Well I know it's on my FZ1 but it has to start some where, Cleaned and lubed the chain today (it's annual cleaning :wacko1:). I used the cleaner and brush they have on sale at Cycle gear the brush works like a champ :good2:
I piled a couple of things on the seat (on top of the cover) on the way to the coupe to try my new 7 tpi lead file. I love getting new tools. It was -4 here today with snow in the forcast. :dash2:
No riding for awhile around the CO rockies. Wish I could haul it to SoCal for spring break.
On the other hand, we had 2" of fresh powder ON EVERY RUN skiing last weekend.
Bled my new clutch line, using reverse fluid injection. Used a syringe to push about 60cc of fluid into the slave bleeder screw, perfect lever on the first pull!
14" of wet snow here today, I guess it isn't spring yet.
Now some one has to be doing somthing to there FJs Polish wheels, spit shine the paint , change the oil,
oggle over there new parts taking it out for a ride in sub0 weather. Somthing. :dash2:
Bled the front brakes, snapped off the lever on my new R1 master trying to adjust the angle a bit. Glad I found that weak point before trying a panic stop. Bought new plugs. Trying to avoid starting her just to hear that lovely noise if I can't actually ride. I would ride in the cold, but the sun came out and melted all the snow after raining all night, made the road into 6" of mud. Maybe if it freezes I'll go for it!
Just put on the new 3.5 front wheel, I wonder if I will be able to feel the difference. A good carb clean is next has been sitting because of all the rain here in So Cal. and me working too much :negative:
LA Mike
Ordered a new exhaust system today. Scavenged parts of the fj's old exhaust to fix the truck, in the rain :mad:. Removed lower fairing in anticipation of new system. Immediately threw the screws out in the yard to save my self the effort of loosing them later. :yes:
Ordered a super brace. Hopefully a worthwhile mod. Hey if nothing else it's shiny. :wacko3:
Mike
rode it
I am waiting on a 50W HID hi/lo and a new touring screen to arrive.
It has been/is pissing down here so not much riding- don't want to tempt fate-
I did however polish the alloy!!!!!
Replaced the rear tire and rear brake pads.
That takes care of any other "fun" purchases this week.
Arnie
Quote from: Mike 86 in San Dimas on February 28, 2010, 02:37:18 PM
Ordered a super brace. Hopefully a worthwhile mod. Hey if nothing else it's shiny. :wacko3:
Mike
They are a cool bit of billet. A little known fact: the dimensions for the FJ Superbrace were measured by caliper on my 89 FJ. So, needless to say, they fit my FJ perfectly when I had the stock forks!
Did the music on the website scare you?
replaced rear brake pads....had to drain the back brakes completely... bloody double piston callipers!!! chuckles... now all i have to do is replace all parker lights as they are blown, work out why im losing oil, put new tyres on it, fix the crack in the belly pan, change the fork oil,change the steering stem bearings and chain and sprockets ( 18 mm in two spots 30 in others :mad:) and then do the starter chain . lots to be said for being lazy and poor, but with the new job might be able to afford these things. :blush:
Marsh, I was only looking at the Superbrace site yesterday to see if they have one for FZ1 1st Gen....... (they do!).......did not realise they are one of your customers.
Harvy
Quote from: Mike 86 in San Dimas on February 28, 2010, 02:37:18 PM
Ordered a super brace. Hopefully a worthwhile mod. Hey if nothing else it's shiny. :wacko3:
Mike
I have a superbrace on the front of my FJ. As I bought her with it, I couldn't tell you if there is a difference. However, this FJ is the most stable handling FJ I have had out of three. But by stable it is also slower handling, not as flickable. But another variable is this FJ has a Michelin Pilot on the front, a tire I have never had before. Until I get a Dunlop on her, I will not really know.
CraigO
90FJ1200
Quote from: craigo on March 01, 2010, 10:55:46 AM
Quote from: Mike 86 in San Dimas on February 28, 2010, 02:37:18 PM
Ordered a super brace. Hopefully a worthwhile mod. Hey if nothing else it's shiny. :wacko3:
Mike
I have a superbrace on the front of my FJ. As I bought her with it, I couldn't tell you if there is a difference. However, this FJ is the most stable handling FJ I have had out of three. But by stable it is also slower handling, not as flickable. But another variable is this FJ has a Michelin Pilot on the front, a tire I have never had before. Until I get a Dunlop on her, I will not really know.
CraigO
90FJ1200
you can easily change that handling by installing a set of shorter dogbones on the rear shock linkage to raise the rear of the bike.
KOokaloo!
Frank
That, and a new set of tires. It always amazes me how much more flickable my bike becomes with new shoes -which of course speaks to how squared off I let the previous set get before changing...
Dan
I rode my bike to work today. We both needed it. :)
Rain returns tomorrow, so she'll sit for a while longer.
Quote from: pdxfj on March 01, 2010, 02:41:08 PM
I rode my bike to work today. We both needed it. :)
Rain returns tomorrow, so she'll sit for a while longer.
Just shy of 6 inches from 9am yesterday thru to 6am today.........don't talk to me about rain!
Harvy
Quote from: Harvy on March 01, 2010, 03:07:41 PM
Quote from: pdxfj on March 01, 2010, 02:41:08 PM
I rode my bike to work today. We both needed it. :)
Rain returns tomorrow, so she'll sit for a while longer.
Just shy of 6 inches from 9am yesterday thru to 6am today.........don't talk to me about rain!
Harvy
Aww C'mon now Harvey. We here in SoCal pay extra not to suffer those wintery conditions. So while you may have a shorter riding season, I'll bet you my property taxes are as high as your mortgage. :dash1: And in the mountains where the twisties are, we do get snow as well. But that didn't stop the wife and I from taking a 100 mile ride the other day in 70 degree weather.... MMMmmmm, nice :good2:
CraigO
90FJ1200
CraigO.......not winter for me.......that was the first day of autumn (fall) here in Aus....and I live in Queensland on the Sunshine Coast...... all that rain was from a monsoon low that has reach further south than has been the norm for a few years now.
We got our March average in that 1 day!......and its been raining non stop since I posted.......somewhere up over the 9 inch mark now.
Don't get me wrong....I'm not scared of getting wet while riding, but this is crazy, the roads look more like rivers, and the rivers........well put it this way.........out west they have all merged into a fairly decent sized sea.
Harvy
Received my front fork springs from Racetek today. Guess that means I'll have to install them someday. Can someone recommend a bolt on replacement rear shock for my 86? I not much of wrencher and have seen a lot of calculations done by others to determine spring sizes and all. I don't want to think that hard (over my actually). I have read much of the posts on rear shocks but got a little dazed. I'm short and fat, weigh 190 pounds, not a racer, but do enjoy the twisties at my old fart pace.
This subject line was great idea!
Thanks guys,
Mike
Rode it midcoast Maine, in early march, 48 degrees, ( global warming ain't all bad)
Bob W.
QuoteWhat did you do to your bike today?
Sat on it in the garage and made motor noises with my mouth.
rode my bike today like i do every day rain hail or shine sleet snow or rampant cagers. i sympathise with you harvey having lived in (d)ipswich when it rains it floods up there. and heyi ll get those wheels to you i ll get orjanised soon been working 10 hour days refurbing longwall mining equipment ( hating 2 inch hose at the moment :mad:) am working throug the weekend night shift but will get you all the dimensions and do it sorry for being a slack arse.If its any consolation they are warm and dry stored safely in the garage. :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry:
Don't get me wrong....I'm not scared of getting wet while riding, but this is crazy, the roads look more like rivers, and the rivers........well put it this way.........out west they have all merged into a fairly decent sized sea.
Harvy
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Damn Harvey,
Didn't know that it rained like that there. So much for the Sunshine Coast. Looks like you and Andy will be sitting in the garage on the bikes making motor noises instead of riding. :crazy:
CraigO
90FJ1200
Pulled the trigger on a Corbin gunfighter seat. Purchased from a fellow FJ forum member (apparently sold the FJ though). Hope to see it in on the door step in a week or two. Thanks again Steve.
His bike was an 89 mine is an 86. Best I can tell it should work. If someone knows better please let me know.
Mike
Bled the brakes on the 9 today, cleaned the garage, and went for a little ride. Forgot just how much fun that was!
Installed D & D exhaust today, easy peasy. And as a bonus, I can actually get at the oil drain plug!. Thanks for the advise on getting the quiet street muffler. It is loud and I like it! Are all performance mufflers strait through, as in read a newspaper looking through it? Maybe I'll ride it tomorrow, supposed to be in the upper 40's with sun.
Drove 800 miles round trip to Oklahoma City and back for the priviledge of paying over $200 in towing and storage fees to get back the trailer that was stolen in December. Unfortunately none of the parts or tools have been recovered -- don't really expect to see them again. Then again, I didn't expect to get the trailer back either...
Anyone live near nowhere (Clovis NM) need a 6x12 covered tailer? Good deal on a nearly new one or on a well used one... :sarcastic:
First ride of the season, 40's and sun. Cold. Warmed by the sound of the new exhaust though. Had a bit of a problem in the soft mud of the dirt driveway, but no oops and no mud on the bike.
Finally moved the bike from the basement to the garage. So far for the off season, I have:
- Replaced the rear tire, brake rotor, chain and sprockets, and rear brake pads.
- Had a run through the Mikuni Brothers.
- Added a sweet Ram mount for my Garmin GPS, and a direct wiring harness for it.
- Did the motor mount maintenance everybody recommends (I hope that it kills the vibration from 3k - 5.5k).
- Removed and repainted some of the tattier bits (bar ends, grab handles, brake & clutch levers. Maybe some more pieces if it doesn't warm up soon).
- Changed the oil, flushed the brake and clutch fluids. I still need to change the fork oil.
- Did the headlight relay modification.
I'm still trying to figure out the carb adjustment. I'm using a Morgan Carbtune, but I just don't think I'm getting it down. It starts better than ever, but the idle is choppy and the revs come down slowly on the blip test. Fortunately, although the weather has been warming up here, we're still at least 3-4 weeks out from "good" riding weather. I swear that it snowed almost all of January; we saw about 48" total for the season. There's now so much sand and grit on the streets that you might confuse Minneapolis with a snowy Saudi Arabia. I'll have to wait it out a little longer, but it gives me a few more weeks to get things sorted.
I've got an idea for a tool to make the motor mount maintenance a little easier. I managed to "engineer" a tool which let me use air tools to do the job quickly and with minimal effort, but it's ugly. I'm going to draw something up this week and see if I can't talk one of the machinists into a little government project...
Moved it from one side of the garage to the other
Changed brake fluid in both master cylinders, changed the motor oil, checked tire pressure.
Put in fresh gas, opened garage door. Rain mixed with snow. Maybe tomorrow.
Dropped YZF wheels off on Saturday to have new BT021s mounted up. Waiting phone call to pick up so I can begin mock up of Racetech prepped YZF forks with .95kg springs and emulators, '05 FZ1 front calipers and master cylinder and 05 FZ1 rear shock to go with wheel upgrade. Awaiting delivery of Corbin seat and back rest recently won from e-bay.
My VTR has become quite the ebay special it self. Spent Sunday installing Givi touring screen, framesliders, mirror extenders and heavy bar end weights all sourced from ebay at very reasonable prices. Still waiting for Sargent seat and stock turn signals. This is going to be my daily ride until FJ is done or I decide to bring my FZ1, which is currenlty staying with family, back fom Texas after a week of riding in January. Northeast winters are getting old. Maybe I'll leave the bike there and ship myself back there!
Fired her up and went for a ride! First time out of the garage since November.
What a wonderful machine! :yahoo:
Bought more brake parts in a desperate attempt to get her mobile for the Northeast FJ RALLY! Well OK she's mobile, I just don't have the balls to run without brakes. Tread would be helpful too. Rode my CB700SC today to get a small fix for my kookaloo jones.
took the cover off, put the cover back on :blush:
Didn't ride it today - too hot.
Tomorrow: 37 degrees C.
Tomorrow, 38C, Friday 39C.
i have to work on my kick stand switch tonight, does anyone else know the wire is routed different in 89 than older bikes?
there is no tabs on the frame where the 85's and 86's are.
:dance2: well Bill you will just have to sit in the shade and have a nice cold beer, did you get that fairing on?
Sit in the shade, have more than one cold beer, Dave!
Fairing arrived yesterday, from the UK, as did the belly pan, and a couple of other bits.
Needs a polish, but will look good once again when finished.
Tomorrow, off to the Ulysses AGM in Albany (on the ZRX) for the last few days.
i put on some new blinkers :yahoo:
Quote from: billwest on March 11, 2010, 04:22:46 AM
Tomorrow, off to the Ulysses AGM in Albany (on the ZRX) for the last few days.
ride safe young fella and watch out for all the old farts :biggrin:
Quote from: billwest on March 11, 2010, 04:22:46 AM
Sit in the shade, have more than one cold beer, Dave!
Fairing arrived yesterday, from the UK, as did the belly pan, and a couple of other bits.
Needs a polish, but will look good once again when finished.
Tomorrow, off to the Ulysses AGM in Albany (on the ZRX) for the last few days.
Bill, look up my cousin and his wife (Mark and Sue Holman).......they will be in attendance.
Harvy
Started it! Finally getting close to getting it back on the road again! :good2:
Back to a stock motor and stock carbs with Factory jet kit, but at least she's almost whole again! :drinks:
On my "other FJ (86)" put the head back on the engine, timed the cams, and adjusted the valves. Will pull the pan next weekend and clean it out, then reinstall the lump back in the frame.
well sunday I rode it. then pulled the front wheel .
today I visited George and he swapped the tire off the fj rim onto the fzr wheel.
tomorrow is another day.
Installed my stainless braided brakelines. Aligned and tightened the back wheel. (Still have to check chain tightness (DOH!)) Put the tank on, put the seat on and fired that puppy up. Flabbergasted that after sitting unused several months in a freezing storage unit the battery wasn't cactus and actually cranked the lump over pretty good.
Took it for a gentle ride down the road, deafening the neighbours. Rode back to the storage and installed the mufflers. Rode back out again for a quick blast in front of the facility. MMMmmmmMMMMm that felt good. :shout:
Left to do: Fix the fork seals. (groan) Get new tyres. Check valve clearances. Acquire and install front wheel guards. Attach windshield. Get some fiberglass and resin to fix the multitude of cracks/breaks on the fairing. Take to it with a brush and soap and water.
Quote from: Harvy on March 11, 2010, 04:42:12 PM
Bill, look up my cousin and his wife (Mark and Sue Holman).......they will be in attendance.
Harvy
Yep, saw them!
I watched the parade on Saturday morning, around 2500 bikes.
If they had dinner in the big tent that night, I would have talked to them. I talked to everyone.......
Installed the 3rd speedometer today along with a new cable and drive. If it fails again I'm going to a bicycle computer :dash2:
Also repaired a few cracks in the fairing.
I changed the oil and filter, installed new exhaust gaskets, tighten chain, and installed new front and rear tires. I was running the Pirelli Diablo Stradas', which I was able to get over 10,000 miles on, and now I am running Pirelli Angels'. The Angel is said to be an improved Strada. I will post thought's of tire in the review section.
Later.....
Finished up getting the fairing put back together. Fired up on the second try. :good: Nice ride home, first since Dec. 4th. :biggrin:
My Corbin gunfighter arrived today. :yahoo: It's cool. Although a lower seat height, the width does get me more on my toes at a stop (just like I was warned). But being a munchkin, that's my life. I do like the feel on the road. Harder seat and feel a little more vibration than the stock saddle. Look forward to getting some highway miles on it. I bought it used from a post here and like the seller said, it was like new. Made the trip from Connecticut to So. Cal. in tact.
Mike
Jim did it work
Replaced the stock shock with a penske sport shock. Dissasembled the forks -- changed the bushings and fork seals and installed a set of race tech emulators--thanks to directions from the group. Waiting for a bottom half front fender and meter lens to come in from Zanottis before I can finish getting it all back together and try it out.
New front pilot power 2CT, EK chain and Pro grips. Taking some measurements for new dogbones. Of course after a week of sun it started snowing this morning, grrr.
spray bombed motor and header pipes with hi-temp semigloss black. In the process found that my gas tank was leaking at the fuel filter bracket where PO had JB welded a tear at the base of the bracket. removed old jB weld and applied new JB weld. attempted to replace fuel lines but had the wrong size OD fuel line. Torqued misc nuts and bolts while I've got the fairings off.
Replaced messy horn relay wiring.
Ordered new battery gauge to replace the one that died (only lasted four years).
http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.ProductDetail/IMID/872 (http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.ProductDetail/IMID/872)
Replaced broken LED wiring; replaced H3 bulbs with LED bulbs.
Checked valve clearance.
Cleaned & polished all the shiny bits.
Cleaned very fussy brakes
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I just picked up the seat from Seatmaster Upholstery. Absolutely beautiful! I'll post pics later. Got the Corbin seat recovered with alligator and smooth leather. Looks nice! Kirk is the best for custom seats in Louisville, KY. $150.00 and delivered on time. I don't know if I can post his phone number or not, but if you want information send me a P.M. and I will forward the address and phone number. He has a pattern for the Corbin seat and turn around is fairly fast. I also had some additional padding built in so the wife will quit complaining so much on the long ride.
Quote from: yamahopper on March 22, 2010, 01:57:49 PM
I also had some additional padding built in so the wife will quit complaining so much on the long ride.
Good luck with that. Let us know if it works. I think the best place for the extra padding is inside your helmet over your ears :-)
Actually the best way to stop her complaining is to encourage her to learn to ride and get her own bike. Then she'll have the same enjoyment on the ride and not get bored concentrating on her bottom.
Cheers,
Arnie
Good luck with that. Let us know if it works. I think the best place for the extra padding is inside your helmet over your ears :-) :music:
I guess I forgot to mention that a prescription for Valium came along with it. Now I have to wear a rain suit because of all of the drool. :wacko3:
Installed YZF600 rear wheel on Sunday. Next is to play with differnet front sprockets to get chain alignment right. Also have YZF600 front end to install with FZ1 calipers, master cylinder and rear shock. Look forward to finished product.
I rode it - again - same as yesterday and the day before etc - after all, isn't that what it's meant for? :sarcastic:
Ned
Pushed it across the street from its winter home..(my good friends comfy shop)..to my garage. Checked all the fluids, tire pressure, put the battery in and hit the starter. She fired up and settled into a nice smooth idle. Into the house to put the gear on and go for the first ride of the season. Gawd that felt great... :yahoo:
Another riding season is upon us. On my list to do, replace leaky fork seals, polish/buff lower fork legs, mount new fork brace with protectors on it,(thanks Perry). Also just finished polishing FZR front wheel. Now its off to get powder-coated and mount new Pilot Roads. Then maybe work on the hugger, lower fairing, replace rear master,(thanks Pete), probable clean and sync carbs again...its just so much fun... :good:
Cheers...Jake
Installed the new battery, and in the realm of was this really necessary, :unknown: checked voltage of new battery =12.8, checked voltage of 6 year old battery= 14.6....wtf..... Then tested voltage with bike running at high idle 14.6 drops back to 12.8 when at normal idle. Going for a ride now, will test new battery again when I return.
Quote from: jamesearthdrum on April 04, 2010, 02:45:02 PM
Installed the new battery, and in the realm of was this really necessary, :unknown: checked voltage of new battery =12.8, checked voltage of 6 year old battery= 14.6....wtf.....
Was it a lead acid battery? If so, the battery only is at 80% of it's charge after adding the acid. You are meant to top them off with a charger before using them.
Bought the paint to finish the chin faring repair yesterday. Ouch.. $$$
Finishing up the '86 and I hope to get it to the new owner soon. The garage is a bit cramped with three bikes.
Quote from: Marsh White on April 04, 2010, 03:42:07 PM
Quote from: jamesearthdrum on April 04, 2010, 02:45:02 PM
Installed the new battery, and in the realm of was this really necessary, :unknown: checked voltage of new battery =12.8, checked voltage of 6 year old battery= 14.6....wtf.....
Was it a lead acid battery? If so, the battery only is at 80% of it's charge after adding the acid. You are meant to top them off with a charger before using them.
Westco AGM. Put it on the trickle charger over night as instructed. Voltage was up slightly after a ride. I think it's fine. What I didn't check was the draw on the old battery when starting. With new battery volts drop to 10 then come right back up once running. I 'll check it again next week end to see where it"s at.
Removed forks. Now to rebuild with emulators. While the bike is half naked I'll think of a few other things to spruce up.
Mike
Quote from: Mike 86 in San Dimas on April 10, 2010, 10:14:36 PM
Removed forks. Now to rebuild with emulators. While the bike is half naked I'll think of a few other things to spruce up.
Mike
Mike, you did not say you already had the forks removed. Send me one of the A/D units to copy the shape and bolt pattern for the block-off plates.
I will remove and get it to you. Maybe I can hand it off to you during lunch. I can usually get away. One of the mounting tabs is missing from my front fender so need to mend that. Just discovered that a few minutes ago, hoping I can find the piece. Of course want to get the bike back together sooner than later. Saw your PM. Send me another if I can see you at lunch early this week.
Thanks,
Mike
Rode it home from Willville campground in southwestern Va.
Eric M
Walked past it while the four inches of rain we got yesterday and the day before washed away!!
Finally got the 89 road ready again!
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/171_25_04_10_12_43_03_0.jpeg)
"New" engine from a 90, back to stock carbs (for now – RIP Keihin FCRs), a Frankenstein Supertrapp to replace the missing Kerker White Tip, replaced the missing side scoops, and cleaned up a lot of the wiring mods (removed most of the added-on drag race stuff – shifter, kill box and data logger).
Still haven't ridden it yet, so don't know how 2nd gear is, etc.
Side story – the carbs gave me a new challenge. Completely rebuilt them, added a Factory jet kit (including returning the carbs to "stock" from the previously installed Dynojet parts). The bike would only start and run on the "choke" – would not idle at all or accept any throttle. Went through the carbs again to make sure I didn't goof something up. First thought the issue was the idle speed setting being WAY OFF from the complete tear down. No dice. Then figured the idle mixture was way off. Worked from 5 turns out to 1/2 turn out – still no luck. I'm at 4300' here, so thought maybe the pilot system was way off since the Factory kit replaces the stock 37.5 pilot jet with a 42.5 (also recommend an optional 45.0 if you need it richer!). Didn't think this would keep it from idling since you can usually compensate with the idle mixture and at least get it to idle (the tip-in to 1/8 throttle would probably still be off though). I put the stock 37.5 pilots in and it runs!!! I then looked at the 42.5's, and it looks like they were not drilled to size! Looks like only a VERY SMALL hole was drilled through (looks more like a 12.5 than a 42.5!) – almost like a centering hole was drilled, but never opened up to the proper size! That's a new one on me.
Time for this!
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That thing just looks badass.
I like it.
Randy T
Indy
Quote from: rktmanfj on April 25, 2010, 04:14:05 PM
That thing just looks badass.
It DOES look badass - there is a MadMax quality to it.
Thanks guys :drinks:
That picture took very well - i.e., doesn't show all the rough spots! It's had a pretty hard life - even before I bought it in pieces 10 years ago now. The bodywork had a "custom" gloss black paint job with red "wing" design on the tank - beautiful paint, crap prep work. Had a large buble in the paint on the tank about 2 inches accross that broke loose and started to rust. Strapped for $$, out came the sand paper, primer, and flat black paint! A few years later Ducati, then Harley and Honda started painting them that way on purpose! When I first met my wife, she used to be after me to get a real paint job for it (she like the blue on the R1's then). Now she says I can't paint it, because that's who I am.
The black supertrapp worked better than I thought it would. The header was bought off eBay - was ceramic coated but never installed. The guy "thought" it was a supertrapp -- I figured it was probably a kerker. It is a supertrapp though - a dead ringer for the stainless header I bought later. Then, cruising eBay, saw something for the dragbike - then noticed it was from a salvage yard I used to get parts from when I was in high school. Looked around to see what they had (while imagining I was 17 and walking around there myself) and saw a new supertrapp muffler but they didn't know what the application was. Took a chance, and with a 2 1/2 to 2 1/2 pipe adapter from Autozone, it was a perfect fit. I like it now better than the kerker white tip I had on it. More discs have been ordered of course... Think the stainless system will be in the parts section soon...
Finally replaced the busted up fairing (courtesy of some young thing in a little yellow car forcing #3 son onto the median strip and crashing) with one I imported from the UK. Replaced front fender (rear part, closest to the exhausts - hope it doesn't deform again).
Getting closer to a finished product. Still need to:
- fit new belly pan
- adjust ventura rack
- put Randy's oil filter adapter on (In Oz, what filter best suits that?)
- clamp the exhaust mufflers
- keep son off the bike...........
Bill.
42.5 is too big.... I put 40.0s in my '90 a couple years ago, have 1 mixture screw just under 1 turn out, the rest are just over 1 turn out, which is about perfect.
Quote from: fj1289 on April 25, 2010, 02:07:29 PM
Finally got the 89 road ready again!
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/171_25_04_10_12_43_03_0.jpeg)
"New" engine from a 90, back to stock carbs (for now – RIP Keihin FCRs), a Frankenstein Supertrapp to replace the missing Kerker White Tip, replaced the missing side scoops, and cleaned up a lot of the wiring mods (removed most of the added-on drag race stuff – shifter, kill box and data logger).
Still haven't ridden it yet, so don't know how 2nd gear is, etc.
Side story – the carbs gave me a new challenge. Completely rebuilt them, added a Factory jet kit (including returning the carbs to "stock" from the previously installed Dynojet parts). The bike would only start and run on the "choke" – would not idle at all or accept any throttle. Went through the carbs again to make sure I didn't goof something up. First thought the issue was the idle speed setting being WAY OFF from the complete tear down. No dice. Then figured the idle mixture was way off. Worked from 5 turns out to 1/2 turn out – still no luck. I'm at 4300' here, so thought maybe the pilot system was way off since the Factory kit replaces the stock 37.5 pilot jet with a 42.5 (also recommend an optional 45.0 if you need it richer!). Didn't think this would keep it from idling since you can usually compensate with the idle mixture and at least get it to idle (the tip-in to 1/8 throttle would probably still be off though). I put the stock 37.5 pilots in and it runs!!! I then looked at the 42.5's, and it looks like they were not drilled to size! Looks like only a VERY SMALL hole was drilled through (looks more like a 12.5 than a 42.5!) – almost like a centering hole was drilled, but never opened up to the proper size! That's a new one on me.
Time for this!
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/171_25_04_10_12_43_03_1.jpeg)
The back wheel is off, but I started mine today.
I put the battery tender on it a couple days ago to make sure the battery was full.
She fired right up 1st crank after sitting for two months not running with 2 clicks of choke.
after about 30 seconds I shut the choke off and she settled right down at about 1000rpm.
I let it run for about 5 minutes then shut it off. I din't want to melt my fender or chin fairing.
I repaired, replaced really, mounting tab on front fender. I used product called "Plastifix". Easy to use. We shall see how it holds up. Seems strong.
Mike
New set of pilot power 2ct's, cleaned and lubed chain, changed oil and filter, and put on a new double bubble windscreen. Oh and scuffed in new tires with A 150 mile ride up to the BRP and back. :good2:
Installed new fork seals, polished and buffed lower forks legs, new brake pads. New FZR wheel should be ready this week from powder coating, then the new Pilot Road 2's get mounted... :yahoo:
Cheers..Jake
Hmmm put some gas in it and rode it 160 miles or so with my good buddy Calvin on his FJ.
Eric M
today my fj is finally home, I have had the situation of storing it at an off site location for 3 1/2 years and had to visit it for rides and mods. although it made sense at the time the sacrifice was a true test of patience and insanity.
The fj now sits proudly at my new residence in the garage surrounded by all my tools and parts ready for action.
such a good feeling, I just had to share :drinks:
now I just have to finish the mods before the wcr.
just can't stop riding it.
Mark we are going to have a pair of house warmings beside you Jason just bought a house about six blocks from me. :good:
Went for a spin down to Pete Waricle's place this morning with my spare starter motor...... Pete's was playing up.
We swapped it in, and while better, it would on the odd occasion not engage...... I have a bad feeling the starter clutch is crook??
The starter spins but the engine does not turn over.
Anyway, we went for a little spin, swapping bikes for a short time. Pete has done a very nice job on his FJ. I especially like his solo seat mod!
Harvy
Quote from: Harvy on May 15, 2010, 03:57:23 AM
Went for a spin down to Pete Waricle's place this morning with my spare starter motor...... Pete's was playing up.
We swapped it in, and while better, it would on the odd occasion not engage...... I have a bad feeling the starter clutch is crook??
The starter spins but the engine does not turn over.
Anyway, we went for a little spin, swapping bikes for a short time. Pete has done a very nice job on his FJ. I especially like his solo seat mod!
Harvy
Harvy,
The FJ starter drive is susceptible to loosing spring tension on the one-way clutch. When looking at the exploded view, the problem parts is #8. http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/showschematic/m7148sch217477 (http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/showschematic/m7148sch217477)
These springs are about as fine as the spring within a retractable ball point writing pen. The use of some synthetic oils, thicker oils and/or a lack of changing the oil can also cause these rollers to slip and not allow the starter to turn the engine. There is no easy repair as the bottom of the case would have to come off to service the springs. Previously, I have never replaced the springs, but have chosen to simply stretch them to increase the spring pressure when doing rebuilds.
