G'day fellas,
I like to offer my shed and house, in Nowra NSW, as a venue for a South Coast Manshed day.
To give everyone who wants to come time to plan, I'm suggesting the 27th of November as the date. I'm making this a two night affair, so starting on the Friday and ending on the Sunday.
I have two spare double beds for sleep overs, and a couple of air mattresses. The nearest pub with accommodation is the Archers "Resort" (some say last resort). They have affair amount of rooms. Glenn Henry's partner has a B&B called 'The Pines', and Glenn will be along as well.
We also have plenty of space for anyone wishing to camp.
Just finished a firepit, so a campfire should be ok unless there is a total fire ban.
The pool is heated, so a relaxing splash is also available for anyone.
We should be able to work on half a dozen bikes in the shed at the same time, plus room for as many as we need in the open.
As I've recently returned to the FJ scene, I'm pretty light on tools, just some basics, welder, drill press, sledge hammer, compressor, grinders, but no specific FJ items like shim tools, or carbie tools.
There is a mob up the road with a pretty good dyno, and we can arrange a Saturday arvo 'Dyno run'. This would be $90 each, but they do give good info for those wishing to do that final bit of
tuning. Each run takes 20-30 minutes with report.
The weather that time of year is ok with cool nights and reasonable days. I've enough undercover to keep everyone dry if the rain tries to bugger up the event. Plus a few items to entertain large kids.
All are welcome. The more he merrier! :drinks:
Looking at the calendar and crunching the numbers. I will put a maybe...... But looking good...
Cheers.
Sounds like it would be a good trip. Put me down as a maybe as well please. It will depend on work commitments.
Mark
Count me in Troy. Alf's on his way home from Cairns so I'll ask him when he returns. Pete may also be a starter, I'll ask him ASAP.
I've got a bag full of valve shims, appropriate tool to hold valves down, carb balancing gauges and a truck load of sockets, spanners and anything else required to work on FJ's.
I'll bring my camping gear and camp in the backyard if this suits you. Looking forward to it. Can't wait already.
We are riding the Vic high country for 6 days, 2 weeks before the Manshed date so I'll be full of information about the proposed 2015 Victorian High Country FJ Rally.
Regards, Pete. :good2: :drinks:
mmmmm....The Great Southern Alps by tha sea! Heated Pool! A campfire!...Workshop AND FJ mates!.......I wouldn`t miss this one for the world!
What a great excuse for a start of summer Roadie!
I bags booking tha first double bed under roof, nearest the campfire if that`s okay.....And and and I don`t mind sharing it with either Ribbert, Baldy or Klavdy! (If they don`t turn up of course, I guess I`ll just have it all to meself! Heeehehe!) :drinks:
Hmmmm, Nowra. I'll give a big PROBABLY at this point.
I have to spend some time figuring out a reasonable route that
doesn't involve either the Princes or Hume boreways.
Arnie
G'day all, I might have to kill some staff here at the Bakery to make it to Nowra.
Although now that I've thought about it, if I killed them I'd have to do their work.
Perhaps I could Sweet Talk them :praising: to sacrifice some of their leave around that time for my mental well being.
I'll have a real good think about it, so put me down as a maybe please.
Be Good
Macca
Excellent Troy!
This sounds doable. Time off is not my problem, locking in exact days is. However I will set the wheels in motion nearer the time and do my best.
I'm going to Byron next month and maybe Tassie later on. Shaping up to be a good year for riding.
Don't worry about tools, I'll be carrying enough bottles of red to fix anything. Hell, enough of that and you can remove shims with your bare hands and measure clearances by eye.
I see you have a sledge hammer and angle grinders, that should cover most of it.
Mighty generous of you to throw open your house for a Manshed day for the FJ crew. You obviously haven't met any of them in the flesh, there's a reason it's never at the same place twice.
I see there's a positive response from we Southerners. This is good, it will lend some class to the event. :biggrin:
The camaraderie amongst FJer's is legendary although I am yet to experience it on any scale having only met two members, I hope that changes at your manshed day.
Thanks again for the offer, I'm looking forward to it, it's already in the diary.
Noel
Quote from: Arnie on July 08, 2015, 10:54:42 PM
Hmmmm, Nowra. I'll give a big PROBABLY at this point.
I have to spend some time figuring out a reasonable route that
doesn't involve either the Princes or Hume boreways.
Arnie
I've already done one Arnie.
It will be November so I planned a route roughly between the two, passing through Jindabyne and the Snowys.
Any way other than the Hume is 2 days so might as well make it a great 2 days. Lots of daylight by then.
Noel
I was thinking mmm sounds good. Then I looked up how far south Nowra is...........
Noel, heading to Byron next month? By Bike or Plane?
Quote from: X-Ray on July 09, 2015, 09:17:06 AM
I was thinking mmm sounds good. Then I looked up how far south Nowra is...........
Noel, heading to Byron next month? By Bike or Plane?
Bike.
Noel
Quote from: X-Ray on July 09, 2015, 09:17:06 AM
I was thinking mmm sounds good. Then I looked up how far south Nowra is...........
Noel, heading to Byron next month? By Bike or Plane?
Ray, Nowra is only a hop, skip and jump past Wollongong mate...... we did that run in a day for the Jindabyne rally so its not too bad.
Harvy
Quite right Harv, will have to see how the dates pan out.
If you are in Byron Bay for a few days Noel there may be a couple/few of us that would love a quick sprint down to say hello, :good2:
Quote from: ribbert on July 09, 2015, 10:37:48 AM
Quote from: X-Ray on July 09, 2015, 09:17:06 AM
I was thinking mmm sounds good. Then I looked up how far south Nowra is...........
Noel, heading to Byron next month? By Bike or Plane?
Bike.
Noel
No doubt your FJ would look Splendid on The Grass, though can`t picture you on it!....I like Bungalow better! :drinks:
Quote from: The General on July 10, 2015, 01:21:24 PM
Quote from: ribbert on July 09, 2015, 10:37:48 AM
Quote from: X-Ray on July 09, 2015, 09:17:06 AM
I was thinking mmm sounds good. Then I looked up how far south Nowra is...........
Noel, heading to Byron next month? By Bike or Plane?
Bike.
Noel
No doubt your FJ would look Splendid on The Grass, though can`t picture you on it!....I like Bungalow better! :drinks:
Ha ha, very good Doug, no flies on you!
Noel
Quote from: X-Ray on July 09, 2015, 08:07:49 PM
Quite right Harv, will have to see how the dates pan out.
If you are in Byron Bay for a few days Noel there may be a couple/few of us that would love a quick sprint down to say hello, :good2:
That would be cool Ray, in fact it would be excellent.
My brother is going to an event up there and I was just going for the ride, stay the night and turn around and go home again.
However, it must have been the 30th of June when he loosely mentioned "next month". It turns out he's leaving 8 days from now (which I only found out tonight) and that is probably cutting it too fine for me on that sort of notice anyway.
I might just ride the first day or so with him, depends which way he's going. Then again, the only good roads North from here aren't suitable this time of the year so maybe I won't.
If I get a lucky break from work, I'll let you know.
Noel
Back in Australia fellas. Any questions on accom etc. let me know. I'm going to clean out the shed some so we can have some more room. I'm starting now as it might take a while :biggrin:.
Troy
Quote from: Troyskie on July 17, 2015, 05:08:20 PM
Back in Australia fellas. Any questions on accom etc. let me know. I'm going to clean out the shed some so we can have some more room. I'm starting now as it might take a while :biggrin:.
Troy
Good ta hear Troy. I`ve got on a beanie and an electric throw over rug by the telley at the moment, so will be hankering for the first summer ride I can tell ya.
Looks like I`ll have room for two more bikes on the trailer. Can pick up and drop off any bike between Sunshine Coast and Bermagui, (they don`t have ta be in running order!), along with their owners....just PM me.
Given Glenn Henry (http://www.glennhenrymotorcycles.com.au/ (http://www.glennhenrymotorcycles.com.au/)) and Noel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxqaI_c9j_g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxqaI_c9j_g)) along with Pete and his mates (https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=thugs+get+lonely+too (https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=thugs+get+lonely+too)), are already planning to be there, it promises to be an enlightening campfire!
:drinks:
Quote from: Tony Mac on July 09, 2015, 02:21:23 AM
G'day all, I might have to kill some staff here at the Bakery to make it to Nowra.
Although now that I've thought about it, if I killed them I'd have to do their work.
Perhaps I could Sweet Talk them :praising: to sacrifice some of their leave around that time for my mental well being.
I'll have a real good think about it, so put me down as a maybe please.
Be Good
Macca
Things are looking up. :yahoo:
Staff are seeing things my way. :empathy:
I might even be able to bring some Pies for lunch on Saturday.
How big is your oven Troy?
