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General Category => Yamaha FJ1100 / FJ1200 Running Problems => Topic started by: SausageNips on May 24, 2017, 08:13:37 AM

Title: Fuel cock leaking
Post by: SausageNips on May 24, 2017, 08:13:37 AM
I'm having an issue with the right angled piece that comes off of the lower part of the fuel cock being loose and leaking.  I took it off and examined it (please see attached photo).  There is a groove on the part that goes into the fuel cock assembly - is there an o-ring that belongs there to keep it in place?  Does anyone know what size it is?

Thank you!

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4272/34733003501_4e614a1f4b_k.jpg)
Title: Re: Fuel cock leaking
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 24, 2017, 09:48:48 AM
No O ring, it's just a press fit. A bad design. If it falls out while you are riding, you're in deep doo doo.
That's why we tell folks to safety wire this elbow to the petcock body.
See my signature line.

You can use a sealant but be sure you get the angle correct on the elbow.

Cheers
Title: Re: Fuel cock leaking
Post by: SausageNips on May 24, 2017, 12:18:23 PM
Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Fuel cock leaking
Post by: balky1 on May 24, 2017, 01:05:21 PM
Did anyone ever try to weld it (is it aluminum?) or solder it?
Title: Re: Fuel cock leaking
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 24, 2017, 01:38:53 PM
Not that I'm aware.
Title: Re: Fuel cock leaking
Post by: FJ_Hooligan on May 24, 2017, 03:31:49 PM
I tried using threadlocker once but it didn't work.
Title: Re: Fuel cock leaking
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 24, 2017, 03:55:19 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 24, 2017, 09:48:48 AM

...You can use a sealant but be sure you get the angle correct on the elbow.


Just to be clear: You can add a dab of sealant, but it is NO SUBSTITUTION for safety wiring the elbow.
Title: Re: Fuel cock leaking
Post by: racerrad8 on May 24, 2017, 07:20:35 PM
I have not tried to solder, but I did try and TIG weld. The fitting is a "pot metal" that will not weld.

There have been a couple of people who have used some form of epoxy to reinstall the elbow. The problem with that is, if the epoxy fails, you could end up with a bike that gets burned to the ground.

Twist Tie Those Petcocks Folks! (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=7647.0)

Or

Re: '84 to '87 Petcocks: Safety wire your petcock. Do it now or asap! (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3265.msg112139#msg112139)

Here are links for both versions of the new petcocks.

84-85 Yamaha Fuel Tank Petcock (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3A36Y-24500-01)
86-88 Yamaha Fuel Tank Petcock (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3A1TX-24500-02)

Remember the petcocks, if original, on your FJ are thirty plus years old. You buy a new one and you can possibly get another 30 years of service from it. It is like an insurance policy to cover you from a fire.

Randy - RPM (http://www.rpmracingca/)
Title: Re: Fuel cock leaking
Post by: SausageNips on June 01, 2017, 05:30:43 PM
I bought a new aftermarket petcock with a shim plate and it installed very nicely (exact fit).  It no longer contains a diaphragm, so the small air hose has no where to connect to.  Can i just leave that or do I need to cap it off?
Title: Re: Fuel cock leaking
Post by: big r on June 01, 2017, 05:35:12 PM
Needs to be capped off. It is a vacuum line will suck air if not blocked. Big R
Title: Re: Fuel cock leaking
Post by: FJmonkey on June 01, 2017, 06:10:57 PM
Capping off the vacuum line to the petcock will stop the fuel flow on 84 to 87 FJs. I am not saying don't do it. But if you want fuel to flow to the carbs then fix the petcock or find an alternate solution.
Title: Re: Fuel cock leaking
Post by: racerrad8 on June 01, 2017, 06:57:49 PM
Monkey if he got the pingle from us with the adapter there is no vacuum port to the petcock. I believe he is talking about capping the intake manifold side. Which must be done when running the pingle or else you will have a vacuum leak where the oem petcock vacuum line goes into the manifold.

Robert - RPM
Title: Re: Fuel cock leaking
Post by: FJmonkey on June 01, 2017, 07:07:11 PM
Yes, capping off the petcock vs. capping off the vacuum port on the intake boot. If the petcock is no longer with a vacuum port then cap off the port at the intake boot.

Thanks for the clarification Robert.