Since the introduction of the XJ model engine, Yamaha change this three ramp/roller system to a one-way sprag which has eliminated the problem all together. That is now what I install into every rebuild I do so that problem never leaves anyone having to bump start the engine.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: racerrad8 on May 15, 2010, 08:04:47 PM
Harvy,
The FJ starter drive is susceptible to loosing spring tension on the one-way clutch. When looking at the exploded view, the problem parts is #8. http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/showschematic/m7148sch217477 (http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/showschematic/m7148sch217477)
These springs are about as fine as the spring within a retractable ball point writing pen. The use of some synthetic oils, thicker oils and/or a lack of changing the oil can also cause these rollers to slip and not allow the starter to turn the engine. There is no easy repair as the bottom of the case would have to come off to service the springs. Previously, I have never replaced the springs, but have chosen to simply stretch them to increase the spring pressure when doing rebuilds.
Since the introduction of the XJ model engine, Yamaha change this three ramp/roller system to a one-way sprag which has eliminated the problem all together. That is now what I install into every rebuild I do so that problem never leaves anyone having to bump start the engine.
Randy - RPM
Randy, yes, we were wondering about the oil part of the equation.
Pete is using Castrol Edge 10-60 fully synth, which to me seems too extreme at both ends for Queensland conditions.
I don't want to buy into another oil thread here, but I personally use 20-50 dyno, and with just shy of 100,000kms, I have not had any starter problem - touch wood!
Thanks for the tip on the XJ engine update.......when the time comes that's a good way to go.
I'm sure Pete will see your response........ he is putting together a bit of a list of parts.... so he will be in contact.
Still waiting to hear some good news from you about your back mate....... its a bugger when something so small can change your whole perspective on life....chin up mate!
Harvy
installed new PR2s and .80kg fork springs with 12wt oil. Balanced the carbs.
Rode it naked. No, wait, that doesn't sound right, how about sans fairing. Rode around the parking lot at work for half an hour to check out my GSX-R rear wheel swap, braided lines, new chain, and blue dot calipers. Managed to scuff in the tires in good shape and clearance the peg feelers. Seated the pads in, resisted the urge to do wheelies past security cameras. Everything works! Very pleased with mods so far, now for the mileage to truly test their worth. Fork overhaul and FZR front wheel are next. Feels great to be rolling again!
Doug
Quote from: Harvy on May 15, 2010, 10:43:33 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on May 15, 2010, 08:04:47 PM
Harvy,
The FJ starter drive is susceptible to loosing spring tension on the one-way clutch. When looking at the exploded view, the problem parts is #8. http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/showschematic/m7148sch217477 (http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmotorcycles/showschematic/m7148sch217477)
These springs are about as fine as the spring within a retractable ball point writing pen. The use of some synthetic oils, thicker oils and/or a lack of changing the oil can also cause these rollers to slip and not allow the starter to turn the engine. There is no easy repair as the bottom of the case would have to come off to service the springs. Previously, I have never replaced the springs, but have chosen to simply stretch them to increase the spring pressure when doing rebuilds.
Since the introduction of the XJ model engine, Yamaha change this three ramp/roller system to a one-way sprag which has eliminated the problem all together. That is now what I install into every rebuild I do so that problem never leaves anyone having to bump start the engine.
Randy - RPM
Randy, yes, we were wondering about the oil part of the equation.
Pete is using Castrol Edge 10-60 fully synth, which to me seems too extreme at both ends for Queensland conditions.
I don't want to buy into another oil thread here, but I personally use 20-50 dyno, and with just shy of 100,000kms, I have not had any starter problem - touch wood!
Thanks for the tip on the XJ engine update.......when the time comes that's a good way to go.
I'm sure Pete will see your response........ he is putting together a bit of a list of parts.... so he will be in contact.
Still waiting to hear some good news from you about your back mate....... its a bugger when something so small can change your whole perspective on life....chin up mate!
Harvy
Well, after Harvey went to all the trouble of bringing and helping fit the starter ( and much appreciated help, Harvey) and bled the clutch I arranged to go for a ride Sunday.
Didn't happen. The starter whirred but wouldn't catch
This was about 7:30 am and about 10C.
I waited till 10:00 am when in warmed up and tried it again, it fired.
Today I went for a ride, picked up some 10w 30 synthetic - I don't want to risk trouble by changing to mineral- and changed the oil.
So far so good. Starts easily.
Early tomorrow morning will be the test.
I had a ride on Harvey's bike Saturday and it seem to have more of everything, brakes, suspension, response and handling. A nice ride.
I can see why the mods are so popular.
Pete
IT STARTS COLD!!!!!!
Quote from: waricle on May 18, 2010, 05:11:46 PM
IT STARTS COLD!!!!!!
Excellent Pete!
Randy was on the right track with his mention of oil viscosity then.
We will have to do a day of it soon.
Harvy
Got the head on and buttoned up. Still a load of detail crap to do, but the bits that actually produce power are done. Need to add all the little power drains yet though :mocking:
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Nice...I like the button it up part. Always my favorite part of any project.. :yahoo:
Cheers...Jake
Looks good Andy.
Now hurry up and put it in the chassis and get it to the strip! :blum1: (Like I can talk!)
I'm almost there Andy, bottom end is completely done, all I lack is overhauling the carburetors and reworking my second cylinder head, the first one was completely worn out.
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Overhauling the carburetors today
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Worn out cylinder head
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The exhaust seats are so worn that even the thinest shim is too large, there is no clearance. Has some cracks in the combustion chambers and the valve guides were questionable. The cam journals, saddles and caps were scored from previous incompetent assembly. This thing is garbage! Luckily I was able to locate a good and complete cylinder head. I'm going to ditch the used Ferrea intake valves and go with Yamaha valves.
Boy that picture of the headless motor is a familiar sight!
And hopefully one that I won't see outside of pictures for awhile!
Quote from: SkyFive on May 23, 2010, 09:29:15 AM
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Looks like you had the case welded where it was cracked a the rear mount, yes?
Make sure the left front motor mount has been removed, cleaned and anti-seized before putting in the bike to help eliminate vibration.
Randy - RPM
Randy,
I found a machine shop in my area that specialized in metal repair, called them and took my engine case over there. The shop looked very experienced, dark, musty, some old machines and a old man that owned it, it looked like he had been there for a hundred years. He assured me they could weld it with their "aluminum welder" for $40. so I left it with him for a couple of days. I felt confident I had found the right man for the job. The weld looked like crap, it was very messy, spatter everywhere, I spent an hour or two with a pencil grinder cleaning it up, I took half of the weld off and it still had more than enough filler to do the job. The penetration looks sufficient to hold. After cleaning up the weld I put a thin smear of JB weld over it to assure there are no leaks in case there are any pin holes. I believe it will be good.
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The crack was just below the bearing numbers.
Whee! Friend is over for the weekend so the motor is in the frame today!
Then I did a mockup, for a couple reasons. First, it means that I managed to get all the CRAP off of all evarthing and give my work area a bit of a rather overdue cleaning. Second, now I've got a pretty good idea of what all crap I need to figure out still (making some minor brackets and such, where exactly did the stupid bolt for the left rear framerail supports go, etc). And most importantly? The FJ turned a wheel under pushing power for the first time in what, 2 years? Mostly it's good to see it all in one piece and be able to sit on it and go vrrrrrbrbrbrbbrbrbr with my mouth. Actually looks like a motorbike again a bit! Also nice is now that I can push it around easier, I managed to rearrange the garage and gain a little space, hooray!
Still a fair distance from getting it to light up, but I feel like I'm down to things that I'm comfortable with doing. Wasted a solid 15min looking for the crankcase breather hose though, it was of course at eye level hanging from the wall. Sigh!
Took it for a ride today.
Experienced another brief bout with the (yet to be diagnosed) electrical issue that first showed itself at the ECSR.
Then, just when I thought I would be pushing it (at least away from the stoplight I was at), it restarted and ran fine (2up) for another 60 miles.
The bodywork comes off tomorrow... :flag_of_truce:
Randy T
Indy
Ah, today- adjusted my brake pedal height up to reduce toe grinding in turns. Also hit 130 (indicated) between corners, must have been close to redline with my low gearing but I didn't really have the time to look. Brakes work good though.
Cleared the space around it in the garage.........then looked at all the parts I have for it..........
Tomorrow it's up early :morning1: then turn some wrenches on it! :good2:
Today??? I have to install a newer alternator
Polish the can and the aluminum parts, check the voltage on the headlight harness and make a harness for low and high beam relays if necessary.
sunday was wrench-a-poluza on the fj.
clutch slave rebuild.
fjr master install.
braided steel clutch line install.(thanks Pat)
clutch extra disc and spin on oil filter adapter(thanks Randy)
oil change
valve adj and new gasket and grommets
spark plugs
fork flush and fill.
tools everywhere and still more to do today.
I am right there with you Mark, except today was my wrench day.
I removed a bunch of parts...
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Cleaned some stuff......
Before(YUKK!)
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After a good soaking with some brake cleaner, a screwdriver to get the caked on gunk, and some more flushing with brake cleaner.......
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I also clearanced my wheel to fit my modified cushdrive, and collar.
I used an air cutoff tool, and a Dremel, and also finished with2" grinding disk on my air tool.
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and I plan on replacing this.....
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with this......
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I also removed the 2 front motor mounts to clean them........
I spent all day on the bike.........but i still have a long way to go.......I miss riding her :blush:
allright, get er done. :good2:
Age and Queensland roads have tried hard to trash my beloved FJ. So the weekend was needed to fix the little things that if left become big things..
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss204/roverfj1200/TLC/P1010001-1.jpg)
Front fairing stress cracks.
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I have had good success with fiberglass patches fix behind the plastic.
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For some reason the light on the right had started a stress crack to so more glass
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Took the chance to clean up the wiring for the lights as well.
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New road two for the front.
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A wash and I'm ready to roll..
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Now where is that tag..
Big weekend for new pieces. Installed 1.05kg/mm fork springs (Thanks Fudge!), fork seals and 15W oil (Thanks Jamie, helpful dealer parts guy and former FJ'er), new Yamaha OEM R1 front pads and fresh fluid (eBay Canada!), FZR1000 3.5" front wheel (Thanks much woodcreekpete- Canada again), Michelin Pilot Power 2CT 120/70/17, V&H SS2R can- no baffle, see 2" of light right through it. Raforth fork seal driver and damper rod tool instrumental to this project- Thanks Dave! I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I seem to have a completely different bike now!! Couldn't swing the emulators, but the forks are so vastly improved as to make the stock setup criminally negligent. No pics of parts or process, but a finished product test video of sorts-
Yamaha FJ1200 burnout competition Barre VT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRsjqUKFh94#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Doug
OMG Doug.... you really need to learn how to do a burnout without a wheel chock.... might as well be a harley..........
KOokaloo! :wacko3:
Removed tire from circulation in the interest of public safety, 2003 DOT code, now I can get a match for my front.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/574_05_06_10_10_08_26.jpeg)
Doug
The chock was the rules- last year a Hardly kept trying to launch into the crowd- they were worried I might do likewise. Rest assured- no chock required, although I did try hard to avoid the trail of oil the Dakota in front of me was leaving.
That's a shame, half the joy of a burnout is rolling up to the staging beams! Suppose I've not done many that weren't at the strip though.
Figured out at least part of the electrical problem that surfaced at the ECSR. You can almost see it from here...
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Ah, there it is! Could this have been enough of a short to have killed the whole bike?
(http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu159/rktmanfj/IMG_0498.jpg)
Oh, and cobbled up a copy of Dan's beaded seat cover, too.
(http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu159/rktmanfj/IMG_0497.jpg)
Randy T
Indy
Like Mark O, I've gone down the braided clutch line route and even a bigger clutch master. Of course, all this is attempted with few days before rally, thus tempting the gods to play the mess with the mortal card. Oh, well, I can always take the truck.
Well it wasn't my bike, but my buddy's 85.
New fork seals, dust caps, Racetech 0.95kg springs, racetech fork bushings, 15wt oil;
Rebuilt clutch slave with kit from RPM, (thanks again Randy, nice touch on the bleeder cap and push rod seal,) replaced master with previously re-built master I had kicking around because he had dot 5 shit in there for 5 years...looked like algae growing in there... reverse bled...easiest bleed I ever did.
Replaced front brake pads...old ones contaminated with leaking fork oil...master was a mess...had a beyotch of a time bleeding the dam things...fricking anti-dive useless piece of crap air holding waste of aluminum junk.
Shake down run was positive. He loves the way his front end feels now.
Cheers...Jake
Installed new chain and did shake down of all recent mods , now I just gotta change the rear tire and I am rally ready.
hell, I may even wash it . :wacko1:
Took the zx9 to the dragstrip. Entered a 10.50 index class. Pro tree.
Got slaughtered. Deserved it. Couldn't 60 at all for some reason. Got a massive sunburn too. Got rained on on the way home.
Had fun anyhow :)
Well..I got my cam followers polished by hand, all 16 of them, inside and out. I then installed the cams and checked my clearances, after all was said and done I needed two 2.75mm shims so...that meant I wouldn't get the cams installed this weekend like I had hoped. However, I did get the cylinder head on and the cam chain guides installed. I decided to start on the frame, I got it completely disassembled in about three hours.
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QuoteWhat did you do to your bike today?
STARTED ITThanks to randy for getting me out of a hard place and helped with giving specs and ideas, and to chris for helping supply some super pimp parts.
Haven't heard it run in some two and a half years.
It's a good sound.
Quote from: andyb on July 04, 2010, 01:32:09 AM
QuoteWhat did you do to your bike today?
STARTED IT
Thanks to randy for getting me out of a hard place and helped with giving specs and ideas, and to chris for helping supply some super pimp parts.
Haven't heard it run in some two and a half years.
It's a good sound.
That is good to hear and it is a long way from here...
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=479.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=479.0)
Randy - RPM
So very much so :) Still have stuff to figure out yet and things to work on, but I'm getting closer!
Mounted new to me Supertrapp 4-1 stainless header. :good2:
Jets ordered..should be in this week. Next weekend install jets and start tuning.... :wacko1:
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/jvb_ca/86FJ/New%20Exhaust/20100702-IMGP3675.jpg) (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p21/jvb_ca/86FJ/New%20Exhaust/20100702-IMGP3668.jpg)
Thanks again Chris.. :yahoo:
Cheers...Jake
Quote from: andyb on July 04, 2010, 01:32:09 AM
STARTED IT
Thanks to randy for getting me out of a hard place and helped with giving specs and ideas, and to chris for helping supply some super pimp parts.
Haven't heard it run in some two and a half years.
It's a good sound.
Good to hear! Hopefully you can get it finished and on the track without any more problems!
Good luck and keep us posted with results!
Quote from: jvb_ca on July 04, 2010, 06:33:35 PM
Mounted new to me Supertrapp 4-1 stainless header. :good2:
Jets ordered..should be in this week. Next weekend install jets and start tuning.... :wacko1:
Jake, looks great! Goes well with the polished fork lowers and rim lips. Are you using a jet kit? Or tuning the stock set up?
Chris.
Gonna start with 117 mains(mikuni) and 42.5 pilots and go from there. Will be a good time to clean and go through the carbs at the same time.
Any idea how many discs are in the muffler? I was gona open it and see, but the screws are being a little stubborn and I don't feel like stripping the heads and drilllng and easyout and etc. etc..so left it alone for now.
Cheers..Jake
Quote from: jvb_ca on July 05, 2010, 06:44:07 AM
Any idea how many discs are in the muffler?
Cheers..Jake
I have 12 in mine and I think Mr. Bran has 14 in his, so 12+ should be a good start.
LA Mike
Quote from: jvb_ca on July 05, 2010, 06:44:07 AM
Chris.
Gonna start with 117 mains(mikuni) and 42.5 pilots and go from there. Will be a good time to clean and go through the carbs at the same time.
Any idea how many discs are in the muffler? I was gona open it and see, but the screws are being a little stubborn and I don't feel like stripping the heads and drilllng and easyout and etc. etc..so left it alone for now.
Cheers..Jake
Jake,
I THINK there are 11 in it - I never looked. It has the one extra that is not installed, and I'm assuming it comes with 12.
I'd shoot a little penetrating oil at them once or twice each day until your jets come in. Give them a quick whack with a hammer and then try tightening them slightly first to help break them free. Then try to loosen them. Heat is a good thing too. Any bolt having to do with the exhaust tends to gall or sieze over time. Use plenty of copper anti-sieze or something to make it easy next time.
Chris
i took all the discs out of mine (internal disc model).... it sounds and runs better that way..... i could not add enough discs to lean out the mix with the end cap still in place so out they came :good2:
Kookaloo!
Frank
That's an expensive glasspack! How's the sound? I was surprised to find my rather mellow SS2R is wide open inside. Were you you running it on a dyno to check mixture or plugs/ seat o' the pants?
hi all i thought i,d add another to the list
had a few issues with my stock mufflers the black ones ,had a mate with a tig weld up the holes previous dickhead had drilled in the end ,flap disc them and added a little tube on the end bit like a duke ,looked better , then set about deciding to re paint them ,got a can of paint ,wet and dry and rubbed ,wow there is chrome beneath that paint so fired up the old dbl ended polisher and buffed them back to all chrome ,a bit slack couldnt get it all off ,but its where you cant see it
read a thread awhile ago on headers too and have done 2 of the headers back to stainless or chrome not sure
back is sore from standing over the buffer for a few hrs so will do the other 2 and post a pic when its all done :yahoo:
Quote from: carsick on July 05, 2010, 10:43:28 PM
That's an expensive glasspack! How's the sound? I was surprised to find my rather mellow SS2R is wide open inside. Were you you running it on a dyno to check mixture or plugs/ seat o' the pants?
Not all SS2R's are hollow straight through. Last one I took apart had a big blocking baffle in the middle (really stupid design there...)
Re-jetted/cleaned/tuned carbs yesterday.
After mounting the Supertrapp, finally got around to re-jetting the FJ. I did not go with a kit, but decided to replace mains and pilots.
Going with Chris's (FJ1289) suggestions here is what I did.
Old setup
F1s slipons, stock headers and collector.
UniPod air filters.
main jet 112.5,
pilot jet 40,
needle 5FZ274
air 155,
needle clip position 3.
Idle screw 2.5 tuns out.
Float height 22mm
Ran great. A little rich on the low end. Plugs and pipes sooty black. Maybe float height was to high? Mileage was acceptable.
New setup
Supertrap full stainless 4-1 pipe
UniPod filters
Main jets 117.5
Pilots 42.5
Needle 5Fz272 (stock)
Air 155 (stock)
Needle clip pos. 3 (middle)
Air screw 2.5 turns out.
Float height 21mm (lowered 1mm)
Blip test was hanging slightly, so I turned air screw out to 2.5 turns.(started at 2) Comes right back to idle. Re-Synced carbs.
After 1st test run :
Ran great. Low end and middle throttle response muchly improved. Driveabilty(is that a word?) is excellent. No hesitation from low rpm right through to redline. Pulled hard and steady. Maybe a little flat at top? (bigger mains? 120) is ok for now. Will ride a bit and tweak from here if need be. Check plugs after a ride or two. I think it is real close right now. Will have to check mileage.
Rode two up with my wife last night, and same results. Very happy so far... :yahoo:
And I love the tune this pipe plays...music to the ears. :dance2:, and a total weight savings of just over 9lbs from old setup.
Thanks Chris for suggestions. :good2: Probably saved a lot of dinkin around...
Cheers...Jake
Jake,
Glad you like it and you're in the ballpark with the jetting!
To see if you need bigger mains - take a quick ride with the air filters off. See how it does on top. If better, you need to go leaner on the mains (try 115's or even your 112.5's), if worse, then you need to go richer (try 20's). I'm going to guess it'll probably need to go richer based on Andy's experience with the V&H. Note - your mid range may not like it, but it's just a quick test to see which way to go on the mains without having to spend as much $$ or time! Then again, if the mid range improves too, try lowering the needle a half slot (clip in #2 with the thin spacer washer under the clip). [I'm assuming you've got little spacer washers - you may not]
Also, if you go richer (or leaner) on the mains, you may have to make a small step in the opposite direction for the midrange to compensate for the effects (may not be noticable with just a once size main jet change though).
Kookaloo!
This is what I've done in the last week or ten days.
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Prep, polish and paint wheels, two full days work each, the masking is very tedious. My intention is to try and stay as close to original as possible but, I took some liberties and painted them black metallic. Remounted front tire, replaced 3" long truck valve stem with short chrome stem, replaced bearings/seals and installed Dyna Beads. Rear wheel is now painted and being reassembled.
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Refinish cushdrive and install new sporcket. (I did remove paint from sprocket lands before installing sprocket)
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Disassemble forks, clean, refinish lower forks. replace seals and fluid. Strip and polish lower triple tree and repaint upper triple tree. Clean and repack stem bearings with grease.
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Clean, polish, refinsh and grease rear suspension components. Install new 530 o-ring chain.
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The engine is ready to install after wheels are on.
Quote from: SkyFive on August 10, 2010, 09:22:33 PM
This is what I've done in the last week or ten days.
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The engine is ready to install after wheels are on.
everything looking new again .. very nice! :good2:
KOokaloo!
Oh. Wow. I think I'm in the wrong classroom. I just use brake cleaner to scrape the melted tire off my tailight. You gonna ride that thing or put it in a ziploc bag?
Okay, enough funnin'. Very, very nice work and photos! I am eagerly awaiting your next post!
Doug
Quote from: carsick on August 10, 2010, 10:51:25 PM
Oh. Wow. I think I'm in the wrong classroom. I just use brake cleaner to scrape the melted tire off my tailight. You gonna ride that thing or put it in a ziploc bag?
Okay, enough funnin'. Very, very nice work and photos! I am eagerly awaiting your next post!
Doug
Thanks Doug! Some of those parts came from you. I appreciate your help, I really do!
The parts were so purty I never woulda recognized 'em. Perhaps because they used to look like-
THIS!!
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Thats a hell of away for you to store my engine :rofl:
Whaddya mean? It was running in that picture! Sure is loud without pipes...
No pipes, No diaphrams, No cables, no problem.
Don't let water get in in her, then she's worth nothing.
I see the pipes through the window of the mustang, bet they are dry...
I pulled the motor before monsoon season here and put it under cover.
Hey Jake,
I hope you don't mind but I added your above post with your jetting information, over to our files section.
In that Files section there is a subsection (or child board) called "Carburetor Files". Within there is a post called "
Recommended Jetting for Stock Carbs and Mild Mods"..
That's where I will add your info.
That way we can archive all our carb jet tuning experiences in one section for ease of future review.
Thanks Jake for sharing your jet tuning info. with us. We all learn from each other.
***Hey other FJ'ers.... If you have found a set of jets which work well for you, please head on over to the topic in above Files section and share your info with the rest of us. We need to populate this topic with our knowledge***
Remember the Files section is not for discussion purposes, if you have a question on what's in the files, post the question in the appropriate general section (e.g. Modifications, etc) so we will all see it and thus, be able to give you a quick answer.
Carry on amigos, thanks again Jake. That's some good shit.
Quote from: jvb_ca on July 18, 2010, 02:42:29 PM
Re-jetted/cleaned/tuned carbs yesterday.
After mounting the Supertrapp, finally got around to re-jetting the FJ. I did not go with a kit, but decided to replace mains and pilots.
Going with Chris's (FJ1289) suggestions here is what I did.
Old setup
F1s slipons, stock headers and collector.
UniPod air filters.
main jet 112.5,
pilot jet 40,
needle 5FZ274
air 155,
needle clip position 3.
Idle screw 2.5 tuns out.
Float height 22mm
Ran great. A little rich on the low end. Plugs and pipes sooty black. Maybe float height was to high? Mileage was acceptable.
New setup
Supertrap full stainless 4-1 pipe
UniPod filters
Main jets 117.5
Pilots 42.5
Needle 5Fz272 (stock)
Air 155 (stock)
Needle clip pos. 3 (middle)
Air screw 2.5 turns out.
Float height 21mm (lowered 1mm)
Blip test was hanging slightly, so I turned air screw out to 2.5 turns.(started at 2) Comes right back to idle. Re-Synced carbs.
After 1st test run :
Ran great. Low end and middle throttle response muchly improved. Driveabilty(is that a word?) is excellent. No hesitation from low rpm right through to redline. Pulled hard and steady. Maybe a little flat at top? (bigger mains? 120) is ok for now. Will ride a bit and tweak from here if need be. Check plugs after a ride or two. I think it is real close right now. Will have to check mileage.
Rode two up with my wife last night, and same results. Very happy so far... :yahoo:
And I love the tune this pipe plays...music to the ears. :dance2:, and a total weight savings of just over 9lbs from old setup.
Thanks Chris for suggestions. :good2: Probably saved a lot of dinkin around...
Cheers...Jake
I installed the engine, starter and alternator. Mounted a new rear tire and installed the rear wheel. I got the clip on's repainted and the master cylinders rebuilt and repainted. I'm working on the calipers now, I had to order all new seals for those. I'm waiting on some wiring harness tape, the kind without andhesive, then I will rewrap the harness. I'm getting close to finishing. The only hurdle that I can foresee is the exhaust, I have a nice original system that I want to install but the problem with that is two of the down pipes have holes in the inner pipes. If anybody has two 1984 or 1985 fat style down pipes they want to part with I would be interested. I have a Vance & Hines system that I may use as a last resort but I really want to stay as close to original as possible.
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I found this guy saying a prayer on my garage door, I hope it was for me.
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that is looking good, almost makes me want to wash my fj........almost :biggrin:
Bryan, you do some nice work. Keep it up and keep the pictures coming too!
A little bit of everything in this thread.
In the process of replacing my fork seals...again. Forks are disassembled on the workbench and I got all the parts cleaned up today. Just waiting for two nylon piston rings from my dealer that go on each damper rod. Expensive! :shok:
Also, working on a little patch job on the lower chin fairing. Got it cleaned and prepped for a little fiberglass work.
Quote from: DailyDriver on August 27, 2010, 05:36:12 AM
A little bit of everything in this thread.
In the process of replacing my fork seals...again. Forks are disassembled on the workbench and I got all the parts cleaned up today. Just waiting for two nylon piston rings from my dealer that go on each damper rod. Expensive! :shok:
Also, working on a little patch job on the lower chin fairing. Got it cleaned and prepped for a little fiberglass work.
You sounding like me. Also having to replace fork oil seal and do some fibre glass repairs on my mud guard. good luck and may the best man win... :good:
I've been working at a feverish pace the last couple of weeks. I'm getting garage fever, it's something like cabin fever only worse. Let's see; I've rewrapped the wiring harness, repainted and rebuilt the calipers, mounted the rear subframe and most of the related parts, got all the electrical hooked up and checked out (checks good), bled the brakes and clutch and yesterday I spent three hours wrestling with the exhaust, I won. I got the battery all charged up. took the spark plugs out, pulled the upper oil galley plug and cranked the engine over until I had oil to the top end, I put the spark plugs back in, mounted the fuel tank, set the enricher, hit the start button and she roared to life. I didn't have time to take pictures or make a video but, now I'm in high gear to get the final adjustments made and the body work back on. I can't wait to ride!
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Git er done :yahoo:
Looks nice Scott,
Crisp and clean and no caffiene!
Jeeez! make that sky five!!!! :blush:
Quote from: paulfj03 on September 13, 2010, 07:22:32 AM
Looks nice Scott,
Crisp and clean and no caffiene!
Quote from: paulfj03 on September 13, 2010, 07:39:39 AM
Jeeez! make that sky five!!!! :blush:
Try some caffeine, Paul... it'll be okay. :lol:
Randy T :morning2:
Indy
looks good :good2:
Thanks guys! I finally got it all back together, I kind of rushed towards the end after I heard the engine run, I just wanted to ride after that. My work is not finished though.. :bomb: The first thing it did was bog down as I tried to accelerate. I hit the enricher and it picked up and went on. It will not accelerate from ~1000 to 3000 rpms unless I enrich it. It idles good though.
What I did; Rebuilt the carbs with Keyster KY-0560 86-87 FJ1200 kits (all of the jets, needles, float needles/seats, gaskets o-rings are new), I did reuse the original emulsion tubes because I have flat bottom slides and the FJ1200 emulsion tubes have a flange on top where my FJ1100 tubes did not. I set the floats at 22.5-23mm with a digital caliper, pre-synced the carbs with a feeler guage, set the mixtures at 2.5 turns, the needles are set to the middle and checked the fuel level in the bowls with clear tubing. The fuel level is about 10mm below the top edge of the float bowl, at the rear, with the carbs held at approx. 30° like they would be mounted on the bike. I marked each bowl with a Sharpie marker and they were all identical. I installed new fuel lines but a have since reinstalled the old fuel line thinking the fuel line may be kinking, it's not. I checked fuel flow at the petcock, it is good, I pulled the petcock and cleaned the screen anyhow but it wasn't very dirty at all. I filled the tank with fuel, no improvement. By now you've probably guessed it, I'm really dreading pulling those carbs back off, the airbox is a bbiittcchh!
I've pulled the spark plugs twice after a 5 mile ride, they are new, the #1 and #4 look like new with only a slight tint of combustion, the #2 and #3 look just about right, a little bit of black and a little bit of gray all around. I haven't checked for vacum leaks but I did replace the intake boots o-rings and they fit flush and secure. The #1 and #4 vacum ports are blocked off, the CDI hose is connected to #2 and the fuel petcock vacum is connected to #3.
Suggestions are warmly accepted and appreciated especially if it saves me from having to pull that airbox back off?
Anyhow, here are some pictures I took just a few minutes ago. I want to thank Doug (carsick) for sending me the original chrome bolts for the exhaust and engine at his own expense. :drinks: Marsh, I haven't forgot you, just as soon as I recooperate financially there will be a donation. Thanks for providing us with this website.
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Do you know the trick of removing the top subframe bolts and pivoting it down a bit?
Makes the airbox removal a bit less of a bitch. :good:
Oh, and very nice work, it looks great!
Randy T
Indy
Looks awesome that puppys clean.
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The fuel level is about 10mm below the top edge of the float bowl, at the rear, with the carbs held at approx. 30° like they would be mounted on the bike.
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I don't think there is a 30 degree tilt to the carbs. Measure the fuel level on teh side of the bowl in the middle and you'll always get the same reading. I don't know how to interpret your fuel level the way you've measured it. If too low, the idle jet could be sucking air.
I also don't know what your talking about with the slides and emulsion tubes. All FJ slides are the same. The shrouded emulsion tubes are preferred.
Don't assume that when you add choke and it runs better that you're too lean. The choke circuit delivers a fuel/air mixture. If the orifices on the float bowls are clogged, then you're dumping in lots of extra air.
I'm also not familiar with the aftermarket carb components. I've read of lots of trouble from people that tried a/m carb parts.
DavidR.
DavidR.
Thanks. I do want to correct one thing on the loat bowl fuel level. I checked it with the carbs mounted on the engine. I summized that if I drew a straight line from the fuel level as measured from the rear, to the front of the carb bowl that the fuel level would be very nearly at the top of the bowl in the front.
I've done some reading and some thinkin' and I have two more things to try before I remove the carbs from the engine. I'm going to change the needles back to the original needles and then they will match the emulsion tubes. The reason for this is because when I changed the emulsion tubes I laid my originals beside the new (shrouded) emulsion tubes and the shrouded ones were longer and that was not including the shrouded portion. I'm thinking, longer emulsion tubes probably means the needles have a different profile and may be longer. The symptoms I'm having are in the needle circuit, the bike idles good. Secondly, I routed my vent tubes behind the engine and loosely wire tied them in a group, I read that if the vents are blocked the bowls may not fill completely.
I'm thinking the needles are the problem.
Very nice! Good looking bike. :yahoo:
Thanks guys! For the record, you cannot use the emulsion tubes or needles for scalloped bottom slides (86-87 FJ1200) on flat bottom slides (84-85 FJ1100). The emulsion tubes are longer and the needles are longer. I reinstalled my original needles and emulsion tubes and my carburetor problems are solved.
Fixed my fuel gauge that came off(screws backed out and ended up inside cluster)
Then took her to get emission tested (she passed with ease)
Then went to the DMV and she's legal for another year :yahoo:
QuoteWhat did you do to your bike today?
Tore it apart, again... damnit!
If you assemble the crankcases and there is a tight spot when rotating the clutch shaft, but it's not at the same point in the rotation each time, it means that the stupid bearing on the other end was wrong... the locating pin was dug into the soft aluminum, but it was putting a load on the bearing's outer race and putting it out of round when the cases were tightened against it, so as the balls went by that spot it became tight.
The other lil tip I've got is that the standard replacement (77mm, not the overbore sizes) Wiseco pistons have a 30.5mm relief on the intake side, and a 26.42mm relief on the hot side, so they have to be modified to accept 30.5/26mm valves. Calling wiseco to find this out took not less than 48 minutes worth of listening to advertisements while on hold, to boot. Sigh! So the pistons come out when I build up enough gumption, and are heading to FastByGast for wider pockets to get cut. If it isn't something, then it's something else.
Polishing the SS headpipes!
Half way there, finished pictues to be posted in my thread.
Replaced the OEM rear shock with a Hagon shock. The Hagon, in its basic setup, is about 1cm longer than the old thing that came out of it (at whatever preload settings).
I also raised the back a little more, adjusting Soupy's Links (replace the dogbones sometime ago). When I have the center stand on, the rear wheel barely touches the ground.
Handles very nicely, thank you, especially in to corners.
Next job: FJR1300 clutch and front brake master cylinders.
Bill.
Quote from: andyb on September 30, 2010, 11:49:29 AM
If it isn't something, then it's something else.
Yess, but when all is finally right, victory is sooo sweeet.
Went for a 700km (438mls?) round trip ride down south to Dunsborough for the night and back....
Did spark plug reading before I left and when I returned, have been tuning/playing with ignition timing and carb needle positions/idle mixtures over the past 2000 kms (3 weeks), so been recording fuel consumption numbers and pulling plugs. Was quite satisfied with 20.5 kms/lt for the trip, (58.2 mls/impg - think that is 46.6 mls/usgl). Around town mileage has been good too, nice colour on the plugs, getting close now, maybe a fraction lean on the needle, may try 1/2 to 1 notch higher needle by the end of the week...then I promise I'll stop fiddling with it, promise. :nea:
While not exactly working "on" the bike itself, been getting my head around crank trigger design theory and what design to use for some different ECU's on my short list. In regards to trigger design, they all need something just a little different - especially some like Haltech. Haven't quite made a final decision yet but Dyna dual channel trigger plate hooked up to the dual channel capable Microsquirt and making it batch fired is looking good for the fuel side and although I really wanted to do it with only one ECU, AND the MS could do the spark, I gotta say a Dyna 2000 for the ignition with the Microsquirt for fuel will still cost me less than most ECU's and really is probably the best option from a technical perspective too for many reasons that are just adding up and adding up pressing my "yes, go for that" button.
Part of the reason I say that because although the ECU manufacturers have fancy websites with nuclear powered shopping carts, they DO NOT have much technical information about matters such as the effect of; sensor winding polarities, trigger wheel and tooth design and all that important signal characteristic stuff is just one tiny aspect of what you need to learn yet the MS website is just a storehouse of knowledge and the idea of an open source project with many developers attracts me like Joomla does with website design architecture - unlimited pluginability.
Anyway, that's my last couple of days "on my bike"..... time to get back out into the garage - may do a spot of polishing tonight....
Victor.
Quote from: WestOzFJ on October 05, 2010, 07:41:03 AM
Went for a 700km (438mls?) round trip ride down south to Dunsborough for the night and back....
Did spark plug reading before I left and when I returned, have been tuning/playing with ignition timing and carb needle positions/idle mixtures over the past 2000 kms (3 weeks), so been recording fuel consumption numbers and pulling plugs. Was quite satisfied with 20.5 kms/lt for the trip, (58.2 mls/impg - think that is 46.6 mls/usgl). Around town mileage has been good too, nice colour on the plugs, getting close now, maybe a fraction lean on the needle, may try 1/2 to 1 notch higher needle by the end of the week...
That's some impressive fuel economy numbers. Did you have a tail wind all the way? How was the roll-on? Oh, did you have a cop sitting just behind you all the way? :-)
Cheers,
Arnie
DDM 55W 5000K Hi/Lo... awesome! Night and day difference :lol:
Question on next thing: I have old (F-2001,R-2003) Dunlop radials on the bike now. They are in great shape, but hard as marbles and not fun to push. They're probably even dangerous, but so is riding I guess. Anyway, I want real tires and stock wheels although from what I've found that appears impossible. I'd do a wheel swap if there is no other viable choice. How are the Battlax 45s?
Flynt
Quote from: Flynt on October 05, 2010, 11:32:58 PM
Anyway, I want real tires and stock wheels although from what I've found that appears impossible.
Flynt
Flynt, check these out.
Avon AV46 Azaro Sport Touring Rear Tire - 150/80ZR-16
Avon Storm AV55 Sport Touring Radial - 120/70/17
These are radial tires and work well.
Quote from: Flynt on October 05, 2010, 11:32:58 PM
How are the Battlax 45s?
I run those Battlax's on both my FJ's....
They're dual compound - harder in the middle, softer from about half way out from the centre to the edge....
The rear is excellent - good grip and I get better than "softer sports tyre" mileage although I think the soft shoulders would tear up fairly quick when pushed. I like the effect of the combination of front/rear profile of the pair - The rear is a fairly flat and wide shape, which makes the bike want to stand back up straight relatively quickly when coming out of corners (relative to say a more rounded rear profile).
BUT, I'm not really liking the front (yet) - it wears faster than the rear and seems to wear rapidly where the soft meets the hard to form a noticeably uneven and choppy transition evident in the wear pattern however I WILL try another soon and bump the front tyre pressures to see if that makes a difference to longevity.... Having said that, I can't complain about the wet weather performance of the front (or rear) and I commute on mine at least 450 kays a week (just for work) in rain, hail or shine so it's fair to say good mileage and wet weather grip/feel are important to me - all in all I'm going to stick with them for a while....
Can't say I've tried any others on an FJ to compare to though....
Quote from: WestOzFJ on October 06, 2010, 05:27:21 AM
Quote from: Flynt on October 05, 2010, 11:32:58 PM
How are the Battlax 45s?
I agree with WestOzFJ about the Battlax 45's. I've had them on my '85 for about 4 months and done about 5,000 kms and the back tyre is wearing very well. Grip in dry and wet conditions seems good. Front tyre hangs on equally as well but is wearing unevenly. Heel and toeing, across the entire tread area. Tried increasing tyre pressures but didn't seem to make any noticeable difference. I might try a different front next time, but our choice of 16" tyres is very limited over here. Regards, Pete.
Quote from: Arnie on October 05, 2010, 08:50:18 AM
That's some impressive fuel economy numbers. Did you have a tail wind all the way? How was the roll-on? Oh, did you have a cop sitting just behind you all the way? :-)
G'day Arnie,
I tried not to treat the trip just like a "fuel economy run" and just rode normally, which for me is to sit right on the very upper edge of the speed limit (when it's safe to of course) - this state has HEAPS of speed traps. Some years I drive well over 100,000 kilometres per year when I'm travelling to mine sites, so NOT speeding (by much) has had to become habit....
So yeah, you could say I had a cop up my @$&... he's always there... Don't have to be very far over the speed limit to get front row seat at vehicle crusher here...
Which is not to say I'm not naughty sometimes in some ways....
From my place, I could have just linked onto the northern end of the freeway and headed south for 250 kms at one speed but that's boring so instead I cut across the northern fringes of the city headed more or less south east and cruised down the inland road through a series of small farming towns so the speed was variable but not much actual stop/start and in the state limit zones sat on 120 kph indicated which I figure is about 110 (almost 69mph?).
I tried lots of roll on stuff - and in the previous week I'd tried one needle clip higher (needle lowered to second lowest): from a steady 50 mph if I partly closed the throttle momentarily and then rolled it open a little I could get it to hesitate slightly, so I figured at that point it was lean as I'd already tried center and 1 notch richer.
The trip was on the centre notch, I've not changed the setting, I want to see how it goes around town now I'm back to the daily grind.
I did have to pull the carbs down again since the initial build up a few weeks ago, finally got needle seat o rings that turned out to be leaking and after reassembly the bottom end fuelling cleaned up dramatically not to mention the carbs were a lot drier at the air inlets and around the slides in general. I'm at 1.25 turn out (with my number drilled fuel pilots) so will re-visit 1.5 turns.
The extra 5 degrees of advance makes a difference to part throttle fuel economy, no doubt about it -am looking forward to trying some of my own ignition curves with a programmable system.... stock XJR's have an interesting curve and the early ones (at least that I know of) run the same camshaft part number and a smaller diameter intake which makes for an interesting trial of what they do with ignition advance...
Some tuning handbooks I've read refer to being able to read if the motor has too much timing by the pattern of the three distinct colour bands that appear on the earth strap of the spark plug. The motor's in the target range for this indicator, plug colour and the exhaust colour is dark gray. So she's close although I did like how it went with the needle 1 notch richer than centre, will try that again now....
Quote from: Flynt on October 05, 2010, 11:32:58 PM
Question on next thing: I have old (F-2001,R-2003) Dunlop radials on the bike now. They are in great shape, but hard as marbles and not fun to push. They're probably even dangerous, but so is riding I guess. Anyway, I want real tires and stock wheels although from what I've found that appears impossible. I'd do a wheel swap if there is no other viable choice. How are the Battlax 45s?
Flynt
I thought the BT45 was OK back when I last used one. However, that was in 1999 and the state of the art has changed since then.
Arnie
I used a couple of the BT45 rears a few years ago, and still think it was the biggest POS tire I have ever run on any bike.
It may be my particular FJ, but they cause handling problems I never could resolve.
Randy T
Indy
Quote from: markmartin on October 06, 2010, 04:39:24 AM
Quote from: Flynt on October 05, 2010, 11:32:58 PM
Anyway, I want real tires and stock wheels although from what I've found that appears impossible.
Flynt
Flynt, check these out.
Avon AV46 Azaro Sport Touring Rear Tire - 150/80ZR-16
Avon Storm AV55 Sport Touring Radial - 120/70/17
These are radial tires and work well.
Ordered today and go on Friday... I'll ride Saturday (carefully) and report.
Darned expensive rubber, but what do ya expect for a 16 incher :yes:
I put on a new front tire and chain and finally got to take her for a spin. I installed a Dunlop Roadsmart on the stock front rim and MAN what a difference in handling from the Michelin Pilot that was on the front before it. The FJ steers much quicker from side to side and corner entry speeds have gone up as well. I had suspected that the forkbrace may have caused some of the slow handling issues but it was the Michelin. The Roadsmart is very stable on the wide sweepers as well. Well enough that there are now no more chicken stripes on the rear D205.
And that &#^$# grinding noise is gone from the left. And no more chain lash!!!.
Best $$$ I have spent on my bike in a long while. Wish I had more time to ride her more often. At just a tick over 3000 miles since July 09, I really need more saddle time.
But don't we all.
Craig O
New shoes always feel good.
That new tire feeling is awesome. :good:
now get out and ride.
I have just gone the other way, from Dunlop Roadsmart to Michelin Pilot. The Dunlop was fantastic, the sides wearing out just ahead of the centre and no handling issues. Within 2 k's of the Michelin being fitted I pulled over to see if they had left something loose. The bike felt so wierd I continued home at reduced speed and immediately checked frame bolts etc. Having confirmed nothing was loose, broken or missing, I checked pressures and went out again. On new smooth bitumen (Eastlink" for fellow Victorians) and the FJ felt like it had a hinge in the middle. Even on perfect road it constantly wriggles under me, cross overbanding or any longtitudinal imperfections and the twitching is scary. Several thousand K's later I'm sort of used to it and realise it won't kill me but it's a real pig and holding a neat line through corners is something that will have to wait for the next tyre. I can't bring myself to throw away a $244 tyre just yet!
Ribbert,
I'm surprised that you were able to wear out the sides of your Dunlops before the center, especially considering the constabulary we share. :-(
I'm also surpised that you're finding the Mich so squirrelly. I put a Mich Pilot Road 2 on mine a few months ago and am very happy with it. I'd had a Metz Z6 previously and this feels just as good, maybe a bit more stable.
Have you checked that the bolts holding the lower frame rails are tight? These can loosen or snap and cause some serious problems.
Cheers,
Arnie
Quote from: ribbert on October 12, 2010, 07:17:57 PM
I have just gone the other way, from Dunlop Roadsmart to Michelin Pilot. The Dunlop was fantastic, the sides wearing out just ahead of the centre and no handling issues. Within 2 k's of the Michelin being fitted I pulled over to see if they had left something loose. The bike felt so wierd I continued home at reduced speed and immediately checked frame bolts etc.
Ribbert,
Yeah, what Arnie said, better really go through your bike. The Michelin made the FJ handle slower, but the squirm you speak of was a non-issue for me. Also, it was very stable thru all the corners I have here in San Diego. Just alot more effort to make her turn.
Arnie, I will end up wearing the sides out before the center tread. This is not uncommon for me as I do not use her to commute and live just a scant 3-4 miles away from "The Roads". My bike spends more time in the twisties than on the straights by a long shot. Also, the Roadsmart is a dual compound tire, softer on the sides than the center. Here is a link to buy a front for a tick over $100:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUNLOP-ROADSMART-120-70ZR17-FRONT-MOTORCYCLE-TIRE-NEW-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem43a1e56d4bQQitemZ290478976331QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUNLOP-ROADSMART-120-70ZR17-FRONT-MOTORCYCLE-TIRE-NEW-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem43a1e56d4bQQitemZ290478976331QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
CraigO
Arnie,
Those lower frame bolts you mention were the very first thing I checked, having previously found a broken one when removing the engine and imagining that's just how it would feel if broken. The point of difference between our bikes is that I still have a 16"crossply on the back and imagine this would make tyre matching much more sensitive. The tyre shop is only 500 metres off the freeway and I rode it in handling well and immediately noticed it riding out. My point was not to bag the Michelin but more about compatibility to anyone still running stock rear wheel. I have since changed the rear from a Macadam to Pirelli and it made no difference one way or the other.
Re wearing the sides just ahead of the centre, I hadn't given it any thought, thinking that's what duel compound tyres do. However, that tyre life was spent over the summer on almost all dry rides and my regular rides have 2 things in common, minimising straights and avoiding traffic. I spend a lot of time on GOR, usually to Port Campbell, Bulla, Whitfield, Yarra valley etc. reasonably tight roads allowing much use of the tyre sides. Bike riding, Police, govt.,road rules, tolerance in Vic., don't even get me started!
Cheers
Ribbert
Quote from: craigo on October 13, 2010, 05:41:35 PM
Also, the Roadsmart is a dual compound tire, softer on the sides than the center. Here is a link to buy a front for a tick over $100:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUNLOP-ROADSMART-120-70ZR17-FRONT-MOTORCYCLE-TIRE-NEW-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem43a1e56d4bQQitemZ290478976331QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DUNLOP-ROADSMART-120-70ZR17-FRONT-MOTORCYCLE-TIRE-NEW-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem43a1e56d4bQQitemZ290478976331QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
CraigO
Yeah, Tire prices in Australa are outrageous! I'm not even sure who the greedy bastards are that I should blame. Could be the importer/distributors (likely) or could be the dealers. On previous trips to the US, I've come back to Austraila with a pair of tires strapped together as my 2nd piece of checked luggage.
Customs inspector did question that I would lug a pair of tires 1/2 way around the world, until I told them the price. He was also a biker and then understood. :-)
My cost for tires in Aus has been about A$200 for fronts (mounted and balanced with wheel off the bike), and A$240 for rears.
Cheers,
Arnie
I actually rode my bike today. Nice sunny October day, although a little chilly in the morning. First time on the bike since the day ride around Mt. Hood back in August. Boot did cause some pain to my foot but wasn't too bad.
On the way to work, I kept thinking that there was something I was supposed to take care of (on the bike) but for the life of me couldn't remember what. After about 10 minutes on the freeway I glanced down to make sure I wasn't going too much over the limit and discovered I was buzzing along at a whopping zero mph. Ahh.. forgot to hook the speedo cable back up under the faring.
Cable didn't fall out but the nut was a bit chewed up from bouncing on the ground. It had backed out of the speedo the last time I rode the bike and was still up in the faring but not connected.
Felt good to go for a spin.
Good to hear your back on the bike Bean, how the recovery comming along?? You need another speedo cable??
Eric M
Decided that it was time to take a good look at the countershaft sprocket. It has been making some worn chain noises recently although the chain is actually not in bad shape. Well, the countershaft sprocket was pretty baddly hooked, and the rear sprocket teeth were onlly about 2/3 as wide as they started out.
So, I replaced the chain, and both sprockets after just under 60,000 kms.
That was with a DID ZVM chain and AFAM c/s sprocket.
I'll let you guys know when I wear out my new Tsubaki Sigma and Renthal c/s sprocet.
Cheers,
Arnie
I put on a tail trunk rack I picked up off eBay several weeks back. Now I just have to get the mounting plate and a trunk. :yes:
Some Pics
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Hey Eric thanks for asking. :)
The speedo cable is fine other than the nut being chewed up. I hooked it back up once I got to work. Since it came off at the speedometer no one will ever see it.
Foot is doing ok. I'm at about 85% and can tell the last 15% is going to be the most difficult. I can almost walk without a limp and I think the only pain I have left is from tendons, muscles, etc. Amazing how quickly you lose strength when you're not using something. Had to teach myself to walk again. Haven't really made an effort to post updates about my dumb foot since my issues are minuscule compared to other folks.
Quote from: pdxfj on October 14, 2010, 03:31:59 PM
Hey Eric thanks for asking. :)
The speedo cable is fine other than the nut being chewed up. I hooked it back up once I got to work. Since it came off at the speedometer no one will ever see it.
Foot is doing ok. I'm at about 85% and can tell the last 15% is going to be the most difficult. I can almost walk without a limp and I think the only pain I have left is from tendons, muscles, etc. Amazing how quickly you lose strength when you're not using something. Had to teach myself to walk again. Haven't really made an effort to post updates about my dumb foot since my issues are minuscule compared to other folks.
Bean, you know this group is all about sharing, if you decide you need the cable just let me know.
Eric M
Garth,
Glad to hear you are back on the bike...........and I'm jealous of your ride around Mt. Hood....Them are some great riding roads.
Technically, it wasn't today............but Tuesday was my day off, and I got to spend most of it working on the bike(a rarity these days)
So.....I started at the back of the bike and worked my way forward with some projects that actually started before the WCR (my rear rotor and pads didn't arrive in time :mad:, and I ran out of time to install my oil temp guage before the Rally)
My rear pads were now just about shot, so it was time to pull the wheel and put the new rotor on to go with the new pads.
I took a bunch of pictures that I'll post in the "Mods" section.
This was also a good time to look at my tires closely, and check the wear on the Pirelli Angels I installed just before the WCR.
(I'll post a tire report in another thread)
I also needed to trim a small area of the chain guard.....When I did the rear wheel mod, there was some clearance between it, and the tire, but apparently at speed the airflow around the bike pushes it toward the tire.......enough so that the tire wore a small "V" groove in it.
(http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab154/firehawk068/Wave%20Rotor%20and%20Temp%20guage/CIMG5218.jpg)
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I gave it some room for the tire to move backwards as the chain wears/stretches
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It was also oil and filter change time
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......and since I have to pull the exhaust off the bike to change the oil(trying to think up a solution to this for next time. :mail1: I'll let Y'all know if i come up with anything), I figured it was also time to install my oil temp guage, and sender adapter fitting.(I'll post pics, and an oil temp report in a sparate thread)
Anyway, it was a good day of wrenching on the old girl.
As others have stated elsewhere, there is something very rewarding about working on your prized machine yourself.......especially when everything works out the way you had anticipated. :drinks:
I fitted a Facory Pro ignition advance rotor (+4) today. I followed the instructions in the Haynes manual, put the bike in 1st gear, told offspring to stand on the rear brake, but to no avail. I am stronger than 1st gear, brake and offspring. (Does this mean my clutch is slipping :biggrin: ).
I then found a way to grip the old rotor, and had it loose in seconds. Replaced with new rotor, gripped new plate, and torqued to 50 ft-lb.
I only tested it at idle for now. Idles nicely, better, in my opinion.
Waiting now on FJR1300 front brake master cylinder rebuild kit, clutch slave cylinder rebuild kit, and a new 10 bar oil cooler from the UK site.
Bill.
I would have sworn it wasn't long since I did this, but last night I removed the clutch and brake levers, cleaned and lubed them with "moly"grease. Having seen a lot of rain and dirt roads they were completely dry and full of crud. Now the amazing part, the pull required on the clutch and the smoothness was probably 30% improved and the effectiveness of the front brake around 50%!!!!!!!!!!!!! The notchiness of the brake was what prompted this( don't forget to lube the end of the m/c piston-where the lever makes contact). Such a simple job, so easy to overlook. As it turns out it was 2 years and 30,000 k's since I last did them and I think I only used oil at the time. Did the throttle cables while I was at it. Given these controls are the ones constantly in use, it felt like a vastly improved machine. So, for those mechanically challenged riders out there who prefer not to fiddle, give it go, it's easy and you may be surprised by the results.
Ordered carb # 1 air screw set as # 1 carb was pretty much dead due to no spring, washer/seat just a lonely mixture screw holding itself in there. PO was messing with carbs. Will properly sync and set mixtures later.
Also ordered new o-ring seal for front of crankcase (leaking) and a valve cover bolt gasket plug/seal to dry things up on the engine, waiting to receive parts so I can do an oil change. Cleaned up bike and dressed engine with S100, stuff is amazing!
I did a flush on my clutch system. :good2
Quote from: Paul Dodge on October 19, 2010, 07:09:01 PM
I did a flush on my clutch system. :good2
Slacker... :biggrin:
Randy T
Indy
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I bought these swanky mirrors off of eBay, they came all the way from Hong Kong.
Quality is decent, not as good as OEM but they don't vibrate like the BikeMasters they replace and
they are more aerodynamic.
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/Sky_5/100_1779.jpg)
You can't tell from the photo but the right mirror is even convex. Knarly!!
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I want to lose the silver windscreen mounting bolts so I got this windscreen mounting kit from the same outfit
as the mirrors. There are some nylon washers in there somewhere. I'm saving this chore so I can repair the fuel gage and fiberglass the cracks in my fairing on the inside at the same time.
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I did the wheel wash/polish/wax routine.
I pulled the front engine mounts tonight and greased them and reinstalled.
The Left one needed the puller tool, but the right one was easy enough to come out without wrenches.
Just one more thing down to keep the FJ up to speed.
Leon
Want to ensure you have another FJ to park next to at work? Easy.. sell a co-worker your "extra" one. :)
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Put the rods back on the crank....
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Valves now going back into the head.
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Over the past week and a half........
Pulled the carbs......thoroughly cleaned....replaced emulsion tubes and needles with FP items, re-jetted with 108 mains, 45 pilots, 3rd clip position and 3 1/2 turns out. Synched and balanced.
That was because she was starting to run quite rich and was breaking down at ~6500rpm.......so its now running really good - up to 6500rpm and then breaks down STILL...... so 4 new spark plugs and replaced the plug lead caps.....still the same..... Did a leakdown test - cylinder sealing/valves all good. I could delve into the plug leads and coils but -> I see a Dyna2000 kit, grey coils and new 8mm leads in my immediate future!
Replaced the crappy BT 020 that was on the FZ1 front wheel with the new Conti RoadAttack 2........what a tyre. No need to take it easy for the first 100 miles because they don't use that mould release shit.......it sticks like glue right from the get-go.
Replaced the front brake master with 2003 R1 master.
Replaced the clutch master with 1997 YZF750 master.
Harvy
Harvy, your jetting seems a bit ... odd to me. Stock main is 112.5, yet you're on 108? Stock pilot is 37.5 or 40, yet you're on 45. I wonder if your main is too lean, causing the 6500 problem and further masked by a too rich pilot jet.
JMHO, but something to consider.
Ed..... should have said.....these are DJ main jets.
I did a lot of mucking around with different jets to get to the point where she runs really well up to the 6500 mark.........also I guess I'm doing quite a bit of mix and match, what with the FP tubes and needles, which are quite different to the stock needles and tubes.
TO tell the truth mate, I very seldom get that high up the rev range and the breakdown may have been present before I commenced my 'playing'.
Harvy
Harvy
Quote from: Harvy on November 03, 2010, 05:10:26 AM
I did a lot of mucking around with different jets to get to the point where she runs really well up to the 6500 mark.........
TO tell the truth mate, I very seldom get that high up the rev range
Harvy
Oh my word!
You are missing out Mate!
Isn't this where the Kookaloo really starts?
Quote from: Firehawk068 on November 03, 2010, 11:13:14 PM
Quote from: Harvy on November 03, 2010, 05:10:26 AM
I did a lot of mucking around with different jets to get to the point where she runs really well up to the 6500 mark.........
TO tell the truth mate, I very seldom get that high up the rev range
Harvy
Oh my word!
You are missing out Mate!
Isn't this where the Kookaloo really starts?
I have to agree Alan, my FJ comes alive at 7K!
The Kookaloo lives in the upper RPM range!
Installed a fork brace on the fj and noticed a big difference. :gamer: :good2: :good2:
1-oops
Installed my new 10-row oil cooler, with braided oil lines.
Put new seals in the clutch slave cylinder, replaced clutch fluid and bled it. I notice that the action is quite light. This is with an FJR1300 master cylinder. Anyone else have that?
Quote from: Mark Olson on November 04, 2010, 12:53:30 PM
Installed a fork brace on the fj and noticed a big difference. :gamer: :good2: :good2:
I'm glad to hear that Mark. I installed a super brace this spring but at the same time that I rebuilt my forks with new bushings and cartridge emulators. There is a vast improvement in the feel, ride and handling of the front end, but I wasn't sure if the fork brace was contributing to any of this. Thanks for the report.
Mark
Quote from: billwest on November 06, 2010, 06:12:26 AM
Installed my new 10-row oil cooler, with braided oil lines.
Put new seals in the clutch slave cylinder, replaced clutch fluid and bled it. I notice that the action is quite light. This is with an FJR1300 master cylinder. Anyone else have that?
Bill, by changing to the FJR master cylinder you have a stronger hydraulic advantage over the stock FJ master cylinder. The lighter clutch pull is normal when switching over. Enjoy your updated controls. No worries...
Eric M
Quote from: Yamifj1200 on November 06, 2010, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: billwest on November 06, 2010, 06:12:26 AM
Installed my new 10-row oil cooler, with braided oil lines.
Put new seals in the clutch slave cylinder, replaced clutch fluid and bled it. I notice that the action is quite light. This is with an FJR1300 master cylinder. Anyone else have that?
Bill, by changing to the FJR master cylinder you have a stronger hydraulic advantage over the stock FJ master cylinder. The lighter clutch pull is normal when switching over. Enjoy your updated controls. No worries...
