I would think that his would be a common question sorry, but I searhed and did not find results.
I have a 1992 FJ1200. It has the stock windshield and I have always experienced alot if wind buffeting. With that said, what is the most preferred replacement that may help with this?
Not an easy answer Tory, some have gone with shorter screens with good results, others taller. Seek other members near you to try different sizes.
It has been a common question, but there is no common answer.
There have been a number of differing aftermarket screens tried by people, but I have not seen any individual preference standout.
My choice for my '91 (same model as your 92) was to make an extension that uses the "slot" between the fins on my OEM screen to help push the air up and over. Unfortunately, this "slot" or "letterbox" windscreen seems to not be available in the US.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/99_14_04_11_9_02_04.jpeg) (http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/99_14_04_11_9_00_34.jpeg)
Cheers (from an ex-Michigander)
Arnie
How tall are you Troy?
I'm 6'3" and I tried the +4 taller windscreen only to find it made matters worse for me.
http://bikescreen.com/collections/yamaha/FJ-1200 (http://bikescreen.com/collections/yamaha/FJ-1200)
Low screen providing clean air with a quiet helmet and custom ear plugs works best for me.
I have a 1989, so I don't have first hand knowledge of your buffeting experience.
Here is a write up for a Power Bronze flip screen for the '91 and later models.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=10215.30#top (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=10215.30#top)
Fred
I've thought about trying one of these:
http://www.laminarlip.com/fj12.php (http://www.laminarlip.com/fj12.php)
Quote from: Arnie on February 28, 2016, 06:00:07 PM
It has been a common question, but there is no common answer.
There have been a number of differing aftermarket screens tried by people, but I have not seen any individual preference standout.
My choice for my '91 (same model as your 92) was to make an extension that uses the "slot" between the fins on my OEM screen to help push the air up and over. Unfortunately, this "slot" or "letterbox" windscreen seems to not be available in the US.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/99_14_04_11_9_02_04.jpeg) (http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/99_14_04_11_9_00_34.jpeg)
Cheers (from an ex-Michigander)
Arnie
Hello Arnie,
Does your extension reduce the wind noise in the helmet ? I am 1m85 tall and have the same stock screen with the fin, and I have lot of wind around the neck just under the helmet, and that is very noisy.
Thanks for your feedback.
The top one on the laminar lip Web page is actually mine. I think it works great but then it was already on the bike when I bought it in 2005 and I've never ridden without it. The previous owner is 6'4" and I'm 5'8". it may have been more beneficial to him.
Zwartie
Quote from: Nova on February 28, 2016, 09:27:25 PM
I've thought about trying one of these:
http://www.laminarlip.com/fj12.php (http://www.laminarlip.com/fj12.php)
Quote from: tory on February 28, 2016, 05:40:58 PM
I would think that his would be a common question sorry, but I searhed and did not find results.
I have a 1992 FJ1200. It has the stock windshield and I have always experienced alot if wind buffeting. With that said, what is the most preferred replacement that may help with this?
Troy, in my opinion, short screens that leave your head and upper body in clean air give a quieter, smoother ride. The downside is the lack of protection from the wind if you ride long distances, fast or in the rain.
Higher screens mostly come with buffeting, the trade off being protection. You can ride at speed all day without having to brace yourself against the wind and they significantly reduce the amount of rain hitting you. I can ride all day in pissing rain and my neck muff remains dry.
I wear ear plugs so the buffeting doesn't worry me but when I stand on the pegs it is certainly a lot quieter.
Horses for courses. Neither is better than the other, depends what sort of riding you do.
I have a number of screens and if I wasn't so lazy I would ideally change them between day rides and trips.
After much experimentation I have settled on the standard (letterbox, finned etc) screen it came with.
Best all rounder for me.
I also have a preference for riding with my visor raised, this screen allows me to do that, the others don't.
Noel
I used universal wind deflector. Worked perfectly but top edge was exactly on my eye height, so I had to bend to look through deflector or stretch my neck to have view on over top edge.
A wind deflector like you're showing, or like mine (a couple of posts below) will push the wind UP some distance. You can feel the wind with your hand if you need to know where.
If your eye line is through the top edge of that deflector, just cut it lower by about an inch.
