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Title: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: FJools on August 20, 2015, 06:35:01 PM
Does anyone know where i can find a copy of the OEM Yamaha Service Manual for a 92 FJ1200 3XW - or pdf even?

I have seen the Japanese versions but haven't had any luck in tracking down an original paper copy in English anywhere.
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: axiom-r on August 20, 2015, 07:17:42 PM
I would also like to have a digital factory service manual.....

tim
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: Pat Conlon on August 20, 2015, 09:16:16 PM
Here ya go guys... http://www.fj1100.com/fjman.htm (http://www.fj1100.com/fjman.htm)
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: 4everFJ on August 21, 2015, 02:23:10 AM
You can also get lucky on ebay.

Just bought this one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/161792278268?euid=0d746150564e4388a2ea452183d63487&cp=1 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/161792278268?euid=0d746150564e4388a2ea452183d63487&cp=1)
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: A11an0n on August 21, 2015, 07:12:33 AM
You can get it online in pdf here for free ....

http://www.yamahaownershandbook.com.au/?r=0 (http://www.yamahaownershandbook.com.au/?r=0)
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: great white on August 21, 2015, 07:30:41 AM
Quote from: A11an0n on August 21, 2015, 07:12:33 AM
You can get it online in pdf here for free ....

http://www.yamahaownershandbook.com.au/?r=0 (http://www.yamahaownershandbook.com.au/?r=0)


The Op is looking for a service manual.

Unless something has changed, Yammy doesn't put those up for download.

Owners manuals yes. Service manuals not so much...... :hi:
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: CutterBill on August 21, 2015, 07:34:08 AM
You can get a paper copy of the Factory Service Manual from your local dealer.  That's where I got mine...
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: FJools on August 21, 2015, 04:05:53 PM
The reason I was after a full on paper copy is my experience with printed pdf (I'm old fashioned!) is that they don't stay in good shape in a ring binder for long, and none of the other binding methods I tried are that good

Over the years I have managed to replace most of my other bound pdf copies with OEM manuals which are top drawer. The last one was for a 1991 TZ250B 3YL, they only built that bike for 1 year. Unusually for yamaha its a total different animal to the following 4DP version from 1992 in many crucial areas.

It must be a 3XW 1200 version too.

Still, I'll keep looking and maybe get a jap one for now.
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: mr blackstock on August 21, 2015, 04:09:19 PM
G'day,

Have you tried the files section?  I uploaded a few "service" manuals ages ago, but they are not workshop manuals.

Usually it takes around 4 hours to find a downloadable manual on the net.

Good luck,

Cheers, Gareth
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: great white on August 21, 2015, 05:25:10 PM
Second hit on google:

http://www.fjclub.dk/litteratur/FJ1200-OM-Engelsk.pdf (http://www.fjclub.dk/litteratur/FJ1200-OM-Engelsk.pdf)

It's not a paper copy, but it's free for downloading.

I've got an old iPad 2 that sits in the garage. It's got a cracked screen, but it still works fine.

It holds all my manuals, my calculators, converters, etc...
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: FJools on August 23, 2015, 05:49:13 PM
I have been thinking of going down that path with an old laptop of my daughters, but as soon as I get it working properly she nicks it back.....!!

I do have an old Lenovo that I am trying to reformat after I format the entire hard disk unaware it contained a partition with the OEM OS install files.
Now I'm having the devils problem of trying to install any OS on it.
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: JMR on August 23, 2015, 07:23:59 PM
 Factory Yamaha service manuals are crap compared to Honda and even Suzuki and Kawasaki. I love the lack of clearance #'s on connecting rod and crankshaft bearings. No journal OD #'s either. Just an example. A suck manual.......Thay are crap in general.
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: 4everFJ on August 24, 2015, 09:48:46 AM
Quote from: JMR on August 23, 2015, 07:23:59 PM
Factory Yamaha service manuals are crap compared to Honda and even Suzuki and Kawasaki. I love the lack of clearance #'s on connecting rod and crankshaft bearings. No journal OD #'s either. Just an example. A suck manual.......Thay are crap in general.

The factory service manual for the FJ1100 does provide all measurements, including the ones you mention  :yes:
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: FJools on August 24, 2015, 04:18:21 PM
Quote from: 4everFJ on August 24, 2015, 09:48:46 AM
Quote from: JMR on August 23, 2015, 07:23:59 PM
Factory Yamaha service manuals are crap compared to Honda and even Suzuki and Kawasaki. I love the lack of clearance #'s on connecting rod and crankshaft bearings. No journal OD #'s either. Just an example. A suck manual.......Thay are crap in general.

