I'm on a bit of a weight loss kick for my 89 FJ1200.
After bolting up a different exhaust, there's not a lot of places to drop big amounts of weight on the ol' FJ. So I'm after the little bits for now while trying not to loose the original FJ "look".
Not sure if it's been discussed before, but I dropped some grams with a simple lever swap.
1986:
(http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r618/justonepict/586B3696-A016-4D88-BADE-57237F668DB0_zps7zootaaw.jpg)
1989:
(http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r618/justonepict/F1EC1C50-C1AA-4EE7-A3F2-95E0C4147894_zpsbuzfvvnz.jpg)
So, half the weight, about 1/3 lb less.
Not a big difference when you're talking about a 550+ lb bike, but every bit helps. It was only 20 bucks shipped to my door so I figured why not?
:)
I'm swapping a couple things on the 89 that are steel that were aluminum on earlier bikes. Next up is the shift lever.
Still working on the exhaust. Got a couple kerker Slip ons that just showed up and a set of single wall header pipes. That collector is soooooome heavy thought. It's a spare collector, so I might cut it open and have a look to see what's what.
:dance2:
keep us updated with pics mate....
Get the RPM exhaust, it is super light. And swap out the swing arm and wheels. You could also apply the Mark Olson weight loss program.
Quote from: FJmonkey on May 23, 2017, 02:05:24 PM
Get the RPM exhaust, it is super light.
Don't doubt it and Randy sells good stuff, but it's not in the cards. I'm going with the Kerker slip ons for the look I want for the bike. Hence, wanting to "F" around with a stock collector to see what's going on in there.
Quote from: FJmonkey on May 23, 2017, 02:05:24 PMAnd swap out the swing arm and wheels.
Swingarm isn't going anywhere in the near future (IE: $$$). Tires I have to wear out before swapping, but there's a FZR750R front wheel and an FZR1000 EXUP rear wheel waiting in the rafters. Got my own metal lathe, so spacers and fitting the rear rim is not an issue.
Quote from: FJmonkey on May 23, 2017, 02:05:24 PMYou could also apply the Mark Olson weight loss program.
Now that I could certainly use......30-40 lbs worth of it....... :shok:
Quote from: great white on May 23, 2017, 02:42:13 PM
Now that I could certainly use......30-40 lbs worth of it....... :shok:
You can lose half that with the RPM exhaust I think it saves close to 20 lbs. Just a touch more than the few grams you saved with the brake pedal. Also, I think someone on here may have cut the collector open before, if I recall there isn't much in there except air.
Quote from: great white on May 23, 2017, 02:42:13 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on May 23, 2017, 02:05:24 PM
Get the RPM exhaust, it is super light.
Don't doubt it and Randy sells good stuff, but it's not in the cards. I'm going with the Kerker slip ons for the look I want for the bike. Hence, wanting to "F" around with a stock collector to see what's going on in there.
Yep, RPM's header is good stuff....but if you don't have the money, you don't have the money.
Don't despair.....
Replacing the stock mufflers with Kerker slip on's will save considerable weight.
Also, there is an alternative to the heavy stock steel collector box....I just can't find a picture right now.
It's a light weight 4 into 2 merge collector with a cross over pipe.... I didn't see it on FleaBay.
Lithium battery is probably the next easiest, semi-affordable weight loss. Do you have a corbin seat? Replace it with stock. Rider weight is the cheapest to remove! I'm trying to do that now...
Quote from: great white on May 23, 2017, 12:48:37 PM
...there's not a lot of places to drop big amounts of weight on the ol' FJ.
We talked about large amounts of weight loss here earlier this year:
1100 & 1200 Weight Differences? (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=16699.msg168776#msg168776)
Randy - RPM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 23, 2017, 04:23:04 PM
Quote from: great white on May 23, 2017, 02:42:13 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on May 23, 2017, 02:05:24 PM
Get the RPM exhaust, it is super light.
Don't doubt it and Randy sells good stuff, but it's not in the cards. I'm going with the Kerker slip ons for the look I want for the bike. Hence, wanting to "F" around with a stock collector to see what's going on in there.
Yep, RPM's header is good stuff....but if you don't have the money, you don't have the money.
Don't despair.....
Replacing the stock mufflers with Kerker slip on's will save considerable weight.
Also, there is an alternative to the heavy stock steel collector box....I just can't find a picture right now.
It's a light weight 4 into 2 merge collector with a cross over pipe.... I didn't see it on FleaBay.
perhaps:
(http://www.blackwidowexhausts.co.uk/ekmps/shops/sandybikespares/images/fj1200-fj-1200-exhaust-downpipes-and-collector-%5B3%5D-9187-p.jpg)
That's a UK sourced company I found that at. Would be pretty easy to build out of mild or stainless. Ti is a different story.... :wacko1:
Quote from: fj1289 on May 23, 2017, 04:40:08 PM
Lithium battery is probably the next easiest, semi-affordable weight loss. Do you have a corbin seat? Replace it with stock. Rider weight is the cheapest to remove! I'm trying to do that now...
Unfortunately, my AGM is less than a season old and I can't justify tossing it. I'd actually like to get something a little smaller (R6 has been mentioned) so i can fit the 600RR shock I've been playing with.
Seat is OEM.
Rider weight I coudl afford to loose for more than just the bike's benefit...... :sarcastic:
yep, that's it ^^^^
There is nothing you can do to the oem steel collector box (it's hollow) except replace it with something lighter.
If you have a '84 or '85 you can save weight by replacing the steel double wall header tubes with the '86 and later single wall stainless tubes.
I found this in the FJ UK Catalog
(http://www.fjcatalogue.com/i/exhaust/collectorbox1.jpg)
I like the smoother flow for gas merge, but it's a bit pricey: http://www.fjcatalogue.com/catalog/item/7168849/10020892.htm (http://www.fjcatalogue.com/catalog/item/7168849/10020892.htm)
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 23, 2017, 07:47:52 PM
yep, that's it ^^^^
There is nothing you can do to the oem steel collector box (it's hollow) except replace it with something lighter.
If you have a '84 or '85 you can save weight by replacing the steel double wall header tubes with the '86 and later single wall stainless tubes.
I found this in the FJ UK Catalog
(http://www.fjcatalogue.com/i/exhaust/collectorbox1.jpg)
I like the smoother flow for gas merge, but it's a bit pricey: http://www.fjcatalogue.com/catalog/item/7168849/10020892.htm (http://www.fjcatalogue.com/catalog/item/7168849/10020892.htm)
£199.00? Pshaw, I can bang that out in an afternoon in the garage. Methinks they have just a wee bit markup in there..... :sarcastic:
All my pipes are 89, so single wall.
Just for grins and giggles I chucked some stuff on the scale:
(http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r618/justonepict/ADC1E0E3-BB39-4D79-9EFD-DF67B98786BD_zps4bffsbk2.jpg)
(http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r618/justonepict/A686CEE7-B20E-4F74-B94E-4F88000BE141_zps5vpf9gip.jpg)
(http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r618/justonepict/AFB797DE-35EF-46BC-9991-B68C11872B0E_zpslnbbdxjq.jpg)
So lets see:
Kerkers = 2.1 kg x 2 = 4.2 KG
Stock collector = 3.2 kg
Headers = .8 kg x 4 = 3.2 kg
Total for stock system with Kerkers = 10.6 kg or approx 23.4 lb
That's actually not too terribly bad. If replacing the stock collector and coming in around at around 4 lbs (admittedly a WAG), you're still looking at 19-20 lbs.
Wonder how much the RPM system weights? 10-15 lbs maybe?
I also think I may be able to cut out some of that collector weight. While looking inside the collector, I can see it's lined with a stainless (?) mesh. That mesh is caked with soot from years of running. I'm thinking I'll give 'er a soak and see what comes out....can't hurt!
:sarcastic:
Quote from: great white on May 23, 2017, 09:38:39 PM
Wonder how much the RPM system weights? 10-15 lbs maybe?
No need to wonder, all of the weights are listed here:
RPM S/S Exhaust System (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RPMHeader). The lightest is 8.5 and the heaviest 9.9 lbs.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: racerrad8 on May 23, 2017, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: great white on May 23, 2017, 09:38:39 PM
Wonder how much the RPM system weights? 10-15 lbs maybe?
No need to wonder, all of the weights are listed here: RPM S/S Exhaust System (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RPMHeader). The lightest is 8.5 and the heaviest 9.9 lbs.
Randy - RPM
That's pretty good!
:)
And they sound really good as well. WOT with the induction growl from the UNI pods and RPM roar just adds to the KOOKALOO...
On my goodness! 899 USD.
Plus shipping and exchange would push me into the 1400-1500 cad range.
Too spicy for my blood with a $6,000 + landscaping bil currently hanging over my head.
Not a fan of pod filters on CV carbs either. Pass more air? Sure, potentially. But lots of jetting work required to get them to carburate properly, at least it always has been in my experience. Rather not open that particular can O' worms on this bike. Same with the induction roar, rather not on this bike. Heck, I may end up taking off the Kerkers if they're too loud for my taste.....
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
On my goodness! 899 USD.
Plus shipping and exchange would push me into the 1400-1500 cad range.
Not splitting hairs, but I just checked with general shipping to Nova Scotia and it is more like the $1300.00 range. You can knock 10% off of that if you take advantage of the current ongoing RPM Memorial Day Sale.
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Not a fan of pod filters on CV carbs either. Pass more air? Sure, potentially. But lots of jetting work required to get them to carburate properly, at least it always has been in my experience.
Not much work at all. I can get you right in the proper jetting range based on the specifics of your area. No matter what modifications you have made.
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Heck, I may end up taking off the Kerkers if they're too loud for my taste.....
The RPM exhaust system is not load by any means. In fact it sounds a lot like today's current sport bikes. A nice low rumble at slow speeds and not any noticeable exhaust noise while at highway speeds.
Don't let your prior experiences detour you from getting the most from your FJ.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: racerrad8 on May 24, 2017, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
On my goodness! 899 USD.
Plus shipping and exchange would push me into the 1400-1500 cad range.
Not splitting hairs, but I just checked with general shipping to Nova Scotia and it is more like the $1300.00 range. You can knock 10% off of that if you take advantage of the current ongoing RPM Memorial Day Sale.
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Not a fan of pod filters on CV carbs either. Pass more air? Sure, potentially. But lots of jetting work required to get them to carburate properly, at least it always has been in my experience.
Not much work at all. I can get you right in the proper jetting range based on the specifics of your area. No matter what modifications you have made.
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Heck, I may end up taking off the Kerkers if they're too loud for my taste.....
The RPM exhaust system is not load by any means. In fact it sounds a lot like today's current sport bikes. A nice low rumble at slow speeds and not any noticeable exhaust noise while at highway speeds.
Don't let your prior experiences detour you from getting the most from your FJ.
Randy - RPM
Don't get me wrong, I'm not casting stones at your product. I just don't have the cash for it right now.
1300 cad sounds about right if around 100 cad shipping. But when that declared value comes through customs, I can count on getting hit with gst to a tune of around 65 bucks. Then whatever duties they levy on it, which should be none if it's all NA content. As long as free trade hasn't gone all weird in light of recent political events that is........
I'd snugging up to the 1400 cad mark at least by the time it got to my door.
Like I've said before, I'm pleased with the products I've gotten from you so far, but I just don't have that kind of cash around in "liquid state" right now. Wife would kill me too since I've made a lot of big purchases recently (laptop, new truck, full maximum motorsports suspension for the mustang, etc). I have to build up some wife points before I hit the bank account again....:sarcastic:
I may try making up the "Delkevic style" 4 into 2. Probably do it in mild steel while I'm experimenting with it. Mild steel for ease of shaping. Plus; I have a lot of mild steel (tube and sheet) lying around. But honestly, mostly because my mig isn't set up for stainless right now. I'd have to buy a second bottle and that's not cheap here either....:sarcastic:
I'm just not looking to get into the airbox this year. Getting my venture/VMax hybrid into a decent running state was enough "fun" last year, and it still needs work. It's running strong (will flare the clutch on heavy throttle upshifts if you're not careful) , but 25 mpg indicates something is still way off, mostly fighting to find a good float level so I can zero in the rest of the carb circuits. Pulling the carbs in and out of the middle of the "V" is also not what I would call "a treat" either; I have to drop the front engine mounts to just to get the carbs out because the vboost makes them juuust tall enough to not clear the top frame rails. The FJ is runnin' fine and I have no desire to start tweaking the carbs on it this year. I need a break from carb work.... I'm hoping the kerker slip on don't mess with the jetting too much.
Sound/loud is pretty subjective, as I'm sure you know. I may not even like the kerker and go back to stock. Again, not casting aspirations against your products, I'm just not ready to bite into it for that type of cash.....at this time.
:)
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 08:36:01 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on May 24, 2017, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
On my goodness! 899 USD.
Plus shipping and exchange would push me into the 1400-1500 cad range.
Not splitting hairs, but I just checked with general shipping to Nova Scotia and it is more like the $1300.00 range. You can knock 10% off of that if you take advantage of the current ongoing RPM Memorial Day Sale.
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Not a fan of pod filters on CV carbs either. Pass more air? Sure, potentially. But lots of jetting work required to get them to carburate properly, at least it always has been in my experience.
Not much work at all. I can get you right in the proper jetting range based on the specifics of your area. No matter what modifications you have made.
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Heck, I may end up taking off the Kerkers if they're too loud for my taste.....
The RPM exhaust system is not load by any means. In fact it sounds a lot like today's current sport bikes. A nice low rumble at slow speeds and not any noticeable exhaust noise while at highway speeds.
Don't let your prior experiences detour you from getting the most from your FJ.
Randy - RPM
Don't get me wrong, I'm not casting stones at your product. I just don't have the cash for it right now.
Perfectly understood. I was just making sure the numbers were right.
Don't forget, I do "adjust" all duty values to try and keep the fees to a minimum.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
On my goodness! 899 USD.
I know! The same exhaust for a Busa goes for $1000-1250!
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Not a fan of pod filters on CV carbs either. Pass more air? Sure, potentially. But lots of jetting work required to get them to carburate properly, at least it always has been in my experience. Rather not open that particular can O' worms on this bike.
I have pods, and have used with 4-1 and now a 4-2 system with various jets and needle height settings. I'm not a fan, because my bike is now a powerful moped with a nice induction sound and a very quick top end. The mid range kick that the standard air box/ filter gave has gone and is replaced by an almost linear acceleration which I don't like.
Which for me means my most common riding rev range of well below 7000 revs is not as good as it was with the airbox and STANDARD filter.
With speed cameras, traffic and our small country with short roads, it's not easy to ride at high revs which is where pods come into their own.
I know plenty of people on here disagree and that's fine, but my experience on different bikes is that pods of any type ruin the mid range.
Think I've talked myself into going back to the air box again...either that or sell.
Sorry for going off topic... :wacko3:
Just my two penny worth. If someone had a great system without those horrible car muffler things on the end I would seriously consider. There is nothing like a beautiful long mega or reverse cone.
Chiz
Quote from: chiz on May 25, 2017, 08:03:21 AM
Just my two penny worth. If someone had a great system without those horrible car muffler things on the end I would seriously consider. There is nothing like a beautiful long mega or reverse cone.
Chiz
Chiz,
Ask and you shall receive...
The
RPM S/S Exhaust System (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RPMHeader) has a megaphone muffler option.
(http://www.rpmracingca.com/prodimages/large/RPMHeader-5.jpg)
Randy - RPM
Quote from: mark1969 on May 25, 2017, 06:04:52 AM
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Not a fan of pod filters on CV carbs either. Pass more air? Sure, potentially. But lots of jetting work required to get them to carburate properly, at least it always has been in my experience. Rather not open that particular can O' worms on this bike.
I have pods, and have used with 4-1 and now a 4-2 system with various jets and needle height settings. I'm not a fan, because my bike is now a powerful moped with a nice induction sound and a very quick top end. The mid range kick that the standard air box/ filter gave has gone and is replaced by an almost linear acceleration which I don't like.
Which for me means my most common riding rev range of well below 7000 revs is not as good as it was with the airbox and STANDARD filter.
With speed cameras, traffic and our small country with short roads, it's not easy to ride at high revs which is where pods come into their own.
I know plenty of people on here disagree and that's fine, but my experience on different bikes is that pods of any type ruin the mid range.
Think I've talked myself into going back to the air box again...either that or sell.
Sorry for going off topic... :wacko3:
Mark,
No need to sell, we can fix that.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: chiz on May 25, 2017, 08:03:21 AM
Just my two penny worth. If someone had a great system without those horrible car muffler things on the end I would seriously consider.
I think they are so huge now is because they have built-in catalytic convertors(?) When I had my '97 R1100GS it had a convertor underneath/behind the oil pan prior to the mid pipe exiting to the muffler, thus keeping it to an acceptable size. It had the ground clearance to accomodate that.
Just wonder what will happen (and it probably will) when they ban ALL non-catalytic vehicles from the road... :cray: DOH! Have gone from a brake lever to catalytic exhausts.... :sorry:
How about sound clips for all the above?
Quote from: racerrad8 on May 25, 2017, 10:36:35 AM
Quote from: chiz on May 25, 2017, 08:03:21 AM
Just my two penny worth. If someone had a great system without those horrible car muffler things on the end I would seriously consider. There is nothing like a beautiful long mega or reverse cone.
Chiz
Chiz,
Ask and you shall receive...
The RPM S/S Exhaust System (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RPMHeader) has a megaphone muffler option.
(http://www.rpmracingca.com/prodimages/large/RPMHeader-5.jpg)
Randy - RPM
Quote from: PaulG on May 25, 2017, 11:54:24 AM
Just wonder what will happen (and it probably will) when they ban ALL non-catalytic vehicles from the road... :cray: DOH! Have gone from a brake lever to catalytic exhausts.... :sorry:
Paul - I wouldn't worry about that too much -- I mean it would probably happen in someplace like Ontario LONG before it becomes a widespread issue...
:biggrin:
Quote from: Mattman on May 25, 2017, 01:49:39 PM
How about sound clips for all the above?
You will hear several next week at the WCR.
I'm not sure if there will be a megaphone muffler there, but plenty of S/S & Carbon Fiber.
I know there are a couple of videos people have posted with the muffler note. But the video does not do it justice.
Randy - RPM
Yes its the megaphone im interested in hearing, I have been listening to exhaust sound clips for my mustang like crazy, so hard to decide because like you said the 'in person' sound is much different. ( probably better in all cases) With cars I have to go with sound clips to make a decision because its unlikely to find my set up exactly with the so many different muffler choices. ugh lol
Quote from: Mattman on May 25, 2017, 02:01:57 PMYes its the megaphone im interested in hearing, I have been listening to exhaust sound clips for my mustang like crazy, so hard to decide because like you said the 'in person' sound is much different. ( probably better in all cases) With cars I have to go with sound clips to make a decision because its unlikely to find my set up exactly with the so many different muffler choices. ugh
Mattman,
Most computer sound systems are
LAME. For any sound clips that you find, try listening with some high quality earbuds, instead. The sound is there, really, but the desk speakers can't hack the mission.
@ PaulG, Since the Lightning LS-218 ran away with the Bonneville speed record
and the Pikes Peak race to the top, I have not been too concerned with catalytics, or their departure. For Bonneville, "the Lightning Motorcycle team claims it used 'only 18 cents of electricity on their record-breaking run and were getting the equivalent of over 50 mpg at over 200 mph.' Welcome to the future." I think they took off the mirrors, for Bonneville.
Good Idea thanks Red!
"Since the Lightning LS-218 ran away with the Bonneville speed record and the Pikes Peak race to the top, I have not been too concerned with catalytics, or their departure. For Bonneville, "the Lightning Motorcycle team claims it used 'only 18 cents of electricity on their record-breaking run and were getting the equivalent of over 50 mpg at over 200 mph.' Welcome to the future." I think they took off the mirrors, for Bonneville."
thats amazing!
Quote from: racerrad8 on May 24, 2017, 08:17:34 PM
You can knock 10% off of that if you take advantage of the current ongoing RPM Memorial Day Sale.
Is that 10% also for Non Contributors + more if you are a Contributor?
and if so how quick does the Contributor part kick in once your Subscription is paid given banks close over weekends and such?
Quote from: racerrad8 on May 24, 2017, 08:40:32 PM
Don't forget, I do "adjust" all duty values to try and keep the fees to a minimum.
Randy - RPM
"adjust" :good2: would be well received if purchasing a few items with 1 being a lot more that others to even out the playing field.
Cheers Alan
Quote from: Sparky84 on May 25, 2017, 07:21:34 PM
Is that 10% also for Non Contributors + more if you are a Contributor?
No, the sale is for contributing members of the forum. Thus the title of the topic,
"Membership has its privileges" (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=16427.msg165938#msg165938)
Quote from: Sparky84 on May 25, 2017, 07:21:34 PM
and if so how quick does the Contributor part kick in once your Subscription is paid given banks close over weekends and such?
Since PayPal never closes, usually in less than 24 hours.
Quote from: Sparky84 on May 25, 2017, 07:21:34 PM
"adjust" :good2: would be well received if purchasing a few items with 1 being a lot more that others to even out the playing field.
Cheers Alan
Not quite sure I understand. I definitely do not understand import duty/taxes since we do not have any such requirement in the US. I have been told many times over the years, the "total" amount of the imported items are what the tax/duty is based from. So, I always adjust to try and keep it from raising red flags and getting hit with a bunch of duty/taxes.
Unfortunately every country is different and I can't be responsible for import/duty tax applications.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: red on May 25, 2017, 05:31:05 PM
@ PaulG, Since the Lightning LS-218 ran away with the Bonneville speed record and the Pikes Peak race to the top, I have not been too concerned with catalytics, or their departure. For Bonneville, "the Lightning Motorcycle team claims it used 'only 18 cents of electricity on their record-breaking run and were getting the equivalent of over 50 mpg at over 200 mph.' Welcome to the future." I think they took off the mirrors, for Bonneville.
More hijacking... :blush:
Yes the brave new world. Invest in playing card & clothes pin manufacturers. They will be needed to clip the cards to the forks to get that rata-rata-rata-rata sound to mimic the old I/C engine we will all miss.
Speaking of which if anyone hasn't seen this - TT Zero-John McGuiness-Mugen Shinden (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlxZs2-gICc). No need to turn it up as there is little to hear.
Quote from: Mattman on May 25, 2017, 01:49:39 PM
How about sound clips for all the above?
Quote from: racerrad8 on May 25, 2017, 10:36:35 AM
Quote from: chiz on May 25, 2017, 08:03:21 AM
Just my two penny worth. If someone had a great system without those horrible car muffler things on the end I would seriously consider. There is nothing like a beautiful long mega or reverse cone.
Chiz
Chiz,
Ask and you shall receive...
The RPM S/S Exhaust System (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RPMHeader) has a megaphone muffler option.
(http://www.rpmracingca.com/prodimages/large/RPMHeader-5.jpg)
Randy - RPM
Here is a video of My RPM exhaust.
https://youtu.be/Wtf4u7SlkZQ (https://youtu.be/Wtf4u7SlkZQ)
A longer video with proper jetting.
https://youtu.be/6gGS97BPE0w (https://youtu.be/6gGS97BPE0w)
Fred
Thanks Fred cool!
So, ummm... yeah. Somewhat back to the topic, steel shifter vs aluminum
(http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r618/justonepict/28DC4BD7-58C4-4DB7-8C02-0D32B9B50B66_zpsykcqempl.jpg)
(http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r618/justonepict/B9F91BFC-1789-46B4-9B51-5C2E8156A2F0_zpst2nxfzzg.jpg)
Everything I did to the fjr1350r to make it better also made it lighter. Gsxr front end, supertrapp exhaust, lithium battery, gsxr rear wheel, f4i shock. Even the digital guages where 2.8lbs lighter. I cut the rear passenger peg sections off. To move the rear master over for future r1 swingarm.
Weighing the stock parts against the replacement parts. I'm down about 55lbs. Now if I could lose about 45lbs myself. I'd be down 100lbs. 164hp.114ft lbs torque. Kookaloo.
You guys rock? Finding ways to drop the weight and document it. And they all seem to include the rider. Leave nothing out...