Eric M
+1 on what Eric said..... you can now double up your stock clutch spring and not have to be popeye to operate it :good2:
KOokaloo!
Quote from: markmartin on November 06, 2010, 09:02:07 AM
Quote from: Mark Olson on November 04, 2010, 12:53:30 PM
Installed a fork brace on the fj and noticed a big difference. :gamer: :good2: :good2:
I'm glad to hear that Mark. I installed a super brace this spring but at the same time that I rebuilt my forks with new bushings and cartridge emulators. There is a vast improvement in the feel, ride and handling of the front end, but I wasn't sure if the fork brace was contributing to any of this. Thanks for the report.
Mark
did a test run on the superbrace at the nor cal renegade rally , switched it back and forth between my bike and craig's . the fork brace made a difference on the stock fj front end that was very noticeable and when removed from my 86 that had springs and emulators I missed it in the first corner. Just wanted to see if it was all in my head or if the brace really did something for the fj.
The verdict is yes it makes a huge difference. I highly recommend everyone with fj forks getting one installed. :good2:
I purchased mine from George Bowers. The silent lurker.
I started upgrading my '86 front end with '89 forks, wheel and gold dot calipers. Half way there!
New oil & filter, and started it for the first time since the ECFR.
Randy T
Indy
Thanks for the clutch info, gents!
Haven't had a chance to ride it yet - I'm waiting on a $10 bracket for the front brake master cylinder, from boats.net (local Yamahahaha price is $88).
Then, I can check out the 4 degree advancer, the updated clutch and brake master cylinders, the oil cooler and so on.
Waiting.............
I removed the orange flapper valves in my gas tank cap, and lubricated all my lock cylinders with some 3-in-1 oil.........
Then I proceded to go on a 375 miles ride today around Arizona.....No issues with pushing gas out thru the key hole anymore.
Tested with multiple fillups. Tankbag and all! :yahoo:
I pulled the trigger on a new front end today.Actually it turned into a complete frame, swing arm, and forks/triple tree.It's a 1995 yzf750r.I'm going to need to arrange the shipping to get it from Colorado to NH.
I told myself I wouldn't do it until I needed tires.I have managed to trash the left side of the Chin Shin front tire in pretty much one summer.I have felt since day one that this bike was pushing the front end real hard,and I guess the tire is proof of it.
Now I need wheels and brakes.I'm looking at some r6 five spoke wheels.The r6 still used a mechanical speedo drive with these wheels.When the yzf750r gets here I will see if a swing arm change is practical.
All the body parts are coming off for paint this winter.I got the engine/carb working the way I want this summer, so that is staying as is.
Quote from: RACER111V on November 07, 2010, 10:12:05 AM
I pulled the trigger on a new front end today.Actually it turned into a complete frame, swing arm, and forks/triple tree.It's a 1995 yzf750r.I'm going to need to arrange the shipping to get it from Colorado to NH.
I told myself I wouldn't do it until I needed tires.I have managed to trash the left side of the Chin Shin front tire in pretty much one summer.I have felt since day one that this bike was pushing the front end real hard,and I guess the tire is proof of it.
Now I need wheels and brakes.I'm looking at some r6 five spoke wheels.The r6 still used a mechanical speedo drive with these wheels.When the yzf750r gets here I will see if a swing arm change is practical.
All the body parts are coming off for paint this winter.I got the engine/carb working the way I want this summer, so that is staying as is.
do you have an upgraded rear shock ?
once i got rid of the soft stock shock on my FJ and replaced it with a Penske my front end pushing issues (and accelerated tire wear) disappeared
KOokaloo!
Still had the stock '86 shock (30k miles).
New pressure plate/clutch spring came today so I will be doubling up the spring today.Plate came with the spring I didnt need the plate.$17 on ebay,I couldnt pas it up lol....I guess I will be looking for a new master cylinder soon.
Well it wasn't today, but Saturday.
Changed oil, topped up fuel, added stabilizer, removed battery, put on tender, put up on stands, tossed the cover over and put her to bed for its long winter sleep..... :empathy:
Jake..... :ireful:
Clutch is done :yahoo:
finished greasing engine mounts. Tough job!
Quote from: las1200 on November 08, 2010, 07:01:19 PM
finished greasing engine mounts. Tough job!
It can be, but now tell us how worthwhile it is.
Do you wonder where the vibes have gone?
Arnie
today went for a lovely morning ride in the foothills around sacramento.
Wired up a cigarette socket last night. It's got a waterproof cover, and used about an entire roll of electrical tape on the rest. :biggrin:
I mounted it to the right handlebar and it works great. The intention is to use it to plug in my GPS. I still need to wire up an inline fuse and I will mount a small switch into the fairing panel on the right side (upper flat part). I found it very difficult to run any wires from the front to the battery. The wires run really close to the engine near the frame on the right side. I can't find any better place to run the wires. Any ideas?
BTW - I've ridden about 300 miles in the last 2 days and this thing is running REALLY good. I have a slight vibration right around 3,000 RPM, but otherwise runs very smooth! I got on the Hungarian "Autobahn" and held it at 110 MPH for about 35 minutes. What a rush. I was passed once.
I went "across the street" to Vienna, Austria and found an awesome motorcycle shop. For about $70 I got a cool tank bag that has a provision for my GPS. The massive amount of snowfall we have here is putting a severe limit on my motorcycling lately. I can barely control my car!
Put my new cans on and they sound great!
fixed front fender from cracked nut support with fiberglass...
every plastic piece is cracking here and there... needs constant attention.
sunny day, no snow, just chill... :dance:
over the past week...
Picked up Klavdy's old ride, picked up a truckload of stuff from Ritt, removed damaged stuff (disassembled to frame), cleaning and prepping for reassembly (ongoing), ordered more parts, ... found a couple of surprises along the way, but that's the fun part I guess.
I'm hoping to have it back together this month if I can get the remaining parts together.
I have pictures of the carcass, but I will post a compilation once is is done.
Frank
Quote from: Lotsokids on December 03, 2010, 06:32:58 AM
Quote from: 1tinindian on December 03, 2010, 02:01:09 AM
Put my new cans on and they sound great!
Pics?
It's all right here.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2989.msg25537#msg25537 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2989.msg25537#msg25537)
Leon
Quote from: Flynt on December 03, 2010, 08:32:04 AM
over the past week...
Picked up Klavdy's old ride, picked up a truckload of stuff from Ritt, removed damaged stuff (disassembled to frame), cleaning and prepping for reassembly (ongoing), ordered more parts, ... found a couple of surprises along the way, but that's the fun part I guess.
I'm hoping to have it back together this month if I can get the remaining parts together.
I have pictures of the carcass, but I will post a compilation once is is done.
Frank
Did you find all the pine cones? Klavdy must have scooped up a whole load of them, one even got into his tank bag. Not that I know anything of how it got in there, or who might have done it. :nea:
Quote from: FJmonkey on December 04, 2010, 05:56:04 PM
Quote from: Flynt on December 03, 2010, 08:32:04 AM
over the past week...
Picked up Klavdy's old ride, picked up a truckload of stuff from Ritt, removed damaged stuff (disassembled to frame), cleaning and prepping for reassembly (ongoing), ordered more parts, ... found a couple of surprises along the way, but that's the fun part I guess.
I'm hoping to have it back together this month if I can get the remaining parts together.
I have pictures of the carcass, but I will post a compilation once is is done.
Frank
Did you find all the pine cones? Klavdy must have scooped up a whole load of them, one even got into his tank bag. Not that I know anything of how it got in there, or who might have done it. :nea:
Only one PC came with the deal... it is a very nice example IMHO.
Quote from: Flynt on December 03, 2010, 08:32:04 AM
Picked up Klavdy's old ride.........ordered more parts, ... found a couple of surprises along the way, but that's the fun part I guess.
Frank
Hey Frank, did Marc have a second set of the YZF forks for you? If not, where did you find them? What kind of surprises did you find? Motor compression ok?
Pat
Marc had one remaining set of forks left. Hopefully only the sliders should be bent on the forks from Klavdy's FJ (cuz his had the kick ass internals). The goal is to send in the both sets of forks and swap the internals from the old forks into the new - keeping all of the good bits. We put dibs on those forks from Rit straight away while we were deciding wheather to fix up his bike ourselves or not.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 04, 2010, 10:59:55 PM
Quote from: Flynt on December 03, 2010, 08:32:04 AM
Picked up Klavdy's old ride.........ordered more parts, ... found a couple of surprises along the way, but that's the fun part I guess.
Frank
Hey Frank, did Marc have a second set of the YZF forks for you? If not, where did you find them? What kind of surprises did you find? Motor compression ok?
Pat
As Marsh confirmed, the forks were pre-reserved. I needed to do a bit of machining to make the calipers fit, but the bent set provided a nice guide. I got Marc's Akrapovic exhaust, matching custom subframe and side plates, main fairing and side scoop, and some other stuff he had from the '92. I've got more stuff coming from Marc and some from RPM, so I'm in deep cleaning mode getting ready to reassemble. I have not checked compression (great idea though, so I will), but based on how well the bike runs I doubt there's any problem there... (famous last words).
Surprises are common when you buy and fix old stuff. Goes with the territory and frequently the PO doesn't even know about them. The challenge is fix without drawing excess spousal attention or spending excess $$, neither of which has happened yet :drinks:
Some were minor like the front tire had unseated during the crash and was full of dirt and PC debris. Dismount, clean, check runout, mount, balance and we're good to go. Another minor one was the HID kit bulb housing had fallen apart (the little metal cap has come off, probably due to the fall)... since I was taking the fairing off anyway, this one was also easy to fix. Windscreen fit is not great, mirrors need replacement, Corbin pretty rough, steering head bearings shot, etc., so lot's of room to invest some energy and make this MY bike.
The most major issue thus far was the left side footpeg mount and shifter pivot. These are supposed to be nuts that are welded in, but they were kind of a mess on this bike. The holes were either stripped or, in the case of the shifter pivot, drilled out to a 3/8" hole and jury rigged with backing nuts and longer bolts. The resulting shifter action was really not useable, at least post wreck. A little cleanup, 1 helicoil, 1 nutsert and we're good to go with solid threads again :biggrin:
I am sending the forks to GP Suspension tomorrow, so hopefully no unexpected bad news there... I think that's the only remaining area where a big issue might surface :unknown:
Just looking at the suspension, brakes, big rear tire and beefy swingarm, etc. gives me continuous motivation to get her back on the road. And when the sun breaks out I still have the '90 sitting there to keep me entertained :bye2:
Frank
Quote from: Flynt on December 05, 2010, 09:07:26 AM
I needed to do a bit of machining to make the calipers fit, but the bent set provided a nice guide.
What exactly does this mean? The brake calipers were bent? Calipers are the the things with the blue dots that hold the pads. Did you mean the brake discs were bent? Even if you did mean that - I don't know why you would machine discs. So - I'm just confused on this I guess.
Where do I start.My front wheel (yzf750) is back from powder.Tire and bearing set should be here Tuesday.Fork springs (1k) are on their way.The fork upper tubes (yzf750) are getting dropped of for hard anodizing on Monday.They should be done in a couple days.They had a minimum charge so I am dropping of a spare set of uppers also.One set of forks has some wear on one of the lower tubes.I am going to stop by a hydrolic shop and see if they can repair it.That would give me a spare set of forks.I searched for a while for yzf750 six pot calipers and ended up getting a set from the UK.Right after they arrived I found a rear caliper for short money.When I went to pay for it he said he had a set of fronts if I wanted them for cheap.Now I have an extra set of six pot calipers.The rear wheel is on it's way here.I have to decide on a rear shock still.It looks like a low mileage '06,'07 600 shock will work.They have rebound,hi & lo speed compression adjustment.They seam to be the right length with the correct ends.A spring change will be necessary.The yzf750 front brake master showed up.I still need to locate a clutch master.I hope to have all the suspension and wheels done by the end of January.Then it's time for body work and paint.I still need to decide what it's going to look like.
Quote from: Flynt on December 05, 2010, 09:07:26 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 04, 2010, 10:59:55 PM
Quote from: Flynt on December 03, 2010, 08:32:04 AM
Picked up Klavdy's old ride.........ordered more parts, ... found a couple of surprises along the way, but that's the fun part I guess.
Frank
Hey Frank, did Marc have a second set of the YZF forks for you? If not, where did you find them? What kind of surprises did you find? Motor compression ok?
Pat
As Marsh confirmed, the forks were pre-reserved. I needed to do a bit of machining to make the calipers fit, but the bent set provided a nice guide. I got Marc's Akrapovic exhaust, matching custom subframe and side plates, main fairing and side scoop, and some other stuff he had from the '92. I've got more stuff coming from Marc and some from RPM, so I'm in deep cleaning mode getting ready to reassemble. I have not checked compression (great idea though, so I will), but based on how well the bike runs I doubt there's any problem there... (famous last words).
Surprises are common when you buy and fix old stuff. Goes with the territory and frequently the PO doesn't even know about them. The challenge is fix without drawing excess spousal attention or spending excess $$, neither of which has happened yet :drinks:
Some were minor like the front tire had unseated during the crash and was full of dirt and PC debris. Dismount, clean, check runout, mount, balance and we're good to go. Another minor one was the HID kit bulb housing had fallen apart (the little metal cap has come off, probably due to the fall)... since I was taking the fairing off anyway, this one was also easy to fix. Windscreen fit is not great, mirrors need replacement, Corbin pretty rough, steering head bearings shot, etc., so lot's of room to invest some energy and make this MY bike.
The most major issue thus far was the left side footpeg mount and shifter pivot. These are supposed to be nuts that are welded in, but they were kind of a mess on this bike. The holes were either stripped or, in the case of the shifter pivot, drilled out to a 3/8" hole and jury rigged with backing nuts and longer bolts. The resulting shifter action was really not useable, at least post wreck. A little cleanup, 1 helicoil, 1 nutsert and we're good to go with solid threads again :biggrin:
I am sending the forks to GP Suspension tomorrow, so hopefully no unexpected bad news there... I think that's the only remaining area where a big issue might surface :unknown:
Just looking at the suspension, brakes, big rear tire and beefy swingarm, etc. gives me continuous motivation to get her back on the road. And when the sun breaks out I still have the '90 sitting there to keep me entertained :bye2:
Frank
Sounds like you got your hands full of stuff to do. I am glad you are putting the bike back together .
should be good to go for the west coast rally by june right?
lots of luck on the project, keep the faith. :good2:
Quote from: Marsh White on December 05, 2010, 09:41:43 AM
Quote from: Flynt on December 05, 2010, 09:07:26 AM
I needed to do a bit of machining to make the calipers fit, but the bent set provided a nice guide.
What exactly does this mean? The brake calipers were bent? Calipers are the the things with the blue dots that hold the pads. Did you mean the brake discs were bent? Even if you did mean that - I don't know why you would machine discs. So - I'm just confused on this I guess.
Nothing bent. The originals needed a modification that Marc told me about... you just have to machine (or file or whatever) the web part off the lower that interferes with mounting the blue dots. Really no big deal and only a very small amount of material is removed and I had the modded but bent set to guide the work. Kind of hard to describe without a picture, but if you look carefully of the pics in the for sale add and compare to a stock set you will see it.
Frank
Quote from: Flynt on December 05, 2010, 02:40:45 PM
Quote from: Marsh White on December 05, 2010, 09:41:43 AM
Quote from: Flynt on December 05, 2010, 09:07:26 AM
I needed to do a bit of machining to make the calipers fit, but the bent set provided a nice guide.
What exactly does this mean? The brake calipers were bent? Calipers are the the things with the blue dots that hold the pads. Did you mean the brake discs were bent? Even if you did mean that - I don't know why you would machine discs. So - I'm just confused on this I guess.
Nothing bent. The originals needed a modification that Marc told me about... you just have to machine (or file or whatever) the web part off the lower that interferes with mounting the blue dots. Really no big deal and only a very small amount of material is removed and I had the modded but bent set to guide the work. Kind of hard to describe without a picture, but if you look carefully of the pics in the for sale add and compare to a stock set you will see it.
Frank
Oh...you are talking about having to mod the NEW set of fork lowers you got from Rittner to match the bent set on the bike to accept the Blue Dot calipers...gotcha. I didn't even know about that needing to be done in the first place! (the joy of having Rittner do all of the work previously I guess!)
Quote from: RACER111V on December 05, 2010, 10:54:37 AM
I have to decide on a rear shock still.It looks like a low mileage '06,'07 600 shock will work.They have rebound,hi & lo speed compression adjustment.
They seam to be the right length with the correct ends.
Keep me posted on that Glenn.
It would be good to know
Fitted a Dyna2000 ignition, 2.2 Ohm coils and new plug leads.......hopefully I have my Kookaloo back.
Now if it will just stop raining!
Harvy
I let my 19 year old offspring ride it for a 3 day weekend. We did 1300km, and the bike never missed a beat. Two of my other sons also joined in. All up we had: FJ1200, ZX12R, FZ1N, and my ZZR1200. Excellent riding in Western Australia's south west region, occasionally accompanied by some drizzle.
It was a chance to test out some of the modifications, like FJR clutch and front brake master cylinders, 4 degree advancer, Hagon shock, shorter dogbones. All good!
Bill.
Quote from: Travis398 on December 05, 2010, 05:18:21 PM
Quote from: RACER111V on December 05, 2010, 10:54:37 AM
I have to decide on a rear shock still.It looks like a low mileage '06,'07 600 shock will work.They have rebound,hi & lo speed compression adjustment.
They seam to be the right length with the correct ends.
Keep me posted on that Glenn.
It would be good to know
If the R6R shock works for glenn I have one laying around. I thought it would work on my FZ1 but ended up about 1/2" short so it's up for grabbs
Rode my motorcycle in the snow (28 F) to fill it up with gas, put some Stabil in it, and put it in the workshop for the winter using a long ramp and a lot of help. :rofl2: Now I can start my numerous winter projects! :crazy:
I accidentally washed it yesterday. Thought I could sneak out for a quick jaunt in the Angeles Crest, suited up and zipped off to the fill up station near the turn off to the hills. Hmmmm..that smells like fresh rain...Bugger!!! It started to rain while I was filling up. Ride back in the rain and cover her up again and hope next weekend is rain free. At least it wasn't snow and or I did not leave an hour earlier and have to slog back in even more rain.
Dyna2000 = Kookaloous Re-obtainus. :yahoo:
Harvy
Quote from: Harvy on December 07, 2010, 04:46:10 PM
Dyna2000 = Kookaloous Re-obtainus. :yahoo:
Harvy
So the ignition was shutting the party down at 6Kish? Congrats on the fix! That's a great feeling, eh?
Quote from: Harvy on December 07, 2010, 04:46:10 PM
Dyna2000 = Kookaloous Re-obtainus. :yahoo:
Harvy
Glad to see the sun shines from your FJ again, even if it doesn't make it to the road. :-)
Arnie
I can't really say what it was that was causing it to run like shit at around 6500.
I've had the idea to go with a Dyna2000 ignition for a few years now, but never had the 'need' until now.
It may have been the Ignition box, the coils or the plug leads......... All three have been replaced now anyway so I will never know.
Anyway, the sun finally arrived this morning, so the ride into work proved the fix! Seeing the tacho run smoothly past 6500 and on up to 9000 made me VERY happy.
Harvy
Quote from: Harvy on December 07, 2010, 05:26:46 PM
Seeing the tacho run smoothly past 6500 and on up to 9000 made me VERY happy.
Harvy
I feel the exact same way Harvy! :good2:
Glad she's all better now.
KOokaloo!
Installed the Renntec engine guards today.......Was a piece of cake. Just involved removing the chin fairing, prying off those chrome caps over the upper engine mount bolt holes, and removing 3 bolts on each side(the 2 frame rail bolts at the front, and the upper rearset bolt)
Bolt-on was a breeze. The 2 front frame rail bolts are re-used. The rear bolt is too short, and you must use a longer one(which Marc supplied. Thanks)
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I also installed the Superbrace.........
This was probably the easiest mod I have ever done............Just clamp it on, and tighten the 4 screws.(I did have to remove my fork protectors though. I'll see if I can adapt them to the superbrace, or try and find the ones that are made for it)
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I didn't get a chance to ride her today though.........I spent some time trying to diagnose why my right turn signal quit working Saturday.......I took it apart, and cleaned the left control switch assembly, and checked all the bulbs, but no fix :dash2:.......I'll have to dig deeper into it later this week.
Quote from: Firehawk068 on December 08, 2010, 09:05:28 PM
The rear bolt is too short, and you must use a longer one(which Marc supplied. Thanks)
I also installed the Superbrace.........
I'll see if I can adapt them to the superbrace, or try and find the ones that are made for it)
With regard to the rear engine guard bolt........ I'm not sure if this applies to the pre '91 guards, but on the '91+ guards, there is also a spacer that goes between the guard and the hanger bracket to take up the space that was originally occupied by the head of the OEM bolt.
As for the Superbrace.......it has been reported that the fork protectors that mount to the brace can contact the bottom of the fairing on compression of the forks while cornering.......just something to be aware of.
Harvy
Had to replace the battery in the FJ today. Wouldn't hold a charge. So I hopped on my cruiser to go to the cycle store and the battery was dead in that one too! GERRR. :dash2: So a quick charge and off I went. Mission successful.
I just hope the battery in the cruiser is still good as it cost twice as much as the FJ battery.
Quote from: Harvy on December 08, 2010, 09:26:25 PM
With regard to the rear engine guard bolt........ I'm not sure if this applies to the pre '91 guards, but on the '91+ guards, there is also a spacer that goes between the guard and the hanger bracket to take up the space that was originally occupied by the head of the OEM bolt.
The engine guards have a built-in washer that is welded to the back here.......it fits in the area you are describing, and when tightened down, contacts where the old bolt head did........I double checked to make sure the guards do not contact the rearsets....
Quote from: Firehawk068 on December 09, 2010, 08:33:10 PM
Quote from: Harvy on December 08, 2010, 09:26:25 PM
With regard to the rear engine guard bolt........ I'm not sure if this applies to the pre '91 guards, but on the '91+ guards, there is also a spacer that goes between the guard and the hanger bracket to take up the space that was originally occupied by the head of the OEM bolt.
The engine guards have a built-in washer that is welded to the back here.......it fits in the area you are describing, and when tightened down, contacts where the old bolt head did........I double checked to make sure the guards do not contact the rearsets....
Ahha.......all good then!
Harvy
I dove into the winter maintenance/upgrades. Fork seals leaking on both bikes, took plastics off and they need a little work as well.
I started with mine...
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/80_11_12_10_9_11_17.jpeg)
Got the forks apart; motor coming out tomorrow.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/80_11_12_10_9_12_00.jpeg)
Both bikes will be getting the once over, as well as several planned upgrades. No major mods planned, but some upgrades to several systems.
Spring is right around the corner...
Randy - RPM
(Marsh & Pat, I finally figured it out...)
The front wheel is back from powder coat.It was yellow when I got it,so i glass beaded it and sent it out.The rear wheel was already black,so it got a coat of rattle can black,and a new tire.The front got new bearings and seals,new tire, and the rotors remounted.I also got the swingarm cleaned up.It's ready to modify and mount.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_11_12_10_9_59_01.jpeg)
The fork springs will be here Monday.The upper fork legs went out to get hard anodized Wednesday.They should be back this week.I'm going to start with the stock cartridges for now.I do have a spare set to send out if there not up to the job.I found a spot in the shop to start ripping it down.
Spent some time diagnosing the wiring to figure out why the right blinker quit working.......
Took the switch assembly apart(again), and checked power through there.........then followed harness and found on the left side of the frame up under the fairing there is a large blue connector that is zip-tied to the frame......The power ended here.
Took said connector apart, and cleaned all contacts......Reassembled......Now all is well! :good2:
Stayed a little late at work and started tearing it down.It was hard to find a space in the shop that wasn't being used. (http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_16_12_10_9_41_14.jpeg)
Got a little more done today.I finally managed to wrestle the old arm off.I took some measurements on the pivot lengths.The 1986 FJ was 9.940".The 1995 yzf750r measured 10.065".So I pressed the bearings in about .070" more.Then I set it up in the milling machine and milled off .063" on each side.Things like this are a pain to set up in the mill.It was about 45 minutes to set it up and about 30 seconds to cut it.The other side was a little faster. http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_18_12_10_3_22_07_1.jpeg (http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_18_12_10_3_22_07_1.jpeg)
I did a little investigation on using the yzf shock link.It uses a 10mm bolt as opposed to the fj 12mm bolt.It is also a little narrower.The kicker was the longest shock I could use was 9" long.The stock 86 shock is about 11.5" long.The yzf600 is about 12.5" and the yzf750 is almost 15".I think I will go ahead and order a 07 yzf600 shock and just make the link I need.
I did get the swing arm mounted and slipped the wheel in place.
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How much wider is that arm at the rear axle bolt (than stock)? It looks mighty close to the passenger peg mount, but the extra wow factor is definitely there.
Doug
It is close,but it does clear the mounts.I may change the passenger peg plates.It is on the bottom of the list now,but it may move up.It matters how serious i get about the saddle bags.
Hey Glenn, that's gonna be cool.
Be careful and make sure you check the full range of motion of that swing arm with your subframe and fenders mounted and rear master cylinder and brake line installed. Cycle it through with the shock disconnected.
It looks like it could be close in the area where the brace meets the pivot shaft....
The reason I say this, is that I have the YZF1000 T-ace swing arm and a hugger fender on my bike, and even with my rear end raised (adjustable dogbones) if my preload is too soft on my Penske shock, I can smack the hugger pretty good.
Yea, this is gonna be bitchen. Is that swing arm longer than the FJ's or is that just a optical collusion? Kudos! Pat
It's the same length as the FJ arm.I will be sure to check the compressed clearance.
Quote from: racerrad8 on December 11, 2010, 09:23:11 PM
Both bikes will be getting the once over, as well as several planned upgrades. No major mods planned, but some upgrades to several systems.
Randy - RPM
Well, I can't go much further...
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Randy - RPM
For the love of Christ Randy- Stop before it's too late! You'll never find all the pieces! Glad you're not into horses, that would make for even more disturbing tear down photos.
Doug
That's why Randy has a Polish blue print to put it back togther again :lol: :lol: :wacko1:
Wow Randy.. Quite a little project you've started.
Might as well clean and repack the steering head bearings while you've got it torn down that far. That is if you haven't done so already. :)
I looked longingly at the newest addition to my stable (1989 fj1200),which was the bike that brought me into contact with you all here at fjowners.com the best resource i have found on the web for anything. Merry Christmas to all.....I have the next week 1/2 off from work I will get my new aquisition up on its centerstand for the first time since i have owned it and give everything a good assesment.....I should have done this at purchase time however the 800 pricetag x beutifull bike/great condition for 20 year old bike = instant boner =600miles of late season new england riding fun .........anyway gonna make everything shipshape and safe for the spring Happy Holiday to all
Quote from: Keith on December 22, 2010, 04:40:24 PM
I looked longingly at the newest addition to my stable (1989 fj1200),which was the bike that brought me into contact with you all here at fjowners.com the best resource i have found on the web for anything. Merry Christmas to all.....I have the next week 1/2 off from work I will get my new aquisition up on its centerstand for the first time since i have owned it and give everything a good assesment.....I should have done this at purchase time however the 800 pricetag x beutifull bike/great condition for 20 year old bike = instant boner =600miles of late season new england riding fun .........anyway gonna make everything shipshape and safe for the spring Happy Holiday to all
Get that thing ready for the northeast rally at the end of July.You will love the roads and scenery up there.
Get that thing ready for the northeast rally at the end of July.You will love the roads and scenery up there.
Ya what he said maybe even some of the people :rofl2: :drinks: :drinks: :drinks: :drinks:
Bob
Quote from: weymouth399 on December 22, 2010, 08:05:31 PM
You will love the roads and scenery up there.
Ya what he said maybe even some of the people :rofl2: :drinks: :drinks: :drinks: :drinks:
Bob
I like you folks and all, but I will NOT be lovin' some of the people. That's what they do at the Harley rallies- or so I've heard. I don't own the assless chaps, so prob'ly wouldn't "blend" there!
I'm looking forward to this weekend.I have a couple boxes of parts,and friday and saturday to work at the shop.I'm driving over to Factory Connection on my way into work tomorrow.They don't do street suspension,but they are old friends.I called them for some advice on getting the uppers hard anodized.The plater is starting to scare me a little.They seem a little worried about ruining them.Tim at FC said to bring them by and he will bring them to his plater.
I got the rear shock top mount modified and now the shock fits.I had to do some clearance work on the yzf750 swing arm to work with the non-remote shock bladder.
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I gathered up the dimensions to make the relay link.He's step one.
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I got it sawed and squared up.Tomorrow I hope to get the link finished and the suspension mounted.I'm going to use the FJ spring as a starting point.I'm not looking forward to working with these springs.
Please be careful, springs can bite. :diablo:
CraigO
90 FJ1200
Yesterday was in the uper 50's so I took the old girl ror a ride :good:
I had my new Garmin etrex with the max speed feature so I GPS'd her on the highway.Couldnt get a top speed because of trafic and it was wet but I made a few good passes top speed was around 9000 rpm.(didnt post my speed or what gear I was in).At those rpm my speedometer was +23 mph,quite inacurate.It might be some time till I can go out again so it was awesome to feel the bike under me.
Got to try out the new helmet too lol......
After spending most of last night cleaning out the fuel system (again! Got water in the tank over the winter as I have no undercover parking at work and the tank seals were shot) I finally took it out to the deli up the road to "test" it. Finally found out it was the new inline fuel filter that was not working properly. a larger, but cheaper. one did the trick and the fuel flows wonderfully.
Off to the cinema tomorrow and the estuary the day after. Would be nice if it were a little cooler though.
Quote from: Flying Scotsman on January 02, 2011, 12:27:59 AM
Yesterday was in the uper 50's so I took the old girl for a ride
<snip> I made a few good passes top speed was around 9000 rpm.(didn't post my speed or what gear I was in).
Never did understand this mentality. You did not say what state you were riding in, nor did it have to be your home state. Speeding, last time I checked, was not a federal crime. From where I sit for example, I can ride in any of 4 states within an hour. (NJ, DE, MD and PA) so there'd be no way for the cops to figure who can even issue the ticket. Even if the correct state cops could 1) Figure out which state the 'crime' occurred in 2) who exactly you are/ where you live 3)whether or not you were just bragging; why would they?
I guess it has happened, but I would assume that it was a many-times-over repeat offender type, that had really pissed off the cops, that bragged one to many times, and they caught him. Just deserts there.
Anyway, I don't think I'd worry about it. But that's me.
Dan
The point of my post was only that I got to take the old girl out.I dont like talking about going fast although I will admit I like it more than I should.The 85 had not been out for a few weeks and was begging to go.I needed to test the gps and was disapointed that the speedo was of 23 mph I was not impressed how fast I was going.GPS worked great it even works in the house.
Dan I dont see you posting your top speed anywhere !
What is it ?.It can be down hill uphill in the house on the back of a flatbed on a race track.I dont care where.whats your top speed on your fj ?
I do try and police what I say here but it seems that there are a few who think its there job to police what i say for some strange reason.I try not to tell people what they should or should not say but thats just me.
Quote from: Dan Filetti on January 02, 2011, 06:01:43 AM
Quote from: Flying Scotsman on January 02, 2011, 12:27:59 AM
Yesterday was in the uper 50's so I took the old girl for a ride
<snip> I made a few good passes top speed was around 9000 rpm.(didn't post my speed or what gear I was in).
Never did understand this mentality. You did not say what state you were riding in, nor did it have to be your home state. Speeding, last time I checked, was not a federal crime. From where I sit for example, I can ride in any of 4 states within an hour. (NJ, DE, MD and PA) so there'd be no way for the cops to figure who can even issue the ticket. Even if the correct state cops could 1) Figure out which state the 'crime' occurred in 2) who exactly you are/ where you live 3)whether or not you were just bragging; why would they?
I guess it has happened, but I would assume that it was a many-times-over repeat offender type, that had really pissed off the cops, that bragged one to many times, and they caught him. Just deserts there.
Anyway, I don't think I'd worry about it. But that's me.
Dan
Quote from: Flying Scotsman on January 02, 2011, 10:18:06 AM
Dan I don't see you posting your top speed anywhere !
huh??? You're dead wrong on this point and/or simply not paying attention. I have no less than 4 posts where I have discussed the Ninja 250 being able to do "105" and an "indicated 115" and the FJ doing 156, and my current Gixxer 750 doing 178....
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3193.msg26498#msg26498 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3193.msg26498#msg26498)
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=profile;u=12;sa=showPosts;start=150 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=profile;u=12;sa=showPosts;start=150)
Here's one where I talk about generally riding "20-30% over the posted speed limits:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2280.msg19754#msg19754 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2280.msg19754#msg19754)
Here ANOTHER ONE where I say that the FJ would show 156, and my current Gixxer 178.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2858.msg23598#msg23598 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2858.msg23598#msg23598)
How would I know these indicated speeds if I had not done it??
Quote from: Flying Scotsman on January 02, 2011, 10:18:06 AM
I try not to tell people what they should or should not say but that's just me.
Go back and read my post: I DID NOT tell you what to do or not do, I said I do not understand this thinking. It was a general observation, using your cryptic reference to speeding as an example. Post/ don't post what you want, but, as per the above I CLEARLY have behaved consistent with my observation.
Net net: get over your damn self.
Dan
My bad then Dan :flag_of_truce:I am far from perfect and try not to judge others.I was wrong.
today I looked at the fj in the garage , looked at the rain coming down out side , looked at the fj in the garage , looked at the rain coming down outside. :dash2: :dash2: :dash2:
Quote from: racerrad8 on December 19, 2010, 05:50:09 PM
Well, I can't go much further...
Randy - RPM
Well, since I was cleaning things up as I had this oil leak coming from somewhere at the back of the cylinder, I found a couple of things I figured I'd better address since I was this far in.
I found the parting line at the base of the cylinder oozing out with red silicone as well as the parting line of the case and the pan. I pulled the pan and decided to tear it down to get things cleaned up. The person that did the engine assumed the oil leak was coming from the base gasket as the silicone covered that area at the back of the engine.
Whit I found was the copper washer that seals the rear chain guide rod in the case was missing; there was the leak.
Here are a few pictures of the parts after I have run them through the washer and you can see the improper use of silicone on the parting line of the case. Some had replaced one of the three shift fork to the updated forks, but now it will get them all; other than that it is going to go back together.
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/FJEngine002.jpg)
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/FJEngine001.jpg)
I should have taken a picture of the P/U screen, but I didn't and it is already in the dumpster.
Randy - RPM
I had to modify the relay link that I finally finished machining.The spring ended up to close to the rear of the shock opening in the arm.I relocated the the shock mounting point a little farther forward on the link.Now it's time to modify the subframe to clear the bracing on the swing arm.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_16_01_11_9_46_22_0.jpeg)
The left side is cut and relocated,the right side is stock.
I have to get some tubing to brace back to the rear.I'll get some pictures of the finished subframe.It will clean up the look now that all the tubes will be behind the side covers.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_16_01_11_9_50_19_7.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_16_01_11_9_50_18_6.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_16_01_11_9_50_17_5.jpeg)
Very clever subframe mod, starting to look like you're gonna bob it and put a different tail on! That swingarm looks damn nice.
That arm looks absolutely awesome on there.
Quote from: carsick on January 16, 2011, 11:42:19 PM
Very clever subframe mod, starting to look like you're gonna bob it and put a different tail on! That swingarm looks damn nice.
How did you guess.I've seen some nice LED strip lights come through the shop.I'm thinking of getting rid of the enormous tail light and use brighter LED's.I can tuck the plate up in the tail so it will not hang down below the tail.
A la SV650 style? Two vertical LED stripes tucked neatly into the tail section.
That'd be cool on the FJ.
Dan
Hey Racer, looking at your subframe mod, I would worry about that single tube (per side) supporting the weight. That's quite a cantilever load on them. Pat
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 17, 2011, 01:11:13 PM
Hey Racer, looking at your subframe mod, I would worry about that single tube (per side) supporting the weight. That's quite a cantilever load on them. Pat
+1... GMTA, Pat!
Randy T
Indy
...... That's a good point Pat,.. Even tho I have my.. single tubes..bolted to the stock position on the subframe, and they are underneath the front seat, I hesitate, to have any more than a lightweight on the back.
.... looking at the pic's,..It does look like alot of support has been removed !!
Jeff
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 17, 2011, 01:11:13 PM
Hey Racer, looking at your subframe mod, I would worry about that single tube (per side) supporting the weight. That's quite a cantilever load on them. Pat
Like I said below the picture,I have some tubing coming to finish bracing to the back.As a solo bike,I could probably get with it this way.There isn't much weight behind the brace point.
ooops, missed that. Good deal.
I was thinking, that with only a solo rider and no passenger or luggage, 1/2 of the rider seat loads are carried by the back 2 seat pan rubber bumpers, and 1/2 the seat load is carried by the front 2 bumpers. In reality, depending on the position of the rider, the front 2 bumpers will be carrying ~80% of the seat loading.
Regardless, you have figured it out....More picts of the final subframe please! This is very cool.
I think it will be fine Glenn, Just put one of these on it
(http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/public/elUVQ8Ay-gncS6SF8V1_i7qcLNehbT5Bff3VKxYD4xqkpSH47TB9Rqx3__t55YukzBi02o9bGM4Sh_wwRsuA42CtsmMQWAF54DMwvsMmVngwCZREZAnq163KefKU_wtEcJ3rzgo0oPhSDwZLJwiNH_cxnQRSHQIPgt4)
...... RACER111V, sorry about that.
Quote from: RACER111V on January 17, 2011, 06:47:29 AM
".....I've seen some nice LED strip lights come through the shop.I'm thinking of getting rid of the enormous tail light and use brighter LED's.I can tuck the plate up in the tail so it will not hang down below the tail.
Racer, FYI I trimmed down my tail light and installed some LEDs. http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=1629.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=1629.0)
It turned out great. Love the bright LED's. Now the bottom edge of the tail light follows the bottom contour line of the side panels.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/49_13_03_10_12_25_34.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/49_13_03_10_12_24_30.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/49_13_03_10_12_26_56.jpeg)
Installed the extra clutch pressure plate that Randy sent me. Talk about instant grab! Not that I had any real clutch slip issues. The FJR master cylinder comes in handy here.
Vibranators - I no longer feel any vibrations.
Pat, what rear hugger do you have on your bike?
Bill.
Pyramid Plastics (UK) Hugger for the YZF1000 Thunder Ace swing arm (picts. on page 5 of the FJ Bike Gallery) Cheers!
Thanks,
I'm just wondering what hugger will fit with the OEM swingarm, and a GSXR wheel, with top-mounted brake caliper.
Bill.
Bill, L A Mike has a hugger on his FJ swing arm. A very clean installation. Looks oem.
I think he said that it was off a Gixxer....That reminds me, L A Mike owes us some pictures and a write up on this...
Changed the plugs, oil and filter (last change I had to use valvolene and I hate it, switched to Silkolene) Pulled off the fairing ready to change the fork seals and do my first mod (headlight relays) then had to put the whole lot back together before I could get anywhere because the mechanic who changed the gaskets on our Subaru Outback didn't torque the rocker cover bolts properly and...well, let's just say it was close to catastrophic and very smoky. The Ford (Mercury) cougar is a heap of crap that needs more work than I can afford; having paid thousands for the original Subaru rebuild, so now I have to sit on my hands and wait!
Bugger.
I got the subframe bracing done.I glass beaded it as I will be adding some more brackets to relocate the battery and electrics.I may also add a couple lugs for some future hard bags.Here's a couple shots.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_22_01_11_4_10_14_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_22_01_11_4_10_13_1.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_22_01_11_4_10_12_0.jpeg)
nice looking work Glenn, I can't wait to see that this summer, and talk you into letting me ride it (popcorn)
Over the weekend i pulled the front cowling off to get to the guage pod so i could get the bloody speedo cable back on ( it came undone and fell off, then dragged along the ground without me noticing for an undetermined amount of time) i got it back on with a bit of mild persuasion involving gritted teeth and pliers.
While i had the front off i noticed there was quite a lot of bolts missing hence the major rattle issues i had in the front end.
After rummaging around my mates shed i mannaged to get the front end back on with nearly all of the necessary fasteners in place. This made a very pleasing aural difference throughout the rev range.
I also replaced the mirrors with some off the shelf aftermarket items i found in a bike shop over here (Japan have some rediculously extensive bike part stores) so i can see behind me instead of just looking at my arms. In addition to the functional positives they look great and transform the look of the whole front end.
I signed up for a "pointo cardo" while i was at the afformentioned bike store and they offered me a free oil change so i said "why not" as i dont have n e where to dispose of dirty oil where i live.
The result of the oil change was it leaked oil when it did not before... so they did it again (all free of charge) it seems ok now but i guess i'll just keep an eye on it.
Over all a pruductive weekend :yes:
N E ways, pics.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/1241_23_01_11_11_48_23_0.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/1241_23_01_11_11_48_29_1.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/1241_23_01_11_11_48_35_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/1241_23_01_11_11_48_41_3.jpeg)
Those mirrors look FANTASTIC!! :good2: Best mirrors I've seen yet put on an 89. Tell us more about them. How much did they cost? Do they vibrate or is the picture clear? Is it a glass lens or plastic? Where can we order them without knowing Japanese?
What the hell do you want new mirrors for, Laughing Boy,haven't you got a new bike in your garage now?
Quote from: Klavdy on January 23, 2011, 07:39:53 PM
...haven't you got a new bike in your garage now?
I think I felt the rotation of the world increase yesterday; I think the Zodiac signs have now been realigned since last weeks news...
(http://www.theday.com/article/20110123/NWS08/301239930/-1/NWS (http://www.theday.com/article/20110123/NWS08/301239930/-1/NWS))
Has it made it back to the garage yet...I wonder?
Randy - RPM
I had a very productive Sunday. Yesterday I got the stock front end off.This mourning I pressed the FJ steering stem out. I built up some weld on the yzf lower clamp to relocate the stops.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_23_01_11_9_13_23_1.jpeg)
I milled it similar to the FJ clamp.The camera didn't like the milled surface.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_23_01_11_9_13_24_2.jpeg)
I got the upper tubes back from being black hard anodized.After trying several avenues , I ended back at the first place I went to.It ended up costing $225, but they did come out nice.I reassembled them with the stock cartridge, 1.0k springs, and oem seals and wipers..They went together without a problem.The rest just fell together.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_23_01_11_9_13_29_7.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_23_01_11_9_13_30_8.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_23_01_11_9_13_28_6.jpeg)
The next step is to fit handle bar clamps to the top tree.Time to order some more parts.
The mirrors are quite stable on the bike, their a nice solid unit.
It's a glass lens with some sort of fanciness that stops hid headlights from pissing you off.
It cost me about $155 US for the pair and if ur really keen i could probably track some more down n send them, shipping will be the killer though.
Quote from: RACER111V on January 23, 2011, 09:42:55 PM
I had a very productive Sunday. The next step is to fit handle bar clamps to the top tree.Time to order some more parts.
Oh man, nice, nice, nice. Did you not have any scrap lumber to make a stand? I think between the weight of the FJ and that round stock the floor is starting to crack...
Quote from: fb747 on January 23, 2011, 11:52:05 AM
(Japan have some rediculously extensive bike part stores)
I mused over whether you meant "expensive",
Quote from: fb747 on January 23, 2011, 09:51:40 PM
cost me about $155 US
apparently so! They are very nice though, thanks for showing another classy option.
Ha i did mean extensive but if expensive works for you!
Some of the bike shops here have heaps of toys to play with. Me n a mate spent about 6 hours at one yesterday just tinkering and looking at all the different bikes that came through.
"Classy option" i'm blushing :praising: no ones ever called something i've done classy before.
Well I got some more parts.I got the bar clamps from Summit racing of all places.They are stocking some bike and atv parts now.I decided to weld up a pad on the yzf750 top clamp and machine it to fit the bar clamps.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_29_01_11_5_06_15_1.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_29_01_11_5_06_16_2.jpeg)
I machined it,then blended it a little and glass beaded it again.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_29_01_11_5_09_10_0.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_29_01_11_5_09_11_1.jpeg)
I had to grind a little of the steering lock bracket off.I hope to remember to add a hole in the center of the steering lock bracket so it will lock at an angle, when I have the fairing off.I machined about .350" off the ignition switch mounting posts to get the locking peg to line up with hole in the locking bracket.I also had to grind a little material off the top clamp to clear the ignition switch body.It is an aftermarket switch so this may not need to be done with an OEM switch.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_29_01_11_5_09_17_7.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_29_01_11_5_09_18_8.jpeg)
I also started working on the counter-shaft sprocket.I got a 18T vfr sprocket.I machined the step down on the outside and left the step on the engine side,but the offset doesn't seem to be enough.I continued to cut a little counter-bore on the outside and added a hardened shim behind the sprocket.This looks the the line up is better now.Now that the bike is back on it's wheels, I'll get it up on a lift so I can check it better.
And today... polished windscreen with MODUS product.
looks much better now. must work a bit more on those deeper scraches though.
My bike is in my shop so I see it every day.
It's been sitting there for months now.
Today I succumbed, I sat on it.
Felt great
Today i did what we all say were not going to do but do it n e way... I pulled the bike to bits the day before a ride.
Thanks to Randy my clutch slave kit arrived just in time to get the new seals on and finally stop the damn thing leaking. This has made my clutch feel like a clutch again and stopped it slipping for now.
Then I thought i might just take the tank off as i hadn't done so yet scince i bought the bike.
This is what i found...
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/1241_05_02_11_6_33_33_0.jpeg)
Knowing i had rocker cover gasket and bolt seals sitting there i thought what the hey and proceded to crack the top off her.
This is the end result...
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/1241_05_02_11_6_33_48_2.jpeg)
It came up alright i think, and now my FJ is leak free!!!!!!
Now to start tidying her up a bit and bringing a bit more of that kOokaloooooo!!!
Ps. N e 1 got a good method for getting rocker cover gaskets to go where u want them to go when installing???
pps. Rocker cover gaskets are a pain in the ass.
Quote from: fb747 on February 05, 2011, 06:49:50 AM
Knowing i had rocker cover gasket and bolt seals sitting there i thought what the hey and proceded to crack the top off her.
Ps. N e 1 got a good method for getting rocker cover gaskets to go where u want them to go when installing???
pps. Rocker cover gaskets are a pain in the ass.
Did you adjust the rockers while you had it apart?
A few dabs of grease will hold the gasket in place while installing the cover.
I spent the day fitting / drilling and fine tuning the new faring before it goes off the be painted.
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u242/DD-FJR/FJ1200/FJ1200001-3.jpg)
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u242/DD-FJR/FJ1200/FJ1200002-5.jpg)
Quote from: Travis398 on February 05, 2011, 07:28:35 AM
Quote from: fb747 on February 05, 2011, 06:49:50 AM
Knowing i had rocker cover gasket and bolt seals sitting there i thought what the hey and proceded to crack the top off her.
Ps. N e 1 got a good method for getting rocker cover gaskets to go where u want them to go when installing???
pps. Rocker cover gaskets are a pain in the ass.
Did you adjust the rockers while you had it apart?
A few dabs of grease will hold the gasket in place while installing the cover.
No, didn't adjust the rockers. I wasn't sure what i was doing there so just left it within my capabilities. You will have to school me :unknown:
I thought about using grease and then promptly realised i had none... next time.
CMD, the new fairing looks the goods! :good2: Was it an easy fit? What lights are you going to use? It's not going to be yellow by n e chance?
Quote from: fb747 on February 08, 2011, 12:22:13 AM
It's not going to be yellow by n e chance?
OK, I guess I have to go Klavdy here. What the hell is 'n e'? Is that supposed to be 'any'? Are you kidding? Is that extra character too much to type? Or are you chipmonking with your pocket rocket? Have you ever noticed the spell check button that comes up wen you try to post a message?
Enough! Learn to communicate! :diablo:
wen?
Touché :rofl2:
all good... :good2:... i actually havnt done anything to my bike apart from wash it and polish it. have found that maguires? plastic polish works well on my tinted screen and autosol on the cans and rearsets... and i only washed it to encourage it too rain... dont like 41 deg c... touch to warm...
Quote from: Kopfjaeger on February 08, 2011, 01:45:01 AM
wen?
THAT is funny as all hell. "Hey pot, you're black, wait, what color am I?"
:rofl2: :lol:
:dash2: Spell check, dammit!
I wired up my 86' fuel petcock....Don't want the damn thing falling off.....Starting fires and such....
i dont know where the chock is on my fj1200 please somebody help
Is this a real question? chock?.....If misspelled for the fuel petcock then it is bolted to the bottom of your fuel tank. If it is not a misspell then WTF?
its a real question thought u could ask questions on here. i know its on the handle bars but not on this bike i just brought it and i dont know sry
Maybe he meant the choke for cold starts....maybe my bad....Left side, looks like a pull knob on 86/87 models. Pull out to choke, push in to unchoke.... :flag_of_truce:
87
im a girl
On the 87, the choke is on the left inner fairing (black piece of plastic) about half way up.
It should have a knob that says choke, but some are missing the knob at that point there would be a shaft shicking out instead.
Hope this helps, it's great that we have female FJrs :hi:
Bob W
i was thinking you had a pit crew!!! pull the chocks ... i'm off!!!! :good2:
Knocked over with a feather.....Not many FJ owners can say that. Welcome again. Tell us your story on how you came to to be an FJ owner and ride a very prized edition of the 86/87 bike. I am partial to the 86/87, best looking bikes. Almost as good as the one with the manly pink stripe.
If your coke knob is missing from the Left side you will need a few things to make it right. To get things started you can pull the post out with a pare of pliers, back in the same way. For going places either keep the pliers handy or get a knob and a the screw to secure it.
Quote from: nailzz on February 08, 2011, 08:06:33 PM
im a girl
ty
I went without a choke knob for a couple of years. I fished a keychain through the screw hole at the top of the post and used that. It works quite well.
QuoteIf your coke knob is missing
My beer opener went missing, but my coke knob is usually handy.
chock
QuoteOK, I guess I have to go Klavdy here. What the hell is 'n e'? Is that supposed to be 'any'? Are you kidding? Is that extra character too much to type? Or are you chipmonking with your pocket rocket? Have you ever noticed the spell check button that comes up wen you try to post a message?
Enough! Learn to communicate!
:mad:
Sry m8 ill try n b more astute in the future... have a bad day or something???
wen... he he he. :lol:
:flag_of_truce:
Back on topic i polished my clutch cover today as it was all oxidised and ugly looking.
Pic halfway through the task when i thought "damn i should have taken some before and after pix".
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/1241_09_02_11_6_44_17_0.jpeg)
pic of the result.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/1241_09_02_11_6_44_22_1.jpeg)
I used steel wool at first to get all the crusty stuff off then 1000 grit followed up by autoglym metal polish. It still needs a bit of work to get a nice even shine but it looks much better than before i started.
Careful application of a heavy bodied, water based paint stripper will get the clearcoat off, then it's easy sailing.....
It's a major PIA to remove the old clearcoat with steel wool.
use 2000 grit and then polish again to improve further more...
nice job :good2:
hey if your reaaaalllllyyyy dedicated... old trick my foreman taught me while i was polishing a hand vice i made.... 2000 grit wet and dry... some kero.... when at the LAST stage and looking for a good finish..... use the BACK of the 2000 grit wet and dry with kero... takes time but polishes up reeeeaaaallll nice!!! :morning2: i d show you my hand vice for an example but its a lovely shade of rust now... polished it and forgot to seal it!!!! stilll.... it does its job on my model kits!!!
Quote from: nailzz on February 08, 2011, 08:06:33 PM
im a girl
You are a girl.
That's your excuse?
Sure you want to use that?
You'll be treated as a girl.
Now STFU and go get me a sandwich.
You want to be treated as a Woman, as an equal,that's easy, we love women.
Start by respecting other forum members and post in an intelligible manner, you know, no Txt Spk, no excessive use of smilies, use sentences and paragraphs.
(popcorn)
:shok: (popcorn)
I decided to fix my bike by myself. I have a non starter issue. I bought and downloaded a manual for the 84 FJ1100. It said to check the battery. I looked at a youtube video of a guy checking his moped battery with an instrument. I drove to harborfreight and bought the instrument for 3.99. I tried to figure out where each plug goes and from failure to success ( and lots of sparks) was able to figure it out and test the battery. I tested the battery which tested a full charge. I looked at the manual which said to go to the starter solenoid and check to see if it works. I am suppose to create a mini jump for the starter solenoid to see if I can get a click. I'm trying to figure that out now.
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4944/ziy.mp4 (http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4944/ziy.mp4)
Still working the electrical problem - no power - no power to head lights and dash lights - checked main fuse and it seems okay.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5418/9od.mp4 (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5418/9od.mp4)
You've tried the obvious stuff, -right?
1. Maje certain the starter switch is not stuck part of the way in?
2. Side stand safety switch -try by-passing it?
3. Battery is good?
Keep us posted.
Quote from: Dan Filetti on February 13, 2011, 09:53:08 AM
You've tried the obvious stuff, -right?
1. Maje certain the starter switch is not stuck part of the way in?
2. Side stand safety switch -try by-passing it?
3. Battery is good?
Keep us posted.
thanks for the reply: I was going to try the starter solenoid but a friend told me if you have a full charged battery and you are getting nothing from turning the key on then you need to check the main fuse. I think it might now be between the main fuse and the battery. A line or something. But I do want to learn how to do the solenoid check.
While I was changing the brake and clutch masters,I decided to update the switches to something made in this century.The throttle and right side switch is 2003 R1.The left side switch is 2008 R6.The throttle cables are close but will need to be modified.I made some billet caps to replace the stock ones that will mount the reservoirs.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_13_02_11_9_47_18_4.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_13_02_11_9_47_14_0.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_13_02_11_9_50_18_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_13_02_11_9_50_17_1.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_13_02_11_9_50_16_0.jpeg)
..... It must be nice to have a machine shop !!
.. I am going to order the throttle cables for the FZ1 controls that I have,... today.
Jeff
Over the past week i've...
-Installed weighted bar ends to stop some of the vibes.
-Installed a new clutch diaphram spring and cover gasket so I now have nearly no slip.
-Cleaned out all the gunk behind the gear selector cover and replaced the gasket.
-Replaced my oil filler cap with a new aftermarket black anodised one.
-Got my passenger grab bars painted as they were scratched and faded.
The result is a much nicer ride with the looks to match. :good2:
My new tires came this week,Avon azaros. went and disconnected the res. plug. Sat on it and looked out the shop door at the snow coming down@minus 20 c. Wish it quit friggin snowin
Installed these new fancy bar ends...........Thank you Randy...
(http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab154/firehawk068/CIMG5406.jpg)
Then took the wheels off, cause my rear tire just started showing some cord..........
(http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab154/firehawk068/CIMG5409.jpg)
(http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab154/firehawk068/CIMG5410.jpg)
Put 2 new ones on, even though the front was only about half way through it's tread life. I went with the same Pirelli Angels that I had on there. I got 7600 miles out of them.......mostly slab miles unfortunately.
Is it just me, or does it seem like the cost of tires has gone up considerably in the past year?
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(http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab154/firehawk068/CIMG5412.jpg)
Oh, and I cleaned and lubed the chain while I had the rear wheel off.....Now ready to put some miles on her!
(http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab154/firehawk068/CIMG5413.jpg)
Damn Alan, that is a bitchen bike. I like your attention to details, like the R-1 gold spots with the gold rims...kudos!
I finally got around to installing my vibration eliminators as well , sun came out and the road was calling.
Quote from: Mark Olson on February 28, 2011, 11:29:39 AM
I finally got around to installing my vibration eliminators as well , sun came out and the road was calling.
Craig and Mark, let me know if you think they made a difference.
They do!
Quote from: Pat Conlon on February 27, 2011, 09:54:01 PM
Damn Alan, that is a bitchen bike. I like your attention to details, like the R-1 gold spots with the gold rims...kudos!
Yours is quite frankly, the most "Bitchen" FJ I have ever seen...........but thanks Pat.
I took mine for a short ride today (about an hour )
First thing I noticed was, HOLY CRAP! I forgot how much better a new set of tires feels.....It flicks over so much easier, and She feels about 100 lbs lighter when the tire profile is actually rounded! :yahoo:
Next, I paid attention to the "Vibrinator" bar ends........At low speed cruising, and lower rpm's(2000-4000) I couldn't tell that they made much, if any difference........At freeway speeds (4000-5000 rpm's) it seemed like they tune out some of the vibes in that range.....which is good if this is the case, cause this is where most of my long-distance riding is.......
I'm going to take her on a longer ride later this week, and see if they really make a difference in the way my hands feel.
Ok cool guys, I'm sure we will hear more reports as the weather warms up and folks can get out and put some miles on their bikes.
Here's one thing I noticed with the Vibranators: While on the freeway or other appropriate road, get up to 60-75mph, set your cruise control or throttle lock, then take your gloved hands and feel the bar ends. The Vibranator bar ends shake/vibrate a bunch huh? Yet that vibration does not transfer thru to the grips.
I think that's the tuned damper wiggling/vibrating which offsets/cancels the natural bar vibration. Kinda cool yet Wierd.
Fitted my new screen also the new mirrors and ordered the rear tail light led kit from RPM too
Well, I didn't actually do anything to the bike today..........except look at it :shok:
In anticipation of our upcoming move to Denver, I bought my FJ a present...........Now it's not one of those fancy, fully enclosed, luxury units, but it really didn't cost all that much, ($299 at Harbor Freight) it is really lightweight/easy to tow, and it also folds up for easier storage.
The only downsides were that it came in "some, and/or all assembly required" form......Also the Arizona DMV requires you to register it with permanent tag, wich cost $129. :ireful: The only consolation that they could provide was " When you move in a few months, you can declare it sold, turn in your tag, and get a credit back by mail" I'm not quite sure how I am going to pull this off from Denver :unknown:
Here it is in semi-assembled state.
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And in fully-assembled, ready to take to the DMV for inspection state.........I just have to add plywood decking, and bolt on my front wheel chock.
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After working with a custom link and r6 shock I've decided to go another route. The r6 shock is designed for a low ratio light bike. It has to much travel. I considered a bottoming spacer which I believe would would do the job. The cost of re-valving the shock was a little more than I originally thought. So I managed to find a used Fox Shock twin clicker. The valving should get me in the ball park. I located a '90 shock link (which turns out to be very closed to what I ended up making out of Aluminum). I got a #1400 spring for it. The bounce test tells me I am not to far off. I got the rear brake line and clutch master/line installed and bled.Today I did the front brake lines and battery box.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_05_03_11_10_38_29_4.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_05_03_11_10_38_30_5.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/1/270_05_03_11_10_38_26_0.jpeg)
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Riding season is coming up fast and I still have a lot to finish.
