Stock 86 fj1200,what's the widest tire I can run,anyone tried a 160 or 170?
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=14255.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=14255.0)
I think the 150 tire looks to narrow,wider will help the look for me,so avon 160,is availible?
Quote from: Shane4371 on December 28, 2015, 04:34:01 PM
I think the 150 tire looks to narrow,wider will help the look for me,so avon 160,is availible?
Shane, it may look better but FJ riders with 150 wide tires can ride faster than FJs with 180 wide tires, it is the rider, not the tire. This might also help you understand why tire width and rim width either work together, or against.
http://www.sportrider.com/does-size-matter (http://www.sportrider.com/does-size-matter)
I got the Avon Am26 160/80/16,like the wide look.thanks tho,Is a 130/ 80/16 a good match.I hope so cause I'm vested now
Quote from: Shane4371 on December 28, 2015, 07:36:04 PM
I got the Avon Am26 160/80/16,like the wide look.thanks tho,Is a 130/ 80/16 a good match.I hope so cause I'm vested now
For the front, the 120 is already pinched on the 3" wheel. Go gently in the twisties now that you are vested...
Quote from: Shane4371 on December 28, 2015, 07:36:04 PM
I got the Avon Am26 160/80/16,like the wide look.thanks tho,Is a 130/ 80/16 a good match.I hope so cause I'm vested now
Well, as long as it looks good...
To know what width your tyre on your wheel might be , use this.
Width of wheel in inches x 25.4+30 +/_ 10
With the stock wheel this Will be
4.5x 25. 4+30 =144.3 +/_ 10 so can be minimum 135 and maximum 155
FredR,
That's an interesting formula, but to quote a phrase I learned back when I took my first programming class, in 1967, "GIGO"
In case you missed that acronym translation, it stands for Garbage In, Garbage Out. :-)
In this particular case, the OEM stock rear wheel is 3.5 inches wide, not 4.5 in.
So, plugging the correct rim size into your formula you get 118.9 +/- 10 giving you a 110-130 width tire.
That formula may have been a good general guide back when tires were 100 or 90 aspect ratio, but it just doesn't apply now. Go by the tire or bike maker's recommendation (or maybe vary by one size)
Arnie
Quote from: Fred R on December 29, 2015, 01:03:32 AM
To know what width your tyre on your wheel might be , use this.
Width of wheel in inches x 25.4+30 +/_ 10
With the stock wheel this Will be
4.5x 25. 4+30 =144.3 +/_ 10 so can be minimum 135 and maximum 155
I dont see going one step wider is a issue.I don't drag my knees around corners. I like the extra tire to pavement.just wanted to know if going one step wider would cause any issues.thanks for the input
Shane, I think you got this upside-down. If you want more rubber on the road, go with a 140. Narrower tire will be opened up more than a 160, putting more rubber down. FYI, I run a 5" wheel with a 170/60x17 tire. Plenty of rubber down there, until I go to a 5.5" wheel & 180 tire.
Ed
Quote from: Arnie on December 29, 2015, 07:29:15 AM
FredR,
That's an interesting formula, but to quote a phrase I learned back when I took my first programming class, in 1967, "GIGO"
In case you missed that acronym translation, it stands for Garbage In, Garbage Out. :-)
In this particular case, the OEM stock rear wheel is 3.5 inches wide, not 4.5 in.
So, plugging the correct rim size into your formula you get 118.9 +/- 10 giving you a 110-130 width tire.
That formula may have been a good general guide back when tires were 100 or 90 aspect ratio, but it just doesn't apply now. Go by the tire or bike maker's recommendation (or maybe vary by one size)
Arnie
Quote from: Fred R on December 29, 2015, 01:03:32 AM
To know what width your tyre on your wheel might be , use this.
Width of wheel in inches x 25.4+30 +/_ 10
With the stock wheel this Will be
4.5x 25. 4+30 =144.3 +/_ 10 so can be minimum 135 and maximum 155
You are right there, the fj wheel is indeed very small
ive used this with every 17 inch wheel in the past and there it ads up
for if the tyres are to wide they will act like some sort of balloon and will not act rigid
There is of course a far less scientific and far more conclusive method than all these charts and theories....seat of the pants!
According to many, I run "pinched" oversize tyres on my bike. 180/5" on the back and 120/3" on the front.
This theoretically gives me less rubber on the road, tyre I can't use and heavy/slow steering.
I have RPM suspension F&R and the back raised.
The bike is now taller in the corners, and as a consequence, leans over further making the contact point higher on the fairing and other things, as evidenced by the photo below (It used to scrape towards the bottom of that flat section).
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5714/23053523489_73dc5b7f49_c.jpg)
Even at these angles, but most of the time a bit less than that, I can hit the throttle.
Tyres only have one job, to maintain grip with the road, how much more grip do you need?
As for steering, the change in geometry makes it light turning in and even changing line mid corner effortless, it is nearer to the BMW than it is to a stock FJ.
The downside to "too big" tyres? None that I can see.
The downside to smaller tyres? None I know of.
Am I likely to outride the tyres on my FJ anyway? Not if you have reasonable to good tyres.
Am I going to crash because I didn't follow the fitment chart exactly? No.
Will my bike handle like a rubber cow because I went one size up? No.
Are there lots of members running bigger tyres without issue? Yes.
Are there lots of members running smaller tyres without issue? yes.
Does it really matter? No.
Why am I the only one silly enough to write about it? I don't know, where's "Empirical Man" when you need him?
Noel
I like you thinking Noel. Does it really matter as long as you're comfortable with what you have under you.
Mark
Friends like how the bike has came along, but everyone is. Commenting on the skinny rear tire.I agree its skinny I cruise mostly.plus ride with my wife.their has to be a upside to wider.