Anybody else seeing advertising posts under the name FJowners.com?
Not sure what you mean? Spamming on here? Or someone using the FJowners.com in their advertising?
I am seeing advertising links in every other post, in every topic. Noticed it today on me work computer and still seeing it here at home.
that kinda rules out it coming from my end.
the author of each post is shown as FJowners.com
Within the body of the post?
I'm not seeing it, wherever it is.
I saw some crap the other day too. I think someone hacked in somehow.
Take a screen shot so we can see what you are seeing.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/10/171_21_07_16_11_07_16.png)
this is what I got - but had to log out to see it.
I will check with Randy but I think that is normal for non-member status.
I also started to see them recently. Google ads.
Quote from: FJmonkey on July 22, 2016, 12:34:23 AM
I will check with Randy but I think that is normal for non-member status.
I thought being a $ Contributor was what got rid of those ads?
make sure you are logged in with your username account, and not just viewing as a guest.
You might have been logged out somehow?
Quote from: fj1289 on July 22, 2016, 10:12:08 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on July 22, 2016, 12:34:23 AM
I will check with Randy but I think that is normal for non-member status.
I thought being a $ Contributor was what got rid of those ads?
I spoke with Randy and the forum is working properly. We currently have 211 contributing members as of March of this year. An option to avoid adds every year is to Subscribe with an amount you are comfortable with. You will find this at the bottom of every post page.
So... in essence we are no longer members... we are profit centers.
Good Bye.
If that's how you feel, we don't need you. That being said, thanks for the reminder. Annual contribution made.This site is easily as or more valuable to me than any motorcycle magazine subscription. Thanks for keeping the site going Randy!
Zwartie
Quote from: the fan on July 22, 2016, 03:00:41 PM
So... in essence we are no longer members... we are profit centers.
Good Bye.
Hasn't the disclaimer always been there, on the login page? I mean, ALWAYS?
"Help (Randy, Marsh) support the hosting costs of this website - ANY amount helps!
(also removes outside vendor ads from website)"
That's why I contribute, this shit isn't free. I was floored to read for fjmonkey that there are only 211 contributors out of the close to 5000 members. My math isn't very good but that would about 2 or 3% support this website I doubt any member could ever be considered a profit center.
Quote from: copper on July 23, 2016, 01:19:32 PM
That's why I contribute, this shit isn't free. I was floored to read for fjmonkey that there are only 211 contributors out of the close to 5000 members. My math isn't very good but that would about 2 or 3% support this website I doubt any member could ever be considered a profit center.
Exactly... it's definitely
not free. :pardon:
Speaking strictly as a member, I think it was a bit short sighted of Bill (the fan) to take that point of view. His posts are always of value,and he'll be missed.
Just for clarification the number of contributing members at 211 are based on contributors since last March or May (I remember the month started with an "M"). The way it was originally set up, a member could contribute $1 and get "Contributor" status indefinitely.
Due to the recent number of page hits, Randy has had to upgrade the hosting package and now pays 33% more to keep this forum up and running. Remember when it was down a little while ago? That was due to this site exceeding the allowable traffic. So Randy is not trying to make a profit from contributions, he just does not want to loose money to keep it going.
It is unfortunate if we loose members because the "free" part includes adds. However it is still free. If you don't want to see the adds or feel that a small amount every year is a good return for the value you get every time you log in, then contribute what is comfortable for you. If you don't want to remember to contribute every year then set up an annual contribution. There is no pressure here, chose what works for you and stick around the digital FJ campfire. S'mores or red cap anyone? Where did that potato cannon go? I want to see if will launch a Thermite ball.
I think everyone is jumping the gun a ltttle here. I wes on the site the other day and noticed some advertising that Randy would NOT ENDORSE. I believe that is what "the fan" is referring to. Not regular advertising. Somehow , someone placed ads. I don't want to pick sides or cause a fight but .... I think "the fan" is referring to the same things I saw. Not the regular RPM adverts.
Quote from: fj johnnie on July 23, 2016, 08:10:02 PM
I think everyone is jumping the gun a ltttle here. I wes on the site the other day and noticed some advertising that Randy would NOT ENDORSE. I believe that is what "the fan" is referring to. Not regular advertising. Somehow , someone placed ads. I don't want to pick sides or cause a fight but .... I think "the fan" is referring to the same things I saw. Not the regular RPM adverts.
The contributor status will only allow the RPM banner add the top. If you do not have contributor status then other adds (RPM or other) may appear in posts.
so I shouldn't have seen other ads right?
Quote from: fj johnnie on July 23, 2016, 09:34:27 PM
so I shouldn't have seen other ads right?
Are you seeing adds other than the RPM banner at the top? If so then please post a screen shot. As a contributing member you should not see any other adds.
Thank you for your effort in helping sort this out. All efforts and help from members will improve this forum. Things are a bit new and getting things back on center takes some time.
Since this thread started, I have not seen any second party adds when browsing posts whether I am logged on or not.
Fred
Quote from: the fan on July 22, 2016, 03:00:41 PM
So... in essence we are no longer members... we are profit centers.
Good Bye.
A bit sensitive?
It would seem as if the "ad has hit the fan" :lol:
I too, see random ads among posts when I'm not logged in...but I can't imagine they are bothersome to most. I think there was a thread on this a while back and when reading this forum on some particular device or in some particular way, the ads took over the screen? I dunno...I've never seen it. :unknown:
When I'm logged in, I just get the RPM banner ad. When I was very new here, people would often reply with, "just call Randy"...Ummm...After a while you figure out who Randy is...and why he's the go-to guy for a lot of our FJ needs...but in the beginning, I had no idea how to find him. For that reason and to my way of thinking, the banner ad is most appropriate here.
Quote from: Capn Ron on July 24, 2016, 03:29:22 PM
When I'm logged in, I just get the RPM banner ad. When I was very new here, people would often reply with, "just call Randy"...Ummm...After a while you figure out who Randy is...and why he's the go-to guy for a lot of our FJ needs...but in the beginning, I had no idea how to find him. For that reason and to my way of thinking, the banner ad is most appropriate here.
Which is why, for the longest time, I quit signing my posts.
My PM box was filling up with part requests... :pardon:
I have not seen the adds but, I always log on with my laptop, so this always has me signed in.
Randy bought the site from Marsh. We all need to be thankful to Marsh for starting this site and to Randy for keeping it going!!! This site could have been shut down and we would see nothing. It's better to put up with a few ads, than to have no forum at all.
I want to thank Randy for keeping the forum up and running and if some changes need to be made, so be it.
You may feel differently. This is the way I see it.
Kurt
Quote from: yamaha fj rider on July 24, 2016, 11:06:06 PM
I want to thank Randy for keeping the forum up and running and if some changes need to be made, so be it.
Kurt
+1 :good2:
Quote from: copper on July 23, 2016, 01:19:32 PM
That's why I contribute, this s _ _ t isn't free. I was floored to read for fjmonkey that there are only 211 contributors out of the close to 5000 members. My math isn't very good but that would about 2 or 3% support this website I doubt any member could ever be considered a profit center.
Interesting - this I never knew.
Now there are 212 contributors... money order is on its' way.
Thanks to RPM & the site moderators.
Midget
Just be aware that the default "Options" in the contribution area at the bottom of the page is set to "Every Year." If you don't change it to "One Time" it sets up a recurring debit on your card or paypal.
That's fine if that's what you want to do but if you want to make a one off contribution, you need to change it.
Noel
Done.
Don't feed the troll.
Rest assured, He will be dealt with in the appropriate manner.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on July 26, 2016, 10:31:49 PM
Rest assured, He will be dealt with in the appropriate manner.
I completely agree with the sentiment expressed by Copper (but not necessarily the manner in which he expressed it :biggrin:) about derogatory anonymous posts, it's childish. If you're not happy about something to the point of feeling you need to say so, have the balls to put your name to it.
While it was an unnecessary post, it's hardly offensive. You can burn him at the stake for all I care but I am curious to know what transgression he's committed be "
dealt with in the appropriate manner"
This policing action appears to be without precedent.
Noel
Hey guys, where's the "spell check" gone?
Noel
Noel, I'm curious too...
Quote from: Pat Conlon on July 27, 2016, 01:57:38 AM
Noel, I'm curious too...
Pat, Anyone who can use the appropriate "too" needs no spell check!
Harvy
Quote from: ribbert on July 27, 2016, 12:49:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on July 26, 2016, 10:31:49 PM
Rest assured, He will be dealt with in the appropriate manner.
I completely agree with the sentiment expressed by Copper (but not necessarily the manner in which he expressed it :biggrin:) about derogatory anonymous posts, it's childish. If you're not happy about something to the point of feeling you need to say so, have the balls to put your name to it.
While it was an unnecessary post, it's hardly offensive. You can burn him at the stake for all I care but I am curious to know what transgression he's committed be "dealt with in the appropriate manner"
This policing action appears to be without precedent.
Noel
Maybe this (you'll have to log out to see the link):
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Okay, I have resolved the issue and deleted the majority of the posts associated with it.
Obviously the account was created to create an issue with me, my business and now the owner of the forum; no other reason. Unfortunately the person who created the account is not a stand-up kind of guy to properly handle his displeasure. Maybe if he would have made a true post, sent me a PM or email I would have liked to have know what his issue is. But to just create a post to degradate/slander will not be tolerated.
I will have the same action if another "new" member pops up that says (add name here)Sucks. I will take all of those as a cowardly attack and they will be deleted.
If someone has a problem, please let someone know. We have a new moderation team that have the ability to address issues. If they cannot address the issue, they can bring it to my attention so the member does not have to address me directly. I would hope everyone would have enough courtesy to do at least that before starting a "new" member that is inappropriate.
As far as the spell check, I will check into it, I did not even notice it was gone.
Randy - RPM
Overall, I don't understand the hostility toward advertising on a web forum - especially for a very modest payment I can make it go way. I don't even get that choice when I pay a lot more to see a movie, watch cable TV, drive on a road (paid for with tax $$), buy a magazine, etc. In all those cases I'm paying to receive the advertising - and don't have an option to remove the advertising. When did it get to be such an issue on the web? Especially if it is not "chasing" me on the screen or covering up the posts or directing me another window? :flag_of_truce:
In my opinion, this is boiling down to the age old issues of: "You can't please everyone all the time", "Not everyone will always agree", and "What is reasonable?".
In dealing with these issues, transparency is often the best recourse; and I thank you Randy for sharing with us your reasoning for making the changes you did. Obviously, many of us are comfortable with them, whereas others aren't. I would just ask everyone, that before you decide to leave the forum, please make sure that your making a reasonable decision (based on your beliefs and values), and not a rash one.
Quote from: FeralRdr on July 29, 2016, 01:00:13 PM
please make sure that your making a reasonable decision (based on your beliefs and values), and not a rash one.
... great advice for most any situation. I think Brexit and our current fiasco of an election indicate more reaction than reasonable decision making. Responses are always best reasoned out and, if possible, tested with a bit of feedback from others. Here's my feedback on the subject:
This community is a treasure of friendship and information I'd gladly pay for even if there was a mandatory minimum donation (hint). I did think that once Randy took over the forum maybe it wouldn't require donations... but the economics (thanks Randy for laying it out) don't make that work out too well. Randy could have made the forum cost part of RPM overhead and baked it into the pricing of his parts, but he's too honest and forthright for that kind of trick. Instead he spells it out and admits he's going to keep it going regardless of the group's contributions.
Thanks Randy for your support of these fine machines and their fine owners. I'll continue to enjoy my ad free experience...
Frank