Got the Acewell Digital Dash installed over the weekend.
Pictures tonight.
Frank M - I ended up using the OEM dash. I cut holes in the clear cover for the cables to pass through and removed the OEM innards, replacing the inner face cover with a piece of black plastic I liberated out of my sons wrecked 300zx.
I now have a set of OEM cluster gauges if anyone is chasing them.
I also now know how to disable the 180KPH ignition cut-out on Japanese domestic models if anyone is interested.
I've also discovered that the Jap models have 2 extra wires going to the cluster via the 4 pin connector (which is a 6 wire connector on these models). I'm not sure what they are for as all the wiring diagrams I have do not show them. I have a feeling they may be part if the ignition cut-out. Anyway, I left them disconnected.
Another strange thing is the Neutral light connection. The light comes on when in gear and goes out when in Neutral if I have the clutch lever pulled in.... BUT..... If the clutch is engaged and I am actually moving, it functions in reverse.......most interesting! I have a feeling it may have something to do with the clutch micro-switch on my YZF750 clutch master which is a 3 pin rather than the usual 2 pin FJ unit. It also may have something to do with the fact that I am using a Dyna2000 ignition system, and the OEM ignition connectors are not connected to anything. A bit more investigation is in order!
Been an interesting mod, but I am very happy to have a speedometer again!
Cheers
Harvy
Harvy,
I'm almost as old as you, so I forget.
What year is your FJ?
DavidR.
Quote from: Harvy on March 06, 2011, 09:01:18 PM
Got the Acewell Digital Dash installed over the weekend.
Pictures tonight.
Frank M - I ended up using the OEM dash. I cut holes in the clear cover for the cables to pass through and removed the OEM innards, replacing the inner face cover with a piece of black plastic I liberated out of my sons wrecked 300zx.
them.
Another strange thing is the Neutral light connection. The light comes on when in gear and goes out when in Neutral
Cheers
Harvy
Nice,
Kookaloo!
for the nuetral light issue try switching the ground wire on the acewell for that light.
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on March 06, 2011, 09:45:31 PM
Harvy,
I'm almost as old as you, so I forget.
What year is your FJ?
DavidR.
'91 David (with the manly pink stripe of course)
Harvy
Quote from: racerman_27410 on March 06, 2011, 09:49:28 PM
Quote from: Harvy on March 06, 2011, 09:01:18 PM
Got the Acewell Digital Dash installed over the weekend.
Pictures tonight.
Frank M - I ended up using the OEM dash. I cut holes in the clear cover for the cables to pass through and removed the OEM innards, replacing the inner face cover with a piece of black plastic I liberated out of my sons wrecked 300zx.
them.
Another strange thing is the Neutral light connection. The light comes on when in gear and goes out when in Neutral
Cheers
Harvy
Nice,
Kookaloo!
for the nuetral light issue try switching the ground wire on the acewell for that light.
Yep, I thought of that too Frank, but this model has 1 ground wire to a 4 light module, so that won't work.
The more I think about it, the more I'm thinking that its the clutch switch..... I've just got back from a ride to make sure the speedo is in fact working (it is), and I am now seeing that when the clutch lever is pulled in, the N light comes on when in gear, but goes out when the clutch is engaged. I'll get it sorted eventually - just having a brian snap trying to wrap my brain around what I am seeing.
Harvy
"What did you do to your bike today?"
I RODE IT... finally! It's seemed like forever with snow, bad weather, trip to the U.S., etc... But she fired right up as I started it a couple times in the last month. No battery charger or anything. I'm impressed.
I was pushing it pretty hard on the way home and the front got a little light on our uneven roads and the bars were twitching a little. That's an uneasy feeling at about 100 - 120. I think I need to tighten the steering head a little.
Quote from: Lotsokids on March 08, 2011, 10:26:50 AM
"What did you do to your bike today?"
That's an uneasy feeling at about 100 - 120. I think I need to tighten the steering head a little.
Your head or the FJ? :lol:
Worn front tire will do that also.
Well, worn head will too, so ymmv.
Quote from: Scooterbob on March 08, 2011, 12:40:56 PM
Quote from: Lotsokids on March 08, 2011, 10:26:50 AM
"What did you do to your bike today?"
That's an uneasy feeling at about 100 - 120. I think I need to tighten the steering head a little.
Your head or the FJ? :lol:
YES....... to both. :wacko2:
Front tire is in very good condition.
Bought a new front for the stock 16" (AV45), hopefully the last. Maybe not, I have more parts for the rear upgrade. Gotta keep riding...
A Carb sync was done today, Rode over and saw George and hooked it up to his carb syncy dealio that does all 4 at once. 1st time I used one of these as I usually just do the two at a time method with a clear tube and some tranny fluid. It was so close to dead on that only a very minor adj on one carb was needed.
We then kicked the carbon out of the fj's as we rode up thru the foothills of the sierras. :yahoo:
Vibranator report: Big difference on the hands , these are not snake oil ,they actually work. :shok:
Weather was nice and the sun was out in the 60's , I feel sorry for the guys still in the snow. :empathy2:
Took it for a 2 hr. ride today. Getting a little more familiar with the capabilities of this beast. Still on the Metzeler Lasertecs that came on it. They seem to be ok, just not real confidence inspiring. Can't wait to do the 17" rear wheel upgrade. I may try the Avon radials as an intermediate improvement when the Metzlers are done, since I can get a 16" rear in an Avon. Anybody have a recent report on the Avon AV46/ AV55 radials on their FJ?
KOokaloo, Ya'll! Joe
1990 Black & Blue
Quote from: Flyover Country Joe on March 12, 2011, 10:47:09 PM
Took it for a 2 hr. ride today. Getting a little more familiar with the capabilities of this beast. Still on the Metzeler Lasertecs that came on it. They seem to be ok, just not real confidence inspiring. Can't wait to do the 17" rear wheel upgrade. I may try the Avon radials as an intermediate improvement when the Metzlers are done, since I can get a 16" rear in an Avon. Anybody have a recent report on the Avon AV46/ AV55 radials on their FJ?
KOokaloo, Ya'll! Joe
1990 Black & Blue
Recently put this combo on my '90 and it is great. Turn in was the biggest difference and they made the bike feel 200# lighter handling wise. The '90 is pretty stock, so I never push it to hard in the corners (suspension just doesn't inspire confidence). I have no reason to believe they would not handle some aggressive cornering however...
Quote from: Flyover Country Joe on March 12, 2011, 10:47:09 PM
Took it for a 2 hr. ride today. Getting a little more familiar with the capabilities of this beast. Still on the Metzeler Lasertecs that came on it. They seem to be ok, just not real confidence inspiring. Can't wait to do the 17" rear wheel upgrade. I may try the Avon radials as an intermediate improvement when the Metzlers are done, since I can get a 16" rear in an Avon. Anybody have a recent report on the Avon AV46/ AV55 radials on their FJ?
KOokaloo, Ya'll! Joe
1990 Black & Blue
Try this...http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=287.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=287.0)
Changed a fork seal. There seems to have been a bit of talk about this recently so for your interest here are a couple of tools I knocked up to do the job.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5173/5523442467_705d7bb3bc_b.jpg)
Fork tool - M20 bolt with head ground to 27mm welded to T bar
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5177/5524034876_1d5a6c4d78_b.jpg)
Removing bolt
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5215/5523443819_21a314442b_b.jpg)
Seal seating tool - looks crap but works fine.
Stuart
Flynt & FJmonkey,
Greatly appreciate the feedback on the Avons. Looks like those will be the tires I'm going with next time. I have quite a lot of repairs and upgrades planned before the 17" rear wheel, but I am keeping an eye open for a cheap GSXR wheel in the meantime.
KOokaloo, Ya'all!
1990 Black & Blue
Quote from: Flyover Country Joe on March 14, 2011, 07:59:41 AM
Flynt & FJmonkey,
Greatly appreciate the feedback on the Avons. Looks like those will be the tires I'm going with next time. I have quite a lot of repairs and upgrades planned before the 17" rear wheel, but I am keeping an eye open for a cheap GSXR wheel in the meantime.
KOokaloo, Ya'all!
1990 Black & Blue
Remember to get all the rear wheel parts that go on the axial, spacers, rear caliper with bracket (torsion arm optional), Brake disk (if in good condition), Sprocket is optional as you will likely want one with more teeth. I want under-slung brakes so I will need to fab-up how to connect the torsion arm. Others have welded the mounts on, I am thinking of a bolt on. If this works I will post my work for all. The Avon's are like Methadone till I get off the 16" addiction. But they stick quite well for my twisty riding in SoCal. I just keep rubbing the sides off.... :dash2:
Anyone want some Avon's with plenty of vertical time left on them?
After the little "drama" with my rocker cover, did a few other things:
Changed my Dynojet main jets from 112 to 108.
Patched up a tear in my air intake boot, from airbox to #4 carb.
Taped over a few holes I had drilled in the airbox intake snorkel.
Replaced 2 clutch pressure plates, with one FJR1300 plate.
All runs well, drivability is also quite acceptable. Clutch and gear changes are better with the 1 FJR plate, instead of the 2 FJ plates.
Bill.
well this is what I have been working on all winter. (http://[img]http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac115/courtsdaddy/fj1200gettingcloser.jpg)[/img]
(http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac115/courtsdaddy/fj1200gettingcloser.jpg)
ok try this way
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(http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac115/courtsdaddy/fj1200tireshot.jpg)
Craigo thanks for the help! I was way over thinking the 180 rear tire.
Is that the stock Shiny Black or a lighter shade of blue? I like it either way! Pilot Power is a good choice for the back, I was very happy with mine.
Doug
Quote from: courtsdaddy on March 24, 2011, 08:01:25 PM
Craigo thanks for the help! I was way over thinking the 180 rear tire.
Hey there,
Thank me all you want to but if I had not gotten info from others on this site, I would still be ignorant of how to put the GSXR wheel on the FJ, from which I made that little manual. Really was easy though, eh? I will tell you that I did just what you did when I did it. I mean, way over analysed the whole thing.
Glad it all worked out for you,
CraigO
90FJ1200
Th color is a lighter blue, couldnt have turned out better. I love it too , thanks.
OK, what color is it? Name, code, etc. And get some sunlight on that paint, need better pics!
I got bored and designed some new shoes for my 86' mirrors. My intent is to use the CBR mirrors. Currently the CBR mirrors on an 86/87 point up too high to be useful and they look funny. Simi_Ed let me borrow a spare base to take measurements from. Very simple concept, put a wedge under each mirror to flatten them out and get beyond the 80% elbow zone. This is a ten degree tilt. I kept the groove in hopes the rubber boot will still cover and hide the bracket. Here are a few images. Now I have to find a way to make a few.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5299/5569675881_4052d6a727.jpg)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5252/5570263230_a2b69c4302.jpg)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5019/5569675851_29d27ca431.jpg)
Have you ever heard of these guys? http://www.emachineshop.com/ (http://www.emachineshop.com/)
Seems like they would be right up your alley! I remember messing around with their software in 2005 and I thought it was pretty cool then. I'm glad to see that they are still around!
I'm sure you can upload your files and get pricing for different quantities pretty quickly.
As soon as I get the front wheel on I will get it out in the sun and take some more pictures, as far as the paint code I will get back to you.
Here ya go dave, the pics I took with my phone show the paint a little better with some light bouncing off it. Can't wait to see it in the sun (popcorn)
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2315/davesfj1.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1604/davesfj2.jpg)
Nice license plate Dave :rofl2:
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5328/davesfj3.jpg)
Well lets see, I bought my first FJ today. A 1984 FJ100, I pick it up Friday. Needs a little work but I'm really pumped about it. Just in time for the ridding season here in the great white north (Northern Illinois about 2 miles from the Wisconsin border).
Quote from: awschneider13 on March 30, 2011, 11:31:02 PM
Well lets see, I bought my first FJ today. A 1984 FJ100, I pick it up Friday. Needs a little work but I'm really pumped about it. Just in time for the ridding season here in the great white north (Northern Illinois about 2 miles from the Wisconsin border).
I didn't know they made a fj100 :wacko3: :rofl2:
welcome to the group :hi:
lots of great people here with a lot of knowledge of the fj.
you are gonna love your fj , get to a rally and check out all the mods and meet the people.
Quote from: Marsh White on March 29, 2011, 12:23:52 AM
Have you ever heard of these guys? http://www.emachineshop.com/ (http://www.emachineshop.com/)
Seems like they would be right up your alley! I remember messing around with their software in 2005 and I thought it was pretty cool then. I'm glad to see that they are still around!
I'm sure you can upload your files and get pricing for different quantities pretty quickly.
They quoted me $77 each if I bought two....Interesting service, great for remote R&D at the prices they charge...I wonder if Randy's machine shop would quote lower?
I installed the oil pan with the relocated drain.Got the header back on after some dent surgery.I made a spin-on oil filter adapter that will allow me to use Harley spin on filters.It will work with any filter less than 3.900" dia. with a 3/4" thread.I made a 3/4 to 20mm adapter.I pulled the clutch down,added a full width plate,got rid of the wire loop,and added a coil spring pressure plate.I measured the plates and they are the same thickness as the new oem plates,so they went back in.
I have to make a list and stick to it or I will never be riding.I can't stop the "while I'm here,I might as well fix it" mode.I'm glad I told myself no engine work until next winter......
Brought it home today..... :yahoo: ...spring is in the air....
Replacing gas tank with a nice clean one...polish and clean...
Head bearings next, but maybe a quick ride first.... :blush:
Cheers...Jake
Well I brought my new to me 1984 FJ1100 home on Friday, super excited ( the wife not so much (she has not come over to the dark side yet)(she is how ever showing some interest and letting me spend some money on it)). I was told by the previous owner that she was ready to go, all she needed was a battery, a new starter, and a little carb cleaning. Well he was right it needs that and a lot more, the carbs were so dirty the throttle would not return (built in cruise control), the gas tank was not hooked up, the fuel lines are so hard you could use them as a weapon. Any way I already love my FJ and all I have done is work on it so far, all that for 700 big ones. But she should be up and running in a couple of weeks, really looking forward to that. :yahoo:
Well the work is going good, the carbs are clean...wow those tings really move smooth when they are clean. I was told the starter was bad and that's why the bike was left setting. Good news is the starter is in good working order the bad news is...not sure whats wrong now...thinking it might be the starter solenoid. Waiting on the manual I ordered to get here...that just might help. Getting ready to order a new chain, oil filter, plugs, turn signals, brake and clutch levers, and battery. Weather is reportedly going to start warming up, so I hope to be in running order soon. The plan is to get it road worthy and then do the major work on it over the winter...but we all know how plans go.
Safe riding to all
Installed new wheel bearings front and rear,new tires, repainted the duck tail fixed dent in muffler,waiting for new front fender now i am just waiting for the weather to cooperate, was minus 5 c this morning :dash1: :mad:
I'm starting to see the end of this winters modifications.I got the subframe painted and bolted on.The front and rear suspension is on and torqued.I relocated the rear pipe mount closer to the pegs.I eliminated the passenger peg mount part of the plates.I may shorten the pipe a little and angle it up some.For now I'm trying to concentrate on getting it together and putting a few miles on it.I need to do a few repairs and trimming on the body work.It looks like the rattle can paint for a while longer.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/270_09_04_11_9_22_34_4.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/270_09_04_11_9_22_35_5.jpeg)
I need to finalize the tail light and blinker setup, finish the throttle cables, and top off the fluids.Then it's time to put on a few miles and see what I made worst/better , and/or what falls off.
Looking good Glenn, can't wait to see it at the rally. Get us more pics of finished project.
Bob W
Spring maintenance for all bikes: (GSXR750, Ninja 250, CRF50, CRF250X)
General Maintenance:
- Washed and waxed
- New front EBC HH Pads for the Gixxer
- Adjusted the chains
- Put a wrench on every bolt I could get to without heavy dissassembly. Where I had a torque setting, (~80%), re-torqued them.
- Checked and adjusted tire pressures.
Fluids: (all of them except the fork oil)
- Replaced the motor oil
- Flushed and replaced the coolant fluids
- Flushed and replaced the brake fluids, front and back, both street bikes
Feels good to have them both back to about as near 100% as they can be. All except the fork oils. I will teach myself how to do this eventually. From what I've read here, it's not an easy thing to do, and it sure seems fraught with special tools and other complexities.
Anyway, as I said, it feels good to have 'em shiny and tight.
Dan
Not quite today, but the things I've done in preparation for today's first ride-
-Spin on filter adapter. Somehow I cross referenced filters wrong in my quest for more is better and ended up with a K&N that's a little thick through the middle. Leaves about .020" between it and the spring for the kickstand. No holes yet...
-New valve cover gasket and grommets. Man that takes a while to glue that gasket in.
-Horn relay. Went from plink to honk.
-Used Corbin. I'm thinking the new wrinkle down the center means the bike's running good.
-Stainless bolt kit.
-Full Supertrapp system. Vintage external disc style. I love the look, just wish I could get the core out to repack it. Probably been in there 25 years, so it's a little raspy! To those who say systems don't interchange between years, this '84 model bolted to the same hanger on my '91 that my V&H used, which happens to be the stock exhaust mount on the subframe. No fab or tweaking needed.
-Built up the notch for the kickstand spring with weld. No more droopy sidestand.
-For those of you waiting in eager anticipation... valve clearance check. All good.
Glenn, that bike is an inspiration! Figured you'd been busy. What does your workplace think of your extreme makeover project? Interesting that you kept the front brake splitter, that's smooth.
repainted my front fender while waiting for the new one so I can maybe get my collector plate. warmed it up and then took a quick blast down the street and got it back in the shop before the cops showed up. Love the sound ! Still to cold to do any serious ridding :biggrin: :yahoo:
My bikes up for its annual M.O.T. soon so I gave it the once over.
Replaced fork oil seals,this is a yearly occurance,the seals never seem too last that
long before they weep.,yet i am very very carefull to install correctly.
synced the carbs., gave her a good wash n wax. she should pass no probs. :good2:
Fork seals, have a look here:
http://www.sealmate.net/ (http://www.sealmate.net/)
Bill.
Quote from: carsick on April 09, 2011, 11:36:22 PM
-For those of you waiting in eager anticipation... valve clearance check. All good.
how can that be?
Quote from: ukfj on April 10, 2011, 03:28:17 AM
Replaced fork oil seals,this is a yearly occurance,the seals never seem too last that
long before they weep.,yet i am very very carefull to install correctly.
OEM seals?
The rest are junk...
Randy T
Indy
Quote from: Travis398 on April 10, 2011, 08:18:41 AM
how can that be?
Hmm, maybe valve seat wear increases at the square of RPM, so your 9K operational speed results in four times the wear my 4.5K revolutional parameter does? Or maybe the PO had 'em set on the loose side and I've worn into the sweet spot! Now if I'd just had some adjustable cam gears while I was in there I really could have made an improvement.
You should have asked when you were here :dash1:
Bob W
Thanks for the pointers Randy/Bill must admit the replacements were not OEM.
I will just have 2 see how they go, until next time. then I will get OEM ,s
Cheers Rich, ps Randy Those Vibrinators work a treat and thanks for getting them to
me here in the uk so quickly. :good2:
Quote from: ukfj on April 10, 2011, 03:28:17 AM
Replaced fork oil seals,this is a yearly occurance,the seals never seem too last that
long before they weep.
Rich,
If that is the case it might be time to put a set of bushing in the forks as well. If you are replacing seals annually due to leakage, you probably have excessive wear in the bushings.
This is a fork rebuild kit that uses the O.E. NOK seal & wiper and has the upper & lower bushings as well as new replacement snap rings; http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3AForkR%2FBKit (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3AForkR%2FBKit)
Glad to here the Vibranators are absorbing those pesky bar vibrations.
Randy - RPM
I replaced the stock 16" front tire with a new one and what a difference!!!
Before the bike felt heavy in the turns and had a tendency towards an "headshake" at speeds between 60 and 90 km.
Now it feels light in the turns and no headshake tendency noted.
I told my wife that if she can´t find me I will be out riding the bike with a big grin on my face :good2:
It had a 10 year old Bridgestone BT from previous owner, but I picked the Pirelli Sport Demon as I had read somewhere that the Bridgestone´s were not the best.
The next will be to sinc the carbs and then to get a quote for shipping the bike again to scandinavia so that I will have something to ride when I´m at work -I have some dirt bikes to ride when at home in Iceland :good:
Installed new to me faring on the fj and replaced bulbs.
next is oil change
next is finish wearing out front tire so I can put a new one on for the rally. :good2:
I didn't do this today, I did it last weekend and finished it yesterday - I installed the brand-new carbs that Bob Weymouth sold me. I installed them in an afternoon last Sunday (the OEM airbox is a pain like everyone says) and it fired right up like a dream.
I tried to synch them with a length of clear tubing and some ATF, but it sucked the ATF right up the tubing into the #4 carburetor before I could balance it with #3 and blew out a bunch of smoke like an old Dodge truck I used to have. Arggh - quittin' time.
Took it for a ride to warm it up yesterday before trying to synch the carbs again using some plastic screw protectors stuck into the tubing to act as restrictors, and on the warm-up ride it pulled rough as a cobb at low throttle - uh-oh, same as before, maybe the problem is something else? Balanced the carbs with the restricted tubes, didn't burn much ATF at all, got #3 and #4 balanced together okay, everything else was pretty close.
Took it for another ride and YEE-HAAH, smooth as glass, idled evenly, pulled like a new bike.
DONE.
Boone, here we come.
Good on you Bill. Just started mine and let it warmup.Took it up to about 4,000 rpm. Just to hear it sing.
Installed my new front fender. Started the bike and warmed her up while sitting on and watching the snow come down, only plus one C. :flag_of_truce: :ireful:
Changed the oil and filter on the 91, installed a new battery and fixed the fuel level in the number 4 carb. Gave the bike a much needed bath and fired her up for the first time since last September. Took a ride around the neighborhood several times to check out the work.
I will be riding her to work tomorrow and getting an inspection sticker on it. It's been a long time since I was able to ride the bike and it sure felt good to be back on the road again..
I will see you all in Boone next month...
Eric M
:dash1:Not what I wanted to...fixed what I thought was wrong...which was but found more...so close to my first ride only to be smacked down...oh well, not giving up yet the fun has just begun...
Quote from: Mark Olson on April 11, 2011, 01:30:14 PM
Installed new to me faring on the fj and replaced bulbs.
next is oil change
next is finish wearing out front tire so I can put a new one on for the rally. :good2:
Still working on wearing the front tire out. :good2:
Well, I've had the beast for 3 weeks now, still waiting on a new regulator which I hope will cure the charging problems. Riding to work every day, which has about 2 kms of dirt into work, so she was starting to look a bit grubby. So yesterday I washed her and polished everything. She looks sweet :good2: The day before I had the fairing off, checking all the wiring and just looking at stuff. I am unable to change the fork settings, something not right in there :mad: Reckon I'll order some new constant rate springs and emulators from Randy. Also dreaming of higher bars, thinking seriously of the LSL kit, specially as it has the braided lines as well.
So show us!
Weather was crappy for a SoCal ride so I pulled the trigger and pulled the ass end off. Getting ready to put a GSXR 17' x 5.5' rear on before WCR. I pulled the swing arm off to mount the attachment for the under-slung brake stay and was surprised to find the bearings in great shape. There is a lot of crap to clean off, 23+ years of oil, chain lube and road grime..... :bad: I wish I could afford a new rear shock. I just need to measure for the new spacers and verify the chain alignment before I put my Purple wheel on and complete my first major MOD. Then change the Fugly color after the old rear skin is worn out, maybe from the great rides at the WCR.
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I can see the end of this winters mod session.This weekend I got the throttle cables to length and functional.I started doing the body work and paint.I got the flasher wired in and working.Made a license plate bracket,and got the rear led's working.
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I'm pretty much down to the tank and front fairing.Paint is satin black rattle can.I will probably add some dark red details.And yes,I got a little carried away.
Quote from: RACER111V on April 24, 2011, 10:16:34 PM
I can see the end of this winters mod session.This weekend I got the throttle cables to length and functional.I started doing the body work and paint.I got the flasher wired in and working.Made a license plate bracket,and got the rear led's working.
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I'm pretty much down to the tank and front fairing.Paint is satin black rattle can.I will probably add some dark red details.And yes,I got a little carried away.
I like the braced swing arm, very nice....
Well Done!!!
Can't wait to see the finished product.
CraigO
90FJ1200
Recently I have,
put a new front tyre on as the one that came with the bike was showing some decent cracks.
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Put on my new to me chin scoop after giving it a spray can paint job that turned out quite nice.
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Installed the V&H 4 into 1 exhaust sourced second hand from ebay. It gave it quite a nice note, a little bit raspy but still puts a smile on my face.
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Adjusted the mixture and synced the carbs with this home made device that worked nicely 1st go. I have since added some restrictors and put some marks on the jars just for reference points.
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And gave the whole bike a bit of lovin.
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I have sourced a front fender which should arrive soon then I'll finally have all the plastics to complete the set.
Well not today but over the winter work, painted and polished new front rim 3 1/2" x 17", painted and polished rear rim 5 1/2" x 17" wide, machine work to fit up rear rim, machined new offset front sprocket, new rear sprocket (chain is new too). Made new dog bones, replaced clutch and did clutch conversion to barnett plate, new clutch slave cylinder and bar ends (thanks Randy). Had new tires mounted 120 / 70 /17 up front, 180 / 55 / 17 out back, blue spot calipers, S.S brake lines and front brake master cylinder, bike looks good so far. Next up on the save for list is a new rear shock, emulators and springs up front maybe some other fork and brake work, and some paint work to cover up a repaired crack in the fairing from the shop I bought the bike from. Also there is probably a carb rebuild in my future, which means more fun. After all that I think my mods will come to a slow down until something really gets me looking, maybe a new smoked windshield though. I think I now need to put some Km's on the clock and enjoy the changes. Thanks for all the threads and info on the board as well as info from others on here, spent some hours researching and found most of everything I needed here and some things I didn't think would be here (I'll call it Kladvy humour).
Cheers
Shaun
Quote from: Dazza57 on April 24, 2011, 05:43:01 AM
I am unable to change the fork settings, something not right in there :mad: Reckon I'll order some new constant rate springs and emulators from Randy. Also dreaming of higher bars, thinking seriously of the LSL kit, specially as it has the braided lines as well.
Better open her up and check 1st, may already have emulators in there..... Their installation requires removal of the rod that adjust rebound.
yup... if the rod doesnt go back into its locating slot you wont be able to adjust anything, bit of a bugger but its not a major chore...... 27mm hex.... i use a hydraulic cap and bsp fitting welded together to remove the fork caps.... apparently the rear axle bolt does the same thing but pfffttt.... who wants to remove the rear wheel to fix the front? cant really imagine them binding up or "sticking" but i could be mistooken
:biggrin:The 85 FJ1100 went for a test ride after making a carb needle adjustment
I will be going back to the old needle setting though because it was better as I expected.I also picked up a 87 FJ1200 tonight that I might part out,use as a parts bike or get it running.Top of the motor(head) is missing cylinders are going to need bored.PO sold the head and let her sit for 3-4 years with oil and rags in the cylinder.If I dont turn her into a runner I will keep the motor exhaust and a few other pieces.I will look her over better tommorow.Waiting on a rear sprocket for the 85,going to order another front sprocket and im waiting on dust seals so I can do my forks and put my chain on.
Went through the 87 today to see whats good and whats bad.Engine is out and its down to 2 wheels some forks and the frame.
removed my spin on filter adapter today because I had a leak that I couldnty find. Well it seams that I missed seeing the kick stand wire under the adapter. Did anyone know that that wire can almost be completely flat? Anyway got the leak fixed. Jim :yahoo:
well I ordered a new front fender from yamaha today and it should be here before the west coast rally :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: anyway they said the 25th of may.
anybody wanna bet on it?
I'll bet the cat that scared-up your old front fender is still amazed to be in one piece.
Quote from: andyoutandabout on May 01, 2011, 01:43:32 AM
I'll bet the cat that scared-up your old front fender is still amazed to be in one piece.
yep, every time I start the bbq , the cat runs off.
I put the final coat of clear coat on the paint for Alan's FJ1100. Mine next!
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(silver base coat,then silver flake,then candy tangerine and then clear coats...)
It seems to have taken ages to do,but an hour here an hour there evenually gets to the point were is finished. :yahoo:
The satin black fj looks really cool!!!
I polished and cleaned it today. And rode it for the 1st time this season.
It's rideable again....After a long winter of wrenching,cutting,welding and machining it's up and running again.
I'm glad this is for fun and not money.Nobody would have paid me for all the hours it took me to get to this point.I took it for a short ride around the industrial park so I wouldn't have to push it far if gave me a problem.No leaks or issues other than the rear caliper is dragging a little.After a couple hours of rain ended I took it for a couple of 1 mile loops.It looks like the work might have been worth it.Here's some pics.Monday I'll get on the phone and get a rear "hugger" fender on it's way.
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That looks sick! :good2: Good job!
Are you missing a rear taillight? And - others actually see those front turn leds? I'd like to see a straight on front photo and rear photo.
Quote from: Marsh White on May 08, 2011, 05:49:28 PM
That looks sick! :good2: Good job!
Are you missing a rear taillight? I'd like to see a straight on rear photo.
Marsh, consult the pic at the top of page 30.
And WOW does that bike look mean! The lines are just right for the color.
Quote from: Marsh White on May 08, 2011, 05:49:28 PM
That looks sick! :good2: Good job!
Are you missing a rear taillight? And - others actually see those front turn leds? I'd like to see a straight on front photo and rear photo.
Here you go
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There is a clear plate/red brake led under the tail also.The brake is twice as bright as the running.The fronts are sequential and quit bright.I may add some led pods in the future.I walked back a hundred or so feet and they are still very defined even in the bright daylight.It took me about ten shots to get the left "blinker on" picture.
I like the lower mounted mirrors, No elbows. Great work on the LEDs.
If KITT (Knight Rider) was an FJ - this would be it! Good job on the mirrors too! Because they are so low - I bet you can see past your elbows too?
The mirrors give a good view.That area is very stiff where they mount and they aren't "buzzy" at all.I have already found some more led's I would like to try.It's taking a lot of will power to stop where I am now.
That's probably the best looking FJ, it looks so nearly stock... and then you start comparing it to stock and the sheer amount of changes show up, but they all look well done....
Here is what I did yesterday to quell the Naysayers on installing CBR mirrors on an 86/87. Just for the record...None of this stuff is rocket science or brain surgery. The CBR mirrors (mine are after market) are not quite properly angled for simple bolt on use on the 86/87 years. For newer years the angle is bolt on. It is just the angle that looks weird and prevents some from switching. I changed the bolts to longer 6mm hex cap head screws, drilled out the base holes some for the angle (only the Left side, the Right is still too high) and stuck a spare Phillips drive (a wedge) bit under one side to lean the mirror mount in the proper direction. I have designed some proper base adapters for this but the lead time is killing me, I rode like this three weeks ago with no issues. The mirror buzz was the same as OEM and I saw further past my elbows. I may fill the mirrors with some RTV to add weight and dampen the buzz even more. Better than OEM and no weight to break loose.
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My machined bases will have a 15 degree angle and will put the mirrors in proper alignment so the top edges are horizontal. This might be a mickey mouse kind of fix, but once the boots are back on, no one can tell. Hell, we hid flaws under our coverings...Some more than others. Next week I will have more info on my GSXR rear upgrade.....I still love them LEDs....
Quote from: RACER111V on May 08, 2011, 05:43:03 PM
It's rideable again...
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Really sharp looking FJ.
Nice work.
Dan
Quote from: andyb on May 08, 2011, 07:10:57 PM
That's probably the best looking FJ, it looks so nearly stock... and then you start comparing it to stock and the sheer amount of changes show up, but they all look well done....
I was thinking of that as I was going.Almost every part has been tweaked.Most of it isn't obvious unless you are familiar with a stock one,or had a stock one near by.It started to be part of the fun of this project.
........ RACER111V,..... Good Job, it's amazing what you can do, if you just take a little time and think about it. and ...TRY... to make it work !!
Jeff
I finally got around to working on the engine cases I bought about two months ago. The shift drum retainer screws were siezed, from Lock-Tite I'm sure. I finally center drilled the screws, applied heat and a extractor to remove them.
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My next milestone on putting a 92' 750 GSXR rear on my 86' FJ. I picked up my 38T sprocket from Johnson and Woods, they need to sell tickets to "come and search" day. It is an old place with parts every where they can fit stuff. I am guessing this is where they will eventually find Jimmy Hoffa. I love places like this. The smaller sprocket means my chain is now long enough to move the rear wheel back and put the axial in. Here are some pics.
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The chain rubs on the side of the Dunlop Sport Max 207 that came with the wheel. The tire has some life left on it. The chain will machine off some of the edge. How much can I machine off before I need to worry about the tire??? Anyone put a too wide tire on before? Power sander or bite the bullet on a new tire?
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I like the under-slung rear brake, now I just need to finished rebuilding it. And get a longer brake line this weekend.
Just one small problem.....I found two very small parts under the bike today.
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I think one of the needle bearings from under the shock is toast, I hope it is the same bearing as the swing arm pivot. If not then I need to get more parts on order ASAP!!!! The other round bit I think came from the rear passenger peg. There are no round bearings on any of the parts I have worked on. It could be more evidence that I am loosing my marbles, I never like them anyway....
A little tire rub from the chain won't hurt anything, just keep your eyes on it. Always had that problem with the 170 shinko.
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Just one small problem.....I found two very small parts under the bike today.
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I think one of the needle bearings from under the shock is toast, I hope it is the same bearing as the swing arm pivot. If not then I need to get more parts on order ASAP!!!! The other round bit I think came from the rear passenger peg. There are no round bearings on any of the parts I have worked on. It could be more evidence that I am loosing my marbles, I never like them anyway....
Isn't that the ball that goes at the end of the clutch push-rod? :unknown:
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Isn't that the ball that goes at the end of the clutch push-rod? :unknown:
Yeh.... that was my thought too, but no mention of clutch slave removal so???
edit.... but now that I take a second look at the pic....the slave is hanging loose........ did you remove the pushrod?
Harvy
Yes, the pegs do have a ball like that and from memory the pin is part of what retains it. Have a look at the other side. There should also be a very short spring to keep tension on the ball, it's what keeps them up.
Noel
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Just one small problem.....I found two very small parts under the bike today.
I think one of the needle bearings from under the shock is toast, I hope it is the same bearing as the swing arm pivot. If not then I need to get more parts on order ASAP!!!! The other round bit I think came from the rear passenger peg. There are no round bearings on any of the parts I have worked on. It could be more evidence that I am loosing my marbles, I never like them anyway....
Isn't that the ball that goes at the end of the clutch push-rod? :unknown:
This ball is 2/3rds smaller than the clutch push rod. Plus, the push rod has not been removed and the key to start the bike has been moved down stairs till the slave goes back on. I don't want the rod and ball flying across the street, where I will likely lose the ball forever. The stories from others of oil shooting out is quite funny, mostly cuz it ain't happened to me. I know I lost the ball from one of the passenger pegs before and just jammed it back in. Maybe I need to modify further to prevent a third loss.
Tonight after work, I finished mounting my GPS RAM mount, wired in a power access point in the upper right side of the dash, and took it out for a spin and found some KOOKALOO at 8000 rpm in 2nd gear!
Life is good.
But our weather just can't make up it's mind.
Been in the 80s the past couple of days with, sweltering high humidity, and then today, mid to upper 50s and overcast and jacket weather.
I'm not trying to sound like a Honda commercial, but, "I just wanna ride!"
Cheers to all the up coming Rallies, and heres to great times, great rides and great friends, just be safe out there guys!
Leon
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You mounted yours exactly how I mounted my Zumo 550.
So far, I've had no issues with mounting it this way.............I did however just recently send my Zumo to Garmin. The touch-screen failed......cost me $165 with tax. :ireful: They sent me back a reconditioned unit with a warranty.
New Pilot Road 3. It was time.
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I hear they're good in the rain.
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Not the end of the world but really, is this much rain necessary? I hope somebody out there is getting a few good rides in. Might have to suit up and pretend it's sunny.
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New Pilot Road 3. It was time.
Doug-
Please keep us posted on the PR3, and how you like it, and how it's wearing etc? I ask, because I'm seriously thinking that my next tires are going to be a PP2CT up front, and a PR3 out back. I'm hoping to wear them out at a more even rate. As it stands I still have ~40% of the tread left on the front when I am due to change the back, so a harder compound would be nice out back, especially given that I'm not going to be spending much time on a track anytime soon.
Dan
Hey carsick, nice rain pic. That plant sure loves it. Looks like ya won`t need an Ark (Thanks to the info from lotsofkids). At least ya got a canoe ready for a deluge - but what`s that other gadget in the background?.
Never been much of a computor or mechanical bloke (Though definateley a campfire bug :drinks:) but shit I love the diversity of experienced info, pics, humour and sick comradarie on this forum.
Because of a trade background as household electrician, I was asked to find a baffling fault in a mate`s poor charging KTM990 recently - (discovered fault to be a waterpump bearing, believe it or not - so had to strip the bike down completeley :mad:) - I`m now tempted and a little more confident to succumb to the Mods bug for my FJ2 (133000klms) - Mainly cause I`ve discovered everything from hidden tiny choke circuits in carbies to vibranators, suspension Mods, even the lowdown on oils- and so much more - simply by lurking here, with an occasional post. -( Our continuing rain following a big drought being another factor)
Test rides on everything from a Honda Blackbird (Sweet power but hard on my wrists, ankles (lotsofheat) & pillion) to a niceley modified Aprilia (Not quite enough torque), even a Goldwing - yuk! - has finally concluded that the FJ is the greatest, reliable all rounder with extreme everything a real possibility. :good: (and I`d love to wear out the sides of some fat tyres)
Shit! - I think I just did the intro I was supposed to do ages ago.
No I`ve never been in the military - but can someone tell me where I find a dictionary on all your abbreviations? (though Kookaloo and a wide open throttle I understand naturally. :diablo:)
I need some help/advice. My GSXR conversion on the rear is complete and passed the the first shake down run (nothing went really wrong, even passed a speed trap, more on that later). I have a 5.5 x 17" rear wheel with the tire that came with it. A Dunlop 207 190 x 50 x 17. My stock 150 x 80 x 16 had very neutral steering, not any more. I have to push it down into the corners and fight it during the normal bumps. other than the rear wheel I made no other changes that would affect geometry. So I am convinced that the tire is too wide for the wheel and pinched too narrow. Anyone with experience/ on this?
(Later) I passed the speed trap cuz I was keeping it slow from the squirrly ass end exiting the corner like I was scared of pine-cones....Others got bit by the twin CHP bikes hidden in the trees. They had a good spot, by the time I saw the shine/glitter of their helmets hidden in the trees, they had a radar lock on me.
Any input would be helpful..Thank in advance.....
Nothing to sweat - you just need to raise the rear end of the bike now - then you will be AMAZED at your new machine! I prefer the Penske route to do this - but dogbones - etc will do the trick as well.
Quote from: The General on May 21, 2011, 12:40:18 PM
but what`s that other gadget in the background?
Doug,
That would be a plow. For snow. Snowplow. Goes on the front of yer plow truck. I was using it last month. Maybe I should get a squeegee blade for it, dry out the yard.
If I hadn't cropped the picture to remove my piles of junk you would also have noticed the snowmobiles. Not common in your area I suppose, so many things I accept as normal, thanks for the perspective! And nice intro too.
Doug
Quote from: Marsh White on May 21, 2011, 09:03:04 PM
Nothing to sweat - you just need to raise the rear end of the bike now - then you will be AMAZED at your new machine! I prefer the Penske route to do this - but dogbones - etc will do the trick as well.
I love the thought of having "dog bones" to change ride height. But my 86 does not have them bones...How does one alter the ride height??? The current rear is the same Diameter as the old. Why would the geometry be different? My head is not properly wrapping around this one. My hungry mind needs to know....Is the 86/87 that different?
air up the back tire to 40psi.
drop the front forks.
face the facts you need a penske shock. :empathy:
is the old tire squared off.
do you have the 17" front wheel.??
I changed my oil :biggrin:. I'm doing several things, changing the engine case (Thanks Bob!) which will also fix a oil leak, installing a new cylinder block and Wiseco pistons/rings which will fix worn out pistons/cylinders/rings compression ect., rebuilding and installing a set of FJ1200 carbs, replacing my BikeMaster chain with a EK ZZZ, repairing my fuel guage and fairing and installing a power port and mount for my GPS.
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This is where I am now, engine case is closed with oil pan on, ready to flip it over and work on the top. I hope to have the engine back together by tommorrow night.
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 21, 2011, 11:11:32 PM
air up the back tire to 40psi.
drop the front forks.
face the facts you need a penske shock. :empathy:
is the old tire squared off.
do you have the 17" front wheel.??
Still have the stock 16" front (new tire), the tire does not look square but I will look closely again, and YES, I badly need a Penske for the rear. I will bump up the pressure to 40 today and see if that changes anything. Then lower the front after that. One change at a time. Thanks.
Quote from: FJmonkey on May 22, 2011, 08:53:36 AM
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 21, 2011, 11:11:32 PM
air up the back tire to 40psi.
drop the front forks.
face the facts you need a penske shock. :empathy:
is the old tire squared off.
do you have the 17" front wheel.??
Still have the stock 16" front (new tire), the tire does not look square but I will look closely again, and YES, I badly need a Penske for the rear. I will bump up the pressure to 40 today and see if that changes anything. Then lower the front after that. One change at a time. Thanks.
One change at a time?????
You need to get the 17"wheel on the front and it will handle sweet.
I think craig still has a 90 wheel just laying around.
when I upgraded my 86 I did it all in one shot.
penske shock
fzr rear
90 forks and emulators springs
90 front wheel
pilot powers front and rear
blue pot calipers
fjr masters
only cost 2,000 and I had a brand new bike
mine handles very well and neutral in the corners , you can put in the corner and take your hands off and it will hold it until you want it to come up.
You still got time before the rally , if you find the forks , I can get you the 90 wheel cheap. :biggrin:
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 22, 2011, 11:23:23 AM
You need to get the 17"wheel on the front and it will handle sweet.
I think craig still has a 90 wheel just laying around.
Nope, no 17" wheels laying around here. :nea:
CraigO
Quote from: craigo on May 22, 2011, 12:00:05 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 22, 2011, 11:23:23 AM
You need to get the 17"wheel on the front and it will handle sweet.
I think craig still has a 90 wheel just laying around.
Nope, no 17" wheels laying around here. :nea:
CraigO
I meant Craig Z AKA "Marlboro man"
Radar jammer, ECM or a HARM missile or 2. Oh, the steering ... I think the others have said enough. My vote is still a squared off tire.
Ed
It'll always feel like a truck with that 16" front wheel. That should have been the very first mod. I'm sure the 17" rear is nice, but until you get that front replaced, expect minimum gains.
The front wheel mod on the early model FJs is the singular most significant upgrade I've done. The difference in handling is amazing. I think I've been posting this for about 8 or 9 years now
DavidR.
Almost a ride report but still about my new rear end.
Day 2 of shakedown runs with the new GSXR rear. First, when I left yesterday I failed to perform my ritual air pressure tire check. I remembered this as I pulled in to fill up the tank. I put in 38 lbs. of air at the fuel station. I checked air again this morning and found it at 32 psi. The gauge at the service station was way off. Put it back up to 40 psi for my ride with San Dimas Mike. The square wheel feel went away, but not neutral yet. It was a good thing too as Mike kept me on my toes with his new Diablos front and rear, up to Crystal Lake. Great ride!
Here is Mike and his garage queen on the Left, my 86/92 on the Right.
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And here I am looking like I have gas, the chili was good. Bit of a chill, the periodic extra warmth helped. Glad my bike was hidden by his good looker.
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For those of you that helped and commented about the tire/chain clearance issue I was having, I have more information. The tire mounted on the wheel is a 190/50, not a 180/55. I looked at the tire several times and kept reading it as 180/50. The difference between looking and seeing. I looked, but I was not seeing what it said. So once I put a 180 on the 5mm should do the trick to clear the chain. The 190 is also a touch too wide for 5.5 wheel and will cause the profile to round out more than it should. This will affect steering as the rear is not in agreement with the front. Hence not neutral. But no longer bad. Ready for WCR.
Oh, look for my other post, non-FJ related for the bike event Mike and I went to after our ride (Rated PG13).
Working on the top end now, torqued all the top end bolts and rods, cleaned the cylinder block, set the ring gap .010/.014, installed pistons with buttons and installed cylinder block. It don't sound like much but it took me all day.
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I used rubber bands and grease to hold the wrist pin buttons iin place until they were safely in the cylinders.
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Quote from: SkyFive on May 22, 2011, 09:36:39 PM
Working on the top end now, torqued all the top end bolts and rods, cleaned the cylinder block, set the ring gap .010/.014, installed pistons with buttons and installed cylinder block. It don't sound like much but it took me all day.
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I used rubber bands and grease to hold the wrist pin buttons iin place until they were safely in the cylinders.
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Bute mate, just Fing gorgeous......Can you do the all the bikes in the club like this????
WOW look at that machining, who does such nice work. :lol:
Looks good so far BD, keep us up on how the rest goes.
Bob W
Quote from: FJmonkey on May 22, 2011, 09:41:17 PM
Bute mate, just Fing gorgeous......Can you do the all the bikes in the club like this????
I could but I would have to buy a piston ring compressor. :good2:
Quote from: Weymouth399WOW look at that machining, who does such nice work.
Looks good so far BD, keep us up on how the rest goes.
Thanks Bob! I appreciate all of your help more than you know.
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 22, 2011, 11:23:23 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on May 22, 2011, 08:53:36 AM
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 21, 2011, 11:11:32 PM
air up the back tire to 40psi.
drop the front forks.
face the facts you need a penske shock. :empathy:
is the old tire squared off.
do you have the 17" front wheel.??
Still have the stock 16" front (new tire), the tire does not look square but I will look closely again, and YES, I badly need a Penske for the rear. I will bump up the pressure to 40 today and see if that changes anything. Then lower the front after that. One change at a time. Thanks.
One change at a time?????
You need to get the 17"wheel on the front and it will handle sweet.
I think craig still has a 90 wheel just laying around.
when I upgraded my 86 I did it all in one shot.
penske shock
fzr rear
90 forks and emulators springs
90 front wheel
pilot powers front and rear
blue pot calipers
fjr masters
only cost 2,000 and I had a brand new bike
mine handles very well and neutral in the corners , you can put in the corner and take your hands off and it will hold it until you want it to come up.
You still got time before the rally , if you find the forks , I can get you the 90 wheel cheap. :biggrin:
No time for the front!!! The rear took twice what I planned and 4x the cost. And I still have the F'ing stock shock. I have most of the front upgrade including the wheel (88, FZR1000 in my garage) with rotors, Blue dot brakes from Simi_Ed (as soon as he puts his Gold dots on), Ed's 89 forks pending rebuild including cartridge emulators. I am stoked to get 17" up front with better brakes. I am gonna need better horns to tell the Squid MoFos to get OUT of My way!!!!!!!!
So this machine Marc designed is really, really capable... rode about 150 miles from SJ, over Mt Hamilton on 130, up into Livermore on Mines Rd, into Sunol on 84, then back to SJ (60-70% VERY twisty with lots of high speed sweepers mixed with some tighter radius stuff). The whole way I was largely setting the pace for an R6 and a CBR1000... really fun.
This ride killed off the Battlax 021 on the front, but what worries me is the way it went. The side tread looks like my cage tires after a hard day at the track... the rubber appears to have ground right off the tire. I really didn't expect this and, although we were leaning pretty aggressively, I suspect the WCR boys will laugh at the pace I can actually achieve (once I catch up of course). Not sure what to make of it, but this tire went from maybe 40% remaining to zero in 3 hours and I think there must be a better match for my needs.
So my question is... what tire to try now. My 021 rear is still very good, so I'm contemplating a new front only or shifting to new F and R in a more abuse ready tire. I never ride in the rain intentionally, so a summer tire is ok. I also am not hyper-aggressive, so I don't need the stickiest thing out there. The tires on the K12S BMW (Pilot Power) have held up to similar thrashing without adverse effect. I am thinking I will switch to the PP 2CT (same as PP, but harder center tread for longer life on the slab).
So two questions
1. For others with similar mods (YZF750 USD front with 120/60-17, Thunderace rear with 180/55-17), does this particular setup stress the front tires... I'm probably going to put a 70 series tire on front this time... might that help? (OK... that's already two questions)
2. What other tire brands/models should I consider?
10 days to WCR :good2:
Frank
Quote from: Flynt on May 23, 2011, 09:32:58 AM
I'm probably going to put a 70 series tire on front this time... might that help? (OK... that's already two questions)
2. What other tire brands/models should I consider?
Frank
God YES! 120 70/17 not 60...sounds like a big part of your problem right there. You seem like a good candidate for the Avon AV55. That is the best front tire I've had yet - no cupping at all during the life of the tire.
Quote from: Marsh White on May 23, 2011, 10:26:01 AM
Quote from: Flynt on May 23, 2011, 09:32:58 AM
I'm probably going to put a 70 series tire on front this time... might that help? (OK... that's already two questions)
2. What other tire brands/models should I consider?
Frank
God YES! 120 70/17 not 60...sounds like a big part of your problem right there. You seem like a good candidate for the Avon AV55. That is the best front tire I've had yet - no cupping at all during the life of the tire.
Yea, Marc liked the 60 because it lowers the front even more and gives a really twitchy feel. Nice turn in (thing wants to fall into a corner and you have to hold it off), but I think the 70s will work better for me.
I'm reading about Dunlop Roadsmarts and it sounds like potentially a great fit. I use the FJ for commute and the occasional twisties ride. The tire shop pretty much nixxed my PP or PP 2CT thoughts (<3000 miles predicted when I showed my 021 wear) and their strong recommendation was for the Dunlops. Anyone have experience with these tires?
Frank
Quote from: Flynt on May 23, 2011, 11:02:45 AM
I'm reading about Dunlop Roadsmarts and it sounds like potentially a great fit. I use the FJ for commute and the occasional twisties ride. The tire shop pretty much nixxed my PP or PP 2CT thoughts (<3000 miles predicted when I showed my 021 wear) and their strong recommendation was for the Dunlops. Anyone have experience with these tires?
Frank
Yep - I loved them! No problems - solid. They seemed to have a pretty fast warm up time. Lasted pretty decent too. I only ran through one pair of them - but I have only praise to say.
Quote from: Flynt on May 23, 2011, 11:02:45 AM
I'm reading about Dunlop Roadsmarts and it sounds like potentially a great fit. I use the FJ for commute and the occasional twisties ride. The tire shop pretty much nixxed my PP or PP 2CT thoughts (<3000 miles predicted when I showed my 021 wear) and their strong recommendation was for the Dunlops. Anyone have experience with these tires?
Frank
+1 on the Roadsmarts!!! I have a 120/70-17 front and a 170/60-17 rear. Stick like glue but are not as stable in a straight line as the Michelin I had. Not that that's a bad thing as I prefer the quicker handling. I have about 1k miles on them and seem to be wearing just fine. No cupping on the front and no chicken stripes on the back. I will buy them as long as they keep making them or something better comes along.
CraigO
FWIW, My plan is to put a Pilot Power 2CT up from with a Pilot Road 3CT out back for my next set. I currently have the PP2CT's on both ends, and I commute with my Gixxer, and the back tends to square off while the front stays nice and round.
Dan
Quote from: Marsh White on May 23, 2011, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Flynt on May 23, 2011, 11:02:45 AM
I'm reading about Dunlop Roadsmarts and it sounds like potentially a great fit. I use the FJ for commute and the occasional twisties ride. The tire shop pretty much nixxed my PP or PP 2CT thoughts (<3000 miles predicted when I showed my 021 wear) and their strong recommendation was for the Dunlops. Anyone have experience with these tires?
Frank
Yep - I loved them! No problems - solid. They seemed to have a pretty fast warm up time. Lasted pretty decent too. I only ran through one pair of them - but I have only praise to say.
Marsh,
What sort of mileage did you get from the roadsmarts? -You probably posted this before, but I guess I was not paying attention.
let me know?
Thanks,
Dan
I liked the performance of the Roadsmart up front. Never gave me any trouble; however, I burned through it in about 3000 miles. That was a few trips to Ark and the rest riding locally. The tire triangulated big time with the sides worn smooth.
I'm kind of proud of how worn out the sides are, but not terrible impressed with the low mileage. I used to get over twice that mileage with a D205. I put another Roadsmart on for now, but if it wears as quickly, I'll be in search of a different tire next time.
Of course, YMMV,
DavidR.
Quote from: craigo on May 23, 2011, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: Flynt on May 23, 2011, 11:02:45 AM
I'm reading about Dunlop Roadsmarts and it sounds like potentially a great fit. I use the FJ for commute and the occasional twisties ride. The tire shop pretty much nixxed my PP or PP 2CT thoughts (<3000 miles predicted when I showed my 021 wear) and their strong recommendation was for the Dunlops. Anyone have experience with these tires?
Frank
+1 on the Roadsmarts!!! I have a 120/70-17 front and a 170/60-17 rear. Stick like glue but are not as stable in a straight line as the Michelin I had. Not that that's a bad thing as I prefer the quicker handling. I have about 1k miles on them and seem to be wearing just fine. No cupping on the front and no chicken stripes on the back. I will buy them as long as they keep making them or something better comes along.
CraigO
I had a Roadsmart on the front and while happy with the grip it did triangulate with a distinct edge developing at the transition point between the two compounds making the steering progressively heavy. The wear rate was fairly even between the centre and the sides. My current Michelin has the same issue with triangulation and progressively heavier steering AND a line around each tyre which is apparently partial delaminating between the compounds! The new Conti Attack 2's achieve the "dual compound" effect by applying different amounts of heat during manufacture. Hotter in the centre making it harder, less to the sides. The idea is a seamless and progressive transition from hardwearing centre to grippy sides. Independent reviews look good and theory makes sense. I am about to fit a front and will report back on performance.
Noel
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Put on the blue spots and the FJR master today. I have to say that the brakes are much improved. Pain the ass getting them to bleed and I got just a tiny spot of brake fluid on the black plastic trim, causing it to dis-color. Bummer.
Was to hook up with Steve (moparman) to go for a ride today. Weather man said rain. It was a beautiful sunny day in SoCal. Well, there is always tomorrow.
Keep smiling,
CraigO
Installed the LED tail w/integrated turn signals (thanks RPM)... very cool and really cleaned up the appearance. I also moved my needles up a couple of notches and re-balanced the carbs. Purring very nicely and roaring when tasked.
Yesterday she got the new black PC'd rims (now the front is straight) and the Dunlop Roadsmarts. I already have 0 chicken strip (on rear at least) after a couple of test rides today while tuning... f'ing awesome. This is a nice bike and comfortable as an easy chair.
Marsh/Klavdy/others - are you coming through SJ area on TH? If so, I might ditch the towing idea and ride to Hayfork along with you guys... I have the gear and the luggage, so let me know.
Frank
Hey Frank, I just talked to Marsh and Klavdy and they are inland from you, they left today. Tomorrow, Sunday, they are going to stop by Randy's shop in Oakdale, then head over the Sierra's to take the long way to the rally.
For me, I'm jamming up I-5 to pick up my bike from Randy on Wednesday, then overnight stay in Loomis at my son's house, then Thursday AM up I-5 to Redding/Hayfork.
Later amigo! Pat
Quote from: Flynt on May 28, 2011, 09:39:18 PM
Installed the LED tail w/integrated turn signals (thanks RPM)... very cool and really cleaned up the appearance. I also moved my needles up a couple of notches and re-balanced the carbs. Purring very nicely and roaring when tasked.
Yesterday she got the new black PC'd rims (now the front is straight) and the Dunlop Roadsmarts. I already have 0 chicken strip (on rear at least) after a couple of test rides today while tuning... f'ing awesome. This is a nice bike and comfortable as an easy chair.
Marsh/Klavdy/others - are you coming through SJ area on TH? If so, I might ditch the towing idea and ride to Hayfork along with you guys... I have the gear and the luggage, so let me know.
Frank
G'day mate,
Pats pretty much got it, (S.J=San Jose,yeah?)looks like we'll be riding through the snow in the Sierras over the next day or so, we're holed up for the night in some Pumpkin Patch called Fruitfly or something, probably get up to around Lake Tahoe on Sunday.
Next Thursday , aha!
Next Thursday looks like a few may be meeting up in Weed then riding down the 3 to Weaverville.
Wanna do that with us?.
Put on new tires and now officially ready for WCR 2011. I will probably scrub them in Monday.
I went with the new Avon 55 ULtra. and the 110-70. It fits better on the 3 inch rim I think but time will tell. For the rear AV 46. I am wondering what pressure I should put them at ....
Max is 42psi -- I usually ran 35-38 up front and 40 psi on the rear ...
any idears..
steve
Quote from: moparman70 on May 29, 2011, 05:05:43 PM
Put on new tires and now officially ready for WCR 2011. I will probably scrub them in Monday.
I went with the new Avon 55 ULtra. and the 110-70. It fits better on the 3 inch rim I think but time will tell. For the rear AV 46. I am wondering what pressure I should put them at ....
Max is 42psi -- I usually ran 35-38 up front and 40 psi on the rear ...
any idears..
steve
Yep, that the pressure set I run on my AV45/46 pair.
Quote from: moparman70 on May 29, 2011, 05:05:43 PM
...... and the 110-70. It fits better on the 3 inch rim I think but time will tell........
Wait a minute.....This is the second or third time I've herd this on this forum.....
Our '89+ FJ's came with a 3" wide 17" rim. Didn't Yamaha choose a 120/70-17 tire for this?
Why would Yamaha choose a tire this size if the fucking rim is too narrow? IOW What's wrong with a 120/70 tire on a 3" rim?
Yes, I could see a 120/60 being pinched....Not a 120/70
What goes? Who is saying that a 3" wide front rim is too narrow for a 120/70 tire?
Where does this come from? Certainly not Yamaha, what do they know?
today scrubbed in the new front tire and enjoyed a run thru the foot hills outside sacramento.
fj feels good and rally ready.
1Paddy, I had a 3" front rim with a 120/70. The rim was to narrow. The wider wheel made that tire feel so much! better, and put a lot more contact area under me. More front brakes too.
Wider is better. Hell, I may put a R1 rear wheel on the front, so that 120 will be REAL WIDE! (OK, maybe a bit of exaggeration here)
Quote from: simi_ed on May 30, 2011, 01:30:57 AM
1Paddy, I had a 3" front rim with a 120/70. The rim was to narrow. The wider wheel made that tire feel so much! better, and put a lot more contact area under me. More front brakes too. Wider is better. Hell, I may put a R1 rear wheel on the front, so that 120 will be REAL WIDE! (OK, maybe a bit of exaggeration here)
Hey Ed, ok so you disagree with manufacturer. Soooo, the oem rubber Yamaha used on your '89 was wrong.....I disagree with that.
I do agree 1000% a 3.5" wide rim is better, no question, but I'm saying that there is no reason you need to run a undersized front tire with a 3" rim.
The difference in width of a 1/4" per side between the oem 3" and the popular FZR 3.5" rim, does not mean that you need a 110 tire.
Mark... what are your travel plans to the rally? I'm still towing the bike at this point, but looking for alternatives.
Frank
hey pat wasn't the original a bias ply ? so it is a bias ply radial thing.
Quote from: Flynt on May 30, 2011, 02:11:31 AM
Mark... what are your travel plans to the rally? I'm still towing the bike at this point, but looking for alternatives.
Frank
gonna truck in as I am still not 100% , leave around noon on thursday with fellow fj'er Craig Z.
Mark O.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 29, 2011, 11:06:23 PM
Quote from: moparman70 on May 29, 2011, 05:05:43 PM
...... and the 110-70. It fits better on the 3 inch rim I think but time will tell........
Wait a minute.....This is the second or third time I've herd this on this forum.....
Our '89+ FJ's came with a 3" wide 17" rim. Didn't Yamaha choose a 120/70-17 tire for this?
Why would Yamaha choose a tire this size if the fucking rim is too narrow? IOW What's wrong with a 120/70 tire on a 3" rim?
Yes, I could see a 120/60 being pinched....Not a 120/70
What goes? Who is saying that a 3" wide front rim is too narrow for a 120/70 tire?
Where does this come from? Certainly not Yamaha, what do they know?
Pat:
1) Relax man. Breathe... breathe.
2) Tires today are rather different than they were, oh 25 years ago. Hell, they're different than they were 10 years ago. One of the magazine tests I read (and I can't find what year it was, sorry) said that the OEM tire was a Dunlop K330, which was a bias-ply tire. Now for comparison, Pirelli makes a couple of 120/70R-17 tires. If you read their sizing chart, it is not recommended for use on a 3.0" rim (looking at Diablo with all suffixes, fits 3.5-3.75"). However, their 110/70R-17 is listed as acceptable for the 3.0x17 (3.0-3.5" okay). Tires have changed man! Even the sport demon, a bias ply tire, is not deemed appropriate for the 3.0" wheel. I firmly doubt that on a modern machine, a tire manufacturer would allow an OEM to fit a mismatch wheel/tire combination. Most likely, they'd make a special version of the desired rubber and test extensively to ensure safety (read: lack of lawsuits).
3) Nominal tire size (what's on the sidewall) is just that, nominal. If you actually measure, various brands are shockingly different in size when fitted. I can't think of the specific example right now, but I believe it was a bridgestone 190 width rear that measured at 198mm not that long ago (BT-57, I think it was). Really, putting any tire that isn't original on a motorcycle is a modification of sorts, as they're all different shapes, compounds, and carcasses. Different hammers, etc.
Personally, I'd go with the tire manufacturer's recommendation for the wheel size, rather than a 20+ year old spec given for tires that don't exist anymore. (That being said, I've got a 120/70 on the front of my FJ, because of availability.)
Relax, it's all okay. :empathy3:
Andyb -- what Pat says is on the money. I did my research and bottomline is I think the radials of today fit differently then the bias plys of the same size of yesteryear.
But to clarify on my choice - Avon showed the 120-70-17 to fit a 3 - 3.5 inch rim. So I could have went with the 120 but I had 120s and I felt the 3 inch pinched the tire too much I never like the profile the rim gave it. My postings on the subject didn't get any viable results as to what I was feeling.
The 110/70/17 - spec'd out to a 2.75 -3 inch rim. So for that size I was on the upper spec which I thought would fit better. To me it doesn't look pinched now. Time will tell.
The best thing to do is stick with the spec of the tire although it was difficult to find the rim specs for the some of the tire brands... but Avon had it on their site.
steve
Quote from: Flynt on May 30, 2011, 02:11:31 AM
Mark... what are your travel plans to the rally? I'm still towing the bike at this point, but looking for alternatives.
Frank
Frank,
I am going to trailer up as well on Thursday. I am planning on leaving the shop no later than 2pm.
Give me a call if you want to meet up somewhere; Dunnigan.
Randy - RPM
This might work out Randy... Dunnigan at about 4pm on Th? That will be my plan unless I communicate otherwise. I will call for more details.
BTW - smoked tail light is NICE!
Frank
Sorry to break up the WCR talk in this thread, but I did get my new Spiegler front brake lines put on today.
Thanks to Pat for his assistance in getting the correct ends ordered.
These lines cost $134 after shipping, not cheap, but they are a high quality item that look great, fit awesome, and were a breeze to install.
Highly recommended!
Broke them in with an 83 mile ride today with my son and his Honda 919!
Awesome day, even though it was a little windy, but the sun shine was great, and the time with my son, priceless!
Leon
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Very nice Leon, congrats! The next step, save your $$ and finish the job with a Spiegler 1 piece clutch line and rear brake line.
BTW those stainless header tubes look like chrome.....wow!
Cheers!
Thanks Pat, I appreciate the comments and assistance in getting my FJ to where it is today, you have been a huge help and my inspiration to have as nice of an FJ as I can get.
It's really funny to look back at just a little over a year ago and take into account of how many suble changes I have made in that time.
It's been a hell of a lot of fun,too!
Leon
Update to the last few days.Went out to Sugar Grove about an hour south west of here to look at a 1990 FJ1200.Bike had some issues but I bought it anyway.Dave took my 1100 out and I took the 1200 out for a test ride.At the first stop sign he had me pull up next to him and told me how great my 1100 was he even said this is better than my bike.After the test ride we setled on a price and I went back home and aranged for a ride to go get the 1990 FJ1200.It is here now and pics are in the gallery.Clutch slips carbs need work front forks need work front brake needs work tires are ok but I see that the rear wheel is tracking right chain is good I think.Dent in the tank some scratches to plastic etc supertrap pipe 1380cc engine allegedly lol riped up seat.My 85 is running great it will walk all over the 90 at the moment but the potential is there.I have replaced the seat and adjusted the float heights.I have an aftermarket clutch that I can install next.Going to get some seals for the forks and some carb bits to fix the bikes performance.Big bore pipe K@N's (dirty as crap) and no stage 3 carb kits so it runs but no where near what it should.Handling needs work too it wont turn like my 85.Front forks have been lowered 1/2 " or so and theres a 17" front wheel there instead of the 16 " on the 85.Looks like the head cover gasket is leaking too.
I am looking forward to seeing what the new bike can do when I get her dialed in.
Fresh Meat.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/150_06_06_11_7_33_43_0.jpeg)
Lucked out and found some plastic flexible trim to put on the edge of my freshly cut down screen. The trim looks like it belongs and matches perfectly the stock trim on my stock screen. StyleGuard # T3802. Two, 24" pieces for $3.87 at VIP Auto Supply.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/150_06_06_11_7_33_47_1.jpeg)
I used some of that stuff on my fairing inner panels to cut down some of the rattling and buzzing.
Randy T
Indy
Finally got around to adjusting the valves and replacing the spark plugs, waiting for UNI to send me a replacement dual pod.... under warranty. Once I get that, sometime this week, I can sync carbs and put her all back together. Had to replace 5 shims, both #4 intakes were tight(.004", .0025").... last time I swapped any was 50k miles ago, last check was ~30k ago. Everything else was at the loose end of the spec.
Anyone else find getting shims in and out of the outermost valves a PITA? I had to use a thin flat-blade screwdriver to depress the valve so I could get the old one out of #4s outboard bucket, it wouldn't clear the edge of the head. I tried repositioning the tool a couple times, but it didn't help....
Fixed the clutch and 3rd gear 1990 FJ1200,ordered fork seals.Worked on carbs some but not there yet more work to do to get her running like the 1985 FJ1100.
The WCR scrubbed of the last of what was left of the rear tire (Dunlop D207) that came with the Purple....Er Blue wheel, some females might be reading....I was thinking I had plenty of miles left for the rally, was I really WRONG!!!! We spent more time riding like grandma in the rain than Kookaloooo. In spite of all the rain and delicate riding I ended up with a 1" bald strip in the lean area on both sides. Talk about pucker.....I have begun the weaning process of letting go of my Purpleness. Marsh gave some great advice on Fluffer like stuff (might have been Purple related) that I could not comprehend, then he told me about spray on paint remover. Yesterday I picked up a can and covered the Purple/Blue paint on the rear wheel. Wow, some of the paint bubbled up and went all scrotum like when cold.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2662/5830323149_baf8afb118_b.jpg)
The old paint quickly cleaned off the machined part of the wheel but was quite stubborn on the cast side.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5080/5830873508_1c03f9d2ba_b.jpg)
This got me thinking about Marsh talking me away from an all White wheel.....Paint over the Purple/Blue with White and leave the machined parts polished Aluminum. Pat would be so proud..... I need to check with San_Dimas Mike to make sure that would not be too TJ......
That plan is OK, just make sure you do both wheels. :sarcastic: Your "Avatar pic" cut off your riding boots
Mike
I found that more paint stripper with a cordless drill with a 2" wire brush scrubbed off all paint on the pebble textured surface.
Wear long sleeves, gloves and goggles!! That paint stripper flys around like some nasty caustic snot when the wire wheel gets into the action. Multiple applications may be needed.
You can repaint the pebble textured areas or let them patina to a nice natural grey.
Cheers lads! How many days 'till the next WCR? Who is going to Colorado?
Quote from: FJmonkey on June 13, 2011, 07:16:50 PM
The old paint quickly cleaned off the machined part of the wheel but was quite stubborn on the cast side.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5080/5830873508_1c03f9d2ba_b.jpg)
This got me thinking about Marsh talking me away from an all White wheel.....Paint over the Purple/Blue with White and leave the machined parts polished Aluminum. Pat would be so proud..... I need to check with San_Dimas Mike to make sure that would not be too TJ......
Quote from: Mike 86 in San Dimas on June 13, 2011, 09:31:10 PM
That plan is OK, just make sure you do both wheels. :sarcastic: Your "Avatar pic" cut off your riding boots
Mike
Not only are my "Moon" riding boots cropped but I chose a picture with my bike, sans the Purple wheel. I am guessing there are more rally pics and movies yet to be posted. Like LA Mike doing the blip test in the grass and in gear. :rofl:
Recently,
Pulled the fairing off and replaced dash globes and cleaned/did a bit of a tidy up in there
Installed the 17" x 5.5" rear wheel which came with a swingarm that was in better nick, so I pulled the old rear end off and put in the nicely greased new rear end. The tyre was shot so I invested in a set of pilot road 3's.
Brake setup
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/1241_15_06_11_8_08_39_0.jpeg)
Afam 41T sprocket
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/1241_15_06_11_8_09_11_1.jpeg)
I dont like the gearing on the new setup. It sits at about 4000 rpm at 100kmh in 5th ie. when cruising on the expressway. I would like to bring it down to about 3000 - 3500 rpm but want to keep the nice new rear sprocket. Any suggestions on how many teeth I should run up front?
I also replaced the rear indicators with a slightly more subtle option.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/1241_15_06_11_8_09_15_2.jpeg)
I am in the process of chopping half a ton of plastic of my rear mudguard as my bike was blessed with the ugly long european(?) style guard.
While i've got your attention how do I find out the build date/year of my bike for certain?
Quote from: fb747 on June 15, 2011, 09:31:26 PM
I dont like the gearing on the new setup. It sits at about 4000 rpm at 100kmh in 5th ie. when cruising on the expressway. I would like to bring it down to about 3000 - 3500 rpm but want to keep the nice new rear sprocket. Any suggestions on how many teeth I should run up front?
Mate, I doubt you can get the revs down that low.
I run 18/38 and see around 120KPH at 4000 rpm with 5.5x17 rear wheel.
You are restricted in front sprocket size by clearance issues. 17 and 18 tooth sprockets are the best for clearance of the sprocket cover. 19 teeth has been mentioned in the past, but things will be pretty tight.
The 10th character of the VIN number will give you the model year (L='90, M='91), but I don't know where you find the build month/year.
Harvy
When you had the fairing off, you could have seen the sticker on the frame rail above the oil cooler. Has build date and VIN but model year is left up to your imagination. It might be possible to view it if you use a small focused flashlight and look above the cooler with a mirror, or down by the ignition key. Ridiculously hard to see with the fairing on though. Nice looking mod, tell us more about it unless I missed the description already. 18 tooth front will help the RPM, largest that fits to my knowledge without hacking, should work with a 41 rear and stock length chain, looks like you have room on your adjusters to go forward.
I've checked all stickers and plates but it still isn't clear.
Whats this lettering system?
I can assume it's either an 88 or 89 but I need to know for sure if I'm to bring the bike back to oz down the road.
I forgot to show off my new cooler.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/1241_15_06_11_10_58_21_0.jpeg)
To be honest I bought the rear wheel already set up in the swingarm and it was a case of out with the old and in with the new.
From what I can tell it's an FZR wheel as it has a yamaha stamp.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/1241_15_06_11_11_04_36_0.jpeg)
The hanger I am not sure on but it does allow the use of the stock brake arm as you can see. The brakes themselves are smaller in caliper and rotor than standard items, the upside (I think) is the slotted rotor.
The brakes work quite well but have lost a little "feel", I don't use rear brakes often anyways.
It was a straight forward swap with the added bonus of the braided line and it was great to be able to choose a nice set of tyres instead of bias rubbish.
I've only just scrubbed them in and will take the bike into the twisty stuff on the weekend. After which I can report on awesomeness.
How to read a VIN....
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_i_decode_a_Yamaha_vin_number (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_i_decode_a_Yamaha_vin_number)
Harvy
Thanks for that Harvey, i'll attempt to make sense out of that and try and decipher what year my bike is. I'm pretty sure it's an 89 but I'm just looking for clarification in case the build date was in 88. In that case I can take the bike to oz without the need for a compliance plate.
In other news I completed the tail end of my bike then took it out for a spin, I managed to replicate the pic in the top right hand corner of this page. :good2:
My evil plan is all starting to come together.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/1241_16_06_11_2_33_13_0.jpeg)
I painted over the Purple/Periwinkle yesterday. I masked off the machined part of the wheel that Marsh said was there. I thought I might be the Anti-Marsh with my wheels and go to the Light side (Yoda would be so proud of me). His are very dark (Black/Blue) with the machined aluminum exposed. I like the look. It is just on the rear. Here are a few pics.
Still dirty from WCR, but sporting a new Dunlop Q2 skin.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3210/5844225490_2533cab756_b.jpg)
Other side
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3120/5844225628_95bc72fc8b_b.jpg)
Close up, new right angle valve stem.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/5843679781_ed52765c70_b.jpg)
The White looks good on the FJ. I have solid white wheels on the Gixxer. One thing to note, they are a real pain to keep clean, especially the back.
Good luck with that, maybe just the middle part will make that less of a chore?
Dan
Quote from: Dan Filetti on June 17, 2011, 10:58:25 PM
The White looks good on the FJ. I have solid white wheels on the Gixxer. One thing to note, they are a real pain to keep clean, especially the back.
Good luck with that, maybe just the middle part will make that less of a chore?
Dan
I really like the all White look as well, I need to invent White paint with Teflon so I can just spray on wheel cleaner and hose off for a brilliant look. It is just a rattle can job till I figure out if I like the White/Aluminum look. I like it right now, but it is also new and that has some thrill....The fresh Q2 rubber is also thrilling......
Quote from: FJmonkey on June 17, 2011, 11:04:57 PM
The fresh Q2 rubber is also thrilling......
Nothing like a new set of shoes. :good2:
Dan
Hi, well interesting day it has had a missfire one one cylinder but only when cold, as luck would have it the first header i touched was the cylinder that was the problem (did not realise at the time, untill i grabbed the second header pipe, it still has my fingerprints stuck to it) changed oil, filter and plugs balanced the carbs and problem solved. :good2:
Dave
1990 FJ1200 did the fork seals yesterday and fixed draging brakes.Took the 85 for a ride :good:.Then took the 90 for a ride :good:
The 1990 FJ has got a new clutch,transmision,fork seals,seat and new jets in the carbs in the last couple of weeks she doesn't look as good or run as good as the 85 but she does run good now.Going to try some bigger pilots next to see what that does. Going out today I need to decide what bike to ride :bye2:
Quote from: Flying Scotsman on June 18, 2011, 10:37:16 AM
1990 FJ1200 did the fork seals yesterday and fixed draging brakes.Took the 85 for a ride :good:.Then took the 90 for a ride :good:
The 1990 FJ has got a new clutch,transmision,fork seals,seat and new jets in the carbs in the last couple of weeks she doesn't look as good or run as good as the 85 but she does run good now.Going to try some bigger pilots next to see what that does. Going out today I need to decide what bike to ride :bye2:
Hey,
Just curious....
Which brake was dragging and how did you fix it? My '91 has what I think is a warped rear disc but I haven't had a chance to deal with it yet.
Thanks
I cleaned all the crap of off the pistons and callipers.I screwed up doing the front forks though I used 10-30 oil instead of 10 w.10-30 w worked fine in the 85.
It's coming together, slowly...slowly. I got the engine painted and installed. I installed a EK ZZZ chain, rebuilt/converted a set of carbs from a 92 FJ1200 and got those installed. My airbox is fubar'd; the rear lug is broken, the right captured nut is no longer captured, the front is whoppy jawed which makes it difficult to get the boots on the carb's and it all scratched up. I got the rear subframe installed and now I'm wiring everything up.
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/Sky_5/100_2024.jpg)
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/Sky_5/100_2026.jpg)
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/Sky_5/100_2027.jpg)
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/Sky_5/100_2028.jpg)
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/Sky_5/100_2030.jpg)
(http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/Sky_5/100_2031.jpg)
Dang .... how does an airbox get messed up ?
did you get the bike in pieces ?
she is starting to look like a fine machine :good2:
KOokaloo!
Installed front Michelin Pilot Road 3 120/70/17. Added 4 discs to the Supertrapp for a total of 12. I don't have numbers to back up my impressions, however I think she's faster on the top with no noticable loss of bottom end torque. Sure sounds better going through the gears. The switch from a Pilot Power 2CT to a Road 3 seems to have made it resistant to turning in, but maybe it's because the sides were gone on the PP2CT. Did 100 miles in the wet today and no complaints about the tires! Someday when I grow up I'll buy a set of tires together, but for now I'm grateful to have full tread on both ends. I know folks are curious about the PR3s so I'll measure treadwear and update sometime. I hope there's enough tread to get me through the rally.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/574_26_06_11_4_32_55.jpeg)
Beautiful Bryan! Do you need a air box? I've got a good one I'll send ya....PM me your address. Kudos laddie! Pat
Put a new battery in, pumped up the tires, lubed the chain, inspected the brakes and lights, dusted the bike off, and took it for the first ride since early August last year. I dumped some fuel system cleaner in for good measure, but it ran well without it. Excellent!
COOL!!!
Finally cleaned up the mess from the leaky fork seal.
Installed nice new HH pads. :good:
Randy T
Indy
Quote from: rktmanfj on July 03, 2011, 10:03:44 AM
Finally cleaned up the mess from the leaky fork seal.
Installed nice new HH pads. :good:
Randy T
Indy
Sounds like you're getting ready for the N.E. Rally :good:
Installed my new Nissin 14mm clutch master cylinder along with braided lines. This allowed me to put in a second clutch spring. While I was in there I pulled the clutch pack for inspection and removed the infamous snap ring.
I was working on the bike outside with no cover and had to cover the engine case with rags a few times to stop a little rain. Just as I'd put everything back in and got the cover back on with the bolts finger tight it started to piss down, leaving me to torque them up in a downpour... good fun.
The result it great, the adjustable levers work a treat and I now have a nice short throw on the lever with good feel that's about as stiff as standard.
The best part of it all is absolutely no slip in the clutch now :yahoo:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/1241_04_07_11_8_39_23_0.jpeg)
Cheers, Ben.
Polished on the fork legs, outers and inners. The inners have some pretty good dings and longitudinal scratches on them, but you really can't feel them with a thumbnail now, so I think they will be better than they were. Anybody else ever bend the locating screws at the bottom of the outer leg :dash1:. New ones should be at the dealer tomorrow, hopefully! Pulled the steering head bearings out, both in pretty good shape, just a little dry. Took the upper triple clamp off, sanded & painted with gloss black engine enamel. Pulled the baffle out of the V&H silencer, it has some fiberglass left, it just isn't completely full. Anybody have a recommendation for a good muffler packing or does it really matter? :unknown: Hope everyone (well at least all us Yanks) had a great Independence Day!
KooKaloo, ya'all!
Joe
1990 Bruise
Quote from: Travis398 on July 03, 2011, 01:47:36 PM
Quote from: rktmanfj on July 03, 2011, 10:03:44 AM
Finally cleaned up the mess from the leaky fork seal.
Installed nice new HH pads. :good:
Randy T
Indy
Sounds like you're getting ready for the N.E. Rally :good:
I'm still a few hun short... spot me? :biggrin:
Randy T
Indy
I had a problem with the brackets supporting the Givi rack on the the rear frame, three out of four brackets were broken.
I assembled the rear re welded the brackets and made a support ( as seen on one of MZ rider's posts) with a 1/16 by 1 inch strap of metal.
I think I now can tow a truck with it!
AND!
I also installed my brand new RPM superbrace :yahoo: :yahoo:
Alain
Yesterday I put a new front sprocket on so I am now running an 18t up front and 41t out back with a 180/55/17 tyre. I find this combination to be quite close to stock and comfortable on the highway with good acceleration and top end.
I also did a full fork rebuild including both inner and outer sliders, new seals, 15w oil and a good clean out.
The result is that I am now a happy little vegimite. :good2:
Not just today, but over a few days, I replaced my exhaust system, with the one from sandybikespares in the UK.
This was made for the XJR1200/1300. Link is here. (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XJR1200-XJR1300-XJR-1200-1300-EXHAUST-CONVERSION-KIT-/140579075804)
I removed (2 kg or so):
(http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp62/billwest_perth/FJ1200/DSC08129.jpg)
and (about 6 kg each):
(http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp62/billwest_perth/FJ1200/DSC08131.jpg)
and replaced it with this (about 6kg total):
(http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp62/billwest_perth/FJ1200/DSC08132.jpg)
The old collector is now replaced by a 4-2-1 collector and is much simpler and lighter.
(http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp62/billwest_perth/FJ1200/DSC08133.jpg)
I cut about 20cm off the pipe leading from the collector to the can, so it doesn't sit too far back.
The whole lot is stainless steel, well made, and it fits. Sound is good, not overly loud (quieter than my original setup).
(http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp62/billwest_perth/FJ1200/DSC08137.jpg)
I may have to play with the idle mix a bit, turning the mixture screws in half a turn, as it is now a little too rich.
I will also add that handling seems improved, due to less unslung weight.
Bill.
(popcorn) (popcorn) (popcorn)
Quote from: billwest on July 30, 2011, 08:19:28 PM
"...I will also add that handling seems improved, due to less unslung weight."
Bill.
You're right, Flynt. It is not unslung.
But, it handles nicer, anyway.
And looks good too Bill!
Did you just cut and weld the XJR mount right onto the frame? I've gotta get back to oz where there is a shed and real tools.
Did you paint your foot peg mounts, they look nice... nicer than mine anyways.
No cutting nor welding of mounts. The exhaust strap was supplied, and I used a bit of flat with holes in the correct spot, to mount to a suitable spot behind the footpeg mount. I did paint the mounts btw. I had to, after one of my young ones came to grief on this bike a couple of years ago (he blames some young female in a little yellow car). The original footpeg mount was cracked. Bought some 2nd hand ones.
I am looking at raising the can a bit, by getting the pipe from the collector bent up.
Bill.
Yea it is better to have everything unboltable it just looked stuck on from the pic.
Those girls in little yellow cars are very dangerous, especially in the summer months.
Shouldn't be too difficult to bend, just get a bit of pipe that fits in the end of the exhaust tube and stick that in the vice, then slide the exhaust on it and heat up the area you want to bend with an oxy and bend away. Then just chop a bit off the top of your mounting bracket and bills your uncle!!! :lol: I crack me up.
It will look better sitting up a bit as the can would be in sync with the lines of the bike. The V&H I've got now will be perfect when I get a pensky and raise her up a bit.
Quote from: billwest on July 30, 2011, 08:19:28 PMThe whole lot is stainless steel, well made, and it fits.
Hey Bill that looks really good. Does your center stand line up correctly for the "stay arm" on the new pipe? Any other fitment issues beyond nipping the end off for proper length?
cheers- tim
Lines up just nicely.
Fitting problems - a bit fidly fitting the collector part on to the 4 downpipes. Nothing too difficult.
Bill.
I layed it down in a parking lot. Like an idiot. :crazy:
Thought for long periods of time what upgrades I can sneak in while fixing it.
Quote from: mijohnso on August 04, 2011, 08:57:37 PM
I layed it down in a parking lot. Like an idiot. :crazy:
Thought for long periods of time what upgrades I can sneak in while fixing it.
Mike are you all right, the bike can be fixed easier than you. Let me know if I can help with any parts.
Bob W
Well, 10 days ago,---Jacked the rear end up by about 3/4" by adjusting the Penske Sport Shock. Both wheels touch the ground now when parked on the center stand. Also cranked the spring up (down?) to bring the ride sag to about 30mm (180lb solo rider) from a previous 40mm setting. She's feeling quite sporty this way.
As everyone has said , the turn in is much quicker, especially around town, but also noticeable on the open road. I should have done it a year ago.
It also handles much better when riding two up which was the incentive for the adjustment.
......just had the seats recovered
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/178_16_11_11_10_13_06.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/178_16_11_11_11_38_07.jpeg)
[edit] Brook, I put your photos in for you. - Pat
Quote from: Brook on November 16, 2011, 10:27:26 PM
...... in the misc FJ photos!!
Just one photo? Really??? You would suck less with more details... :sarcastic: Looks like you did some work to get that look. What was involved?
..... what do you mean, suck less with more details??
I had the seats recovered, thats it. what else is there to say??
Quote from: Brook on November 16, 2011, 11:10:56 PM
..... what do you mean, suck less with more details??
I had the seats recovered, thats it. what else is there to say??
Then I missed your seat mods...Sorry. How did you get the seat like that? Other than recovering them, very not stock...
..... it's a R6 tail, use the R6 seat but had to cut and add to the plastic base to make it fit.
[it looks better in person]
Quote from: Brook on November 16, 2011, 11:21:23 PM
..... it's a R6 tail, use the R6 seat but had to cut and add to the plastic base to make it fit.
[it looks better in person]
It looks good in the photo...
....... If you did not see it before, I put another pic in the gallery[misc FJ photos]
Edit:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/178_16_11_11_11_38_07.jpeg)
You can REALLY zoom into this pic in the gallery.
Quote from: Brook on November 16, 2011, 11:41:07 PM
....... If you did not see it before, I put another pic in the gallery[misc FJ photos]
This not some minor piece of work you have performed....WOW!!! Not just cosmetic changes....Do you have all the mods listed somewhere?
...... thanks Pat,
no list yet, but, I can make one.............. Thanks for asking!!
Brook, your bike looks good. Nice work!
...... thanks Steve
Quote from: Brook on November 16, 2011, 11:41:07 PM
....... If you did not see it before, I put another pic in the gallery[misc FJ photos]
Edit:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/178_16_11_11_11_38_07.jpeg)
You can REALLY zoom into this pic in the gallery.
That is a beautiful bike, but please tell me that's not one of those cheap-assed Fram filters on it!
Leon
.... Yes Leon, I am afraid it is..... when I bought the oil, to break-in the motor. I bought a fram filter.
Adding 2001 FZ1 turnsignals. Since the new front turnsignals are three wire, I could wire up the running lights but I'm to lazy.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/545_07_02_12_6_23_41_2.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/545_07_02_12_6_23_37_1.jpeg)
Old turnsignal on the right, new one on the left.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/545_07_02_12_6_23_32_0.jpeg)
Quote from: RACER111V on April 24, 2011, 10:16:34 PM
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(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/270_24_04_11_8_55_33_2.jpeg)
Can someone tell me what rear swing-arm this is, which bike/year is out of?
looks yzf750 to me.... :scratch_one-s_head:
Quote from: WestOzXJR on May 20, 2012, 12:15:36 AM
Can someone tell me what rear swing-arm this is, which bike/year is out of?
See post #268 in this topic.....
Quote from: Firehawk068 on November 06, 2010, 11:46:30 PM
I removed the orange flapper valves in my gas tank cap, and lubricated all my lock cylinders with some 3-in-1 oil.........
Then I proceded to go on a 375 miles ride today around Arizona.....No issues with pushing gas out thru the key hole anymore.
Tested with multiple fillups. Tankbag and all! :yahoo:
Well, I pulled mine today -
(http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q630/goeway2012/Fun%20Stuff/CIMG0001.jpg)
It was tougher than I thought to get out, stuck in pretty well. Ended us carefully using a pick and prying it up through the small vent holes.
Oh my, at this rate, I'll be converted to a spin on oil filter sooner rather than later!
Took it for a ride and decided to do the R1 front brake mod. Maybe ride again tomorrow and then give her a bath. :good2: