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Title: 1250 head and ignition advance
Post by: Yamahammer1200 on January 28, 2016, 11:42:54 PM
Pulling off fairing panels revealed this ignition advance and rev limiter.  Can anyone ID this unit?  The advance is set to 5 degrees and the rev limiter to 9500 rpm.  The cylinder head says 1250, the tuning shop billed for a 1300, according to the paperwork.  The work was by original owner and the shop ain't talking, so I'm left with a bunch of questions.  Oh yeah, the Dyno peaked at 94HP.  K&N filter, stock pipes, and no clue about the jetting. 
Title: Re: 1250 head and ignition advance
Post by: fj1289 on January 29, 2016, 01:38:49 AM
It is a Dyna 2000 ignition system.  You can find the instructions here: http://www.dynaonline.com/skins/downloads/instruct/DDK7-1.pdf (http://www.dynaonline.com/skins/downloads/instruct/DDK7-1.pdf)

The 1250cc engines are commonly called 1300's - so I wouldn't be worried about that.

That seems like a low dyno sheet - even for a Factory Pro dyno.  If you are within a full days drive of RPM I know where I'd take it without a second thought. RPMRacingca.com

You'll find plenty of excellent reports on Randy and Robert at RPM.  

Good luck!

Edit - if it's a Factory Pro dyno - 94 with stock pipes and airbox doesn't sound off the mark
Title: Re: 1250 head and ignition advance
Post by: JMR on January 29, 2016, 02:05:30 PM
 The advance isn't 5 degrees....it is on the #5 advance curve which has the slowest total advance curve. Initial timing is probably 35 degrees or so. You might want to try the #2 curve
Title: Re: 1250 head and ignition advance
Post by: Yamahammer1200 on January 29, 2016, 09:04:11 PM
Thanks guys for the info.  I will read the directions.  Usually I only do that when I have parts left over!
Title: Re: 1250 head and ignition advance
Post by: Earl Svorks on February 03, 2016, 07:57:53 PM
Quote from: JMR on January 29, 2016, 02:05:30 PM
The advance isn't 5 degrees....it is on the #5 advance curve which has the slowest total advance curve. Initial timing is probably 35 degrees or so. You might want to try the #2 curve
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Quote from: JMR on January 29, 2016, 02:05:30 PM
The advance isn't 5 degrees....it is on the #5 advance curve which has the slowest total advance curve. Initial timing is probably 35 degrees or so. You might want to try the #2 curve
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  I'm sure you meant to say Total Advance[iof 35 degrees
Title: Re: 1250 head and ignition advance
Post by: JMR on February 04, 2016, 06:54:22 AM
Quote from: Earl Svorks on February 03, 2016, 07:57:53 PM
Quote from: JMR on January 29, 2016, 02:05:30 PM
The advance isn't 5 degrees....it is on the #5 advance curve which has the slowest total advance curve. Initial timing is probably 35 degrees or so. You might want to try the #2 curve
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Quote from: JMR on January 29, 2016, 02:05:30 PM
The advance isn't 5 degrees....it is on the #5 advance curve which has the slowest total advance curve. Initial timing is probably 35 degrees or so. You might want to try the #2 curve
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  I'm sure you meant to say Total Advance[iof 35 degrees
You're right....thanks for pointing that out! Initial is 15 degrees if memory serves me correct.
Title: Re: 1250 head and ignition advance
Post by: Yamahammer1200 on February 05, 2016, 10:49:22 PM
So I read Dyna's instructions and it looks like JMR is correct about setting #2 for the ignition advance.
Can I just switch the knob (with the ignition off), or do I have to change anything in addition to that? 
Ignition timing and electronics are above my pay grade, so any help is appreciated.
Title: Re: 1250 head and ignition advance
Post by: fj1289 on February 06, 2016, 01:09:16 PM
Quote from: Yamahammer1200 on February 05, 2016, 10:49:22 PM
So I read Dyna's instructions and it looks like JMR is correct about setting #2 for the ignition advance.
Can I just switch the knob (with the ignition off), or do I have to change anything in addition to that? 
Ignition timing and electronics are above my pay grade, so any help is appreciated.

Yep - its that simple - just change the setting.  It "loads" the curve setttings and retard setting each time its powered up
Title: Re: 1250 head and ignition advance
Post by: Yamahammer1200 on February 07, 2016, 08:41:54 PM
Well, I switched to position 2 on the Dyna 2000 and it feels like a different machine.
The sweet spot occurs at lower RPMs and feels more linear, less peaky.
The powerband is right where I want it to be.
Hard to explain, easy to feel.
Thanks for the help, you guys are great!
Title: Re: 1250 head and ignition advance
Post by: fj1289 on February 08, 2016, 02:35:37 PM
 :good2: