http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/12/15/recall-roster-all-2015-yamaha-yzf-r1-sportbike-motorcycles-gearbox-issue/ (http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/12/15/recall-roster-all-2015-yamaha-yzf-r1-sportbike-motorcycles-gearbox-issue/)
Sounds like it could be some serious trouble especially when Yamaha recommends not riding to the dealer for the fix. Doubt whether I would flog one hard enough to have this happen. Still more comfortable on the ol' FJ. Dave
Must have happened on a number of R1's to cause the recall . A locked rear wheel is some spooky shit at speed.
You'd think that, after all these years, Yamaha would've learned to build a transmission that was worth a damn. :pardon:
This effort, both on bikes sold and all the bikes in inventory, will be a very expensive fix for Yamaha.
I wonder how many bikes are affected?
Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 19, 2015, 11:33:48 AM
This effort, both on bikes sold and all the bikes in inventory, will be a very expensive fix for Yamaha.
I wonder how many bikes are affected?
The article I read estimated a minimum of $2k USD per bike, and would likely total enough to completely wipe out any 2015 R1 profits, but number of affected units was not given.
When it rains, it pours...
So, while your new R-1 is at the dealer getting a new tranny, they can take care of this:
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/yamaha-r1-and-r1ms-recalled-over-fire-risk/30614.html (http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/yamaha-r1-and-r1ms-recalled-over-fire-risk/30614.html)
Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 21, 2015, 10:35:23 AM
When it rains, it pours...
So, while your new R-1 is at the dealer getting a new tranny, they can take care of this:
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/yamaha-r1-and-r1ms-recalled-over-fire-risk/30614.html (http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/yamaha-r1-and-r1ms-recalled-over-fire-risk/30614.html)
Too late to buy stock in Honda?
Ive a 1st year 98 R1 and it has 3 recall stickers on the neck.
I don't recall what they were off the top of my head but 1 was a clutch hub issue which if failed could lock the wheels up.
Also a few had 2nd gear issues from being flogged. I'd have thought Yamaha would have all this stuff down pat by now.
This is major bad news, I wonder where the fingers will be pointing, the supplier who makes the gears or the heat treatment process of said gears or the raw stock said gears where cut from, I am very curious as to where the faults lie. As my dad always said, 2nd gear is usually the first to go! :bomb:
I would bet at least 25% of the new R-1's sold have seen some kind of track duty. This severe use is good for the consumer in flushing out bugs. Accelerated wear from track duty improves the breed.
I recall back in '84 when I bought my FJ, it took about 6 months (Jan.'85) for the second gear issue to become widely known. The production endurance race teams first reported the problem. My '84's second gear didn't take a dump until summer of '86, way outside of warranty.
From the time Yamaha became aware of the FJ second gear problem, it took about 3 more years before they came out with stronger shifting forks. Yamaha was not in a hurry because the FJ was no longer competitive on the track. The street riders could wait....not so with the racers.
If Yamaha expects the YZF R-1 to be competitive, they must move fast to fix the problem now.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 22, 2015, 12:08:04 AM
I would bet at least 25% of the new R-1's sold have seen some kind of track duty. This severe use is good for the consumer in flushing out bugs. Accelerated wear from track duty improves the breed.
I recall back in '84 when I bought my FJ, it took about 6 months (Jan.'85) for the second gear issue to become widely known. The production endurance race teams first reported the problem. My '84's second gear didn't take a dump until summer of '86, way outside of warranty.
From the time Yamaha became aware of the FJ second gear problem, it took about 3 more years before they came out with stronger shifting forks. Yamaha was not in a hurry because the FJ was no longer competitive on the track. The street riders could wait....not so with the racers.
If Yamaha expects the YZF R-1 to be competitive, they must move fast to fix the problem now.
Very interesting facts there Pat, I go easy on my ITX untill second gear is over then its boiler time on nine so to speak! I was 17 in 84 and the FJ and ZX900A and even the V65 Magna's were only wet dreams. I very much enjoy the facts and knowledge from you gentlemen, the FJ knowhow is just the huge bonus on this site! Don
Thanks Don, I can relate...
I remember being 16 in 1969 and looking at that fantastic, futuristic, mind blowing Honda CB750. The earth shifted on it's axis.
I remember thinking how is that new fangled Frisbee looking front brake gonna stop that bike? No way.