FJowners.com

General Category => Modifications => Topic started by: Cash Dereszynski on April 26, 2016, 08:44:54 PM

Title: LED turn signals Continued
Post by: Cash Dereszynski on April 26, 2016, 08:44:54 PM
OK I get that I have to by pass the multi connection for the turn signal with a digital relay unit , Either 2 or 3  connectors, the wiring diagram doesnt show the Chocolate,or Dark green that attaches to the turn lamps. I see the ground (black) so what are  the other wires I attach to the new digital relay to jumper the old relay out of the circuit?
And I readily admit this is over my pay-grade any help ?

Cash 
Title: Re: LED turn signals Continued
Post by: ct7088 on April 26, 2016, 09:08:03 PM
The green and brown wires go to the right(green) and left(brown). Each wire connects the front, rear and dash indicator then goes to the flasher(turn signal) switch. The brown with white stripes wire goes to the relay from the flasher switch.
This brown/white wire would go to the new relay, 12 volts and ground are also required for operation of the relay. This information comes from a 84/85 wiring diagram. The cancel function of the turn signal will no longer work with this change.

Chris
Title: Re: LED turn signals Continued
Post by: Cash Dereszynski on May 01, 2016, 10:45:33 PM
I ordered relay

Cash
Title: Re: LED turn signals Continued
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 01, 2016, 10:50:07 PM
Cash, why not use your oem flasher unit with resistors?  Much more simple.
Title: Re: LED turn signals Continued
Post by: DieHappy on May 04, 2016, 07:57:43 PM
I'm using resistors, seem to work fine.
Title: Re: LED turn signals Continued
Post by: FJmonkey on May 04, 2016, 08:09:17 PM
You only need the resistors to keep the flash rate the same. The fast flash is intended to indicate a burnt bulb. Once you go LED this no longer works. Why not deal with the fast flash? I think it gets more attention.
Title: Re: LED turn signals Continued
Post by: Nova on May 04, 2016, 08:22:42 PM
Resistors work fine, but think about what you are doing. You get hyperflash or no flash because the LEDs have a low amperage requirement and don't provide the resistance necessary to make the unit flash properly. So you have a more efficient bulb that you have to make less efficient because of older technology. Which means you've thrown away that efficiency.

By changing to an electronic flasher you can use either incandescent OR LED bulbs... and if you go with LEDs then you reduce the amount of draw on your electrical system. That means you have more capacity in your electrics for some accessories (even some that may be a bit power hungry like heated grips) without blowing your system up trying to draw too many amps.

It may be straightforward to just throw on some resistors, but if Cash can make the digital relay work he'll be ahead of the game. In my opinion the benefits outweigh the hassle. I wish I could offer better advice on how to do that part, but my 3XW is wired differently from the 1TX.  :unknown:
Title: Re: LED turn signals Continued
Post by: FJmonkey on May 04, 2016, 08:41:12 PM
I agree with the lower power usage of LED, but we don't intentionally ride with our flashers on all the time. The advantage of LED is longer life (50K hours) and possible increased brightness.
Title: Re: LED turn signals Continued
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 04, 2016, 09:59:10 PM

If you want to really take a load off, convert your headlight. It's something that's on all the time.
55/65 watt burns 4.6/5.4 amps and a brighter LED headlight pulls 25 watts, 2.1 amps.
http://www.xenondepot.com/H4-LED-motorcycle-headlight-kit-p/h4-led-mhl.htm (http://www.xenondepot.com/H4-LED-motorcycle-headlight-kit-p/h4-led-mhl.htm)

I would lose the self canceling feature on my flasher (turn) signals if I went to a digital flasher, no thanks.
LED turn signals with resistors works just fine for me.
Title: Re: LED turn signals Continued
Post by: Cash Dereszynski on May 12, 2016, 03:37:21 PM
Installed new flasher relay still no workie. Just the left side not the right side. WTF?

Cash
Title: Re: LED turn signals Continued
Post by: ct7088 on May 12, 2016, 07:04:39 PM
Most LED's are polarity sensitive. Try reversing the wires to one of the units that doesn't work.