Muffler Can this exact same way.
It still resides somewhere down in the Black Canyon on Hwy-92................It cracked and snapped off just aft of the clamp..
Very poor design for hanger placement.
The Buell footpegs are becoming a modification I wish I never made.
I can not get the brake pedal adjusted to a comfortable position, but I could live with that.
The shift lever, it is also becoming a total pain in my arse to get adjusted to a comfortable position -
And then there is the kickstand, might as well remove it!
Errrrrrrrrrrrrr
Or should it me ohmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I put some R6 pegs on mine and was able to adjust the brake pedal and shifter to work perfectly. I bought the pegs from a member( old age is creeping up cant remember his name) They made a big difference and dropped down about 3/4 of an inch. Really helped with the knees.
Quote from: big r on May 19, 2018, 09:23:30 AM
I put some R6 pegs on mine and was able to adjust the brake pedal and shifter to work perfectly. I bought the pegs from a member( old age is creeping up cant remember his name) They made a big difference and dropped down about 3/4 of an inch. Really helped with the knees.
I can relate with the old age comment -
And that the lower pegs make the ride a lot easier on the knees.
I'm going to try and adjust the items again, they're close.
And the kickstand, I might epoxy a small washer in the stop.
Thanks and have a great weekend
Here are a few photos of the Buell pegs on my FJ. Zero mods were done on the gear shift side. A bit of material removal was done on No the the foot peg and the rear brake lever for clearance and cowling issues.
Fred
Brake pedal side
I had no problem with my Buell foot pegs. I have no center stand. I did have to press in some nylon bushings to reduce the diameter of the holes in the Buell pegs (look close) so to fit the bolts thru the FJ mounts. I also upgraded the rubber bushings on the mounts to the superior '91-93 rubber mounts. No vibes!
Best mod I've ever made for my 65 year old knees
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/8/49_15_03_15_1_50_01.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/8/49_15_03_15_1_49_14.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/8/49_15_03_15_1_48_16.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/8/49_15_03_15_1_45_52.jpeg)
Quote from: FJ1200W on May 19, 2018, 08:53:07 AM
The Buell footpegs are becoming a modification I wish I never made.
I can not get the brake pedal adjusted to a comfortable position, but I could live with that.
The shift lever, it is also becoming a total pain in my arse to get adjusted to a comfortable position -
And then there is the kickstand, might as well remove it!
Errrrrrrrrrrrrr
Or should it me ohmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Although I do not have lowered foot pegs - (maybe later when I reach those older fellow's age!) - there are actually two adjustments possible; the first being moving the brake pedal & gear shift levers on the shaft's spline and then fine tune the lever position with the linkage itself.
Hopefully that will enable moving the levers to a convenient position.
Good luck!
Quote from: Mike Ramos on May 19, 2018, 11:27:24 PM
Although I do not have lowered foot pegs - (maybe later when I reach those older fellow's age!)
Uh, Mike, aren't your legs already kind of straight when sitting on your FJ....?
The problem might be in my size 12+ foot.
I've re-adjusted the pedals, and it's better - but it seems I lost some distance between the footpeg and the end of the shift lever.
Anyone find a longer shift lever that fits? :D
Those are all non-issues at the moment. I proudly took my wife for a nice 80 mile ride yesterday, to show her how well I had the bike running.
A few miles from home, it developed a miss at low speeds, random. And I thought I smelled gas -
This morning, when I went into the detached garage, the bike puked most of its fuel - Glad I did not leave the air compressor on as the fuel puddled under it, would of made a loud bang when it kicked on, I'm sure......
Be sure to check your oil. Mine filled the crankcase with gas. Twice. Then put a manual petcock on it.
Quote from: giantkiller on May 21, 2018, 03:17:14 PM
Be sure to check your oil. Mine filled the crankcase with gas. Twice. Then put a manual petcock on it.
There was some but not a lot - hopefully the Amsoil can handle it, just changed the oil......
Pulled the carbs, the FJ is a great motorcycle to work on, so easy.
The only thing I found was one crimped fuel bowl overflow hose. I replaced them all with silicone hose, now I'm wondering about their ability to resist fuel......
Also found the fuel line from the pump to the carbs to be deteriorating, replaced it as well.
Test ride went fine, bike ran great, time will tell......
I'm thinking the couple of gallons of 110 octane "Turbo Blue" fuel did me no favors. I avoid alcohol tainted fuels, not sure what the race fuel may of had in it, it said it was alcohol free but it did contain lead, which should not of done anything to the seals......
Anyway, let me say it again, what a fantastic bike to work on!
Quote from: giantkiller on May 21, 2018, 03:17:14 PM
Be sure to check your oil. Mine filled the crankcase with gas. Twice. Then put a manual petcock on it.
A while back I posted about a fuel shut off solenoid. I've never had a problem with fuel in the sump but with some of the places I go it's not worth the risk. Also, I am still running my original fuel pump at 200,000km it can't be far off failing.
Under $30 and a quick fit. It has a manual override in the event of failure and the default position is closed.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/968/42266309051_3d1d56b16b_c.jpg)
I made a bracket and rubber mounted it(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/974/42266308071_809014dbe5_c.jpg)
It can be mounted pretty much anywhereYou could even do away with the manual petcock on gravity models with this.
Noel
Going to schedule some bench time for the FJ -
Low RPM miss, it's abrupt, I'm thinking ignition (coil).
It clears out when opened up, almost carb like, but I'm leaning towards the later.
Check for a cracked spark plug
Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on July 29, 2018, 11:43:17 AM
Check for a cracked spark plug
Good call and plugs are cheap
As soon as I can make some time.....
I pulled the plugs and here is what I found -
(https://images40.fotki.com/v1668/photos/4/3846444/14459534/August2018X-vi.jpg)
Looks like I have an issue.
Hopefully something carburetor related.
Ideas? Anyone feeling motopsychic?
:good:
Maybe, maybe not...
Now that your valves are adjusted, put some fresh plugs in then warm up the engine and do a compression test. (Throttle open) Let us know your #'s
Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 12, 2018, 11:54:20 AM
Maybe, maybe not...
Now that your valves are adjusted, put some fresh plugs in then warm up the engine and do a compression test. (Throttle open) Let us know your #'s
Will do very very soon!
Had a guy come into the shop today, I was busy, they interrupted me, they said he had a couple FJ seats, whatever.
I went up, yes, he has two seats, Corbins, one a gunfighter, the other hads a backrest or something like that.
Sure, how - wait, there's more?
Oh, and there is a FJ1100 that goes with them. "It's been parked outside awhile, but it dyno'ed at 120HP back in the day. It has a head, it's faded, dent in the tank, tires need air, clear title"
I'll pick it up Sunday and post pictures - might be exactly what is needed to finish the salt bike I've been sitting on......
Quote from: ribbert on May 21, 2018, 10:49:26 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on May 21, 2018, 03:17:14 PM
Be sure to check your oil. Mine filled the crankcase with gas. Twice. Then put a manual petcock on it.
A while back I posted about a fuel shut off solenoid. I've never had a problem with fuel in the sump but with some of the places I go it's not worth the risk. Also, I am still running my original fuel pump at 200,000km it can't be far off failing.
Under $30 and a quick fit. It has a manual override in the event of failure and the default position is closed.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/968/42266309051_3d1d56b16b_c.jpg)
I made a bracket and rubber mounted it
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/974/42266308071_809014dbe5_c.jpg)
It can be mounted pretty much anywhere
You could even do away with the manual petcock on gravity models with this.
Noel
Thanks Noel. When I get back to working on my bikes. I'll have to get some of these.
Quote from: ribbert on May 21, 2018, 10:49:26 PM
You could even do away with the manual petcock on gravity models with this.
Not so sure that electric petcock will flow enough fuel for the gravity fed FJ's. Fuel pumpers, sure, no worries, but the oem petcock outlet and fuel line diameter on the gravity flow bikes is considerably larger. Must be a reason.
10mm tube vs. 6mm tube. Must be a big difference in gravity flow between the two, almost half the size.
Yea, at a quick glance, it looks like a 6mm fuel line would be over half (60%) the size of a 10mm line, but it's actually much less in regards to flow.
Funny thing about the area of circles, it goes up by the square root of the radius.
10mm ID = 78.5 sq/mm
6mm ID = 28.2 sq/mm
The 6mm line is only 35% the area of a 10mm line.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on November 18, 2018, 01:14:34 AM
Yea, at a quick glance, it looks like a 6mm fuel line would be over half (60%) the size of a 10mm line, but it's actually much less in regards to flow.
Funny thing about the area of circles, it goes up by the square root of the radius.
10mm ID = 78.5 sq/mm
6mm ID = 28.2 sq/mm
The 6mm line is only 35% the area of a 10mm line.
...or you could buy the 10mm version! :biggrin:
Noel
Quote from: Pat Conlon on November 18, 2018, 01:14:34 AM
Yea, at a quick glance, it looks like a 6mm fuel line would be over half (60%) the size of a 10mm line, but it's actually much less in regards to flow.
Funny thing about the area of circles, it goes up by the square root of the radius.
10mm ID = 78.5 sq/mm
6mm ID = 28.2 sq/mm
The 6mm line is only 35% the area of a 10mm line.
Math check Pat... Area of circle = (3.1416) x Radius
2...
Frank
Quote from: ribbert on November 18, 2018, 07:09:12 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on November 18, 2018, 01:14:34 AM
Yea, at a quick glance, it looks like a 6mm fuel line would be over half (60%) the size of a 10mm line, but it's actually much less in regards to flow.
Funny thing about the area of circles, it goes up by the square root of the radius.
10mm ID = 78.5 sq/mm
6mm ID = 28.2 sq/mm
The 6mm line is only 35% the area of a 10mm line.
...or you could buy the 10mm version! :biggrin:
Noel
Hey Noel do you have a link to buy these.
Quote from: Flynt on November 18, 2018, 08:47:27 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on November 18, 2018, 01:14:34 AM
Yea, at a quick glance, it looks like a 6mm fuel line would be over half (60%) the size of a 10mm line, but it's actually much less in regards to flow.
Funny thing about the area of circles, it goes up by the square root of the radius.
10mm ID = 78.5 sq/mm
6mm ID = 28.2 sq/mm
The 6mm line is only 35% the area of a 10mm line.
Math check Pat... Area of circle = (3.1416) x Radius2...
Oops, correctamundo....should read "the square of the radius.." Not the square root.. My bad.
Note to self: Avoid posting posting after midnight.
I went and looked at the FJ1100 and it's been a long time since I've walked away from a complete bike.
It's not been ridden since 1997ish.
Parked outside for the last 5 years or so, mostly uncovered.
The shift linkage was rusted bad enough that it would not go into neutral, much less shift into anything.
It's a shame, a crying shame - on the bright side, it had a nice set of F1R canisters on it, it has that going for it, and the fairing is complete, and it has a clear title -
The front brakes were also rusted to the rotors - key's lost, tank half full and who knows how horrible it and the carbs are -
$500 was his price, I asked him how much he would take for it, he never gave me another price but wanted an offer -
Call me an odd duck, shoot me a price and I'll either buy it or walk.
Today, I walked......
I did say I would sleep on it.......
Pic's - thoughts???
These pictures make it look a lot better than it really is.......
More pic's - those can's sure look good.....
While it is complete as you say, she will need a lot of loving to bring her back.....that being said mine was in simliar or worse condtion when I got her.
Mark
Unless it's free...
RUN AWAY...JUST RUN
Randy - RPM
If the plastic wasn't all faded. I'd offer him $150. I paid $600 for mine. 10800 miles. Stored in heated garage for 12 plus years. And it came with a crashed 87 that only had 865 miles on it. Still had to replace anything that to do with brake fluid. Gas tank was full when he parked it was half full of a mess. when I got it.
Quote from: giantkiller on November 18, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
Hey Noel do you have a link to buy these.
Unfortunately I don't, but if you enter "12v fuel solenoid" into eBay it will come up with quite a few choices.
Noel
I'm in the nope boat. Everything looks like it needs TLC. Parts only. 50 bucks for a clear title, minus any DMV back fees. He's going to owe you money.
Andy
Quote from: ribbert on November 19, 2018, 07:12:48 AM
Quote from: giantkiller on November 18, 2018, 10:13:25 AM
Hey Noel do you have a link to buy these.
Unfortunately I don't, but if you enter "12v fuel solenoid" into eBay it will come up with quite a few choices.
Noel
Thanks Noel
I ran but it followed me.....
The salvage yard offered him $25.00 and I could not see that happening.
He brought it to where I work, I was able to unload it with a forklift.
It causes me heart ache to see a FJ in that condition of neglect.
I know it happens all the time but it still bugs me. I know it's silly and sentimental. It's just a machine.
Good for you Steve. :good2: May the FJ gods smile on your project. You saved her.
Let us know how we can help.
Pat
Sure it's rusty and whatnot but the plastic pieces look like they are undamaged. That's impressive.
Pat, I feel the same way when I view some neglected vehicle. It's a disease and I've had to stop myself recently.
Steve, I hope you post follow up info and pics.
Joe
I feel the same with all of the poor neglected beasts. I really hate seeing a perfectly good bike or car parted out just becase "I can get more for it in parts" mentality. We are a bit like vultures when this happens though.
Just my 2 cents
Mark
Quote from: Urban_Legend on November 20, 2018, 10:35:06 PM
I feel the same with all of the poor neglected beasts. I really hate seeing a perfectly good bike or car parted out just becase "I can get more for it in parts" mentality. We are a bit like vultures when this happens though.
Just my 2 cents
Mark
I used to think like that but I've come round to thinking this way - that one bike may get another half a dozen bikes back on the road.
Staging area - homeward bound soon
It's rough
Brought it home today.
Stopped off at the car wash on the way.
Popped the tank off this evening. One of the bolts broke. Good to get that out of the way.
Side covers came off without damage thanks to the use of patience and a body tool.
Yeesh, you've got a lot of cleaning on your plate. I like how you got the breaking a bolt out of the way, right away. Funny. I like stories like this, hope it has a happy ending.
Joe
Good for you Steve! :good: You saved her!
She will take a lot of work and patience on your part to repair the years of neglect.
Kudos! I love to see this happening. Let us know how we can help.
Wot Pat said! :good2: :good2:
But, it's an FJ. It will return your love for many years.
A mate got my project bike running (just) and it is in a much sorrier state. Mind you, it lived in a desert for most of its life, then by the beach for a few years. I think living in a snowy winter for a few years might be a bit more harsh.
To borrow a term from real estate, it has good bones.
Thank you all for the encouraging words.
I'm going to take the title in Monday. The VIN is incorrect on the title, missing one 0 - someone made a little error back in 1993.....
No problem at the DMV - Title is on the way
:D
Quote from: FJ1200W on December 10, 2018, 03:28:18 PM
No problem at the DMV - Title is on the way
:D
NFW. That's impossible...
Quote from: FJ1200W on December 10, 2018, 03:28:18 PM
No problem at the DMV - Title is on the way
:D
I call BS :wacko1: no one has even had no problems at the DMV. Its in the job description to work there to cause issues haha. Congrats, and good luck on the project!
Missouri is different than the rest of the country the DMV and police are actually polite and helpful.
Picked this up today - a Ventura Rack system.
Had not had time to do much research, appears well made.
Had the solo seat reupholstered, picked it up this morning.
I plan on putting it on my 1989 FJ1200 - I never did check to make sure the 11 and 12 interchange......
I'm more than pleased with the aesthetics, it's what I wanted, to each their own.
I'll wait for the weather to get closer to 50 before I pull the bike out, it's buried.....
Quote from: FJ1200W on December 28, 2018, 06:30:38 PM
.....I'll wait for the weather to get closer to 50 before I pull the bike out, it's buried.....
Is she outside?
No problems with the seats interchanging.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 28, 2018, 07:11:26 PM
Quote from: FJ1200W on December 28, 2018, 06:30:38 PM
.....I'll wait for the weather to get closer to 50 before I pull the bike out, it's buried.....
Is she outside?
No problems with the seats interchanging.
Oh no no no, it's just everything else is inside the garage and it's packed.
Glad to hear no issue with the seat fitting.
Whew!
Thank you
1st ride of the year today. Fit the alternate seat, did not try it out yet, see no reason to not like it.
It was a good day to ride
You likey the new seat?
Joe
I have the Corbin gunfighter seat on my bike.last week I left the seat out in the snow so it was wet,so took the stock seat of the new fj I just bought.Its the first time I've ridden with stock seat.l love how it feels And the ability to the move around.the seat feels like it weighs about three pounds,the Corbin seat is fairly heavy.
Quote from: Tuned forks on January 07, 2019, 07:06:41 PM
You likey the new seat?
Joe
I think I can say YES!!!
:yahoo:
Pre-owned Yoshimura full system arrived.
The flanges were bent due to over tightening and have been bent back straight - The plan is to use spacers on the studs to keep them from bending in again.
Also performed some clean up in the merge collector - It is hard for me to say it's not the quality I expected. The merge seemed "sloppy" and mass produced.
Once merge cleanup is complete, it's off to Jet-Hot for internal and external coating. Est $225 plus shipping.
The clamp shown did not make it, one will be ordered, they're inexpensive.
I'll try and remove the quiet core as I'm not into quiet for this one. While removing the core, the packing will be inspected and replaced if needed.
Nice, allen head bolts in the canister rather than rivets.
Hopefully they'll come out without much drama.....
Final prep of the collector completed
Canister tip came off without much drama. Use of a proper allen head and breaker bar helped.
One allen head stripped and the extractors failed as well, they stripped it even more. So, I went old school. Located my old lucky drift and tap tap tapped away.
I am very impressed with the baffle, it's very nice. I need to debate of if I think it truly will flow enough or if mods are in order......
Steve,
Do you have the horsepower and torque improvement numbers for that system over stock?
Randy - RPM
Quote from: racerrad8 on March 10, 2019, 06:50:01 PM
Steve,
Do you have the horsepower and torque improvement numbers for that system over stock?
Randy - RPM
I could not find any specs on the system at all, it's like it never existed.
Probably going to need your help.
I have a 1314 motor I could use, with a nicely ported head, megacycle stage one cams and either the stock carbs (?) or I have a set of RS38's that I would need to re-convert from methanol. I will need to split the cases and put the starter back in. So I'll be needing gaskets/seals.
Regarding the carbs, would the RS38's be that dramatic of an improvement? If so, I need to find the old parts that were removed when the methanol conversion was done or buy them. Also, rebuilt them. I know the basic rebuild kit will run about $225? It appears when the methanol kit is installed in the 34 or 36 the slide is drilled, but not in the 38, or so I hope.
I believe the head also has oversize valves, I'll want to refresh it.