The factory service manual for the FJ1100 does provide all measurements, including the ones you mention  :yes:

Thats what I have found too, I rebuild crankshafts to the specs & tolerances in there...................??
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: great white on August 24, 2015, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: 4everFJ on August 24, 2015, 09:48:46 AM
Quote from: JMR on August 23, 2015, 07:23:59 PM
Factory Yamaha service manuals are crap compared to Honda and even Suzuki and Kawasaki. I love the lack of clearance #'s on connecting rod and crankshaft bearings. No journal OD #'s either. Just an example. A suck manual.......Thay are crap in general.

The factory service manual for the FJ1100 does provide all measurements, including the ones you mention  :yes:

I wasn't going to get in to it, but I'll just throw this out:

+1

:sarcastic:
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: FJools on August 28, 2015, 12:17:12 AM
managed to find the one I was after on the other side of the pond. Not cheap but at 500 pages should provide an interesting read..................... :good2:
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: JMR on August 29, 2015, 08:04:12 AM
Quote from: 4everFJ on August 24, 2015, 09:48:46 AM
Quote from: JMR on August 23, 2015, 07:23:59 PM
Factory Yamaha service manuals are crap compared to Honda and even Suzuki and Kawasaki. I love the lack of clearance #'s on connecting rod and crankshaft bearings. No journal OD #'s either. Just an example. A suck manual.......Thay are crap in general.

The factory service manual for the FJ1100 does provide all measurements, including the ones you mention  :yes:
I have the factory service manual for the FJ1100 and the the FJ1200 supplement (both bought in 1987). It does not list bearing shell thickness, crank journal OD or connecting rod big end ID. It tells you to look at the stamped case numbers and crank numbers for proper bearings (pages 3-33 and 3-34). Funny how the manual lists .0063 to .0101in for rod bearing clearance. Try that and let me know how you make out. :sarcastic: It only tells you to Plastigage....I prefer to actually measure.
Even pages 7-6 and 7-7 do not list actual crank journal OD etc. Actual clearance for connecting rods and mains is pretty standard knowledge.....I just like to have factory #'s for journals and bearing thickness. Even my CB750 factory manual written in 1969 has them. :biggrin:
Maybe you fellas have a different version of the factory in Europe and Australia.
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: 4everFJ on August 29, 2015, 08:52:37 AM
Quote from: JMR on August 29, 2015, 08:04:12 AM
Quote from: 4everFJ on August 24, 2015, 09:48:46 AM
Quote from: JMR on August 23, 2015, 07:23:59 PM
Factory Yamaha service manuals are crap compared to Honda and even Suzuki and Kawasaki. I love the lack of clearance #'s on connecting rod and crankshaft bearings. No journal OD #'s either. Just an example. A suck manual.......Thay are crap in general.

The factory service manual for the FJ1100 does provide all measurements, including the ones you mention  :yes:
I have the factory service manual for the FJ1100 and the the FJ1200 supplement (both bought in 1987). It does not list bearing shell thickness, crank journal OD or connecting rod big end ID. It tells you to look at the stamped case numbers and crank numbers for proper bearings (pages 3-33 and 3-34). Funny how the manual lists .0063 to .0101in for rod bearing clearance. Try that and let me know how you make out. :sarcastic: It only tells you to Plastigage....I prefer to actually measure.
Even pages 7-6 and 7-7 do not list actual crank journal OD etc. Actual clearance for connecting rods and mains is pretty standard knowledge.....I just like to have factory #'s for journals and bearing thickness. Even my CB750 factory manual written in 1969 has them. :biggrin:
Maybe you fellas have a different version of the factory in Europe and Australia.

Yeah, then they must be different.

Page 3-33 and 3-34 in mine is about valve seat inspection and limits.

The Yamaha part no. of my manual is 36Y-28187-81.
Title: Re: OEM Yamaha Manuals
Post by: FJools on August 30, 2015, 10:29:19 PM
My search for one of these manuals highlighted that there quite a few different oEM versions and supplements available. The Japanese ones look as different again from the cover and the part numbering seems to vary considerably too.

The aftermarket manuals must have got their data & specs from somewhere....................??