Im in sounds like great weekend :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: Tony L
Quote from: Tony Mac on July 20, 2015, 02:11:48 AM
Things are looking up. :yahoo:
Staff are seeing things my way. :empathy:
I might even be able to bring some Pies for lunch on Saturday.
How big is your oven Troy?
Tony, give me a yell if you're passing past here on your way to Nowra. If you need a bed for the night let me know.
Regards, Pete. :drinks:
Quote from: The General on July 17, 2015, 07:25:53 PM
...... and Noel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxqaI_c9j_g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxqaI_c9j_g))
:drinks:
Very good Doug.
I know what you're doing, keep chipping away, I think it's working. :biggrin:
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on July 20, 2015, 06:57:19 AM
Quote from: The General on July 17, 2015, 07:25:53 PM
...... and Noel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxqaI_c9j_g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxqaI_c9j_g))
:drinks:
Very good Doug.
I know what you're doing, keep chipping away, I think it's working. :biggrin:
Noel
:rofl2: :rofl2: (popcorn)
Manshed experiments....
I've watched with interest a couple of threads here, plus some youtube vids, about 'home grown' electrolysis and nickel/zinc electroplating.
I've a rusty tank that could be salvaged if properly fixed up. I'm also optimistic enough to think it could work for me.
Anyone up for some mad-scientist shed fun on the Manshed day (some of the vids mention risk of explosion,...that would be extra cool!)?
Troyskie.
Quote from: Troyskie on July 22, 2015, 04:08:08 PM
Manshed experiments....
I've watched with interest a couple of threads here, plus some youtube vids, about 'home grown' electrolysis and nickel/zinc electroplating.
I've a rusty tank that could be salvaged if properly fixed up. I'm also optimistic enough to think it could work for me.
Anyone up for some mad-scientist shed fun on the Manshed day (some of the vids mention risk of explosion,...that would be extra cool!)?
Troyskie.
Mate, great idea and yep I`ve seen it work on tanks and using home kits on bolts & even springs to get that gold look. Not sure that the FJ crew I`ve met are mad scientists but 100% of them qualify for 50% of the title!
I`ve been working on a more permanent water pistol to be front mounted on the sidecar, but having a prob fitting the high pressure container (old gas bottle) and associated explosion risk. ....We can work on both projects at the same time! .......extra, extra Cool! (I`ll bring that spare 87 ambulance tank with me just in case yours ends up in orbit). :drinks:
Quote from: Troyskie on July 22, 2015, 04:08:08 PM
Manshed experiments....
Anyone up for some mad-scientist shed fun on the Manshed day (some of the vids mention risk of explosion,...that would be extra cool!)?
Troyskie.
Troy, this raises the bar for Manshed Day to a whole new level.
(http://cdn.instructables.com/FBF/8WUB/GUR6ILMT/FBF8WUBGUR6ILMT.LARGE.jpg)
I'll watch from the street so there's someone to tell the police what happened. :biggrin:
Sounds like fun, I'm looking forward to it.
Noel
Dyno run....
I've a few us (me included) have booked for the Dyno run already. I'm going to try for a bulk discount.
Do we have any further takers?
Each test takes 20-30 min with print-out.
I'm thinking (yes I've been told to cut that out before) we should aim for a mid morning Saturday Dyno run & BBQ :drinks: back at the shed to compare charts.
I'll drop into the Dyno mob this morning and see what I can arrange.
I'm also working on a little surprise.....
Incas hoping to make it down for this event. However my work commitments have changed. I am sorry i am not going to be there. Sounds like it will be fun.
Mark
I'm hoping I will be able to make and catch up with some of you guys. The dyno run sounds very tempting too so I would be up for that too hee how many horses have escaped.............
Quote from: Urban_Legend on August 27, 2015, 08:58:24 PM
Incas hoping to make it down for this event. However my work commitments have changed. I am sorry i am not going to be there. Sounds like it will be fun.
Mark
Arrr, bugger mate. I'll have to wait till March then.
Troy
Quote from: FJools on August 28, 2015, 12:15:15 AM
I'm hoping I will be able to make and catch up with some of you guys. The dyno run sounds very tempting too so I would be up for that too hee how many horses have escaped.............
Cool Jools, I'll pencil you in.
Troy
Hi Troy
is all your "accommodation" booked up ?
i don't mind a sleeping bag on the floor :yes:
Plenty o room Jools.
Update to the dyno run.
The young chap who'll be riding the dyno will confirm his availability about a month out (he races).
I had no joy about getting a discount from the $90 per run, but he did say we get the printed report, plus tuning tips.
You guy's might be able to confirm, but apparently I've been spoilt with access to a dyno at $90 per go.
Also, apparently, this is a new whizz-bang dyno machine with all the bells and whistles, although that is mostly for injected bikes they said.
They did confirm that Saturday morning suits them best if they're not racing, so if all goes well we can have a BBQ lunch and compare charts (with beer perhaps).
Hi Troy
Never been to a Manshed day before, but this one looks Brillant, you must of spent a lot of time and effort on this.
I cannot believe how much you did in such a short time with "Aussie 1100's new life".
I will endeavour to make it (work dependant, I suppose if I don't answer the phone week prior might be easier) but it could be just for the Saturday.
I was going to book the bike in for a once over at Glenn Henry and a Dyno to see what else it needs but along came this Manshed Day, unbelievable, looking forward to meeting all.
A few Fridays ago (the one before all that rain) I was overlooking Nowra from Cambewarra Lookout, knocked off early and needed a Pie
Cool Sparky, the shed is somewhere in the green near the red circle....getting excited boys!
BTW- for anyone interested there is a charity ride from Nowra to Nerriga (BBQ, raffles etc) for a lad who passed away recently. Money goes to family trust. I've been told it departs Nowra at 10 or 11am on Saturday 19th. I'll be going, but will depart from Glenn Henry's at about 11am, or when I see them rolling past.
Troyskie
Looking forward to it too, and giving the FJ a good run out.
Note to self - must get a gel seat cover LOL!
Manshed update,
Pool is on, nice & warm, ran it up to 28 today (I'm a wimp when it comes to cold water), all serene.
Firepit checked & tested, also compliant for no permit, so, as long as there is not a total fire ban we are good to burn.
I'm checking with a local chemical company about the necessary items for the home galvanising/plating experiments, but should be good to go.
SWMBO & kids are still keen on getting away for the weekend, so we can use potty language without fear.
Shed sorting is still underway (I'm not allowed out when there's a council cleanup anymore :ireful:), but it's a bigger job than I thought.
Getting closer lads!
:drinks: :drinks: :drinks:
Quote from: Troyskie on October 05, 2015, 03:40:29 AM
Manshed update,
Pool is on, nice & warm, ran it up to 28 today (I'm a wimp when it comes to cold water), all serene.
Firepit checked & tested, also compliant for no permit, so, as long as there is not a total fire ban we are good to burn.
I'm checking with a local chemical company about the necessary items for the home galvanising/plating experiments, but should be good to go.
SWMBO & kids are still keen on getting away for the weekend, so we can use potty language without fear.
Shed sorting is still underway (I'm not allowed out when there's a council cleanup anymore :ireful:), but it's a bigger job than I thought.
Getting closer lads!
:drinks: :drinks: :drinks:
Ahhhh...... the Queen of Sparta? Yeah good idea ta protect her and young offspring from real Mancave secret business stuff....esp them Dreamtime stories of the Rainbow Serpent, Evil Conniving and Horsepower!
Nice of you ta climatise the pool to Queensland standards, I`ll bring me togs!.....oh and someth`n fresh from a Queensland farm! :drinks:
good news as I have had approval from wife to attend.. Recon it will be a great shake down run for the bike prior to next years rally. So at this stage 90% sure of attendance..
Sort of an end of year FJ christmas party - so not to be missed.
Any chance of booking a bed? No probs if Im to late as I will book in down the road.
Looking forward to it
Dayta (Rob)
Quote from: dayta on October 06, 2015, 04:04:53 AM
good news as I have had approval from wife to attend.. Recon it will be a great shake down run for the bike prior to next years rally. So at this stage 90% sure of attendance..
Sort of an end of year FJ christmas party - so not to be missed.
Any chance of booking a bed? No probs if Im to late as I will book in down the road.
Looking forward to it
Dayta (Rob)
Queenslander! Good onya Rob! ...Are you attending Mapleton Muster?....Might need to organise convoy opportunities for this Southern sojourn. :drinks:
Quote from: dayta on October 06, 2015, 04:04:53 AM
good news as I have had approval from wife to attend..
Any chance of booking a bed? No probs if Im to late as I will book in down the road.
Looking forward to it
Dayta (Rob)
G'day Rob, I think the beds are taken so far, but we do have comfy lounges (day beds) left, plus a mattress, and I think a blow-up mattress that still holds air. I'll check with SWMBO and see if I can commandeer the kids rooms. I'll also do a call around and see if I can roust up some extra camp beds or mattresses.
You guys are LEGENDS, the VIC and QLD crews may be out-numbering NSW!
Troyskie
Quote from: The General on October 05, 2015, 06:24:40 AM
Ahhhh...... the Queen of Sparta?
He he he, More like my Teuton Princess. I a lucky lad.
Hi Troy,
matress, lounge, camp bed what ever - dont care - there to catch up with some orsum FJ crew and get away for a bit. :drinks: Happy to book in down the road as I am a late starter...just let me know what suits.
Agree with the general...we should organise a convoy so happy to join who ever from QLD that are travelling down.
Apologies to Ray - as I have been meaning to respond.. Yes at this stage I will head to Mapleton for the ride..might even stay the night. Also my neigbour has expressed interest in attending on his Yamaha (R3) due to the great reputation the group has. Hope he does - as I know we will convert him to an FJ following the trip.
Rob
Quote from: dayta on October 09, 2015, 05:05:00 AM
Hi Troy,
matress, lounge, camp bed what ever - dont care - there to catch up with some orsum FJ crew and get away for a bit. :drinks: Happy to book in down the road as I am a late starter...just let me know what suits.
Agree with the general...we should organise a convoy so happy to join who ever from QLD that are travelling down.
Apologies to Ray - as I have been meaning to respond.. Yes at this stage I will head to Mapleton for the ride..might even stay the night. Also my neigbour has expressed interest in attending on his Yamaha (R3) due to the great reputation the group has. Hope he does - as I know we will convert him to an FJ following the trip.
Rob
See you at Mapleton Rob re Nowra options. Off topic a fraction but I rang up Lilly ponds at Mapleton and grabbed the last cheapie Verticle double there thinking I must`ve forgot to book, given they couldn`t find my name. However Heckle (Graham Lawrence), from Gympie reminded me tonite that I`m in with him....so there`s a spare cheapie available when I cancel it tommora. Incidently I am now out ranked in QLD......we now have a Lord in our midst and yes he`ll be at the Mapleton Muster......I`ll explain by a new thread on Local Classic Motorcycle racing here near Brissie at Lakeside Circuit, and how we can now competitively race our FJ`s at the track for less than $30 an hour! :drinks:
If we go to lakeside. I'll be on my R1 douggie.. Eat my shorts . ha
Ps. You've said a few times youd like to take it out for a Blatt. Let's see if the stars align.then its all yours. . Took it out a few weeks ago. Its a beast. .. :good2:
Quote from: dayta on October 09, 2015, 05:05:00 AM
Hi Troy,
matress, lounge, camp bed what ever - dont care - there to catch up with some orsum FJ crew and get away for a bit. :drinks: Happy to book in down the road as I am a late starter...just let me know what suits.
Rob
All clear for all who wish to stay mate.
The main spare goes to Doug as his wifey is accompanying him (plus he's bringing Horses' 1200, and my new tank :yahoo:). All other beds are open for 'first in best dressed'.
We can also hopefully do a fix-list for Horses' 1200 & I'll endeavour to get it up to scratch for March. That'll mean I'll have a spare bike for any interstate or O/S visitor who wants a bike for the rally (my Bro gets first dibs if he can get time off work :mocking:).
Troyskie
Off topic I know...apologies Troy..
Doug can I please take the extra room at Malpelton you mention please.. I will fix it up when I see you
cheers for that
Rob
Rob, pm sent. :drinks:
Hi Troy ..You have done a mighty job getting this event up and running. "Great stuff"
I am about 100% sure that I will come along on both days if that's ok.
I live at Sussex Inlet only 30 min down the road
so I will Ride in each day. (Thats unless I get Poisoned on the 1st day)
I am really looking forward to meeting a few FJ Owners and then being able to but faces to some of the FJOwners that are on the net.
I will have to get your address and mob number.
If it suits I might drop around and say hello one of these days soon.
.thanks again for making the effort ,,top job ,,,,,,,,, Phil from Sussex Inlet (wainot)
G'day Phil,
AWESOME MATE! I think Pete (Oldktmdude) may have meant you when he mentioned another FJ rider near me.
It will be great to meet up.
The more excited I get the more nervous SWMBO is :pardon:.
The weather is shaping up nicely & I think my Effie is getting impatient.
:drinks:
Troyskie
For anyone coming from the Canberra side of the ranges, a fun ride is via Tarago-Nerriga-Nowra. You can get there via Goulburn if coming up the Hume, all sealed except for some road works at Oallan ford. Some good sweepers and a fairly quiet road. I've never seen Mr. Plod along the Tarago-Nerriga section, just sayin'.
The local chemical mob should have all the bits we need for sub-orbital tank insertion in the next week or so. I'm off to Dick Smith's later today for some accurate power supply as an option to batteries.
SWMBO now has a work thingy in Sydney so we are cleared to fire appropriate man speak.
I'll be confirming Dyno availability this week.
The bush here is dry as a nuns' nasty, but we are good to burn unless there is a total fire ban. I'll be getting a permit in any case.
Troyskie
Hey Troy, looks like it's shaping up well! Trying to work some things out with work and stuff but will let you know, be great to meet up with some fellow FJers. :good2:
Good stuff Frogger. Are you still fighting the 'whine'?
Yeah Troy,
looking forward to it. I guess you will PM your address to those coming along?
Is the dyno plan for Saturday still a goer ?
Jools
Hey Jools,
Yep, I'll shoot out a PM.
Can anyone wanting to come that's not posted on the thread PM me & I'll send the details. I'll also put my mobile on the PM, just in case :mail1:.
Dyno confirmation later today.
Some surprise shit landed in the shed whilst I was away on the weekend, but I will remove it this week.
Oh, btw, almost forgot. The local chemical company came through! We now have a variety of acids, and suphates to test plating/galvanising, and electrolysis with. Prize to highest ballistic tank!
Dyno confirmation!
We are good to go. Start for dyno runs is tentatively set for 9am, but we can shuffle that to 8am for anyone needing it.
Aside from being short of a useful arm, weather is shaping up, a few bits to sort, but we are good to go!
:drinks: :drinks: :drinks: :drinks:
For those arriving Saturday, the Dyno run is planned to begin at 9am. The address is 17 Investigator St Flinders Estate Nowra. Map included...
Not long now..............
Bought a gear sack from the bike show yesterday and re-fitted the rack
I know you all will get excited when I say I maybe there.. But remember I said maybe..... (popcorn)
Morning all, just had a call from Simon who owns the dyno. All doubly confirmed for 9am this Saturday. He did ask how many takers & I guessed 6, inc me. The run costs $90 with print-out & tuning tips. I've been advised this is cheap (no previous dyno experience, so can't really say).
Can everyone let me know who is up for a run?
Pete you said you were up, any other takers?
Troyskie
Quote from: Troyskie on November 23, 2015, 03:06:06 PM
Morning all, just had a call from Simon who owns the dyno. All doubly confirmed for 9am this Saturday. He did ask how many takers & I guessed 6, inc me. The run costs $90 with print-out & tuning tips. I've been advised this is cheap (no previous dyno experience, so can't really say).
Can everyone let me know who is up for a run?
Pete you said you were up, any other takers?
Troyskie
Troy, both Alf and I are doing the dyno run. The tuning tips will be handy. It will be interesting to see how good or bad my back-yard tuning is.
Pete. :good2:
I'll be doing the dyno run too Troy
Evening Troy
I'm hoping to do Dyno also, as long as work doesn't stuff it up, (sometimes its as late as Friday) so far so good
Hey Jools, what day you heading down?
I'll be heading down Saturday morning.
Carefull, them Roos are tuff down Nowra way! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKec1T9l020 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKec1T9l020) :drinks:
Hi Sparky
not sure yet (Troy hasn't mentioned the earliest we can bomb in !) probably early Friday arvo to arrive around 5pm.
I want to try and miss some of the traffic so may head down through Picton, Mittagong and across the Roo valley.
I'll have to leave Mid Sunday Morning to get back for some other stuff tho.
G'day fellas.
I'll be ready from about 10am Friday for any early arrivals.
Troyskie :good2:
Quote from: FJools on November 24, 2015, 01:57:49 PM
Hi Sparky
not sure yet (Troy hasn't mentioned the earliest we can bomb in !) probably early Friday arvo to arrive around 5pm.
I want to try and miss some of the traffic so may head down through Picton, Mittagong and across the Roo valley.
I'll have to leave Mid Sunday Morning to get back for some other stuff tho.
Hi Jools
That a shame, earliest I can leave is Saturday morning and I have to be back Saturday evening.
I was going through Robertson and then Roo Valley past Cambewarra.
I'll see you there
One more sleep!! :drinks: :drinks: :drinks:
:good2:
Woke up super early, perhaps I have a case of excitement.
