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Title: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: ezunix on August 31, 2015, 06:24:19 PM
Hi guys.

I've been googling but I can't really find a detailed howto.
When doing the GSXR 5,5" rim conversion. Will I only need a new rim or will I also need everything else that comes with a GSXR wheel (spacers, sprocket, rear disc and break calliper) ?
If I'll need all of that, will it require some modifications to install them on my JF1100 ?
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: great white on August 31, 2015, 07:04:29 PM
I'm using a ZX7 wheel but the principle is the same.

Best to find a parts bike and grab everything that's on the axle:

Wheel, sprocket drive, axle, spacers, brake caliper bracket, brake caliper, tension arm, etc.

I did the same thing with my ZX& wheel: if it was on the axle, I took it. Any Additional spacers I need I'll just make on the lathe.

My understanding for the suzi wheel conversion is all you need (in addition to above listed) is a couple washers on either side to take up some space.

Chuck "gsxr rear wheel" in the site search and lots of hits will show up on how to do it.
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: movenon on August 31, 2015, 07:06:20 PM
This might help.  It is in the Files section under Supension.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3380.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3380.0)

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2465.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2465.0) This will work but follow the instructions to the letter.  Open the PDF file.

George
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: Urban_Legend on August 31, 2015, 08:25:10 PM
Hi The question has been answered many times on this site, BUT as i only did this conversion 2 weeks ago I though i would share.
1) you will need everything what comes with the wheel - spacers calliper hanger, calliper and brake line would help too.
2) you will also need 2 4mm spacers with a 17mm diameter hole for on each side of the existing GSXR spacers.
3) you will need to get a tab welded to the underside of the swing arm (or another appropriate mounting point depending on the lenght of the torque arm)to conect the GSXR brake torque arm too.
4) you will also probably need to get an aftermarket rear sproket for the GSXR wheel, as i thing the smallest standard one is 43 tooth.

Other than that it is pretty straight forward.

Edit. After about 96 Suzuki changed the axle size, so you will want one from about 89 - 96 (Post 92 went to a straight spoke design)

Mark
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: FJmonkey on August 31, 2015, 08:35:27 PM
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Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: ezunix on September 07, 2015, 05:09:58 PM
Thanks a lot guys!
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: ezunix on September 07, 2015, 07:20:23 PM
Would it be possible (and would it make sense) to use 18/38 sprocket combination with this rim?
If so, what sprockets would one use?
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: FJmonkey on September 07, 2015, 07:24:27 PM
Quote from: ezunix on September 07, 2015, 07:20:23 PM
Would it be possible (and would it make sense) to use 18/38 sprocket combination with this rim?
Is so, what sprockets would one use?

I have been running that ratio for the last 3 years and I like it for my touring FJ....
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: ezunix on September 07, 2015, 07:26:22 PM
And you have GSXR front rim?
Where did you buy the sprockets, for what bike?
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: FJmonkey on September 07, 2015, 07:30:59 PM
Quote from: ezunix on September 07, 2015, 07:26:22 PM
And you have GSXR front rim?
Where did you buy the sprockets, for what bike?
Just the rear.

I got my rear sprocket from this old shop.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/johnson-and-wood-north-hollywood (http://www.yelp.com/biz/johnson-and-wood-north-hollywood)
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: markmartin on September 07, 2015, 08:55:25 PM
Randy at RPM usually has the 18 in stock and can get the 38 rear for the GSXR.  The part number for a 1990 GSXR rear wheel sprocket is JTR816.38 
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: ezunix on September 07, 2015, 09:21:59 PM
I'm sorry, I ment rear.

Can I use Suzuki GSXR 750 sprockets (same as the rear rim) - 38 and 18 for a 50/530 type of chain?
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: FJmonkey on September 07, 2015, 09:32:16 PM
Quote from: ezunix on September 07, 2015, 09:21:59 PM
I'm sorry, I ment rear.

Can I use Suzuki GSXR 750 sprockets (same as the rear rim) - 38 and 18 for a 50/530 type of chain?

You will need to use a sprocket that fits the GSXR rear wheel, have the proper offset to line up the front to the rear, and have the ratio (number of teeth front and rear to suit your needs). I am using an "off the shelf" 18T front and a custom (less then OEM) to get 38T on the rear.
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: ezunix on September 08, 2015, 01:38:28 AM
So GSXR 750 front sprocket won't fit FJ1100 ? The sprocket is suppose to feat 50/530 FJ1100 chain.
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: Arnie on September 08, 2015, 03:01:39 AM
Quote from: ezunix on September 08, 2015, 01:38:28 AM
So GSXR 750 front sprocket won't fit FJ1100 ? The sprocket is suppose to feat 50/530 FJ1100 chain.

The teeth may fit the chain, but the problem you'll have is the splines on the FJ output shaft will not fit the hole in the sprocket.
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: ezunix on September 08, 2015, 04:45:28 AM
All right. Then GSXR rear and FJ front sprockets.
It takes ages to find all the parts for my bike
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: movenon on September 08, 2015, 04:56:48 AM
Here this might help. It is the JT catalog.  http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue (http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue)  You can look up any bike mfg and model and it will give you the spec's (chain size, off set, spine pattern for the front sprocket etc,).  I run a 1993 GSXR 38t rear sprocket, fits 530 chain. The GSXR 1100 uses a 525 chain so you need or should use a 750 GSXR rear sprocket but use the JT catalog to double check the sprocket spec's because they made many models of the GSXR world wide.

JT sprockets are widely available from any dealer plus on e bay. Get the steel sprockets. 18/38 or 17/38 works fine. 110 link chain will fit. My chain came standard in the box with 120 links, had to remove 10 links.
George
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: ezunix on September 08, 2015, 06:14:39 AM
Thanks. Unfortunately they don't list any 18 sprockets: http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/sprocket/JTF579-18 (http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/sprocket/JTF579-18)
You say 17/38 works fine. That way I can keep my original front sprocket.
But I swear I read somewhere on the forum that you need to go up 1 tooth on front sprockets for every 2 on the back sprocket...
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: movenon on September 08, 2015, 07:10:53 AM
Details, details 17t is standard, click the 18t and it will give you part number "JTF579.18"  "JTF579.17" is the 17t FJ sprocket.  Contact JT and they can tell you the availability.

Also check this http://www.ebay.com/itm/PBI-530-Steel-Front-Sprocket-18T-Natural-777-18-/221810585921?hash=item33a4f0f141&vxp=mtr#vi-ilComp (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PBI-530-Steel-Front-Sprocket-18T-Natural-777-18-/221810585921?hash=item33a4f0f141&vxp=mtr#vi-ilComp)

Not to confuse the issue this will work also (it is what I use, except I run 17t now).  You will have to machine/grind off one of the boss's.  It provides a better chain alignment for me.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jt-Sprocket-18-Tooth-JTF339-18-Street-Drive-Sprockets-/391250082054?hash=item5b18527906&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jt-Sprocket-18-Tooth-JTF339-18-Street-Drive-Sprockets-/391250082054?hash=item5b18527906&vxp=mtr).

On the final ratio 17 or 18 is a personal choice.  For me the 18/38 was a bit high. But was the difference a lot ? No.  Both are fine. The front sprockets are easy to change (if you have to correct socket) and not that expensive. And both will adjust fine with your 110 link chain.
George
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: racerrad8 on September 08, 2015, 07:31:48 AM
Or as Mark already said earlier in the thread, RPM has 18t sprockets in stock.

I will also have the rear sprocket Mark has mentioned in stock this week.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: ezunix on September 08, 2015, 08:48:21 AM
Thanks guys, you rock! I'm a happy camper. I found JT sprocket in European shop.
Looks like R1 '98-13 uses exactly the same front sprocket.


Quote from: racerrad8 on September 08, 2015, 07:31:48 AM
Or as Mark already said earlier in the thread, RPM has 18t sprockets in stock.

I will also have the rear sprocket Mark has mentioned in stock this week.

Randy - RPM

Thanks Randy. Unfortunately I have to pass, I could buy a few of them just for the shipping costs from USA to Europe. :(
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: racerrad8 on September 08, 2015, 10:27:24 AM
Must be a smoking deal if you can buy a couple of them for the price of shipping, as shipping is currently only 17 USD for the sprocket from here to Oslo, Norway.

Robert - RPM
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: ezunix on September 08, 2015, 05:19:27 PM
I paid 17 bucks for a new 18 teeth JT Sprockets - sprocket incl. shipment.
Title: Re: GSXR 5,5" rim conversion.
Post by: ezunix on September 14, 2015, 06:44:53 AM
BTW, I bought back brake rotor for GSX-R 600,750, 1000 - K6, K7, L1, L3 from 2011 and it fits the GSXR 750 90-95 rim perfectly.