Then you'll be looking over the edge while the wind is still going over your head.
Arnie
Quote from: MOTOMYSZOR on February 29, 2016, 01:00:20 PM
I used universal wind deflector. Worked perfectly but top edge was exactly on my eye height, so I had to bend to look through deflector or stretch my neck to have view on over top edge.
On my '92 I have a Sedcam which was on the bike when I bought it in '07. I'm 5' 11" or 180cm tall. No buffeting, and the wind travels just atop the crest of my helmet. It's just enough to fling off rain drops if I turn my head. This is on a stock seat. I have an older Corbin which drops me down quite a bit behind the screen, and the wind completely misses me so the rain won't blow off my face shield.
If needed, I would buy another one for sure, if I could find it cheaper than on this site even better.
http://japan.webike.net/products/21341283.html (http://japan.webike.net/products/21341283.html)
This pic is from the time that I bought it.
If you don't mind listening to music, get you some etymotic ear headphones, you'll think your riding in a Cadillac with the Windows rolled up, etymotic.com.......some people need to moisten them to get a solid seal in your ear but once you get use to them you'll never ride without them, there also have a high quality sound.
I can't believe nobody has mentioned the use of the MRA Touring Vario windscreen. :pardon:
The adjustable flip shield works very well. I use mine during the cooler/cold months. With the adjustment at full up, the air hits at my helmet. Keeping all the cold air off of my torso. In the rain, the water is pushed down on my visor.
In the US. The MRA windscreens can be found at Twistedthrottle.com
A photo of Leon's 1991 with the MAR Vario screen
Fred
I am hesitant to say much about windscreens because of the variables involved. On my 1990 I run a MRA Touring windscreen as Fred mentioned and love it but it might not be right for someone else. I am 6'-0, and long in the torso. At speeds I like to travel my helmet is in a dead air space, or at least no buffeting. I do get some wind pressure on my chest witch is OK with me. The MRA Touring wind screen will put more pressure on the fairing uprights where the screen bolts on to. More flexing at higher speeds. That will be true with any taller windscreen. I think the MRA is made in Germany and sometimes it takes a while to get one. Took me about 5 or 6 weeks from memory. Twisted Throttle can tell what the time line is they a good folks to deal with.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/6/1651_04_03_14_5_47_07.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/8/1651_17_04_15_8_02_53.jpeg)
George
Quote from: Arnie on February 28, 2016, 06:00:07 PM
It has been a common question, but there is no common answer.
There have been a number of differing aftermarket screens tried by people, but I have not seen any individual preference standout.
My choice for my '91 (same model as your 92) was to make an extension that uses the "slot" between the fins on my OEM screen to help push the air up and over. Unfortunately, this "slot" or "letterbox" windscreen seems to not be available in the US.
Cheers (from an ex-Michigander)
Arnie
The "letterbox" windscreen was not available in the US AFAIK. It seems to have been mainly limited to Australia and Japan. I managed to find one and have it shipped to the states from Japan. I'm just waiting for the weather to get better so I can see how well it deflects the air for me.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on February 28, 2016, 08:29:10 PM
Low screen providing clean air with a quiet helmet and custom ear plugs works best for me.
My 84 has standard screen and I have buffering not that it worries me too much, a few are commenting on Clean Air,
Brings me to my Problem, Helmet Noise or should I say BUZZ!!!
If I stand up while riding in a Lot of wind, helmet is quiet but whilst sitting in normal Position I get a Low BUZZ, I do wear ear plugs but you can still hear a constant Annoying BUZZ in the background.
Opening Visor quietens it down only because there is a lot of wind noise.
I don't know if it is due to the new Helmet being Very quiet that I can now hear it.
Would the buffering be vibrating my helmet to produce this BUZZ?
Does anybody else have this problem?
Cheers Alan
Thank you for all the advice. I suppose I did leave out the details.
I am 5.9, I have a stock shield, bar risers and a Corbin seat. I also have a Scala rider which was s where the buffeting becomes the biggest issue.
I do not mind the shorter stock shield and do not want to "hide" behind it. Just that this is the noisiest bike I've ever owned wind turbulence wise.
I have considered a Laminar lip or F1 but would like to know if they helped.