Quote from: Troyskie on November 26, 2015, 01:30:34 PM
Woke up super early, perhaps I have a case of excitement.
Me too, see you this afternoon. :drinks:
Just planning how I sneak off work early...........
planning the route, checking the weather. I think we might be a bit unlucky - not to hot and but hopefully the rain stays away, but I may get a chance to check out the Michellins wet weather performance :yes:.
POETS day!
It's not nice seeing all these posts while some are still hard at work.
Enjoy the safe ride today all
For any twilight or early morning arrivals, take roo Darwinism seriously. Fair dinkum roo nirvana here...you'll see..
Pics? (popcorn)
Hi all
Had a great weekend thanks Troy and thanks Pete for doing my shims.
Tony(roach) :good2: :good2:
Have to agree with Tony, what a great weekend! Thanks Troy for your hospitality and your great venue for the weekend. Thanks also for organising the dyno runs, a most enlightening and entertaining morning. Thanks to Alf, Tony, Jools, Richard, Noel, Phil, Alan and Johno, all great company, making it a truly memorable weekend.
Regards, Pete. :drinks:
What were some of the numbers from the dynamic?
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Quote from: Urban_Legend on November 29, 2015, 02:18:51 AM
What were some of the numbers from the dynamic?
Sorry. Just noticed my auto correct fail. Numbers from the DYNO please. Grrrr
Quote from: Urban_Legend on November 29, 2015, 05:33:36 AM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on November 29, 2015, 02:18:51 AM
What were some of the numbers from the dynamic?
Sorry. Just noticed my auto correct fail. Numbers from the DYNO please. Grrrr
Mark, I'm sure Troy will get around to posting the dyno sheets but at the moment he's probably still getting over having a house and yard full of story telling, beer swilling FJ nuts cramping his style. I would say he is too busy making up for lost time with his family who were tossed out of their family home for the weekend. Thanks again Troy!
Regards, Pete. :drinks:
Hope all you'se guys going North to get home made it safe and sound.
Seems there was a bit of wild weather (Wind, Rain, Hail, mini-twisters) that hit Northern NSW and SE Qld on Sunday.
Not the best of riding weather :-/
Arnie
He's probably been trying to explain the number of empties everywhere..............
Yes a fantastic weekend and it was great to put some faces to forum names at last. Many thanks for Troy for letting us in to his home and massive sheds.
I'm sure the excuses will come out once the results from the dyno are posted :crazy:
Looking at the weather forecast yesterday I took the coastal route and national park, which was just a bit drizzly. The look of those clouds over the interior did not inspire me to go that way.
Forgot to say farewell to Alf so if he's on here sorry buddy for the quick escape :biggrin: Hopefully take you up on the Bermagui offer for the Rally next year, provided I get those valve stem seals changed.
Apologies for the smoke screen in the dyno room :biggrin:
Quote from: FJools on November 29, 2015, 01:30:20 PM
Forgot to say farewell to Alf so if he's on here sorry buddy for the quick escape :biggrin: Hopefully take you up on the Bermagui offer for the Rally next year, provided I get those valve stem seals changed.
G'day Jools, Alf's not a member on here so I'll pass on your apologies. That offer for an overnight stay also extends to others heading south to the Rally. Between Alf and myself, we can probably put up 5 or 6 riders overnight. We will be leaving on the Thursday before the Rally, heading to Corryong via the Snowy Mountains. You are welcome to join us for the ride south. I promise that we will only ride on the least straight roads available.
Thanks for your company over the weekend Jools, it was a pleasure meeting you. (except for the smoke)
Regards, Pete.
G'day fellas, just surfacing & completed Dad duties.
Thanks for coming guys, awesome weekend.
Lets do it again!
Here are some of the pics....
Jools. Yours seems to be lacking a bit. Hope you get it sorted. Good to see the 1100's holding their own.
I was waiting for a comment..............
The max HP was actually 105 with the run when the clutch slipped but they didn't include that run on the combined sheet..............
(told you the excuses would be flying)
I've ordered Viton seals from RPM and an oil cooler. My original is getting a bit pebble dashed.
Also ordered some chinese rotors to replace the Sh*te prolites that are on there, on the recommendations of the guys this weekend.
I also have to thank Noel for watching me remove the fairing in the time honoured fashion before showing me the quick way of unbolting the subframe :shout:
While we're on the subject of excuses, if you're wondering about the undulations in the HP line of my bike (blue line) it was caused by a tight spot in my drive chain. Simon (the dyno tech) advised me to go up a jet size and 130hp (rear wheel) would be possible. Just ordered jets and new chain and sprockets, will go back and re-test on dyno when fitted. :yahoo: Pete.
Looked like a great day/night out and the dyno runs make for interesting reading. Will be great to catch up in March to hear the dyno stories etc :drinks:
Here is the unedited version slipping clutch run in Blue
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Morning All,
Thank you Troy for all your effort in setting up everything single handed for the weekend, and yes your small shed has me extremely jealous
I do wish I had more time there but it was my pleasure to meet all you fellow FJ enthusiasts
Hey Pete would you be going back to Simon for re-test on Dyno and if so let me know as I would like to get mine done seeing I missed the Dyno session, Simon seemed like he did a good job for you all.
Noel next time I'll bring those cans of VHT SP188 (and I do hope your alarm finally woke you for Tea)
Thanks again Troy. (when your fully armed again give me a bell and we'll go for a ride)
Quote from: Sparky84 on November 30, 2015, 05:10:04 PM
Hey Pete would you be going back to Simon for re-test on Dyno and if so let me know as I would like to get mine done seeing I missed the Dyno session, Simon seemed like he did a good job for you all.
G'day Alan, yes I will be going back for a re-test. Already re-jetted and drilled ports as Simon has suggested. Simon certainly does know his shit when it comes to the dyno. I'm just waiting for a new timing chain and drive chain and sprockets to arrive. Once I've fitted them I'll get in touch with you and we'll organise another session on the dyno. With the minor changes that I'm doing, Simon reckons I should get at least 130hp at the rear wheel. :good2:
Regards, Pete.
Hey Pete, is your engine standard or have you had some work done to it. Not a bad result on the dyno, almost exactly the same as the Kwaka, pretty good seeing the FJ new was quoted at 125hp (assuming at the crank), but if it's from tuning only are you willing to share some of your secrets.
By the way, who's the distinguished looking gent in the photos with the blue shirt and cargo pants, that wouldn't be the master mechanic from Melbourne would it. :biggrin:
It is Tony! It's the elusive one that maybe we might finally get to meet in March, (you really should go
Quote from: Bones on December 01, 2015, 01:34:37 AM
Hey Pete, is your engine standard or have you had some work done to it. Not a bad result on the dyno, almost exactly the same as the Kwaka, pretty good seeing the FJ new was quoted at 125hp (assuming at the crank), but if it's from tuning only are you willing to share some of your secrets.
By the way, who's the distinguished looking gent in the photos with the blue shirt and cargo pants, that wouldn't be the master mechanic from Melbourne would it. :biggrin:
Tony, it has a few basic mods, Wiseco 1219 kit, Unipods, V&H 4into 1 (well, half of one) and re-jetting. I have just gone up a couple of sizes for the mains, as it ran out of fuel at the top-end of the rev range. This should increase it to at least 130 rwhp. FJ1200 spec's quote 130hp at the crankshaft, Simon (dyno tech) told me that you usually lose between 17 to 20 % at the rear wheel, so my 130rwhp should be around 152hp at the crankshaft. I'll find out when I take it back for a re-test after I've finished making the suggested changes.
It was amazing just how close Alf's ZRX1200 and my bike were in both torque and horsepower. The sound of my bike at full noise, even through a sound deadened room was fantastic. To say it was loud would be an understatement.
Regards, Pete.
Already re-jetted and drilled ports as Simon has suggested. Simon certainly does know his shit when it comes to the dyno.
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Don't muck around do you Pete,
What size did you go from and to with your re-jetting?
Alan
Quote from: Sparky84 on December 01, 2015, 05:13:09 AM
Already re-jetted and drilled ports as Simon has suggested. Simon certainly does know his shit when it comes to the dyno.
Don't muck around do you Pete,
What size did you go from and to with your re-jetting?
Alan
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Alan - He's a handy man , that says it all. :good2:
Quote from: Sparky84 on December 01, 2015, 05:13:09 AM
Don't muck around do you Pete,
What size did you go from and to with your re-jetting?
Alan
Main jet size went from 122.5 up to 127.5. I had the larger jets sitting in my cupboard at home so no waiting for new ones to arrive. Just waiting on new
cam-chain and new drive-chain and sprockets to get here so a test ride can happen. Will be interesting to see the results.
Regards, Pete.
Hi Phil here from Sussex Inlet.
