Hi Everyone
I introduced myself about a month ago and now the work begins.
I'll post some more pictures shortly but here is where I'm at.
I've removed the ridiculous decals as suggested by many on here.
The plastics are being removed to be prepped for new paint. The tank will be next.
I found a good gas cap so I'll need to move the guts from it to mine so it will match my key.
I'm trying to diagnose why my brake light is not working. That is still a work in process as I haven't got to the bottom of that issue.
Bob
Well as I said the plastics are coming off and next will be the tank.
Here are the latest pictures of the bike. I want to solve my brake light issue before removing the tail plastic and the tank.
Bob
G'day Bob,
Good start mate.
From the images the bike looks good & straight.
I've recently completed an 11 & 12 project. As Mark said in the intro, be careful of moditis.
From my experience start with basics and get the bike on the road. Get to know it before shelling out for big ticket items.
All of the crew your way have forgotten more about the FJ than I'll ever know, so you are in good hands.
Enjoy the FJ, it will give you many years of fun.
Troyskie
Hi Bob
The brake light issue could be as simple as the switch not working. I have an issue on my FJ11 where the switch worked on the front brake, but not the switch attached to the back brake. These still seem to be readily available from most Yamaha bike dealers, or at the very least i think Randy at RPM has them.
Keep up the good work. :good2:
Mark
Mark has a good point.
On re-assembly of the 12 the rear brake switch wasn't working.
I pulled apart, contact cleaned it, re-assembled and it works.
Guys
Thanks for the input and you were right, but I didn't read your responses until this morning.
I did manage to solve the problem last night with the brake lights. Neither the front nor rear brake would activate the light so I though it was an electrical issue. However once I started investigating I found that both switches needed to be cleaned and adjusted. Now they work great.
More updates as I move the project forward.
Bob
Awesome Bob, keep us posted! I'll be reading your progress here since I also want to start my winter project on my 85.
Good to know that the breaking light issue was easy to handle. I also have this problem but only with the front brake...I'll try to disassembly it, clean it and see what happens...
Have a good weekend brother!
Hi Everyone
Starting to move the project forward. SO I've began cleaning up the frame and getting ready to touch up the paint on it.
This weekend I'm going to change the oil and filter and then remove the tank.
I've notice something odd in my opinion, The oil filter that is on it right now is a K&N 1004. Not something that I've seen referenced elsewhere here. This is a universal high flow filter that is good for Auto, 4X4 and motorcycles. Any thoughts? It has been running with this filter so at this time I'm going to replace it with the same.
Issue for this weekend, the bike has 4 into 1 exhaust so no centre stand, I have that dealt with with the stand shown, I'm going to have to drop the exhaust get at the drain plug so I've ordered exhaust gaskets.
I'll update once i get things going.
Yes that is my daily cruiser 2 wheel ride in the background.
Bob
Hi Bob nice FJ, as for the oil filter the k&n does a good job but so do many other filters without the k&n price tag! What oil are you going to put in? Russ
Quote from: FJ Bob on October 07, 2016, 07:58:51 PM
I've notice something odd in my opinion, The oil filter that is on it right now is a K&N 1004. Not something that I've seen referenced elsewhere here. This is a universal high flow filter that is good for Auto, 4X4 and motorcycles. Any thoughts? It has been running with this filter so at this time I'm going to replace it with the same.
Bob
Bob, sorry I missed this earlier.
I just looked up the specs and that filter has the 20x1.5mm thread pitch. So, as long as the seal doesn't cover the oil holes it will work fine.
You can also use a wide variety of other filters including K&N.
Randy - RPM
Guys
Thanks for the input on the oil filter. It seems to have worked and glad to hear that I should be good. I'll pay close attention when I remove it to ensure that it is not obstructing any holes.
My plan is to use Yamalube 10W40 oil. The guys at the dealer seemed to think it would be good and I don't see any need to go to synthetic with the bike. I picked up 4 exhaust gaskets today so once I've got the oil changed, exhaust painted and it is ready to go back together for the start of next season I'll put them on.
I can't wait to get this out on the road next season as it is going to be completely different from my other ride.
More to come.
Bob
Hi Everyone
Headers removed and oil changed and now gas tank is removed. A significant amount of repair work on the tank is needed. The previous owner created their own gas cap lock which was not to my liking.
Bob
Harley rider? How did we let a Harley rider on here? :rofl:
Dave
Dave
Maybe that is why I'm working on the FJ 1100!
Love my Fatboy but can't wait to get this 1984 FJ 1100 on the road to have some twisty fun!
Bob
Bob is on the road to recovery, what he does not know yet is the addiction we call FJ Moditus.
Reading through your thread, I see that you are repainting all of the body work. If you plan on owning this FJ for many many years, there is a fuel tank option that will eliminate a couple of issues. Mainly the gas cap. They are nearly impossible to locate replacements. I highly recommend locating a '86/'87 1200 fuel tank to use on your project. No modifications are required to the tank, petcock or carbs.
Fred
Just giving you a hard time Bob. Own one of those Hardly Ablesons myself. Keep us updated on your FJ project.
Dave
Fred
Thanks for the info on the 1986/87 tank substitute. I did find a good gas cap which I have to swap the guts out of into mine so hopefully that will work. I will keep an eye out for another tank though.
Dave
No problem with the HD ribbing, I ride with a group of non Harley folks and do get some good hearted teasing now and then.
More to come on the build but now I have to ready the Fatboy for winter. The joys of living in Northern Ontario.
Bob
Hi Everyone
Gas cap surgery tonight. Below is a picture of the donor and the patient. I'm pleased to report the patient survived and i now have a functional gas cap.
Bob
More progress this weekend.
Replaced the left side controls as the chock control was broken. Replacement unit went on nicely and works great.
I'm starting to fix up and sand the plastics in an effort to get then ready for new paint this winter. Also started working on the tank as the previous owner had drilled a hole in the top and placed a bolt in it to assist in securing the gas cap down ( see pic below) With the replacement gas cap working I've plugged the hole and will begin to smooth the tank for painting as well.
Lots of work to do but it is coming together nicely so far.
Bob
Hi Everyone
Been busy cleaning up the plastics and the tank getting them ready for paint.
I need to put two new tires on the bike. I don't want to turn this into another tire thread but I'd like to know from my local Ontario riders which tires they use.
More pictures shortly on the progress.
Thanks
Bob
I've used the Metzler Lasertechs BiasPly (http://www.petes-superbike.com/15080vb16-lasertec-rear-p-2090.html) but currently am on Avon Storm 3D XM Radials (http://www.petes-superbike.com/15080zr16-av66-storm-rear-p-639861.html).
The Metzlers are a decent all round tire with great mileage that are great for touring. Being bias ply they tend to be a bit skittish over the tar snakes. The Avon radials have a much smoother ride, but probably won't last as long as the Metzlers. I've only had the Avons on for this season so far but really like them.
Hi Everyone
Thanks for the info on the tires.
Here is the latest update.
Frame painted, plastics primed and below is a picture of some of the parts mocked up on the bike. I'm going to stick with matte black for all the plastics.
I have an issue that maybe someone can help with. I can seem to loosen the screws on the top of the front brake master cylinder. I've tried penetrating oil and they just won't budge and I'm almost to the point of stripping the philips heads on the screws. Any suggestions other than finding another master cylinder?
Thanks
Bob
Quote from: FJ Bob on December 02, 2016, 09:35:14 AM
Hi Everyone
Thanks for the info on the tires.
Here is the latest update.
Frame painted, plastics primed and below is a picture of some of the parts mocked up on the bike. I'm going to stick with matte black for all the plastics.
I have an issue that maybe someone can help with. I can seem to loosen the screws on the top of the front brake master cylinder. I've tried penetrating oil and they just won't budge and I'm almost to the point of stripping the philips heads on the screws. Any suggestions other than finding another master cylinder?
1) Be sure you are using JIS screwdriver.
2) Use an impact driver. Here is combo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8QxPvDBJzE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8QxPvDBJzE)
Thanks
Bob
Jscgdunn
Thanks!
That looks like the exact tool for the job. Now to find out where I can get one in Canada.
Bob
One on Amazon....this is the large one...for the master screws you would need the size (or two) down.
https://www.amazon.ca/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=jis+screwdriver&tag=msncahydra-20&index=aps&hvadid=2371279532&hvqmt=p&hvbmt=bp&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_oyohbvvzx_p (https://www.amazon.ca/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=jis+screwdriver&tag=msncahydra-20&index=aps&hvadid=2371279532&hvqmt=p&hvbmt=bp&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_oyohbvvzx_p)
jscgdunn
Any idea what size of tip I would need. I think that one on amazon is a #2
Also noticed that you Plasti dipped one of your bikes, I'm thinking that is what I'm going to do. Were you happy with the results?
Thanks
Bob
Make sure you replace the cap screws with these Allen head ones. RPM has them or you can pick them up just about anywhere. My local Brafsco gave them to me for free.
master cal cap screws (http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=AllenBrakeResevoirCapScrew)
Paul
Thanks for the tip. Once I get the screws out I'll do that.
Bob
Jscgdunn
I did some additional searching and it looks like the Vessel JIS #2 Impact Driver is the right one so it is ordered.
Again thanks for your help.
Bob
Great Day Today
My screwdriver arrived and this thing is magic. Worked like a dream and the master cylinder cover is off.
Jscgdunn thank you!
Now as Paul recommended to find some new screws.
New tires will be ordered this week and just waiting for the weather to warm so I can do the final paint job.
Spring is not far away and neither is my FJ from hitting the road.
Bob
You did manage to open it, but for future notice, usually a light taps with hammer on a screwdriver works good to break the oxides created on the threads of the screws.
Balky1
I did try the tapping with a hammer and regular screwdriver before with no success. The Vessel JIS #2 Impact Driver was the solution. Only $14.00 CDN, but took about a month to come from Japan.
Bob
OK, good thing is that you've succeeded.
Hi Everyone
I've got the new tires and I'm going to take off the wheels off the bike this weekend. Anything I should be be aware of or watch out for?
Thanks
Bob
Check condition of the cush drive
Sprockets?
Wheel bearings - If needed - buy them from an SKF or other such distributor - just bring in the old ones and they will usually have them on the shelf - maybe even the 3rd rear hub bearing (which is an oddball size) - if not, only a day or two to wait for it. Fraction of the cost of OEM.
While the rear wheel is off - remove the swingarm, shock, and linkage. A lot of grunge gets collected around it, so give everything a thorough cleaning inside and out. A lot of expensive needle bearings in there. When I bought my 92 I had to replace them all - made a huge difference in handling. Again if you need new ones go aftermarket if possible. These require pressing in and out.
Check valve stems
Drink Beer :drinks:
Quote from: FJ Bob on January 25, 2017, 08:22:55 AM
Balky1
I did try the tapping with a hammer and regular screwdriver before with no success. The Vessel JIS #2 Impact Driver was the solution. Only $14.00 CDN, but took about a month to come from Japan.
Bob
Some tools pay for themselves with the first application. Take care of it. That's a very good price too.
For general use in the future, you can pop in to a Princess Auto and look for this: http://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/9-pc-manual-impact-driver-set/A-p8311615e (http://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/9-pc-manual-impact-driver-set/A-p8311615e)
(http://images11.palcdn.com/hlr-system/WebPhotos/83/831/8311/8311615.jpg)
Unfortunately the price has gone up but it's my go to for the bike and for electronics cases since I can swap in any 1/4" hex bit I have, and I have JIS hex bits. I have had it maybe 20 years. It is palm sized, about 3/4" diameter. Pretty nice to spin screws in and out too.
LIGHT taps with a carpenter's hammer will do. Testing first by seeing the effect you get from tapping your chosen bit on to a piece of softwood isn't a bad idea. The bigger hand held impact drivers I have never see the light of day.
PaulG
Thanks for the suggestions on the other points to check while I've got the wheels off.
Definitely going to give it a thorough check while I have it apart.
Yes there will also be beer involved as well.
Bob
Well the wheels came off and I did a thorough check and cleaning of everything around the rear shock and swing arm. All is good there and on the front as well. The new tires are mounted, balanced and back on the bike.
Now I just need some warm weather to get the body parts painted and back on the bike. However, that won't likely be until early April.
Bob
Good deal Bob, on the '84/85 it is important to make sure you grease those bushings on the swing arm linkage.... :flag_of_truce:
A surface cleaning and visual inspection is not enough.
Pat
Thanks for the tip.
I did not mention it in my previous post but greased everything I could find on the swing arm, chassis, etc.
Bob
Good....You are set!
Well the painting went well and I've started to put the bike back together but have run into a bit of a snag.
The petcock appears to be leaking from around the valve. It leaks leaks in both positions but more in the on position. I took it apart and could not see anything to indicate a problem. I suspect that maybe leaving the petcock off the tank all winter might have resulted in the seals drying out and thus now my leak.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what might be the problem and if there is a solution?
Thanks
Bob
If your petcock is original it has been in service for over 30 years. Considering that it holds back a very flammable liquid, it might be time for a new one.
FJmonkey
You make great points and I completely agree.
I'll get a new one from Randy and then I should be good for another 30 years.
Thanks
Bob
Hi Everyone
Well ordered and received a new petcock within 10 days to Canada. The new one is installed and works great. A big thanks to Randy at RPM for your help with this.
The bike is back together, I washed it yesterday and took a couple of pics (below).
Now I just have to get it to a dealer to be certified and get it on the road. Hopefully that will happen next week as I really want to get it out.
Will post some pics once I get it out on the open road.
Bob
Very nicely done. :good: :hi: :drinks:
Fred
Looks really good - like the paint job. Another 84 gets back on the road!
Hi Everyone
This will bring an end to this build (for now). I've had the bike on the road for about a week but have only managed about 200 KM as the weather has not been great. I took it out for a short ride tonight and took a couple of pictures shown below.
A big thanks to everyone on the board for the support to get this bike back on the road.
Although I've only managed a few KMs so far this is one fun bike and looking forward to getting some serious saddle time over the summer.
Also hope to meet up this some of the other FJ owners in Ontario at some of the events this summer.
Bob
All you need to complete the look is one of these and some crispy chest hairs. :good2: See you sometime this summer. :drinks:
PaulG
Yes that might complete the look of the bike nicely but the grey chest hairs will not.
Hope to catch up with you and others over the summer.
Bob