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Title: Led Turn signals
Post by: Cash Dereszynski on April 22, 2016, 05:36:53 PM
Tail light with LED's from RPM, front turn lights LEDs from well lets say somewhere in China. The left turn side works perfect,the right side is on all the time no blinkie. I've got capacitors in line for the right (no blinkie) no capacitors on the left works perfect. Is there a possibility of a switch problem on the handle bar? The relay in the harness seams to click at the proper rate for the left,but no clickie for the right. I've tried to eleminate the caps on the right and use one or two, none of the combinations have any effect.
WTF? Anyone have any thoughts on this conundrum.

As always best regards

Cash
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: aviationfred on April 22, 2016, 05:44:42 PM
Get in touch with FJmonkey.....he just went through a similar problem...... Check the ground wire to the bulb socket.

Fred
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: FJmonkey on April 22, 2016, 06:32:48 PM
My RH front indicator had an intermittent fast flash problem with standard bulbs. I checked the bulbs and they tested as good. So when I had the fairing off I connected the turn signal and messed around with the wires. I could get the flash rate to normal but not for long. I thought the problem was in the connector. I cut the light housing open thinking a bad solder joint. No, good solder joints, epoxy that back together. Then I went after it again and found the ground to the housing looked a bit karked. I could get the flash rate back to normal by stuffing the wire back into its self. The wires broke at the crimp, the angle of the wire determined if the conductors touched or not. I cut the wire, added a touch more wire and soldered the ground directly to the housing. Some epoxy over to secure it and all will be good again.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/9/104_22_04_16_5_29_19_1.jpeg)   

The fix
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/9/104_22_04_16_5_29_18_0.jpeg)

Yea!!  :dance2:
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: Cash Dereszynski on April 22, 2016, 09:42:30 PM
Ground problem,I'll try that. I d like to have indicators for the rally.

Cash
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: FJmonkey on April 22, 2016, 09:47:25 PM
Quote from: Cash Dereszynski on April 22, 2016, 09:42:30 PM
Ground problem,I'll try that. I d like to have indicators for the rally.

Cash

If you don't fix it, ride with us in a group... We have you covered dude....
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: Cash Dereszynski on April 22, 2016, 10:07:26 PM
Hand signals and blu tooth helmets.

Cash
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: FJmonkey on April 22, 2016, 10:17:27 PM
Quote from: Cash Dereszynski on April 22, 2016, 10:07:26 PM
Hand signals and blu tooth helmets.

Cash
Helmet signals and blue hands???
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: Pat Conlon on April 22, 2016, 10:39:26 PM
No blue hands, we got grip heaters....

For years I poo poo'ed grip heaters. I can be such a stubborn knuckle head. Grip heaters rock.

My Oxford grips are da bomb.

Glad you got her blinking Cash :good2:
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: movenon on April 23, 2016, 09:13:25 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 22, 2016, 10:39:26 PM
No blue hands, we got grip heaters....

For years I poo poo'ed grip heaters. I can be such a stubborn knuckle head. Grip heaters rock.

My Oxford grips are da bomb.

Glad you got her blinking Cash :good2:

+1 on the grip heaters ! Go for the Oxfords !
George
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: FJmonkey on April 23, 2016, 09:39:23 AM
I like the RPM grip heaters, I can use the foam grips (or any grips), better on long rides for me. And it fits my cheap ass budget. More money for gas.
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: Nova on April 23, 2016, 11:29:25 AM
If you're going all LED lights, don't put in resistors to make them blink. Swap out the old flasher for an electronic one made to work with LEDs. First, it's an easy swap back to OEM, and you're not hacking up your wiring harness. Second, the savings you get from the LEDs will allow you the extra amps to run those heated grips you're talking about without taxing your electrical system. If you use resistors with the LEDs you're using those amps up when they could be saved for something useful.
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: FJmonkey on April 23, 2016, 11:33:48 AM
Quote from: Nova on April 23, 2016, 11:29:25 AM
If you're going all LED lights, don't put in resistors to make them blink. Swap out the old flasher for an electronic one made to work with LEDs.
More details on this please. Will it work for all years?
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: Nova on April 23, 2016, 11:47:59 AM
They are universal. They don't use load resistance to flash. Therefore you don't need resistors.

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/flashers-load-resistors/lf1-s-flat-universal-motorcycle-electronic-flasher/787/ (https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/flashers-load-resistors/lf1-s-flat-universal-motorcycle-electronic-flasher/787/)

http://www.amazon.com/CARCHET-Signal-Flasher-Motorcycle-Indicator/dp/B00CMO3V0S (http://www.amazon.com/CARCHET-Signal-Flasher-Motorcycle-Indicator/dp/B00CMO3V0S)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUUidl1k7uE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUUidl1k7uE)
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: FJmonkey on April 23, 2016, 11:51:04 AM
Quote from: Nova on April 23, 2016, 11:47:59 AM
They are universal. They don't use load resistance to flash. Therefore you don't need resistors.

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/flashers-load-resistors/lf1-s-flat-universal-motorcycle-electronic-flasher/787/ (https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/flashers-load-resistors/lf1-s-flat-universal-motorcycle-electronic-flasher/787/)

http://www.amazon.com/CARCHET-Signal-Flasher-Motorcycle-Indicator/dp/B00CMO3V0S (http://www.amazon.com/CARCHET-Signal-Flasher-Motorcycle-Indicator/dp/B00CMO3V0S)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUUidl1k7uE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUUidl1k7uE)

Cool, thanks....
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: Nova on April 23, 2016, 12:07:40 PM
No problem. LEDs and electronic relays also a good way to free up some power on vintage bikes from the 70's. They never had a whole lot of extra amps available to begin with anyway.
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: Cash Dereszynski on April 23, 2016, 02:36:55 PM
Which one specficly did you buy?

PS

This the reason all of you's guys are awesome, much respect new Yamaha Flasher is about a Hun $...!

Cash
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: Cash Dereszynski on April 23, 2016, 02:39:03 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 22, 2016, 10:39:26 PM
No blue hands, we got grip heaters....

For years I poo poo'ed grip heaters. I can be such a stubborn knuckle head. Grip heaters rock.

My Oxford grips are da bomb.

Glad you got her blinking Cash :good2:
All my Beemers had heated grips love them.

Cash
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: Paul1965 on April 23, 2016, 02:50:47 PM
Quote from: Cash Dereszynski on April 23, 2016, 02:36:55 PM
Which one specficly did you buy?

PS

This the reason all of you's guys are awesome, much respect new Yamaha Flasher is about a Hun $...!

Cash

I replaced mine last year and I'm pretty sure the stock flasher is a 3 pin, so you need a 3 pin electronic one. This is the one that I used and it works great: http://www.amazon.com/3-Pin-CF-13-Electronic-Flasher-Signal/dp/B008C9YJ6C?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00 (http://www.amazon.com/3-Pin-CF-13-Electronic-Flasher-Signal/dp/B008C9YJ6C?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00)

Watch out for some of the cheaper ones, they slow down the flash rate but not nearly enough.
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: Cash Dereszynski on April 23, 2016, 02:52:41 PM
Quote from: Nova on April 23, 2016, 11:47:59 AM
They are universal. They don't use load resistance to flash. Therefore you don't need resistors.

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/flashers-load-resistors/lf1-s-flat-universal-motorcycle-electronic-flasher/787/ (https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/flashers-load-resistors/lf1-s-flat-universal-motorcycle-electronic-flasher/787/)

http://www.amazon.com/CARCHET-Signal-Flasher-Motorcycle-Indicator/dp/B00CMO3V0S (http://www.amazon.com/CARCHET-Signal-Flasher-Motorcycle-Indicator/dp/B00CMO3V0S)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUUidl1k7uE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUUidl1k7uE)

Which one specficly did you buy?

PS

This the reason all of you's guys are awesome, much respect new Yamaha Flasher is about a Hun $...!

Cash
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: Nova on April 23, 2016, 03:26:19 PM
Quote from: Paul1965 on April 23, 2016, 02:50:47 PM
Quote from: Cash Dereszynski on April 23, 2016, 02:36:55 PM
Which one specficly did you buy?

PS

This the reason all of you's guys are awesome, much respect new Yamaha Flasher is about a Hun $...!

Cash

I replaced mine last year and I'm pretty sure the stock flasher is a 3 pin, so you need a 3 pin electronic one. This is the one that I used and it works great: http://www.amazon.com/3-Pin-CF-13-Electronic-Flasher-Signal/dp/B008C9YJ6C?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00 (http://www.amazon.com/3-Pin-CF-13-Electronic-Flasher-Signal/dp/B008C9YJ6C?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00)

Watch out for some of the cheaper ones, they slow down the flash rate but not nearly enough.

What he said.
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: aviationfred on April 23, 2016, 06:41:40 PM
A note on the LED flasher relay. On the 1989 models, the OEM flasher unit has 5 pins. I can't vouch for how many pins the '84-'87 models have.


Fred
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: ct7088 on April 23, 2016, 08:48:49 PM
On the 84/85 FJ the the flasher relay does multiple jobs coil power, start relay, turn signal cancel(reed relay) and flasher. I assume the RPM LED tail light came with resisters installed because it worked with no wiring changes.

Chris
Title: Re: Led Turn signals
Post by: Cash Dereszynski on April 23, 2016, 09:32:49 PM
Thanx to all

Cash