First of all, happy New Year to everybody and my best wishes!
Hey, go to matter... has anybody tested a YSS shock?. Its not to fit to my FJ, its for my Honda CBX 750. The rear shock collapsed without solution (take a look at my web, CBX suspension section, if you have curiosity to take a look to an air-assisted shock autopsy)
http://www.yssusa.com/ (http://www.yssusa.com/)
Any experiences?
Thanks, guys
Quote from: Alf on January 03, 2016, 10:03:22 AM
First of all, happy New Year to everybody and my best wishes!
Hey, go to matter... has anybody tested a YSS shock?. Its not to fit to my FJ, its for my Honda CBX 750. The rear shock collapsed without solution (take a look at my web, CBX suspension section, if you have curiosity to take a look to an air-assisted shock autopsy)
http://www.yssusa.com/ (http://www.yssusa.com/)
Any experiences?
Thanks, guys
Alf, I have done a lot of research lately and I am zeroing in on a "
Nitron" shock. They will build them to your specs, that is, bike make and model specific and weight, they are adjustable and reviews compare them
favourably with Ohlins but at half the price.
They come from the UK and the exchange rate seems favourable, $1000 delivered to Australia for a tailor made shock, not bad.
According to testimonials, after sales service is also very good.
They do them for the FJ so I guess they could make one for that vintage Honda as well.
Check them out.
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjl_d2gkJDKAhVDx6YKHUfTCmIQFggsMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bikehps.com%2Fnitron%2F&usg=AFQjCNEFtdEAOPJaGQGCy4GdNt0l8LOA0w&sig2=wdYbsScaQegGcihRecwXrQ (https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjl_d2gkJDKAhVDx6YKHUfTCmIQFggsMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bikehps.com%2Fnitron%2F&usg=AFQjCNEFtdEAOPJaGQGCy4GdNt0l8LOA0w&sig2=wdYbsScaQegGcihRecwXrQ)
Noel
I know that there are quite a few of the historic race bikes use YSS shocks.
Rob Phillis's GSX1100 and Katana both use them.
These are twin shock set ups but it shows that they must be decent quality!
The guy that I bought my Hyperpro shocks from, also offered YSS products, and I inquired about their shocks first. However, and for unknown reasons, he said that he didn't use their shocks anymore. Hmm. I went with the Hyperpro then. He said that they also had a larger shock shaft than the YSS'. Not sure what that nets anyways. I've been very happy with the Hyperpro shock.
I did buy the YSS fork valves as a lower cost alternative valve for the FJ forks. They are a definite improvement over the OEM setup, and they should carry ones for your CBX too.
Love the CBX!
Thanks for the feelings
Yesterday I spoke with a suspension repair professional in Madrid. He recommended me YSS because those are better quality than Hagon. And for him, the best shock builder is Wilbers, better than Öhlins: the best materials and manufacturing.
So I will try with YSS at the end. I will inform
Cheers
Alf, what does your shock builder say about Penske shocks?
A good friend of mine worked with YSS to develop a shock for a custom application (late 1000 ninja, Ducati 916 swingarm). My friend was very happy with YSS and the initial performance of the shock seemed promising. My friend was still playing with linkages and YSS was respeccing the shock to suit as the build progressed. Unfortunately my friend passed from complications from Leukemia, and never finished the project.
Based on his experiences and feedback I would consider YSS before many others.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 05, 2016, 12:13:37 PM
Alf, what does your shock builder say about Penske shocks?
Nothing at all, Pat, sorry. Penske is not known in Mainland Spain.
What do you pay for those YSS in Spain?
Should be cheaper than Wilbers - if not, consider Wilbers. I can only agree to your Madrid-connection, installed Wilbers in 5 bikes up to now and I also feel them comparable to Öhlins. They will come with spring acc. to your weight and preferences (Solo, with passenger, luggage...).
The 641 type with external adjustment is about 750,-- € in Germany reg. price, to give you a number.
Cheers Jo
Quote from: jo-sommer on January 07, 2016, 06:07:33 AM
What do you pay for those YSS in Spain?
Should be cheaper than Wilbers - if not, consider Wilbers. I can only agree to your Madrid-connection, installed Wilbers in 5 bikes up to now and I also feel them comparable to Öhlins. They will come with spring acc. to your weight and preferences (Solo, with passenger, luggage...).
The 641 type with external adjustment is about 750,-- € in Germany reg. price, to give you a number.
Cheers Jo
I´ve know that an hydraulic remote preload adjuster is not available from any builder because the shock is very short. So I will have to dissassembly the shock 3 or 4 times to dial the preload. A pain! :dash1: There is no place inside the bike to change the preload with a nut system
Wiilbers are the best shocks, it seems. But in fact living in Canary Island is easyer ordering from China, US and GB than from the EU, including Madrid and Germany!
Finnaly I´ve bought a good price for an YSS shock in GB. 300 euros. Not bad!
I will inform of the quality
300 Euros (325 USD) is a good price. :good:
I have a Hagon rear shock some 5 years with remote hydraulic adjuster and am very happy with its performance and ease of preload. :nyam1:
The problem with the CBX shock is that is only 305 mm. long, so there are no place to fit a remote collar with an appropiatte spring to support the bike weight and without losing progressivity. Nor Nitron, YSS and Wilbers offer hydraulic remote for this shock
My probles with the Hagon shocks are docummented in my web, so I dont want to repeat them
Quote from: Alf on January 07, 2016, 09:08:54 AM
Quote from: jo-sommer on January 07, 2016, 06:07:33 AM
What do you pay for those YSS in Spain?
Should be cheaper than Wilbers - if not, consider Wilbers. I can only agree to your Madrid-connection, installed Wilbers in 5 bikes up to now and I also feel them comparable to Öhlins. They will come with spring acc. to your weight and preferences (Solo, with passenger, luggage...).
The 641 type with external adjustment is about 750,-- € in Germany reg. price, to give you a number.
Cheers Jo
I´ve know that an hydraulic remote preload adjuster is not available from any builder because the shock is very short. So I will have to dissassembly the shock 3 or 4 times to dial the preload. A pain! :dash1: There is no place inside the bike to change the preload with a nut system
Wiilbers are the best shocks, it seems. But in fact living in Canary Island is easyer ordering from China, US and GB than from the EU, including Madrid and Germany!
Finnaly I´ve bought a good price for an YSS shock in GB. 300 euros. Not bad!
I will inform of the quality
Alf, do you have any fresh info on the YSS performance?
Hi
Excellent shock and it come dialed spot-on for my weight and style of riding. In fact, I specified both when ordering, and it is a great positive point, because of the lack of remote preload adjustment do any spring modification a complete dismantling the shock from the bike work, a pain.
Now instead of inappropriate suspension I feel the rear tyre flexing. I've been thinking around a rim change, but my model of CBX is the only one in Spain, so I don't like too much the idea of modifying the original design
I always ride alone in my CBX, so the unavailability of remote preload option is not a big problem, but if not, buy always a shock with that option
The shock is miles better than the air assisted original, and better than a Hagon too
I hope this helps
Regards
I also have a YSS rear shock on my FJ1100.
The build quality and performance is very good (and it is quite cheap).
On the 1100 there is enough room to adjust preload and damping when it is installed.
Quote from: 4everFJ on November 10, 2016, 09:12:08 AM
On the 1100 there is enough room to adjust preload and damping when it is installed.
Thanks for the comment. I will include in my web
Quote from: ribbert on January 04, 2016, 06:08:41 AM
Alf, I have done a lot of research lately and I am zeroing in on a "Nitron" shock. They will build them to your specs, that is, bike make and model specific and weight, they are adjustable and reviews compare them
favourably with Ohlins but at half the price.
They come from the UK and the exchange rate seems favourable, $1000 delivered to Australia for a tailor made shock, not bad.
According to testimonials, after sales service is also very good.
They do them for the FJ so I guess they could make one for that vintage Honda as well.
Check them out.
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjl_d2gkJDKAhVDx6YKHUfTCmIQFggsMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bikehps.com%2Fnitron%2F&usg=AFQjCNEFtdEAOPJaGQGCy4GdNt0l8LOA0w&sig2=wdYbsScaQegGcihRecwXrQ (https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjl_d2gkJDKAhVDx6YKHUfTCmIQFggsMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bikehps.com%2Fnitron%2F&usg=AFQjCNEFtdEAOPJaGQGCy4GdNt0l8LOA0w&sig2=wdYbsScaQegGcihRecwXrQ)
Noel
You going to spend that kind of money, you might as well buy Randy's shock... Really, the only reason I look at other stuff is cost.
YSS shocks seem to be all over eBay, and they do list them for the FJ, even specifically listing different years.
This price is why I'm asking for YSS. https://www.biketeile-service.de/en/frameandsuspension/rearwheelswingarm/shockabsorber/gascharged/standard/yssshockabsorber7890801.html (https://www.biketeile-service.de/en/frameandsuspension/rearwheelswingarm/shockabsorber/gascharged/standard/yssshockabsorber7890801.html)
I understand Randy's trouble to make a perfect shock for FJ. And I would be extremely happy if I would have enough money to buy it. Having 1000$ for shock would probably mean that I have enough money for 3-4 more motorcycles. :good2:
The info that you can adjust the preload on the bike is precious, thank you! :good2:
Ask here about the shock. Excellent service and even cheaper now with the Sterling going down
http://firefoxracing.co.uk/ (http://firefoxracing.co.uk/)
Ask for Adam
The shock will be built to your weight and style of riding. The included option of height adjustment is excellent to up the rear of the bike or, in the future, going to a 17" rim, with less diameter
Regards
Has anyone from Oz bought Randy's shock and, if so, was GST payable on it?
Quote from: krusty on November 11, 2016, 03:58:50 AM
Has anyone from Oz bought Randy's shock and, if so, was GST payable on it?
No GST but make sure you factor in exchange rate and freight.
Noel
Quote from: krusty on November 11, 2016, 03:58:50 AM
Has anyone from Oz bought Randy's shock...?
There have been many sold in Oz.
Here is the review this week from John (Bozo). He was one of the first to purchase from Oz:
RPM Rear shock update (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=16260.0)
Randy - RPM
Quote from: balky1 on November 11, 2016, 01:41:24 AM
The info that you can adjust the preload on the bike is precious, thank you! :good2:
The preload is adjustable on the RPM shock while fitting to the bike as well.
Randy - RPM
Hey all...
About to do a GSXR1100 rear end conversion on my '92 model. Does anyone know if the YSS or the RPM shock are a straight bolt on with this conversion? Keen to replace the shock when i do it so ready to buy!
For the aussies that bought the RPM shock what was the final cost (inc conversion/ shippping etc)
Cheers
The RPM unit is a direct bolt on. Set the preload for proper sag and enjoy.
Quote from: camo on November 11, 2016, 03:04:24 PM
For the aussies that bought the RPM shock what was the final cost (inc conversion/ shippping etc)
Cheers
It will cost you $1400 on your doorstep.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on November 11, 2016, 05:54:06 AM
Quote from: krusty on November 11, 2016, 03:58:50 AM
Has anyone from Oz bought Randy's shock and, if so, was GST payable on it?
No GST but make sure you factor in exchange rate and freight.
Noel
As it's over AU$1000 wasn't there 10% duty/tax to pay on it?
Quote from: krusty on November 11, 2016, 10:17:30 PM
Quote from: ribbert on November 11, 2016, 05:54:06 AM
Quote from: krusty on November 11, 2016, 03:58:50 AM
Has anyone from Oz bought Randy's shock and, if so, was GST payable on it?
No GST but make sure you factor in exchange rate and freight.
Noel
As it's over AU$1000 wasn't there 10% duty/tax to pay on it?
Did that actually get up?
Anyway, it won't apply to the shocker.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on November 13, 2016, 01:34:25 AM
Quote from: krusty on November 11, 2016, 10:17:30 PM
Quote from: ribbert on November 11, 2016, 05:54:06 AM
Quote from: krusty on November 11, 2016, 03:58:50 AM
Has anyone from Oz bought Randy's shock and, if so, was GST payable on it?
No GST but make sure you factor in exchange rate and freight.
Noel
As it's over AU$1000 wasn't there 10% duty/tax to pay on it?
Did that actually get up?
Anyway, it won't apply to the shocker.
Noel
My apologies if this is a hijack. I went looking on the gov website and found this.
Goods with a declared or assessed value of more than AUD1000
If the goods you have imported have a declared or assessed value of more than AUD1000, you will be sent a First Notice by Australia Post advising that you will need to lodge an Import Declaration with us for the goods.
The Import Declaration will be assessed for duty and taxes and an import processing charge will also be applied. After you have lodged your Import Declaration, we will advise you of the amount you need to pay before your goods can be delivered.
Goods with a value over AUD1000 are unable to be to be delivered by Australia Post unless an Import Declaration is made and any duty, taxes and charges owing are paid in full
If you take no action within 30 to 45 days of receiving a First Notice then Australia Post may return the goods to the sender (excluding tobacco and tobacco products).
Quote from: krusty on November 13, 2016, 02:23:13 AM
Goods with a declared or assessed value of more than AUD1000........
Check you PM
Noel