Just a question for the collective..... is anyone using the RPM grip heaters? I rode my wife's Can Am Spyder yesterday (yeah, I know...) and it was in the 50s. It didn't take long to find out how nice heated grips are. I was wondering how hot they are on the high and low settings and if it is a high quality kit. I know everything I have gotten from Randy has been top quality stuff.
Joe
Quote from: Country Joe on October 09, 2016, 04:40:13 PM
Just a question for the collective..... is anyone using the RPM grip heaters?
Joe
No. After having heated grips (Oxford) on another bike, that I sold with it, I bought heated gloves. I won't be going back to heated grips again.
Heated gloves completely envelope the hand, heating each finger and thumb. They aren't tied to one particular bike if you own more than one too.
Which gloves are you using? Are you connecting it through a heated best or jacket?
Gerbing gloves, connected to a Warm & Safe jacket liner with one of their remote dual control heat-trollers. The setup works very well, as you can control the heat level of the gloves separately from the jacket liner. However, you can just use heated gloves, if your only concern is cold hands. My above setup cost much more than a set of heated grips, but it works for me, where the heated grips had their shortcomings with me.
I have used heated grips on several of my bikes now. They are a must-have accessory for me.
The grips are really nice for commuting - I can have them on in the morning when it's cool, and off in the afternoon, and I don't have to mess with two sets of gloves.
I use Bikemaster grips. They are cheap, well built, heat the whole grip, not just a strip of it, and have 5 heat settings, which I find very useful.
No doubt about it, heated gloves are the ducks nuts when it comes to hand warmth. I even have a vest (Tourmaster Synergy) with connections and a controller already configured for them, but I don't have them. At a very steep $350, it's not even the cost. For me it is practicality.
I like the thinnest gloves I can get away with which means I change them several times over an average day. The duration of the trip also has some bearing on glove choice, as it takes some hours for the cold to really penetrate your bones. I also don't like the twisties with thick gloves, no matter how cold it is.
A typical mid Winter days riding here starts at about 0 deg C and rises to high single digits, not that cold. And then there's the rain. On an all day wet ride I go through several sets of "water proof" gloves.
My gloves usually only last a few seasons as well.
I know nothing about the RPM units but I have the Oxford grips, which appear to be the standard, and after 9 Winters and a hundred and something thousand km's, I can't imagine riding without them. Yes, heated gloves give you warmer hands and if I lived somewhere really cold and I rode through the Winter, I would probably have a set, but only in addition to heated grips.
I recently put in a 650 km day with the temp peaking at 5.5 C and for most of the day hovered between 0 and 2 (rained most of the day with intermittent hail and snow) and the grips did a great job.
I like the versatility of grips better and while I ride a lot and use them a lot, I don't live in a particularly cold climate.
What you won't realise until you get them is you don't just use them to stave off frostbite, but for comfort, sometimes it's nice just having warm hands even when it's not particularly cold. For probably half the year, mine stay on all day, I just vary the heat.
I have posted reports on the Oxford grips here a number of times over the years, value for money they are great, and you can buy spares for them, not that I've ever needed any.
One great advantage the gloves have is instant heat (infrared) no warming up.
Whatever you end up with, you'll love the warm hands.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on October 10, 2016, 05:33:07 AM
What you won't realise until you get them is you don't just use them to stave off frostbite, but for comfort, sometimes it's nice just having warm hands even when it's not particularly cold.
This.
Gentlemen,
Thank you for all the input. I don't wind up riding a lot in the cold, but have started the day with below freezing temps. I think I will start out with heated grips and escalate to heated gloves if that seems prudent.
Joe
QuoteI think I will start out with heated grips and escalate to heated gloves if that seems prudent.
Seems like a good idea. I started with heated grips and they worked well, but when the weather gets into the 20's, heated gloves work best for me. I still have grip heaters on my bikes because sometimes you didn't think to pack them. This past July, I got caught in some dense fog and when my gloves got damp, I turned on my grip heaters.
Heated gloves I can understand, burrrr....but heated grips? Come on, isn't that a bit much? How silly.
Until I installed them (Oxford) wow....these things are the bomb! I love them.
Reminds me of the saying by William Paley:
"There is a principal which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principal is: Contempt prior to investigation."
I am with Pat on the grips. I had the pads for a few years and stepped up to the Oxfords. No comparison well worth the money.
I have the grip heaters from RPM, they even work through the foam grips. I am quite happy with them, they allow me my grip of choice.
G'day,
Over the years I have suffered the old cold fingers malady, having to stop every 15 minutes to put the hands on the engine head. I wanted to avoid handlebar heaters and the like, so I thought to give mittens a go, they worked pretty well, and then I bought some neoprene handlebar muffs and have not looked back! I wear light winter gloves in them, and I can vouch they are great in frosts or air temps around -1 to -3 Celsius. They are cheap, durable, and take a minute to attach.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/10/1121_15_10_16_1_17_07.jpeg)
Quote from: mr blackstock on October 15, 2016, 02:21:23 AM
G'day,
I wanted to avoid handlebar heaters and the like, so I thought to give mittens a go, they worked pretty well, and then I bought some neoprene handlebar muffs and have not looked back! I wear light winter gloves in them, and I can vouch they are great in frosts or air temps around -1 to -3 Celsius. They are cheap, durable, and take a minute to attach.
Excellent Gareth, can you post a pic of them on the bike. From time to time I have considered these for long mid Winter trips but never found any I liked. How do you find using the clutch and front brake with them and how do they go in the rain?
Hmmmm, muffs
and heated grips ....nice.
I have noticed even bark busters make a difference by deflecting the wind, the muffs must be fantastic but I draw the line at mittens, I can't ride in them.
Noel
G'day,
I had to cut a hole in the outer edge of each muff to allow for the bar weights extra length, and using the clutch and brake is unchanged. I find wearing winter gloves and getting my hands in there can be a tight fit, so I have been wearing summer gloves, but once the hands are in, it is quite comfortable. I bought these locally, but they do not come up very often on ebay Oz. UK would have them cheap though.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/10/1121_16_10_16_3_03_41.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/10/1121_16_10_16_3_11_04.jpeg)
I use heated glove liners, which are great, and it allows you to use summer gloves over them for those days where it's in the 40's on the way to work, and in the 80's or hotter on the way home.
If I used heated grips, I'd buy them from RPM.
Quote from: ZOA NOM on October 16, 2016, 04:39:02 AM
If I used heated grips, I'd buy them from RPM.
Why are they better than Oxfords?
Noel
I sure like that battery saver function on the Oxford controller. After stopping, it automatically shuts the grips off after 3 minutes.
Thanks Noel on the tip about the Oxford system. Top shelf.
Quote from: ribbert on October 17, 2016, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on October 16, 2016, 04:39:02 AM
If I used heated grips, I'd buy them from RPM.
Why are they better than Oxfords?
Noel
Who knows, I prefer to spend my money at RPM.
Quote from: ZOA NOM on October 17, 2016, 12:49:39 PM
Quote from: ribbert on October 17, 2016, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on October 16, 2016, 04:39:02 AM
If I used heated grips, I'd buy them from RPM.
Why are they better than Oxfords?
Noel
Who knows, I prefer to spend my money at RPM.
With the Oxfords you get their grips. The under grip heaters like RPM sells gives you a choice of grip styles. Simple as that, if you are not picky on grip style then Oxford may be a good choice. If you like a certain grip and want some heat to go with it then an under heater provides the options. I like the foam grips, hard to find in a heated option.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on October 17, 2016, 10:50:10 AM
I sure like that battery saver function on the Oxford controller. After stopping, it automatically shuts the grips off after 3 minutes.
Thanks Noel on the tip about the Oxford system. Top shelf.
Pat, all of the heated grips I have installed, I have taken the power source for the grips from a keyed power source so there is not chance of running the battery down.
Noel, as monkey already mentioned, the Oxfords are their grip and do not have any other options. The oxford does have several different heat levels where the kit I sell has only two. But the ones I sell are $50.00 cheaper and that is the cost of the oxford controller.
Randy - RPM
My grip heaters are ignition switched, so I cannot kill the battery by leaving them on. The extra connector on the Right side of the bike works quite well for that.
Wired my Oxfords to a switched control relay but they also have the auto shut off feature. I have run both the pads and now the Oxfords and IMO the Oxfords are by far better. I was worried at first because I ran foam grips and the Oxfords are a standard style grip but as it turned out I feel no more vibration than normal. The heating is better. In fact I usually have to turn it down to the lowest setting most of the time. Went for a ride and at a stop two others were gathered around my bike, thought they were curious about the FJ, not... They were holding on to my still warm grips warming the fingers.
George
If Randy starts carrying Bikemasters, I'll get them from him.
They have a control like Oxfords, and excellent build quality, but usually go fro $40 less than Oxfords.
Quote from: ZOA NOM on October 17, 2016, 12:49:39 PM
Quote from: ribbert on October 17, 2016, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on October 16, 2016, 04:39:02 AM
If I used heated grips, I'd buy them from RPM.
Why are they better than Oxfords?
Noel
Who knows, I prefer to spend my money at RPM.
Ok, time to come clean... I need to admit that I've strayed from the sentiment I expressed above and purchased heated grips elsewhere. I wanted to find high quality grips with as close to OEM look as possible. My search led me to the Koso Apollo heated grips. The controller and switch is integrated into the left grip, so there is no mounting of an external switch, just slip them on and route the wires to your switched source.
A thumb switch cycles through five levels of heat, indicated by a color changing LED. Absolutely beautiful result. Found 'em on Amazon...$120
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T6IX42S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T6IX42S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Thanks Rick....those look very cool, integrated controls and not needing an outboard controller like the Oxford. Let us know how they work.
I missed my foam grips, so following Aviation Fred's lead, I put these Grip Puppies over the hard Oxford heated grips.
(http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mWwrJXrqgFRVkOZG7gC29NA.jpg)
They work like a charm. Thanks Fred!
As I get older, I'm finding that keeping my hands warm and keeping the tingles away is a very good idea.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 09, 2017, 02:41:33 PM
Thanks Rick....those look very cool, integrated controls and not needing an outboard controller like the Oxford. Let us know how they work.
I missed my foam grips, so following Aviation Fred's lead, I put these Grip Puppies over the hard Oxford heated grips.
(http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mWwrJXrqgFRVkOZG7gC29NA.jpg)
They work like a charm. Thanks Fred!
As I get older, I'm finding that keeping my hands warm and keeping the tingles away is a very good idea.
Nice! I'll keep those in mind...
These are now available at RPM just in time for Christmas. Credit to Rick for finding these.
KOSO Apollo Heated Handle Bar Grips (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KOSOGrips)
Robert - RPM (http://www.rpmracingca.com/index.asp)
So, after a minor setback, the reviews are SPECTACULAR. I don't know how I ever lived without heated grips. I was all set to leave for work Saturday night about 11pm, having installed the grips that morning. Slip into my riding suit, throw on my helmet and start up the bike. All good so far. Back out of the garage while she warms up, push in the choke knob and tap her into gear. Let out the clutch slowly while twisting the throttle and... she just sits there at idle...
So I need to get to work, so I push her back into the garage, jump out of the suit, and hop into the truck and off I go. Work my graveyard shift, grab some shuteye when I get home, and head out to the garage in my jammies to check it out.
I discovered two issues with my install; first, the Throttlemeister bar end needed to be disabled or modified because the hard plastic tube inside the heated grip prevents the installation of the rubber sleeve it uses to create the friction grip when enabled for cruise control, and second, not gluing the heated grip onto the plastic throttle sleeve will allow enough clearance for the grip to simply twist without moving the throttle cables. The clutch side needed no glue, and even needed to be tapped into place with a rubber mallet. The throttle side could be pressed on by hand, and felt as though there would be enough friction to operate the throttle, but apparently it wasn't. Rather than glue it, which would mean a serious mess if I ever needed to remove it, I chose to wrap a single layer of blue painter's tape on the end closest to the starter button, and it was a perfect fit. I don't have the use of the Throttlemeister at the moment, but the bar end fits nicely. I'll have to see if I can fabricate a new way for it to work with the hard edge of the heated grip tube. Vibranators or OEM bar ends will have no issues.
edit: Thanks Robert! I had to actually turn these DOWN on my ride to work this morning in 39 degree weather. The heat is phenomenal. I could have worn summer gloves.
Quote from: racerrad8 on December 11, 2017, 10:55:14 AM
Credit to Rick for finding these.
KOSO Apollo Heated Handle Bar Grips (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KOSOGrips)
Robert - RPM (http://www.rpmracingca.com/index.asp)
Uh, really? (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=14748.0)
:Facepalm:
Quote from: FJ1100mjk on December 11, 2017, 11:54:06 AM
Quote from: racerrad8 on December 11, 2017, 10:55:14 AM
Credit to Rick for finding these.
KOSO Apollo Heated Handle Bar Grips (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KOSOGrips)
Robert - RPM (http://www.rpmracingca.com/index.asp)
Uh, really? (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=14748.0)
Apologies, Marty, I will amend this ASAP
Credit to Rick for installing and testing these babies out and also credit to Marty's thread for posting them originally. And to anyone else who may have posted these somewhere at some point in time, that I may have forgotten. :flag_of_truce:
Robert - RPM
What's the statute of limitations?
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 11, 2017, 01:08:39 PM
What's the statute of limitations?
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Quote from: FJ1100mjk on December 11, 2017, 01:25:13 PM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 11, 2017, 01:08:39 PM
What's the statute of limitations?
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Well, at least tell us how they've held up?
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 11, 2017, 01:31:52 PM
Well, at least tell us how they've held up?
Rick:
I never bought, or used them. I had a pair of Oxford ones on a non-FJ application. I found out that from my experience, and of my opinion, heated gloves are superior to heated grips, in that they keep your whole hand warm. Cold tops of hands, and frozen thumbs are not a problem with heated gloves, but you are tethered to the bike with wires. Something, that I am okay with, considering the comfort provided.
I am sure heated grips make some happy, and have a purpose, but for any real time on a bike at highway speeds in the cold, heated gloves work for me.
Quote from: FJ1100mjk on December 11, 2017, 01:48:55 PM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 11, 2017, 01:31:52 PM
Well, at least tell us how they've held up?
Rick:
I never bought, or used them. I had a pair of Oxford ones on a non-FJ application. I found out that from my experience, and of my opinion, heated gloves are superior to heated grips, in that they keep your whole hand warm. Cold tops of hands, and frozen thumbs are not a problem with heated gloves, but you are tethered to the bike with wires. Something, that I am okay with, considering the comfort provided.
I am sure heated grips make some happy, and have a purpose, but for any real time on a bike at highway speeds in the cold, heated gloves work for me.
You determined that without ever owning or using them? OK
I've now owned and used both (actually all three if you include the chemical reaction type heated gloves), commuting an hour each way, and these have all of them beat, especially with regard to all the tethering involved with the heated gloves. My hands stayed warm, all over, including the tops and thumbs, which I would attribute to the warm blood flow provided mostly in the palm area.
To each his own.
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 11, 2017, 03:02:43 PM
You determined that without ever owning or using them? OK
Yes, I determined "that", by riding hundreds of miles in the third week of October across the northern tier plains states. In one day, and it was in the 30s and 40s. Not an hour commute in California. Sheesh. Oxford grips are comparable to the Apollos. Nuff said.
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 11, 2017, 03:02:43 PM
To each his own.
Exactly!
Quote from: FJ1100mjk on December 11, 2017, 04:43:13 PM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 11, 2017, 03:02:43 PM
You determined that without ever owning or using them? OK
Yes, I determined "that", by riding hundreds of miles in the third week of October across the northern tier plains states. In one day, and it was in the 30s and 40s. Not an hour commute in California. Sheesh. Oxford grips are comparable to the Apollos. Nuff said.
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 11, 2017, 03:02:43 PM
To each his own.
Exactly!
Wow, touchy much?
So to recap; Marty posted about the Apollo's first, and Marty doesn't like them because the back of his tootsies were cold on an ill-advised journey on a motorcycle across the Northern Tundra in October. Apparently 39 degrees up there is different than 39 degrees here in sunny California.
For the rest of us who see bundling up like an Eskimo and plugging into the bike with wires dangling all over us like Christmas tree light strings as an inconvenience, the Apollo's are a very nice compromise without the need to mount an external controller, and MY hands stayed warm, fingers and all, for the WHOLE HOUR that I commute to work. Maybe there's a difference between the Apollo's and the Oxford's, but we'll never know, because I never owned a set, and Marty never owned the Apollo's, so...
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 11, 2017, 08:43:02 PM
Maybe there's a difference between the Apollo's and the Oxford's...
A couple of differences that I noted:
1) a $30 price difference and
2) You can get replacement parts with the Oxfords. I did not see anything listed for the Apollo's.
Regardless, heated grips are the bomb.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 11, 2017, 09:11:23 PM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 11, 2017, 08:43:02 PM
Maybe there's a difference between the Apollo's and the Oxford's...
A couple of differences that I noted:
1) a $30 price difference and
2) You can get replacement parts with the Oxfords. I did not see anything listed for the Apollo's.
Regardless, heated grips are the bomb.
3) No external control panel :gamer:
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 11, 2017, 08:43:02 PM
Wow, touchy much?
So to recap; Marty posted about the Apollo's first, and Marty doesn't like them because the back of his tootsies were cold on an ill-advised journey on a motorcycle across the Northern Tundra in October. Apparently 39 degrees up there is different than 39 degrees here in sunny California.
For the rest of us who see bundling up like an Eskimo and plugging into the bike with wires dangling all over us like Christmas tree light strings as an inconvenience, the Apollo's are a very nice compromise without the need to mount an external controller, and MY hands stayed warm, fingers and all, for the WHOLE HOUR that I commute to work. Maybe there's a difference between the Apollo's and the Oxford's, but we'll never know, because I never owned a set, and Marty never owned the Apollo's, so...
Yea, that's what the journey was and your "ill-advised" description is spot-on, because you were there with me for every mile of that epic 5,400 mile, western state tour weren't you? And you can certainly recall that the trip included temperature extremes, sun, rain, snow and most importantly beautiful scenery and great roads, and opportunities to cross paths with interesting people from many states, that make a trip like that memorable for any
real motorcyclist. And of course commuters wouldn't understand any of this either. Right?
I learned from that trip how inadequate heated grips were for me, on any
real motorcycling trip, so I had the heated gear (and no heated grips) for another epic trip of thousands of miles. The one that took me back and forth to the 2016 Colorado Central Rally, that was just as memorable and also had its share of weather challenges. The heated gear (jacket liner, gloves and socks) made cold portions of the trip, such as snowy mountain passes in Colorado and rain and cold in the other Great Plains states, more comfortable, less fatiguing, and safer.
You enjoy your heated grips for your little hour commutes, and that's great, but my opinion and my needs for heated gloves have been formed from lessons I've learned in
real motorcycling adventures.
P.S. Reply if you want, but I could care less. Especially your uninformed, snarky comments.
You win Marty. :flag_of_truce:
but for the record, this is a heated GRIPS thread, feel free to start a heated GLOVE thread and share your opinions all you like.
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 11, 2017, 11:18:28 AM
.... Rather than glue it, which would mean a serious mess if I ever needed to remove it, I chose to wrap a single layer of blue painter's tape on the end closest to the starter button, and it was a perfect fit.
Rick, you may find they tell you to super glue them for good reason (AND leave it for 24 hour before use) Heat is the very thing we use to return glue to its gooey non bonding state. Leave them on long / high enough and it will make short work of the painters tape. Mine used to start turning slowly on the clutch side after a few hours, I wouldn't notice until it started fouling the clutch lever. That was a result of fitting them as I rode out the door and using them straight away, the glue never set properly.
For the benefit of anyone considering fitting these, make sure you can push them all the way home dry before you put the glue on, no time for mallets, you literally have a couple of seconds to get them all the way home before the glue bites.
Not a bad idea to mark your orientation either, for the same reason, you get no time to twist and fiddle with them. Make sure the wires don't foul your levers or hit the tank.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8517/29931344996_da514251db_c.jpg)
Rick, Marty, IMO you are both correct (having used both) Grips have their limitations for temperature / duration, gloves work better but are a PIA.
Noel
Good advice, Noel, thanks. I'll mark the grips to keep an eye on whether they slip. So far, the painter's tape is holding up well. The clutch side is rock solid, and unlikely to move.
Heated gloves or grips or liners...
Well, now if I may add another subject not mentioned - and that is hand protection in the event of a fall.
With both the heated hand grips and heated glove liners, there is a choice of gloves. With the heated gloves there is not such a choice and most heated gloves do not have the best of protection. Perhaps they are adequate for snow mobiles, however not likely protective in the event of a motorcycle crash.
Personally I use heated liners with the best gloves available. The wires are not a problem as the harness is inside the liner of the riding jacket - if the gloves are needed, the wires are always there; out of the way but easily accessible.
Never have had a need for any other heated gear as the leathers (with wind proof zippers) & fairing offers adequate protection even in the coldest temperatures - but if need arose because of the cold the car would be preferable to all the other nonsense of layered clothing & wires and such.
Principally spending time living in the mountains of far northern California I would suggest cold riding temperatures are not unknown. As far as the "epic" or "real" motorcycling adventures, have at 'em! A 5,400 mile ride is about a loop through the Western States and not really uncommon - so calm down, relax & enjoy the ride...
I do believe that a "real" & "epic" ride was had by Mr. CaptainRon a few years ago - read his series of posts; the posts & the ride descriptions scribed there are themselves truly spectacular and an enjoyable read.
Ride safe,
Midget
Sure love my TourMaster electric vest (with collar) I never leave on a trip without it..
But, I digress....
Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 16, 2017, 11:45:51 PM
Sure love my TourMaster electric vest (with collar) I never leave on a trip without it..
But, I digress....
Uh Oh.... I'm in for it now.....!
:flag_of_truce:
Quote from: Mike Ramos on December 16, 2017, 11:27:05 PM
Heated gloves or grips or liners...
Well, now if I may add another subject not mentioned - and that is hand protection in the event of a fall.
With both the heated hand grips and heated glove liners, there is a choice of gloves. With the heated gloves there is not such a choice and most heated gloves do not have the best of protection. Perhaps they are adequate for snow mobiles, however not likely protective in the event of a motorcycle crash.
Personally I use heated liners with the best gloves available. The wires are not a problem as the harness is inside the liner of the riding jacket - if the gloves are needed, the wires are always there; out of the way but easily accessible.
Never have had a need for any other heated gear as the leathers (with wind proof zippers) & fairing offers adequate protection even in the coldest temperatures - but if need arose because of the cold the car would be preferable to all the other nonsense of layered clothing & wires and such.
Principally spending time living in the mountains of far northern California I would suggest cold riding temperatures are not unknown. As far as the "epic" or "real" motorcycling adventures, have at 'em! A 5,400 mile ride is about a loop through the Western States and not really uncommon - so calm down, relax & enjoy the ride...
I do believe that a "real" & "epic" ride was had by Mr. CaptainRon a few years ago - read his series of posts; the posts & the ride descriptions scribed there are themselves truly spectacular and an enjoyable read.
Ride safe,
Midget
I have a set of the heated liners, and I agree about the full choice of gloves. I've been slowly adding circuits to the new bike, and I've been trying to do it methodically and cleanly, with as little "rats nest" effect as I can. I looked through the different options for fuse boxes and remote relays, etc., and finally settled on two of the pre-made setups from Eastern Beaver with two switched and one unswitched circuits in each. I've installed one, which currently drives a phone charger (unswitched) and the heated grips (switched). I just didn't like the hassle of plugging into a tether or the sloppiness of a dangling wire hanging out from under the seat. I don't have to ride the bike to work. It's just a much easier commute when I do. If the forecast is sketchy, I can jump in the truck, so I prefer not to focus too much effort on heated gear. The heated grips really addressed the most prominent commuting concern I had, and I like the OEM feel and minimal aesthetic and wiring impact.
Now, I really appreciate your feedback, Mike, but it's not like you've actually put any time on the road in varying weather conditions, so I'll defer to Marty on this sort of stuff, K? :biggrin:
Understood – please except my apologies and allow me to defer to your judgement as well. Not sure how such a simple thread was distorted into such epic proportions. For real, it is a situation that is well, just simply deplorable... :rofl2:
The Little Fellow
My FJ came with Oxford grips when I bought it. The throttle grip is now twisting on the tube. What glue should I use to re-affix it?
Quote from: krusty on December 18, 2017, 04:22:30 AM
My FJ came with Oxford grips when I bought it. The throttle grip is now twisting on the tube. What glue should I use to re-affix it?
Super glue, that's what they come with. The problem you have now is getting the inside of the grip clean of any residue from whatever glue has been used and failed. The throttle tube needs to be cleaned and roughed up as well but once the grip is off that is not difficult. The new glue is unlikely to stick unless the surfaces are thoroughly cleaned of the old glue.
Choice of glue on these is not something to second guess and you only get one crack at it. Once glued, leave for 24 hours before use.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on December 18, 2017, 05:07:32 AM
Quote from: krusty on December 18, 2017, 04:22:30 AM
My FJ came with Oxford grips when I bought it. The throttle grip is now twisting on the tube. What glue should I use to re-affix it?
Super glue, that's what they come with. The problem you have now is getting the inside of the grip clean of any residue from whatever glue has been used and failed. The throttle tube needs to be cleaned and roughed up as well but once the grip is off that is not difficult. The new glue is unlikely to stick unless the surfaces are thoroughly cleaned of the old glue.
Choice of glue on these is not something to second guess and you only get one crack at it. Once glued, leave for 24 hours before use.
Noel
Thank you. I was thinking it may have been something like Bear Contact adhesive. Good thing I asked.
Better late than never I 'spose. Yesterday I finally got around to re-glueing the Oxford grips. When I pulled them off I found that a PO had been there before me. There were remains of Silastic in each and the rh side also had a piece of duct tape in it. I cleaned everything up and re-glued using superglue. All seems ok. It will get a test run on tomorrows' VJMC ride to Patonga Beach for fish & chips. I've loaned the 1200 to a mate for the day (hence the need to do the grips) and I'm taking my 84 1100.
Mate, Pete a while ago, amazed me by shooting compressed air under some grips to both remove and seat them.
I've now used my shitty compressor and air blow tool thingy to remove and replace a number of grips. I've (so far even after a good drench) not added or removed any adhesive because of this method. It works for the kids bikes too.
Compressed air, a marvellous invention (new to me).