I am.most curious now about the "letter slot" shield. I have had other bikes in n the past with similar designs and they worked excellent eliminating negative air. Any one know how to find one for the late FJs here in the States?
Has anyone ever tried cutting a slot in there stock shield? I have heard, with other bikes, that this eliminates the negative air helping buffeting.
Quote from: tory on March 02, 2016, 08:57:04 AM
Has anyone ever tried cutting a slot in there stock shield? I have heard, with other bikes, that this eliminates the negative air helping buffeting.
Yes, Skymasters cut a hole in his screen. Not sure of the end result. Bit of a Franken bike last I saw...
Yea, where is Mike? He has been quiet lately.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 02, 2016, 09:32:17 AM
Yea, where is Mike? He has been quiet lately.
Busy moving to Florida, renting out his house here in SoCal.
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 02, 2016, 09:58:21 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 02, 2016, 09:32:17 AM
Yea, where is Mike? He has been quiet lately.
Busy moving to Florida, renting out his house here in SoCal.
Which Mike is moving to Florida, LA or Skymasters? another FJ Brother to ride with...Im stoked. let me know which Mike so I can PM him.
would be great to have another attendee at Boone...#booneissoon!
Scott
Quote from: FJscott on March 02, 2016, 11:19:26 AM
Busy moving to Florida, renting out his house here in SoCal.
Which Mike is moving to Florida, LA or Skymasters? another FJ Brother to ride with...Im stoked. let me know which Mike so I can PM him.
would be great to have another attendee at Boone...#booneissoon!
Scott
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Sykmasteres
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 02, 2016, 09:22:59 AM
Quote from: tory on March 02, 2016, 08:57:04 AM
Has anyone ever tried cutting a slot in there stock shield? I have heard, with other bikes, that this eliminates the negative air helping buffeting.
Yes, Skymasters cut a hole in his screen. Not sure of the end result. Bit of a Franken bike last I saw...
Would love to see/hear how that went. Is there a post on it?
Quote from: tory on March 02, 2016, 01:45:44 PM
Yes, Skymasters cut a hole in his screen. Not sure of the end result. Bit of a Franken bike last I saw...
Would love to see/hear how that went. Is there a post on it?
Here it is, scroll down till just below the video, about 1/3 of the way.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=7691.msg115581#msg115581 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=7691.msg115581#msg115581)
Quote from: Sparky84 on March 02, 2016, 01:31:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on February 28, 2016, 08:29:10 PM
Low screen providing clean air with a quiet helmet and custom ear plugs works best for me.
My 84 has standard screen and I have buffering not that it worries me too much, a few are commenting on Clean Air,
Brings me to my Problem, Helmet Noise or should I say BUZZ!!!
If I stand up while riding in a Lot of wind, helmet is quiet but whilst sitting in normal Position I get a Low BUZZ, I do wear ear plugs but you can still hear a constant Annoying BUZZ in the background.
Opening Visor quietens it down only because there is a lot of wind noise.
I don't know if it is due to the new Helmet being Very quiet that I can now hear it.
Would the buffering be vibrating my helmet to produce this BUZZ?
Does anybody else have this problem?
Cheers Alan
Hey Alan, sorry I missed this post.
Like I said, a good helmet, a neck gater (to seal the lower opening of the helmet) and custom ear plugs is about all I can do gear wise...
Yep, I also have the stock windscreen on my '84. Want to hear something strange?
I replaced the oem Mickey Mouse ear mirrors (bar mount) with some sexy Italian Rizoma mirrors and most of the helmet rumble went away. The Rizoma mirrors mount lower and further outside than the oem barn doors.
My theory is that I was getting turbulence off the big oem mirrors and that was hitting me right in the helmet.
Kinda like vortices coming off the tip of an airplane wing.
The lower, wider Rizoma mirrors moved the tumbling air away from my helmet.
Just a theory, but the results are unmistakable.
Thank you for the link FJmonkey. I am curious how that worked out in the end.
He mentioned a CBR shield could be made to work??? Who can tell me more about that! It would be great to find a used one to play with.
Quote from: tory on March 02, 2016, 03:46:23 PM
Thank you for the link FJmonkey. I am curious how that worked out in the end.
He mentioned a CBR shield could be made to work??? Who can tell me more about that! It would be great to find a used one to play with.
The CBR1100xx windscreen mod has only been proven to work on the '88-'90 models.
Fred
I have a brand new MRA one, but that is the stock size. When i bought my FJ, there was a Givi touring windscreen on the bike, that was perfect for me. Im 183 cm tall.
:yes:
Quote from: Nova on March 01, 2016, 06:53:12 PM
Quote from: Arnie on February 28, 2016, 06:00:07 PM
It has been a common question, but there is no common answer.
There have been a number of differing aftermarket screens tried by people, but I have not seen any individual preference standout.
My choice for my '91 (same model as your 92) was to make an extension that uses the "slot" between the fins on my OEM screen to help push the air up and over. Unfortunately, this "slot" or "letterbox" windscreen seems to not be available in the US.
Cheers (from an ex-Michigander)
Arnie
The "letterbox" windscreen was not available in the US AFAIK. It seems to have been mainly limited to Australia and Japan. I managed to find one and have it shipped to the states from Japan. I'm just waiting for the weather to get better so I can see how well it deflects the air for me.
That screen is the same as on my '90 and it does buffet, a lot (6'1' or 185.4cm). My previous FJ was a '95 and was identical in all respects but it had a smooth after market screen, which was made in Queensland, and did not buffet at all. I recently bought a screen off ebay but it was the wrong fit, being for a pre 90 model. I think OZ got bikes with both types.
Etymotic.com will solve everyone's windscreen buffeting noise problems, just saying, and more than any screen no matter what size can ever dream of doin!!
How about a Targa? It seems to have a nice lip, and any wind noise is cured with a nice set of ear plugs. Pat is 100% correct, plugs and a good neck seal are where it's at.
A nice helmet can work wonders, too.
Quote from: Yamahammer1200 on March 12, 2016, 08:15:27 PM
How about a Targa? It seems to have a nice lip, and any wind noise is cured with a nice set of ear plugs. Pat is 100% correct, plugs and a good neck seal are where it's at.
A nice helmet can work wonders, too.
If it's a Targa +2", like this one, it's noisy as hell for someone my height (5'14").
FWIW, even custom ear plugs or buds only kill off part of the noise.
(http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu159/rktmanfj/20130803_190402_zps6a3689c8.jpg)
(http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu159/rktmanfj/Picture395.jpg)
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 02, 2016, 09:32:17 AM
Yea, where is Mike? He has been quiet lately.
I saw Mike (Streetmasters) 2 weeks ago while he was in town; living in Albuquerque, New Mexico now. We talked a bit about the windscreen issue, and he said that the letter box slot cut into the windscreen was a huge improvement, almost no buffeting or noise.
As for experimenting with windscreens, just buy a sheet of clear Plexiglas from your local hardware store. Trace your existing windscreen onto a piece of poster board, then use that as a pattern to cut out as many windscreens as you want. Bend it into shape with an electric heat gun. It doesn't have to be pretty; you're just going to be hacking on it and trying different shapes. Once you find a shape that you like, you can cut up a "real" windscreen without worry. Or once you discover how easy it is, you might make one yourself.
Bill
I ditched the OEM screen.
I now use one from a local supplier in Perth: (click). (http://www.eaglescreens.com.au/?productcats=yamaha)
(http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp62/billwest_perth/FJ1200/IMG_9679_11_1.jpg) (http://s398.photobucket.com/user/billwest_perth/media/FJ1200/IMG_9679_11_1.jpg.html)
Quote from: billwest on March 13, 2016, 07:04:05 PM
I ditched the OEM screen.
I now use one from a local supplier in Perth: (click). (http://www.eaglescreens.com.au/?productcats=yamaha)
(http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp62/billwest_perth/FJ1200/IMG_9679_11_1.jpg) (http://s398.photobucket.com/user/billwest_perth/media/FJ1200/IMG_9679_11_1.jpg.html)
Eagle make great screens and I have one of their touring units, same as Bill's. It
is much quieter but doesn't offer quite the same protection, I get a lot more rain on me and I can't ride with my visor raised without my eyelids flapping.
If neither of those things are a problem they are much smoother, but not as smooth as clean air.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5195/7158664868_2084dfba6e_c.jpg)
Noel