I would just like to 2nd everyone's else's remarks and say a big 'THANK YOU' very much to Troy for making me and everyone else feel most welcome over the past weekend at his great Ranch on the outskirts of Nowra
It was a pleasure to meet you Troy and a pleasure to meet all the other FJ riders and friends over the 2 days.
I say I came away thinking what a great bunch of easy going blokes and I felt right at home talking to all.
It was a shame that I was unable to stay the Saturday night to have a few Beers and a story or 2 or 3 or 4 .
-------So THANK YOU very much to all--------
I spent 4 hours last night working on the FJ1200.
I found that I had the same problem that you had "'Jools"" .My front light had taken a hit at one time and had a broken side mount and also one of the top rubber mounts that the Speedo cluster sits into was missing.
Lucky I had another FJ1200 light in the shed .(which I bought a year ago with some other parts for my FJ1100).
the bloke sold it to me saying it was a FJ1100 Light. So it all worked out in the long run,
My light is sitting in the fairing as it should be now and also my Speedo cluster is now rubber mounted ,and springs back and foward when you push on it (like it's meant to me)
While I had the front of the fairing off , I took the opportunity to take the top off the motor
and I checked all the valve's . They were all good. All within spec .
SO ALL IS GOOD ,,
THANKS to all again regards Phil (wainot)
Thanks to
Whoa.... no need to lock up the women and children, this is a one off post.
I just wanted to thank Troy publicly for hosting the manshed weekend and to say what a treat it was to meet up with so many other FJer's. For all my years on the forum, I had to date only met two members.
It is was a bold effort on Troys part opening up his home (resort) for a bunch of crusty old bikers, most of whom he had never met before. Also thanks to Mrs Troy for allowing it. She demonstrated good sense in deciding a weekend away with the kids was in order.
Troy was a gracious and generous host and had gone to the trouble of organising two events that were an enormous hit, a dyno run and a fridge full of beer, the latter fueling much conversation about the former. Good lubrication is as essential to motorbike talk as it is to motorbikes.
The conversation was easy and while much time was devoted to philosophy and fine art, Spicer gear boxes also got a good a run.
It was good that Richard (Rover) timed his 3 week dirt road Odyssey up and down the East coast of Australia to coincide with the weekend and it was great meeting him. His bike was only running on one cylinder but it didn't seem to slow him down. Having looked through all the photos of his trip so far he was clearly having the time of his life, and still had a week to go.
Troy was not kidding when he warned late and early arrivees of the kangaroo threat. I was forced to run the gauntlet, arriving late because of puncture but didn't see a single roo. It was only when I arrived I realised why, they were all at his place! This shot was taken from his front yard.
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Rally Teaser.
I put in 2500 kms over the weekend and all bar a couple of hour run down the highway Sunday morning, had 4 days of the best riding imaginable.
It seemed hard to grasp leaving Troys coastal paradise with its sub tropical humidity and vegetation and finishing up here later in the day, Charlotte Pass, the highest point on the highest road in Australia.
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The angle of the trees bears witness to the prevailing winds up there.
Most of the Wombats I saw were roadkill, left in the middle of the road for someone else to hit however this one appeared to be sleeping off the night before...... I think. He didn't look too good though.
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I rode many of the roads those of you heading South for the rally will no doubt travel on. Bloody spectacular!
Gentlemen, you rally route awaits you. This is before the good stuff starts.
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This is well above the inversion layer and the sky colour fantastic.
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Australia is not Europe, this is our effort at an alpine tunnel.(that's a ski run over the top)
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The weather was as good as it gets and I had the roads to myself, by this I mean cars at the rate of the 2 or 3 and hour all day!
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Gentlemen, there are roads in here to be ridden!
I came into Harrietville (the rally location) over Mt Hotham and it just doesn't get any better. Doug, those guys in the video you posted were wasting a perfectly good road riding like old women.
When you come down the Mountain, the Snowline Hotel is literally only 100 metres past the last curve and you have to brake to avoid over shooting it. Harrietville is one of those calender pretty villages that would be near impossible to take a bad photo of and the traders love motorbikes (and increasingly hate cyclists)
I called in and paid my deposit for the rally and this joint just has drunk, bullshitting, overweight, old enough to know better, the older I get the faster I was, double clutch spring, arthritic old farts.... motorbike rally written all over it, and wow, what a location.
Pete (oldktmdude) had just ridden around here for 6 days recently, for the first time, and his enthusiasm for the area made Steve Irwin look like he was on Valium.
See you all there, not long now.
Aaaaaaannnnnd, while I'm here, I see tyre widths being discussed again. Tyres are like oil to me, unless you are riding the wheels off it, use whatever size you like, you will probably never feel the difference. If it fits the wheel, fits the budget and fits your riding style, go for it. Don't over think it and if you don't like it, try something else next time, it's not a lifetime commitment.
I run a "pinched" 180 on a 5" rim on the back and a "pinched" 120 on a 3" rim on the front (with the "unused" vertical portion of tyre). In light of this discussion I took these photos yesterday.
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I use all the tyre. The other side of the bike which I couldn't photograph on the side stand, scraped the all the same stuff and the gear lever. For me, I would not want any less tyre.
I have recently re tweaked the steering with even shorter dogbones after fitting new suspension a year ago and the quick steering has returned.
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Mike Ramos has previously suggested (in response to my earlier photos of similar scrapes) that this could only happen with crappy suspension and the RPM set up, even with standard bones, would prevent this. Hmmm?
Here's one for the experts to consider, coming into a corner very hard on the brakes I discovered I had no rear brake, as in the pedal just disappeared, it was my only arse clencher for the trip. I always use both brakes (except for low speed turns) and was surprised how unsettled the bike was without a bit of rear brake. Anyway, having survived the corner, I pulled over and everything was in order, nothing had moved, slipped or leaked. I pumped it by hand a few times and the pedal returned and was fine thereafter. I concluded that the slide on the previous corner had flexed something and pushed the pads back. I have never had this happen before, what do you reckon? (It was not fade)
And finally, before I resume radio silence, I could not believe when I looked in on the forum a while back that the fuel reserve function was being discussed again. The only mystery about this is how so many people who should know better don't get it.
The function of it has been explained repeatedly and a number of people have spoken to me who find it as blindingly obvious and simple as I do. Some of you guys need to put aside your bias on who is posting and concentrate on the merits of the information itself. A number of simple ways of checking it yourself were put forward but it appears no one could be bothered doing it, preferring to continue speculating and putting forward half arsed theories.
If a first year apprentice after his first week on the job couldn't figure this out and explain it to me in detail, I would suggest he re consider his career choice.
Noel
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I have recently re tweaked the steering with even shorter dogbones after fitting new suspension a year ago and the quick steering has returned.
Mike Ramos has previously suggested (in response to my earlier photos of similar scrapes) that this could only happen with crappy suspension and the RPM set up, even with standard bones, would prevent this. Hmmm?
Noel
Noel, I know this is not the proper thread for this, but lets start with the Hmmm...
I see in the top photo you have attached, by the looks of it, a whole lot of luggage from the pillion position all the way over & past the tail section.
How much does all of that weigh?
What is your combined weight of you and all of your gear you wear?
Now the two combined?
If it is more than or
near 275# (125kg) then the rear spring is too soft. Now when I say
near, here is what I see in the photo. The weight is rearward more than a pillion riding position and based on the leverage it also multiplied the rear weight percentages.
Based on the photos, it appears the front suspension is good as the dragging is occurring to the rear of the bike. So, if you would please, let me know all of those weights and we can work on resolving your issues of dragging your bike.
Randy - RPM
Drinking that VB shit will make you pull a face like that. :negative: Still, looks like that wombat was VERY excited to see you Noel. :biggrin:
Here are some more photos fellas...
Great post Noel. Looks like we're all going to be shrinking our chicken strips at the rally.
Once I get this arm out of the sling I'll be using the 'Join me for a ride section'! :crazy:
Looks like a good time was had by all. Pity our country is so big.
Thanks for the pictures.
nothing wrong with cold VB ya big ox.
Hi Noel . Thanks for posting the great photo's. Pleased to see that you had a sweet ride home.
I must say , I do like the look of those Roads up in the high country.
At this stage , I am unsure as to which way that I will be traveling to Harrietville in March.
Would you be able to please tell me what road,s you traveled on and the approx time it took you to get to Harrietville and what stops you had along the way etc.
thanks for the info ,,cheers Phil
Thanks for the great pictures Noel. Looks like Oz has some fantastic roads to ride. If you like dragging pipes that much I have a Harley I'll sell ya. :biggrin: Dave
Quote from: TexasDave on December 03, 2015, 04:13:35 AM
Thanks for the great pictures Noel. Looks like Oz has some fantastic roads to ride. If you like dragging pipes that much I have a Harley I'll sell ya. :biggrin: Dave
Thanks Dave, but I like dragging them in the corners.
Noel
Quote from: Bones on December 02, 2015, 01:52:23 PM
........Still, looks like that wombat was VERY excited to see you Noel. :biggrin:
Very funny.
Noel
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I have recently re tweaked the steering with even shorter dogbones after fitting new suspension a year ago and the quick steering has returned.
Mike Ramos has previously suggested (in response to my earlier photos of similar scrapes) that this could only happen with crappy suspension and the RPM set up, even with standard bones, would prevent this. Hmmm?
Noel
Noel, I know this is not the proper thread for this, but lets start with the Hmmm...
I see in the top photo you have attached, by the looks of it, a whole lot of luggage from the pillion position all the way over & past the tail section.
How much does all of that weigh?
What is your combined weight of you and all of your gear you wear?
Now the two combined?
If it is more than or near 275# (125kg) then the rear spring is too soft. Now when I say near, here is what I see in the photo. The weight is rearward more than a pillion riding position and based on the leverage it also multiplied the rear weight percentages.
Based on the photos, it appears the front suspension is good as the dragging is occurring to the rear of the bike. So, if you would please, let me know all of those weights and we can work on resolving your issues of dragging your bike.
Randy - RPM
Randy, I may not have put that very well. My reference to Mike Ramos comments and the rim/tyre combo was to debunk them. Yes you can scrape everything with the RPM shocker, you just have to lean over further, and, in doing so use all of the "pinched" tyre.
My bike would previously scrape on the lower section of that angled part of the belly pan and to the rear. As you can see, it now scrapes at the top and front which clearly shows the bike is now standing taller and leaning further.
I don't think the marks suggest a bias to the rear end sagging but rather reflects the shape of the belly pan.
The extent of tyre use would also confirm the bike is standing taller and leaning further.
The luggage weighs a total of 20 kgs (44lbs) including bags. The forward bag sits on the pillion seat and has the heavy items placed at the bottom, the rear bag only has loose packed clothes and can be lifted with my little finger. The bike feels no different, even at carpark speed and U turns with this set up.
Those bags always draw similar comments but they look worse than they are.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on December 03, 2015, 06:51:38 AM
Randy, I may not have put that very well. My reference to Mike Ramos comments and the rim/tyre combo was to debunk them. Yes you can scrape everything with the RPM shocker, you just have to lean over further, and, in doing so use all of the "pinched" tyre.
My bike would previously scrape on the lower section of that angled part of the belly pan and to the rear. As you can see, it now scrapes at the top and front which clearly shows the bike is now standing taller and leaning further.
I don't think the marks suggest a bias to the rear end sagging but rather reflects the shape of the belly pan.
The extent of tyre use would also confirm the bike is standing taller and leaning further.
The luggage weighs a total of 20 kgs (44lbs) including bags. The forward bag sits on the pillion seat and has the heavy items placed at the bottom, the rear bag only has loose packed clothes and can be lifted with my little finger. The bike feels no different, even at carpark speed and U turns with this set up.
Those bags always draw similar comments but they look worse than they are.
Noel
No, I guess you didn't and your comments are still confusing.
How about the foot pegs & brake pedal, they have to be just about ground away if the lower fairing is rubbing.
How about the left side is it doing the same thing?
Still it sounds like we need to get your RPM suspension dialed in properly.
What is the combined weight of you, your gear and the luggage?
What is the rear sag setting loaded like you were for the trip?
Randy - RPM
Quote from: ribbert on December 03, 2015, 05:43:28 AM
Thanks Dave, but I like dragging them in the corners.
Noel
Oh how I am chortling, that is a classic, :rofl:
Great pics Noel, and that rear tyre photo of yours to me it looks like you have gone OVER the edge onto the sidewall looking at the rub marks, could that be right? Anyway, yep can't wait to get back to that part of the country. One thing that did sadden me on the Jindabyne trip was the number of dead wombats on the side of the road, poor buggers don't stand a chance. Hopefully this trip I can stop to take more photos, thats what I really miss from the first trip.
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One thing that did sadden me on the Jindabyne trip was the number of dead wombats on the side of the road, poor buggers don't stand a chance.
The wombats sit around their campfire at night saying the same thing about motorcyclists.
I was late travelling from Khancoban to Jindabyne because of a puncture and ended up travelling at 50 kph for the latter part of the ride into the night. I had abandoned any hope of getting there at a reasonable time and was just grateful to arrive in one piece, I did not see a single vehicle for the entire trip, the locals know!
It was like all the wildlife in the state had congregated on that road, wombats, kangaroos, deer and just when you think the animal population couldn't get any thicker, bloody brumbies running across the road.
The bloke at the motel couldn't believe I had ridden through there unscathed at that hour of the night.
Quote from: X-Ray on December 03, 2015, 10:46:43 PM
Hopefully this trip I can stop to take more photos, that's what I really miss from the first trip.
You know Ray, it took me 45 years to learn to do that. Most photo ops involve doubling back, having caught a fleeting glimpse of the shot as you whizz past. This sometimes involves travelling some distance before a U turn can be made and then overshooting the spot when backtracking for the same reason, but it's worth it.
Great photos usually go hand in hand with great roads and the last thing you want to do is interrupt the flow. However, if you're riding hard, a mini stop gives your brain a break from the intense level of concentration and it only takes a few corners to get back in the groove once you start riding again.
Richard (Rover) and I discussed this very thing last weekend, we were in absolute agreeance, go back and get the shot,
every time.
This is one of many reasons I like riding alone.
Quote from: X-Ray on December 03, 2015, 10:46:43 PM
,.......that rear tyre photo of yours to me it looks like you have gone OVER the edge onto the sidewall looking at the rub marks....
Modern tyres are truly amazing. Even at those angles you can nail the throttle at 6000rpm in second coming out of the corner and while the rear might slide a little, mostly it just slingshots out of the corner. The thought of doing that on road tyres a few years back was unthinkable, let alone ones that give great mileage. On trips alone that tyre has 9500kms on it.
On the last night of my trip I had a great motel room overlooking the mountains, big screen TV, foxtel, netflix etc but opted for a comfy chair outside my room with a bottle of red staring at my bike, reflecting on all the places it had taken me over the last 4 days and the manner in which it had taken me. I don't ever recall a trip where the old girl has been flogged so mercilessly for 12 hours a day.
I almost felt if it didn't want to start in morning I wouldn't blame it.
However, come the morning the engine sprang to life almost before I could hear the starter engage, as usual, and immediately settled into a steady purr with nary a hint of the thrashing it had endured the day before. What a machine!
I was back in Victoria now (you know, bike confiscation if they can prove you were thinking about speeding) and decided I had pushed my luck and the bike enough on this trip and would just cruise home, then this set of corners came up........
Looking forward to meeting you at the Rally Ray, roll on March.
Noel
I had a "pleasant" (not) surprise in the mail on Friday - A demand from the state revenue theft department suggesting i had traversed a fixed speed camera above the stautory snail pace demanded by our uber zealous local state department responsible for removing the fun out of life.
$112 and 1 point for 72kmh in a 60 zone on the Princes Highway from the Sunday ride home. its interesting that if had been a mobile constabule unit it would have been 3 points. Go figure...........??
Quote from: FJools on December 14, 2015, 03:48:13 PM
I had a "pleasant" (not) surprise in the mail on Friday - A demand from the state revenue theft department suggesting i had traversed a fixed speed camera above the stautory snail pace demanded by our uber zealous local state department responsible for removing the fun out of life.
$112 and 1 point for 72kmh in a 60 zone on the Princes Highway from the Sunday ride home. its interesting that if had been a mobile constabule unit it would have been 3 points. Go figure...........??
Jools, be thankful your were in NSW, south of the border that would cost you $303/3 points
Jools, where was this? In Nowra the only fixed cam is in a 70 zone.....
I remember those. They tried speed cameras in Texas several years back. They worked pretty good but the maintenance cost was extremely high. Seems every time they got them fixed someone (not me) would shoot them out again. Made damn fine targets. No more speed cameras. We do have a few red light cameras at stop lights. Dave
Quote from: FJools on December 14, 2015, 03:48:13 PM
I had a "pleasant" (not) surprise in the mail on Friday - A demand from the state revenue theft department suggesting i had traversed a fixed speed camera above the stautory snail pace demanded by our uber zealous local state department responsible for removing the fun out of life.
$112 and 1 point for 72kmh in a 60 zone on the Princes Highway from the Sunday ride home. its interesting that if had been a mobile constabule unit it would have been 3 points. Go figure...........??
G'day Jools, sad to hear that you had to make a donation to the arsehole collection service. I'm surprised that they could read your number plate with all that "fog" coming out the exhaust. Regards, Pete. :diablo:
Quote from: oldktmdude on December 14, 2015, 11:09:53 PM
Quote from: FJools on December 14, 2015, 03:48:13 PM
I had a "pleasant" (not) surprise in the mail on Friday - A demand from the state revenue theft department suggesting i had traversed a fixed speed camera above the stautory snail pace demanded by our uber zealous local state department responsible for removing the fun out of life.
$112 and 1 point for 72kmh in a 60 zone on the Princes Highway from the Sunday ride home. its interesting that if had been a mobile constabule unit it would have been 3 points. Go figure...........??
G'day Jools, sad to hear that you had to make a donation to the arsehole collection service. I'm surprised that they could read your number plate with all that "fog" coming out the exhaust. Regards, Pete. :diablo:
Obviously running low on oil by thast stage Pete......... :crazy:
Quote from: Troyskie on December 14, 2015, 05:49:08 PM
Jools, where was this? In Nowra the only fixed cam is in a 70 zone.....
It was on the Princes Highway car park - somewhere between Kirawee and Kogarah. I was surprised as I thought i took it easy through this unfamiliar area - must have loaded them up for Christmas !
Quote from: FJools on December 15, 2015, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: Troyskie on December 14, 2015, 05:49:08 PM
Jools, where was this? In Nowra the only fixed cam is in a 70 zone.....
It was on the Princes Highway car park - somewhere between Kirawee and Kogarah. I was surprised as I thought i took it easy through this unfamiliar area - must have loaded them up for Christmas !
Kogarah would be the one Jools, none before this, changes from 70 to 60 a couple of hundred metres before the cameras, its also School Zone.
I go past that one daily and I have seen it go off up to 3 times while waiting(parked) in traffic one afternoon.
Texas sounds like they have a good solution to the cameras
Travelling to the recent Manshed day in Nowra, I punctured my tyre with a twig in the worst possible place at the worst possible time. (between Khancoban and Jindabyne at dusk) I did not pass a single vehicle for the entire trip and the traffic would only get lighter as it got dark. The entire area is National Park and uninhabited.
With no phone signal and zero degrees forecast overnight, I chose my options carefully. I considered the twig too big to plug and was not going to risk removing it, so I left it in there and stopped every 30 minutes to pump up the tyre. The remote tyre pressure monitor let me keep an eye on it. I would have been stuffed without a compressor.
Next morning I hunted out the tyre shop and he was happy to remove the tyre and fix it.
The axle for some reason was difficult to remove and I watched nervously as he exchanged hammers for heavier ones. I saw what I thought was the hammer glancing off the muffler a couple of times but then forgot about it...until today!
Finally cleaning my bike after the trip I noticed this:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5758/23976997256_3748e3aeb8_c.jpg)
As you can see, the axle is well below the muffler.
He also snapped off one of the chain oiler nozzles but I noticed that at the time.
Having gone to so much trouble to keep them looking good all these years it's very disappointing to see them damaged so needlessly, not even a good story or a limp to go with it.
The last time someone else worked on one of my vehicles it was the bike shop rebuilding my Sturmey Archer 3 speed hub when I was 12. Hopefully it will be another 50 years before anyone else touches my machines again.
Grrrrrrrr.
Noel
mmmmm.....Mate, that looks almost impossible! Unless you left your luggage attached and it`s cantilevered well past the rear axle.
Oh....make sure you always use grease whenever inserting that long bolt. (I hate it when he demands to be hit with someth`n harder!) :biggrin:
Got my FJ ready for another dyno run. Fitted new timing chain, new drive chain and sprockets and increased main jets size by 2 sizes. Will be interesting to see the difference. I know at least 2 others were also thinking about doing the dyno run so let me know if you're still interested. Early January would suit me but I'll fit in with others if necessary.
Have a great and safe New Year everyone!
Regards, Pete. :drinks:
Jeebus Noel! What is it with you and bloody punctures?? I haven't had one in my 21 year romance with my FJ! No more ok? I know what you are saying about bike mechanics damaging things AFTER you have spelled out to them NO MARKS OR SCRATCHES OK!!..... Tell you in Harrietville
Pete, are you getting ready for March already?
Quote from: X-Ray on December 29, 2015, 05:15:30 AM
Pete, are you getting ready for March already?
Ray, I've been getting ready for March since last March. Got a new set of tyres sitting in the shed, just need to wear the rest of the remaining tread
from the PR4's.
Speaking of punctures, I had my first one, since I started riding again, back in November. I've probably done the best part of 100,000 km's and only one flat tyre. Amazing how good today's modern tyres are. I remember back in the late '70s and early '80s having punctures fairly regularly.
March will be here before you can blink so start getting ready now. Looking forward to catching up with you all and meeting some new faces.
Regards, Pete. :drinks:
G'day all, :good2:
you know what's going to happen now don't you?
There is going to be a spike (no pun intended) to the amount of flat tyres those on the list will get after all this chat about how long it's been since we had a flat.
If I get one on my way to the rally in March I'm going to sit by the road until one of you come along and fix my tyre. :dash1:
Have fun anyway.
Happy New Year to everyone.
Be Good.
Tony Mac
Quote from: Tony Mac on December 30, 2015, 07:45:33 PM
G'day all, :good2:
you know what's going to happen now don't you?
There is going to be a spike (no pun intended) to the amount of flat tyres those on the list will get after all this chat about how long it's been since we had a flat.
If I get one on my way to the rally in March I'm going to sit by the road until one of you come along and fix my tyre. :dash1:
Have fun anyway.
Happy New Year to everyone.
Be Good.
Tony Mac
I'll gladly fix your tyre for you Tony, as long as there's a beer in it for me at the end. Happy New Year to you too.
Regards, Pete. :drinks:
Quote from: ribbert on December 27, 2015, 08:33:52 AM
Travelling to the recent Manshed day in Nowra, I punctured my tyre with a twig.......
....... the hammer glancing off the muffler a couple of times........
Grrrrrrrr.
Noel
I just saw a "Tyre Power" ad on TV. It featured a few of their franchisees from around the country, the last one from Jindabyne, the bloke that belted the dents in my muffler.
Now I'm going to think about it every time the ad comes on.
Grrrrrrrr.
Noel
Quote from: oldktmdude on December 28, 2015, 04:21:05 AM
Got my FJ ready for another dyno run. Fitted new timing chain, new drive chain and sprockets and increased main jets size by 2 sizes. Will be interesting to see the difference. I know at least 2 others were also thinking about doing the dyno run so let me know if you're still interested. Early January would suit me but I'll fit in with others if necessary.
Have a great and safe New Year everyone!
Regards, Pete. :drinks:
Fark !
I have the swing arm out at the moment for machining to get the new shock in but the shed has been like a sauna so I'm waiting.........
Besides just got back from NZ xmas with the inlaws...............phew! made it.
Quote from: FJools on December 31, 2015, 04:08:30 PM
Fark !
I have the swing arm out at the moment for machining to get the new shock in but the shed has been like a sauna so I'm waiting.........
Besides just got back from NZ xmas with the inlaws...............phew! made it.
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Jools You need to get the next size shed up like Troy did....
If you need a hand to get it all back together, just let me know.
Pete, Yes for Dyno early Jan, just let me know time and I'll see you there, How do the bigger jets seem?
Quote from: Sparky84 on January 01, 2016, 02:49:41 AM
Pete, Yes for Dyno early Jan, just let me know time and I'll see you there, How do the bigger jets seem?
Alan, only had a short ride since doing the jets but seems to pull harder at the top end. I could be just imagining an improvement as I haven't ridden it for a while. The dyno will show how it's changed.
Regards, Pete. :good2:
This shed day just gets better.
We did a little part two to the dyno run.
Pete, Alan & I put our bikes up again to see who had the most improvement AND, who might beat Jools on the 'anti pursuit', 007 style smoke screen.
Pete wins again :good2:!
Al & I tied on the smoke screen, but Jools, you still hold title on the best Bond effect :lol:.
Anyhoo FJ fans below is the chart..... :drinks:
BTW- for those wondering why my bike falls off a cliff at 10k RPM, we discovered it has a rev limiter! The other two don't.
Comparing early figures to the new ones show Pete gained 6.13 hp and 2.02 ft-lbs torque, while Troy gained 6.63 hp and 3.53 ft-lbs torque.
Just goes to show that there's horsepower to be found just doing simple things like Pete did and increase jet size, or doing what Troy did and fit a new exhaust system.
They might be a dinosaur engine, but they respond well to tweaks, and although you didn't get the expected 130hp Pete, 126hp is pretty damn good and nothing to sneeze at.
Quote from: Troyskie on January 10, 2016, 02:35:00 AM
.......we discovered it has a rev limiter! The other two don't.
This always gets my attention. The rev limiter seems to be a greater mystery than the function of the reserve switch (which is no mystery at all :lol:)
Someone recently posted that Randy had cleared it at a rally a while back.....
Quote from: Mark Olson on October 04, 2015, 03:00:22 AM
Yes all FJ,s have a rev limiter ,however they do not always cut out at the same RPM. Some cut out at 9.5 while others will go to 12k.
This topic came up at the Renegade Rally this year and RPM randy cleared it up. Some of us have found the limit and others hàve not.
.........but didn't expand on what he said.
Manufacturers of vehicles equipped with limiters generally set them very near to redline, that being what they have determined is the safe limit to rev the engine to without damage and beyond where it stopped making more power anyway, not 30% higher. (I wouldn't think an FJ engine would be capable of revving past 12k without a limiter anyway)
If anyone can explain this to me I would be grateful.
Noel
One other little surprise is the tacho kept winding up to 12k even though the dyno picked up the cut-out at 10k. Simon, riding the dyno, noted the same.
I did have a fang on the way to the dyno and the tacho was telling me the engine was getting to 12k :wacko3:.
I don't know instruments, but my guess is it could be that the tacho is (after 30 odd years) out of calibration/worn out/sticky, and not really showing what the engine is doing. Plus I assume Yamaha might calibrate a safety margin in to keep the engine in one piece.
Quote from: Bones on January 10, 2016, 04:20:14 AM
Comparing early figures to the new ones show Pete gained 6.13 hp and 2.02 ft-lbs torque, while Troy gained 6.63 hp and 3.53 ft-lbs torque.
Just goes to show that there's horsepower to be found just doing simple things like Pete did and increase jet size, or doing what Troy did and fit a new exhaust system.
They might be a dinosaur engine, but they respond well to tweaks, and although you didn't get the expected 130hp Pete, 126hp is pretty damn good and nothing to sneeze at.
Just ordered some bigger main jets. It's still a bit lean so more fuel can't hurt. Sneaking up to 130 hp. (popcorn)
Good work lads,
glad to see you keeping it in there, but Troy all being well you will need to find another smoke screen provider for the Rally in March..........and I'm still at a loss which Delkovic slip ons to source. They no longer list any for the 3XW, but how close a fit are the 3CV models ??
The slip-ons I've fitted are for the 3CV (FJ1200 3CV 89-90). I went with the 450mm length, I believe they have a 350mm version which I think would be better.
Quote from: oldktmdude on January 10, 2016, 09:26:01 PM
.....Just ordered some bigger main jets. It's still a bit lean so more fuel can't hurt. Sneaking up to 130 hp. (popcorn)
Again!!??
Pete, I've got a roll of 3/8" copper water pipe if you need to go any bigger, I can send you a length.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on January 12, 2016, 04:56:34 AM
Again!!??
Pete, I've got a roll of 3/8" copper water pipe if you need to go any bigger, I can send you a length.
Noel
Noel, I'd take you up on your offer except that would be a backward step. My new jets will be larger that 3/8". :rofl2:
Roll on March. Regards, Pete.
Quote from: Mark Olson on October 04, 2015, 03:00:22 AM
Yes all FJ,s have a rev limiter ,however they do not always cut out at the same RPM. Some cut out at 9.5 while others will go to 12k.
This topic came up at the Renegade Rally this year and RPM randy cleared it up. Some of us have found the limit and others hàve not.
Quote from: ribbert on January 10, 2016, 06:13:57 AM
If anyone can explain this to me I would be grateful.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on January 12, 2016, 05:11:52 AM
Can anyone explain how this works?
Noel
OK, third and final call before I give up. I don't ask this just for myself, I am sure there are many here who would like to know just how it works and why it differs from bike to bike.
It would nice to have it cleared up and put to bed once and for all.
If no one answers I will enquire from someone that knows or be forced to stick with my own delusional ideas on how this works.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on January 13, 2016, 06:05:43 AM
Quote from: Mark Olson on October 04, 2015, 03:00:22 AM
Yes all FJ,s have a rev limiter ,however they do not always cut out at the same RPM. Some cut out at 9.5 while others will go to 12k.
This topic came up at the Renegade Rally this year and RPM randy cleared it up. Some of us have found the limit and others hàve not.
Quote from: ribbert on January 10, 2016, 06:13:57 AM
If anyone can explain this to me I would be grateful.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on January 12, 2016, 05:11:52 AM
Can anyone explain how this works?
Noel
OK, third and final call before I give up. I don't ask this just for myself, I am sure there are many here who would like to know just how it works and why it differs from bike to bike.
It would nice to have it cleared up and put to bed once and for all.
If no one answers I will enquire from someone that knows or be forced to stick with my own delusional ideas on how this works.
Noel
(popcorn)
IF, the 92 FJ has a rev limiter.....mine does not work.
Scott
Quote from: FJscott on January 14, 2016, 08:52:45 AM
IF, the 92 FJ has a rev limiter.....mine does not work.
Scott
If my '89 has one, it's above 10,500 rpm...
Quote from: ribbert on January 13, 2016, 06:05:43 AM
Quote from: Mark Olson on October 04, 2015, 03:00:22 AM
Yes all FJ,s have a rev limiter ,however they do not always cut out at the same RPM. Some cut out at 9.5 while others will go to 12k.
This topic came up at the Renegade Rally this year and RPM randy cleared it up. Some of us have found the limit and others hàve not.
A 9.5 thou rev limiter on a bike with the red line at 9.5 thou makes sense, but having the rev limiter set at 12 thou on a bike with a red line at 9.5 thou to me goes against the manufactures recommendations.
Why would they put the rev ceiling 2.5 thou higher than the red line, at those revs you've gone past the peak power and torque outputs and it'd be like flogging a dead horse.
I've had mine to a bit over 10 thou and its fairly howling, and even though it might be possible to go higher, mechanical sympathy stops me from doing it. If they do have a limiter, I haven't reached it and never will.
Sorry Troy for the thread hijack.
Quote from: Bones on January 15, 2016, 12:24:13 AM
Why would they put the rev ceiling 2.5 thou higher than the red line, at those revs you've gone past the peak power and torque outputs and it'd be like flogging a dead horse.
I've had mine to a bit over 10 thou and its fairly howling, and even though it might be possible to go higher, mechanical sympathy stops me from doing it. If they do have a limiter, I haven't reached it and never will.
Yep, I'm with you Tony, my bike sees near redline a lot but I can't see the point in revving it beyond max power and it's like finger nails down a blackboard seeing one revved way beyond it.
Undersquare pushrod motors can't generally be revved hard enough to self destruct but the FJ, with it's dohc and 4 valve design, possibly could.
So, what limits FJ engine speed, an erratic limiter randomly fitted to some bikes and not others or reaching max volumetric efficiency or perhaps something else?
Noel
They are more a protection from a missed gear or false neutral.
If you are on the case and revving to near the redline, any missed gear could send the tacho way past that 12,000 mark.
That would be my expanation but again, you would maybe expect it to be set around 10,500.
Perhaps a tuned race motor could safely get up there ?
Quote from: FJools on January 17, 2016, 03:12:32 PM
They are more a protection from a missed gear or false neutral.
If you are on the case and revving to near the redline, any missed gear could send the tacho way past that 12,000 mark.
That would be my expanation but again, you would maybe expect it to be set around 10,500.
Perhaps a tuned race motor could safely get up there ?
Yes, you can make an engine rev harder and produce more power at higher RPM but the strength of the components remains the same (and more likely to fail)
If I'm not mistaken, Legend's car engines only last a couple of seasons (correct me if I'm wrong) and mechanical failure not uncommon, not something you hear much of with FJ's on the road and Randy has rebuilt some 200 engines. That's a lot of rebuilds for engines that only do a small number of hours per season.
Keep it under redline!
Noel
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Noel, I feel for you with your dents. I had a similar experience when I removed my rear wheel to do wheel bearings. But I CAREFULLY used the needed BFH with a punch to ONLY hit the axle, not the muffler. I found the axle bone dry, which is not how I install (much of) anything.
Quote from: ribbert on December 27, 2015, 08:33:52 AM
The axle for some reason was difficult to remove and I watched nervously as he exchanged hammers for heavier ones. I saw what I thought was the hammer glancing off the muffler a couple of times but then forgot about it...until today!
Finally cleaning my bike after the trip I noticed this:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5758/23976997256_3748e3aeb8_c.jpg)
As you can see, the axle is well below the muffler.
He also snapped off one of the chain oiler nozzles but I noticed that at the time.
Having gone to so much trouble to keep them looking good all these years it's very disappointing to see them damaged so needlessly, not even a good story or a limp to go with it.
The last time someone else worked on one of my vehicles it was the bike shop rebuilding my Sturmey Archer 3 speed hub when I was 12. Hopefully it will be another 50 years before anyone else touches my machines again.
Grrrrrrrr.
Noel