I have two 84 fj1100's both have four into one exhaust and pod filters.I assume both are stock internally but I've never had the top end apart on either of them.One of them has stock carburetors off an 86 fj1200,and the other has Mikuni RS-36 carburetors.There is no comparison between the two bikes .The one with the flat slides is much faster,it is quicker at low and high rpms.It keeps pulling harder and harder all the way through 9,500 rpms.The bike with the stock carbs is smooth and still has very good power but its no match for the one with the flatslides.This summer I am going to swap the flatslides over to the other bike just to see what effect it has on that bike. The flatslides are very easy to tune except it is difficult if not impossible to adjust the idle air while the carbs are mounted,I've had to adjust the ones on the end the best I can then pull the carbs and adjust the inside air screws to match the outside ones i adjusted.It's not perfect but the bike runs great with them starts easliy in cold weather and is smooth throughout the rpm range. The motion pro throttle cables are much cheaper than the stock fj throttle cable set up.
Great info, thanks!
I'm assuming mine are 38's based on the number code on the side - anyone confirm?
T38
D19A
The easier way to verify is to measure the bore at the intake manifold size which is the carb size.
Those are 38 mm carbs however the D-19A indicates those carbs have spacing set up for a suzuki gsxr 1100 or kawasaki KZ1100.the carbs with the correct spacing would be rs-38 D35-A or D35-K.Mikuni has a tuning guide with applications that you can download on line.
Quote from: T Legg on March 11, 2019, 12:26:06 PM
Those are 38 mm carbs however the D-19A indicates those carbs have spacing set up for a suzuki gsxr 1100 or kawasaki KZ1100.the carbs with the correct spacing would be rs-38 D35-A or D35-K.Mikuni has a tuning guide with applications that you can download on line.
They were installed on a FJ1100, strange.....
I'll have to go measure to be sure.... Thanks for the heads up
QuoteIf the center spacing between the centers of your carbs #2 and 3 is 85mm, rather than the as supplied 93mm, two of the outside carbs will need to be unbolted and then slid in so as to align with the second set of provided securing points and then re-fixed. Due to limited demand for these carbs to suit 86-87 Yamaha FJ 1100 and 1200 engines along with some other applications with the 85mm centre measurement the factory no longer markets them assembled in this configuration thus requiring you the end user to make the adjustment and then re-synchronize the slides.
Yes Randy I would rather have a system with a collector like this.
For a few hundred bucks, I'm OK with the old school Yoshi system.
Tony Nicosia sent me a message reminding me about his collectors from the 1970's and 80's.
He was ahead of this time IMO, and to this day, a very nice man who freely shares his knowledge.
The header is on the way to JetHot.
It should be back in a couple of weeks.
I know it's not the best or the latest/greatest, but for the money, I'm pleased.
Broke the FJ12 out today, what a great machine.
Changes to this one will be limited, maybe EBC rotors as I prefer the "round" over the "pedal" or "wave" type.
And I might try and graft on the Cobra F3 slip ons from the FJ1100 parts bike.
This picture was taken on 03/18/2019 in Rocheport, MO. A small river (Missouri River) town, and that is usually the old ball field. The shelter shown in the aerial picture would be to the immediate left of bike. The Missouri River is in the bottom of the picture.
The river, it cometh.....
JetHot just called the header is finished and is on its way back -
Yahoo!
:D
Confirmed carb spacing is correct.
Look like thirtyeights
Nice match to the intake which is matched to the head.....
Heading to the garage to find the totes of FJ parts and to do some organizing of it all......
Wish me luck!
UPS came through today - JetHot OffRoad coated Yoshimura header is back home
QuoteWith superior thermal management and corrosion resistance properties that lower surrounding temperatures by up to 65%, protect from thermal oxidation, galvanic corrosion and the ability to withstand 2000°F surface temperatures, there is no question as to why Jet-Hot Off-road remains the industry leader in exhaust coatings
A few of the totes will come in useful. Found the NOS wiring harness which will not be used now. And a ton of other stuff that will.
The biggest find was the starter and starter drive components - Whew.
Also, some of the other "carp"
Found the cold air intake the PO was developing -
Check to see if these are rebuildable or not.....
Magnacharger type 80 I think
I am seriously considering swapping the FJ11 head on to my FJ12 while I work on the other bike.
I did not see where RPM offered something along the lines of the Cometic upper end gasket kit - Did I miss it?
It's that FJ1100 head that's had some work done to it, with different cams, and would also want opinions on valve springs (replace? they are aftermarket) and carb jetting (Megacycle stage 1 cam and Yoshi 4-1 header).
It sure runs well as it is, no complaints.
We do not use cometic gaskets on the head or the base gasket unless it is a big bore build above 1250 and even then we still use the Yamaha base gasket.
Head gasket (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Head%3A1TX-11181-10)
Base gasket (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=5EA-11351-00)
We use these Performance Valve Spring Set (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Head%3AValveSpringsHP)
and we only use Webb cams now. The last 3 or sets of megacycle cams the weld and grind was junk and started to become pitted after a few thousand miles. Shoot me a PM, email, or give us a ring if you want cams. We are still a Megacycle dealer and a Webb cam dealer.
Quote from: RPM - Robert on April 03, 2019, 10:42:42 AM
We do not use cometic gaskets on the head or the base gasket unless it is a big bore build above 1250 and even then we still use the Yamaha base gasket.
Head gasket (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Head%3A1TX-11181-10)
Base gasket (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=5EA-11351-00)
We use these Performance Valve Spring Set (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Head%3AValveSpringsHP)
and we only use Webb cams now. The last 3 or sets of megacycle cams the weld and grind was junk and started to become pitted after a few thousand miles. Shoot me a PM, email, or give us a ring if you want cams. We are still a Megacycle dealer and a Webb cam dealer.
Hopefully these cams are good, they were made in the 1980's, not new ones.
Crap.......
Should be fine especially if it has been running with them and no problems yet. We hadn't had problems with the Megacycle until the last few years.
I misread and thought you were gonna have Megacycle ones welded.
Quote from: RPM - Robert on April 03, 2019, 01:51:37 PM
Should be fine especially if it has been running with them and no problems yet. We hadn't had problems with the Megacycle until the last few years.
I misread and thought you were gonna have Megacycle ones welded.
Thanks for your help today, much appreciated.
Had a nice ride to work today, great motorcycles.
I look forward to what's coming, thanks again.
1st care package arrived...
Final care package for this phase - now to plan the job.
Quote from: FJ1200W on April 14, 2019, 01:47:27 PM
Final care package for this phase - now to plan the job.
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Are you planning on using the dual pod filters with the rs-38 carbs?I have to use unipod filters with my flatslide because the fuel lines run between carb one and two down to the tee that splits to the dual feed fuel lines.
I'm using them with the stock carbs and jetting supplied by Robert.
Budgetary reasons, flats slide are still on the shelf..... Safe and sound
I have some questions on the cam sprocket marks, slotted sprockets, differnt placement than shown in the service manual.
Once I am off this POS Kindle and back on a pc I'll post my questions.
Thx!
The manual seems to state the timing marks on the camshaft sprockets should be "outboard" yet I seem to have one "inboard" -
Being aftermarket slotted sprockets, maybe this is correct or is the exhaust cam 180 out? The upper alignment holes on the camshafts are on top - ???
I now have plenty of practice with the cam chain adjuster. The spring feels plenty tight. Plenty tight.
Those are not aftermarket gears. They appear to be stock gears someone modified to slot. And, yes, it looks like the exhaust side is 180 out.
Also, if you are running the stock coils and ends you need to remove those park plug tips so the smaller threaded tip is showing. The stock ends do not lock onto the tip that is currently on their properly.
Quote from: RPM - Robert on April 16, 2019, 10:16:41 AM
Those are not aftermarket gears. They appear to be stock gears someone modified to slot. And, yes, it looks like the exhaust side is 180 out.
Also, if you are running the stock coils and ends you need to remove those park plug tips so the smaller threaded tip is showing. The stock ends do not lock onto the tip that is currently on their properly.
I thought something looked odd -
What is strange to me is the ID holes that needed to point "up" when the cams are installed are "up" - Maybe that is just for installation?
Can the gears be installed 180 off?
The original owner was in the middle of modifying the bike for a turbo, it was in the middle of a lot when he passed away, who knows.....
Do you suggest I buy new sprockets or are those going to be OK?
Oh - He was running Accel coils and wires, that why the plugs have the tips on them.
The gear can be installed 180 out.
Before they were making slotted cam gears. We would see alot of the stock cam gears people would slot, mostly on race car applications. They had a tendency to slip for whatever reason and go out of time. Could have been they didn't clean the burrs up from grinding them out or holes were too large or whatever the case was they would slip.
Yes, the Accel and the Dyna coils need the spark plug ends like you have. Stock need to be removed.
When at TDC both cam holes should be in the window on the cam cap. and the gears should be in line with the case facing outwards on both gears.
Quote from: RPM - Robert on April 16, 2019, 12:02:33 PM
The gear can be installed 180 out.
Before they were making slotted cam gears. We would see alot of the stock cam gears people would slot, mostly on race car applications. They had a tendency to slip for whatever reason and go out of time. Could have been they didn't clean the burrs up from grinding them out or holes were too large or whatever the case was they would slip.
Yes, the Accel and the Dyna coils need the spark plug ends like you have. Stock need to be removed.
When at TDC both cam holes should be in the window on the cam cap. and the gears should be in line with the case facing outwards on both gears.
Thank you - The cam holes are both in the window (or super close) so I'm assuming the sprocket is 180 off.
Hopefully I have more time to work on it sooner rather than later
Much appreciated!
Steve
I'm going to go get a baseline dyno run in this afternoon, then the fun can begin.
Stockish, I'm think 90-95HP?
I'll post the graphs
I'm happy with the baseline - So far so good!
https://www.facebook.com/CameronJonesRacing11/videos/472282583512052/ (https://www.facebook.com/CameronJonesRacing11/videos/472282583512052/)
Looking at the bottom line indicating tire speed prompts a question: Did you do this pull in 5th gear?
I asked because I thought 4th gear was preferable.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 26, 2019, 08:38:07 PM
Looking at the bottom line indicating tire speed prompts a question: Did you do this pull in 5th gear?
I asked because I thought 4th gear was preferable.
We did both, pretty much same results. You know I picked the highest one to post, of course. :D
He has a new dyno coming in 2 weeks. The ignition pickup would not work on my wires.
I forgot I had huge wires with heat wrap type sleeve covering that do an outstanding job....
Fun stuff, looking forward to seeing what the mods do.....
I wish I had a baseline with the stock collector box, but it is what it is......
I've had a minor setback and have not been able to do anything to the FJ.
It sat for 4 weeks, and I went out yesterday, turned the key, pulled the choke and -
It fired up immediately!
Took a short but enjoyable ride. I did run it up through the gears, 140 indicated which is probably closer to 125 in reality, but hey, nothing wrong with optimism!
Sure love that bike.......
I've not been able to do anything with the FJ for a variety of reasons (health issues, phuck cancer) but noticed something at the dealership I work at and wondered, would that work on the FJ?
It did!
Kawasaki part number 11012-1590 is a "Rear Axle Nut Cap" used on the wickedly cool Z900RS (and the Cafe version) as well as a few other models.
Retails at well under $5.00 and it slipped right on - we'll see if it stays in place....
Looks great IMHO
On a side note, I'm going to look at another FJ this weekend. Carbs off, apart but complete. It has a 4-1 head in good shape. Supposed to have a NOS tank in a box. I'll believe it when I see it.....
It's cheap - but it's rough.
The exhaust has me interested - if the lower pipes are not damaged.....
Looking forward to any/all comments on this one
Yah I like the two Bros racing pipe :sarcastic:
Just a quick thought.... if that's supposed to be an NOS tank, why does it look like it's been repainted?
... aaannnnd what kind of front fender is that, and why is it on backwards? :wacko3: Inquiring minds need to know!
Will this be a resto project or just for parts? Just getting the paint job back to a semblance of "normality" will be a task in itself. :sarcastic:
Good luck with it. Hope you keep posting any progress .
Quote from: PaulG on August 02, 2019, 11:01:52 PM
Just a quick thought.... if that's supposed to be an NOS tank, why does it look like it's been repainted?
... aaannnnd what kind of front fender is that, and why is it on backwards? :wacko3: Inquiring minds need to know!
Will this be a resto project or just for parts? Just getting the paint job back to a semblance of "normality" will be a task in itself. :sarcastic:
Good luck with it. Hope you keep posting any progress .
The tank, one thing I learned a long time ago, when someone tells me they have anything new, I now consider that to mean "new to them" and not actually "NOS". I'm getting old and tired of the games - games being a nice term for ignorance....
The fender, I think it came from some old episode of "Mad Max"
The only thing I see of any value to me may be the exhaust. Other than that, the whole thing may end up on the curb.
Literally.
I would be wiling to bet the 2nd gear shift fork is bent - might be fun to take apart, but I'm not really in any position to be making any more of a mess than I already have....
I do feel this may be one of the fugliest FJ's I've ever seen.......
Quote from: giantkiller on August 02, 2019, 02:05:51 PM
Yah I like the two Bros racing pipe :sarcastic:
Looks like there are more than a few projects out there at the guys place.....
Picked a few parts. Grabbed the cams. I want to measure the lift for comparison to the FJ1200. Also the tank.
Quote from: FJ1200W on August 09, 2019, 06:27:14 PM
Picked a few parts. Grabbed the cams. I want to measure the lift for comparison to the FJ1200. Also the tank.
What brand is the 4-1 exhaust?
Fred
It's a Vance and Hines system Fred. :good2:
Thanks Millietant - that's what it is, Vance and Hines.
I'm getting a quote on repairs and ceramic coat. Not going to be cheap as they have to remove the chrome.
Heck, a little hydrochloric acid would take care of that.....
The collector is crude by modern standards, it may need some TLC as well.
Quote from: FJ1200W on August 10, 2019, 04:39:03 PM
Thanks Millietant - that's what it is, Vance and Hines.
I'm getting a quote on repairs and ceramic coat......
$350ish for JetHot ceramic coating the full system, with shipping back. They don't do pipe repair. May have to try the old compressed air and a torch trick....
Good morning
Met a friend for a ride, he has a new Africa Twin he's modified like mad and he is heading for the TAT, sounds like a good time.
When we were leaving for todays ride, my bike failed to start. Turn key off - clock came on.
Turn key on, nothing - but once and a while, everything came on - but when I hit the old start button, everything died.
Having the electrical issue before a ride, the bike has been flawless, what a pain in the wazoo.
Tested the battery, it tested bad - found a replacement and oh my my, the bike has never run better!
It's a good day to ride
Yea, see....notice that battery failure did not happen in BFE.....FJ gods smiling.
Years ago (before my Transpo VR mod) I was in Flagstaff with a group of riders, we stopped for gas and a late breakfast, my FJ battery died, No spark, no headlight, no nothing......just by chance there was an auto parts store next door in the shopping center and FJ's batteries are common in stock.
I had a new battery installed before my blueberry pancakes were served.
It was a great ride down thru Kayenta and Monument Valley.
A few weeks ago RPM advertised a used Telefix fork brace.
I had bought one of the cheap Chinese versions a while back and was glad to be able to replace it with "the real deal" at a fair price.
It's on, time for a ride!
Today was a good day to ride......
Finally at it's new home.
It's a far more expensive and less practical motorcycle than the FJ, but it is just so politically incorrect that it was just far too attractive to pass up......
Oh wow !!!!!! Total jealousy.......,that 750 is on my all-time wish-list :good2:
Nice find Steve! Have you ever ridden one?
If not, be careful, you will find that the H2's turn nothing like your FJ.
In fact, the verb 'turn' should probably not be used in the same sentence as H2.
That's funny Pat.
So why is this motorcycle politically incorrect? Because it's a two stroke maybe?
Joe
Took my RZ350 2-smoker out yesterday for a fun run. It is as un-PC as you can get.....there are no mosquitos left within a quarter mile! :sarcastic:
My brother had a triple. Watched him pull out next to a car @ 65-70 and gas it and ride a wheelie away, several times.
It had a bigbore, expansions, flat slides. And a set of dragbars(handle bars). Was a crazy machine.
He bought it because the shift shaft goes all the way through the cases. And comes out the other side. He put a short shift lever on the other side so he could shift it. Since he lost his other leg. When a girl turned and ran him over on his other bike.
I had an rz350. Bought it for my girl friend at the time. She later became my wife.
Was a fun ride.
Quote from: Tuned forks on September 27, 2019, 05:27:10 PM
That's funny Pat.
So why is this motorcycle politically incorrect? Because it's a two stroke maybe?
Joe
Nope Joe - it's because of those handlebars......what an abomination :sarcastic:. I love the bike but those handlebars are the pits !!!
Probably why my brother put dragbars on his.
Greetings all - Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to each and every one of you!
My wife (Ninja 250) and I were able to ride a couple days ago, it was nearly 70 here in the midwest - loved it!
I noticed my FJ is vibrating a lot more than normal, and I think it's why I've had some plastic crack and possibly killed my battery.
So I guess the time is here to do something about the mounts. And maybe get going on the other tasks I was to get done.
I've left my last job and have a window of maybe 60 days. Hopefully it works out.
Wishing you the best,
Steve
Please see attached, I may have found the starter drive for the motor I want to try out -
Does this look complete?
Steve, not sure about the internal bits but the starter in the image is the older 2 brush style. Consider getting the improved 4 brush for better hot starts.
without full disassembly, there is no way of know if it is complete.
Randy - RPM
Busted the FJ out two days in a row, loving this weather!
Yesterday it just seemed a little flat - then I noticed the chock partially on and oh yeah!
Awesome machines
Well, I'll wait to ride, I guess.....
Quote from: FJ1200W on April 26, 2020, 05:52:27 PM
Well, I'll wait to ride, I guess.....
That's an obvious sign of jealousy due to all the attention to the other FJ heart you are caressing. :pardon:
Randy - RPM
Quote from: racerrad8 on April 26, 2020, 07:10:23 PM
Quote from: FJ1200W on April 26, 2020, 05:52:27 PM
Well, I'll wait to ride, I guess.....
That's an obvious sign of jealousy due to all the attention to the other FJ heart you are caressing. :pardon:
Randy - RPM
You could be correct, absolutely correct.
I was going through some boxes and found what I think was the plug for the alternator - Vented?
And also found a stock ignition.
I dropped my block off to me milled. It seems the sleeve(s) slipped.
The machine shop is supposed to check them and make it flush.
$100 seems fair
Now to search for cylinder wall clearance recommendations - I'm all ears.
Block's back and it sure looks better.
I'll do a final hone and call it good.
Quote from: FJ1200W on June 16, 2020, 09:24:51 AM
Block's back and it sure looks better.
I'll do a final hone and call it good.
Excellent, just about there. Do you still plan on re-using the old rings?
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on June 17, 2020, 08:45:03 AM
Quote from: FJ1200W on June 16, 2020, 09:24:51 AM
Block's back and it sure looks better.
I'll do a final hone and call it good.
Excellent, just about there. Do you still plan on re-using the old rings?
Noel
Yes, they appear as new.
If I have any issues upon final inspection, they'll be replaced, but so far, so good.
:good2: