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Title: Lesson of the day.
Post by: Pat Conlon on February 21, 2017, 05:14:27 PM
When replacing the 2 JIS Phillips screws with SS Allen heads on the petcock, don't use lock washers.

:Facepalm:

That is all.....carry on.
Title: Re: Lesson of the day.
Post by: big r on February 21, 2017, 05:23:20 PM
WHY :scratch_one-s_head:
Title: Re: Lesson of the day.
Post by: FJ_Hooligan on February 21, 2017, 05:28:34 PM
You can't just dump a turd like that and not flush!
Title: Re: Lesson of the day.
Post by: PaulG on February 21, 2017, 06:52:04 PM
I think I know why and there was probably a lot of this too

https://youtu.be/Imv7xo2DcVE (https://youtu.be/Imv7xo2DcVE)   :ireful:

Title: Re: Lesson of the day.
Post by: Pat Conlon on February 21, 2017, 07:13:02 PM
The screws are located inside the petcock o ring gasket. There are no liquid tight grommets on the screws. The Phillips heads are ment to friction seal against the flat washer and the surface of the petcock.

When you put split ring lock washers Between the screw heads and the petcock you don't get a seal...you get a drip, drip, drip, right on to your left UniPod.....drip, drip, drip....

All night long in my garage.......drip, drip, drip, drip...

I love the strong smell of fresh gas in the morning.....It reminds me of.....
Title: Re: Lesson of the day.
Post by: Sparky84 on February 21, 2017, 08:06:04 PM
Another tip learnt the wrong way.

Don't use engine oil on your Uni Filters.
Title: Re: Lesson of the day.
Post by: FJ_Hooligan on February 22, 2017, 10:42:42 AM
I thought the original Phillips screws had some kind of gaskets for the screws?  I recall taking mine off and one of the gaskets split, half stayed stuck to the screw and half left on the tank.  I reinstalled them back where they came out of and it didn't leak.

Either way, you wouldn't want to use lock washers on a gasket.
Title: Re: Lesson of the day.
Post by: Pat Conlon on February 22, 2017, 11:05:12 AM
Hi Hooli, how are you doing?
On the '92 I'm finishing there was no gasket, just an oval O ring on the base of the petcock.
I was watching closely when I removed the oem phillips screws, they just had just a flat washer.

With the threads of the screws poking into the fuel tank, immersed in fuel,  I knew that blue thread lock would degrade, so I thought ss lock washers would add some safety to keep the petcock screws snug and secure.......wrong. 
Title: Re: Lesson of the day.
Post by: FJ1100mjk on February 22, 2017, 12:32:23 PM
Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on February 22, 2017, 10:42:42 AM
I thought the original Phillips screws had some kind of gaskets for the screws?  I recall taking mine off and one of the gaskets split, half stayed stuck to the screw and half left on the tank.  I reinstalled them back where they came out of and it didn't leak.

They're supposed to be fiber gaskets that seal. I've had the same (de-laminate) thing happen before to mine when the petcock
screws were removed.

Same part number on the '85 and '92 90202-05187-00 WASHER,PLATE (http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/yamaha/Y-90202-05187-00.html)
Title: Re: Lesson of the day.
Post by: Pat Conlon on February 22, 2017, 05:44:43 PM
Thanks Marty!

No fiber gaskets when I removed the screws, just a plate washers. The PO must have removed them....I just ordered a pair.

Thanks again guys...