Well this is my project and it should be on the road this summer (famous last words)
So I bought this FJ a little while ago a nice running ABS model I then acquired the big heavy duty (but light) under-braced swinging arm off a late R1, two R1 rear wheels one 3 spoke the other 5 then come the Exup ru usd front end complete with wheel 6 pot calipers top, bottom yokes and speedo drive. I also have another r1 front 3 spoke wheel (after a 5 spoke). First thing was off with all the plastic bit's and start the plastic welding, just a few age related cracks on most of the bolt holes, now as much as I like the looks of the FJ I do like twin headlamps so while the plastic welder is out .... found a cbr600rr top fairing on ebay like new had to have it, then again on ebay got a new twin headlamp for the cbr600rr (1995). Loads of chopping welding grinding more chopping and it's not looking bad IMO (will ad photos soon). All plastics done and in two pack primer. Swinging arm mmmmm deep thought, measuring more thinking measuring then cut off 14mm off the right side then using a combination of the R1 inner sleeve and the FJ swing arm pin / bolt it fitted with space both sides for dust / dirt caps. I made these on the lathe out of aluminium complete with internal grooves for "o" rings. Rear shock, standard FJ and perfect central fit in the hole of the arm the triangles however are still being made and thought about. The front end was removed offered up the Exup front it fitted with no big problems just had to mod the turn stops on the bottom yoke and take about 15mm off the pins the ignition switch bolts to, drill it tap it job done even the steering lock works .... happy days :yahoo: Next post will be with more info and photos. Russ
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Pictures Russ ! :good2:
George
Quote from: Russfjr1 on April 14, 2015, 05:30:52 PM
Well this is my project and it should be on the road this summer (famous last words)
So I bought this FJ a little while ago a nice running ABS model I then acquired the big heavy duty (but light) under-braced swinging arm off a late R1, two R1 rear wheels one 3 spoke the other 5 then come the Exup ru usd front end complete with wheel 6 pot calipers top, bottom yokes and speedo drive. I also have another r1 front 3 spoke wheel (after a 5 spoke). First thing was off with all the plastic bit's and start the plastic welding, just a few age related cracks on most of the bolt holes, now as much as I like the looks of the FJ I do like twin headlamps so while the plastic welder is out .... found a cbr600rr top fairing on ebay like new had to have it, then again on ebay got a new twin headlamp for the cbr600rr (1995). Loads of chopping welding grinding more chopping and it's not looking bad IMO (will ad photos soon). All plastics done and in two pack primer. Swinging arm mmmmm deep thought, measuring more thinking measuring then cut off 14mm off the right side then using a combination of the R1 inner sleeve and the FJ swing arm pin / bolt it fitted with space both sides for dust / dirt caps. I made these on the lathe out of aluminium complete with internal grooves for "o" rings. Rear shock, standard FJ and perfect central fit in the hole of the arm the triangles however are still being made and thought about. The front end was removed offered up the Exup front it fitted with no big problems just had to mod the turn stops on the bottom yoke and take about 15mm off the pins the ignition switch bolts to, drill it tap it job done even the steering lock works .... happy days :yahoo: Next post will be with more info and photos. Russ
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Welcome, ya mad modder!!!
This might be helpful....I have done the same but I see my picture management is not good.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3148.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3148.0)
Modified fairing to twin headlight, new headlight from cbr600rr 2005
If I get enough interest I know someone who can make a mould from this to produce others! The good thing with that would be a uniform interior and possibly lighter in carbon
Front end, had to drill the lugs for the turn stops added m6 screws (flat head to hit the stop) now adjustable turn stops :good2: the ignition posts had to be cut down but having done this simple mod everything works including steering lock just as it should. The complete front end is from a Exup RU 1000 with some really nice calipers, 12 pots of stopping power! That will come in very handy trying to stop from the dizzy heights of 30mph
Handle bars !!!! made these bar holder oners from billet aluminium aircraft grade of course :smile: . As for the bars the item you can see (just) in the photo is only for mock up I think the bars that will be used might be flat with a bit of pull back.
These two help with making things :good2:
Ok Russ, you have me hooked..... I like what your vision and what you have done. I admire your skills.
You are a interesting fellow.
Quote from: Russfjr1 on April 15, 2015, 05:25:15 AM
If I get enough interest I know someone who can make a mould from this to produce others! The good thing with that would be a uniform interior and possibly lighter in carbon
:good2:
I see Russ has a late model ABS bike, I wonder if that fairing could be made to fit the early FJ's?
I really like the larger air scoops for cooling the top end vs. the small scoops we have on our early bikes.
Yea, I'm gonna follow this build closely...
Thanks for the comments much appreciated when others like things I have done :good: Did a bit more to the rear end today, it's totally amazing how little work is actually needed to get things to line up like the chain and getting the wheel central to the bike. With the chain ... simple, made a 3mm spacer for the front sprocket, you can still use the original nut just turn it around so the recess part is to the outside. I will use a bit of thread lock on this as well as the lock tab. The rear end just needed 3mm off the outer spacer from the sprocket side that put the chain to within a couple of mm, I could and will if needed turn the sprocket around to gain a bit more from the recess on the sprocket and because of the s arm having some taken off it to fit the frame the wheel is within 1mm of centre. So not a bad day and I get to keep my 190 tyre. Just need to make a small spacer caliper side and make the rectangular lug bigger by about 5mm in depth (it stands out on the bracket and locates in the s arm in place of a torque arm)
Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 15, 2015, 12:15:36 PM
I see Russ has a late model ABS bike, I wonder if that fairing could be made to fit the early FJ's?
I really like the larger air scoops for cooling the top end vs. the small scoops we have on our early bikes.
Yea, I'm gonna follow this build closely...
Anything can be made to fit with a little thought ..... and a big hammer :good2:
just a few photos of the rear, main bit going on next is the triangle (last photo). The shock has good travel just need to get the measurements correct to get a nice ride from the rear, have made the adjustable dog bone now trying to figure a way to produce an adjustable triangle but retain strength and keep the dimensions within reason.... might have to use titanium or something to make it compact but strong.
Russ, check out this install by another member last year. Scroll down and you can see the aluminum triangle linkage he made which looks like it has a ton of adjustablity.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=10883.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=10883.0)
Hi Copper just had a look at that set up and looks to have a multitude of possibilities. One difference on the later R1 which I have is the dog bone is wing arm side and triangles are mounted to the frame, however, that should not affect the way they work as long as you get the geometry right. I can see on Candieandy's set up the use of the adjustable dog bone with rose joints same as I have made but I can't see bearings for the bolts / pivot point for the triangle on the arm, possibly built into the spacer? I will have to ask.
Quote from: Russfjr1 on April 15, 2015, 05:47:47 AM
These two help with making things :good2:
Yessir, that's a nice little setup. You'll fit in here. Making stuff ROCKS!
Steve
Not jealous in the slightest...
Quote from: Russfjr1 on April 15, 2015, 05:19:59 PM
Thanks for the comments much appreciated when others like things I have done :good: Did a bit more to the rear end today, it's totally amazing how little work is actually needed to get things to line up like the chain and getting the wheel central to the bike. With the chain ... simple, made a 3mm spacer for the front sprocket, you can still use the original nut just turn it around so the recess part is to the outside. I will use a bit of thread lock on this as well as the lock tab. The rear end just needed 3mm off the outer spacer from the sprocket side that put the chain to within a couple of mm, I could and will if needed turn the sprocket around to gain a bit more from the recess on the sprocket and because of the s arm having some taken off it to fit the frame the wheel is within 1mm of centre. So not a bad day and I get to keep my 190 tyre. Just need to make a small spacer caliper side and make the rectangular lug bigger by about 5mm in depth (it stands out on the bracket and locates in the s arm in place of a torque arm)
Russ- have you refitted the sprocket cover yet with your Counter Shaft sprocket spacer in? I had to switch to a cover from the XJR with a little bit of grinding to nip off the top corner of it for easy of mounting and removal. The XJR cover has about 5MM more space behind it and allows the off set sprocket condition. You will need the XJR clutch push rod too - again 5mm (or so) longer. Randy at RPM had this kit ready for me and it kept the whole conversion looking very factory.
Tim
Not had a look at the cover yet so could be something to look at next to get anything I might need. Thanks for the heads up Russ
Had a look at the front sprocket, added a 3.5mm spacer to the rear of it and retained the tab washer, rear end simply reversed the sprocket so the relief is to the inside, over the distance between front and rear sprockets looking at quite a bit less than 2mm ... that should be fine.
Now the cover, well, all looks to be ok! but what is the steel plate bolted to the inside? not taken it off yet to have a look. I think I should have clearance for the chain but until I get it I can take measurement from the old one as with this swing arm being about 2" longer I need a longer chain :wacko3: . I think 4 links would work but going to get 6 links just to be on the safe side, my old chain has 56 links so a 62 link will be on order asap. Please jump in and tell me if I am missing anything.
Steel plate is for protection if the chain wads up...Ankle saver .
you want to count your chain links again ....stock is 110 links.
Today's work was handle bars, got some 22mm ally with 3.2mm wall and decided to go with flat bars because of the size of the risers (handlebar holder onners) I have made. I wanted a bit of pull back so I put them in the bender at the centre to make a nice set of V bars, all good. Drilled the holes for the location lugs for switchgear matching the original FJ bars and job done. I find it strange that the switchgear have location lugs but not the brake or clutch? from an engineering / safety point of view should that not be the other way around? anyway they are on and pics to follow.
Quote from: Mark Olson on April 18, 2015, 03:44:52 PM
Steel plate is for protection if the chain wads up...Ankle saver .
you want to count your chain links again ....stock is 110 links.
lol I only counted one side :blush: and not that well by the sound of it :rofl: So would that take the chain I need to 122 links ? as for the steel plate
I did think it was for that but not sure
I don't know , You have the longer swingarm and I am sure there is a way to figure it out ..
I would ask Tim ...axiom-r cause he has that setup on his FJ. Try sending him a pm.
Or measure how many links is 2" and x2 then add that to the 110.
Russ, the FZ1 swingarm on mine is around the 2" longer mark also....... a 120 link chain will give you extra - just cut off what you don't need.
Harvy
Quote from: Harvy on April 18, 2015, 04:33:13 PM
Russ, the FZ1 swingarm on mine is around the 2" longer mark also....... a 120 link chain will give you extra - just cut off what you don't need.
Harvy
That's my thought exactly, for the cost of a couple or so links buy extra junk what you don't need.
ok back to the handle bars, these are the one's I have made
The good thing with the risers (handlebar holder onners) being a single m12 bolt fixing they can turn :smile: so I can get nice straight bars but with a few degrees of pull back ! I did try bending others but the flying 'v' is the one I like. The mop on the end of the bar is lesson learned from to many knocks on the head :dash2: In the last photo is the start of the making of my mirrors.
Another part of the mirrors roughing out stage on the mill and another view of the front with headlight just placed into position and the dark screen. Not sure about screens I have this one and a iridium screen, will take photos of both and put them to the vote.
Russ, is that the remains of a Monster I see on the floor on the lhs of the FJ?
Harvy
Quote from: Harvy on April 22, 2015, 06:07:48 AM
Russ, is that the remains of a Monster I see on the floor on the lhs of the FJ?
Harvy
Well spotted Harvy it is indeed, it is another of my projects I wanted to make a copper but with an alternative v twin hence the Ducati. I have made the swing arm to take a 10.5 inch wide rear wheel that has a 310 tyre fitted the front end I am making a springer set up for it. Work kind of got put on the back burner when the FJ arrived, that's not such a bad thing because it gives me time to think about other mods that would suit a Ducati Monster Chopper :smile: (DMC just realised)
FJ is going well just invested in a 25l parts wash for on the bench, works well. So back to the build, I am making my own mirror bases and stems / arms but can't find any nice mirror heads to go with them, I did see on ebay a while ago some mirror plastic sheet approx A4 you cut to fit! Might have to find something like and make my own mirror heads.
Really enjoying this build!!!!!Love the dual headlight set-up!
On with the build but took time out from the headache stuff and started a bit of polishing, these were so bad I had to start with 120g on the sander! then 240g and 400g onto the buff. They still need more work but it's a start. Then we have a photo of my trusty buff :mocking: it's just a 3/4hp motor with a pigtail on it but it works, just clamp it in the vice and way to go. The last photo are the Michelin tyres for the FJ, can't wait to try them out on the open road. Next I will get some photos of mirrors so far but do I like them ... :unknown:
The mirrors, they need more polishing but that can be done when all the machining work has bee done.
Quote from: Harvy on April 22, 2015, 06:07:48 AM
Russ, is that the remains of a Monster I see on the floor on the lhs of the FJ?
Harvy
Just found these photos of the Monster just before the FJ was put up on the work bench. Poor old Monster kicked of and work stopped ..... but not for too much longer (I hope)
Russ,
I'm enjoying your projects from afar!
I'm a burnt-out computer guy who's now working in a machine shop environment. (fish outta water, certainly) Lots of things new to me that many old-timers to the trade take for granted. I stand in awe of the beauty and magic that can be performed by an expert.
:hi:
Hats off to you.
Steve
Quote from: Steve_in_Florida on April 26, 2015, 09:13:46 AM
Russ,
I'm enjoying your projects from afar!
I'm a burnt-out computer guy who's now working in a machine shop environment. (fish outta water, certainly) Lots of things new to me that many old-timers to the trade take for granted. I stand in awe of the beauty and magic that can be performed by an expert.
:hi:
Hats off to you.
Steve
Many thanks Steve, messages like yours are massively appreciated they help me so much, and mean a great deal to me. (Still fighting the ongoing battle with depression) I don't think I am in anyway an expert but I try :smile: and some of the best times are when I get to help other folk or just make them smile
Holy snappin duck shit Russ.......... that back tyre is wider than the whole of the rest of the bike!
Be great for the old straight Roman roads - not much fun on the winding back roads.
You know you have a doppleganger over here - your Avatar image bears a very strong resemblance to our mate Ken here in SE Qld .
Enjoying your work - keep the posts coming.
Cheers
Harvy
Today it was time to look at the exhaust, the originals had seen better days (years) so when these come along for £50 I just had to have them. After a few cuts grinds and a bit of mig they fit, my only concern is they might be a bit quiet but that can be put right after no problem. Did a bit more work to the rims as well so they are ready for paint, they will be polished with gold centers to match the forks. At the same time of painting the wheels I will do the plastics as well then I can clear coat all parts together.
Started to think about the paint today and what graphics to put on to brake up the block colour and add a bit of interest. The main colour is to be Triumph Pimento Red, It's a colour that goes back to the seventies and it's the colour I painted my Ford Pop (will find a photo). So back to the FJ the bits that are red in the photo are going to be gold like the front forks, the wheels have polished rims & centre rib but the rest will be painted the same gold. In the last photo just looking to see how the side plate clears exhaust and things.
Very nice indeed Russ, you've got some mad skills!
Quote from: Paul1965 on April 29, 2015, 06:29:05 PM
Very nice indeed Russ, you've got some mad skills!
:wacko3: me mad :wacko3: might be
I'm impressed!
Love the grafted fairing. Really gives it a unique look! :good2:
Those pipes look like Kawi Z1000?
Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Quote from: Firehawk068 on April 30, 2015, 04:02:25 PM
I'm impressed!
Love the grafted fairing. Really gives it a unique look! :good2:
Those pipes look like Kawi Z1000?
Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Well spotted Mr Firehawk they are indeed Kawasaki Z1000. Not a fan of 4 into 1 and whereas this is not quite 4 into 4 more like 4 2 4 I do like the look of them especially from the rear.
Keep the FJ porn coming i love it!!!!! :good:
Quote from: Russfjr1 on May 01, 2015, 04:23:54 AM
Quote from: Firehawk068 on April 30, 2015, 04:02:25 PM
I'm impressed!
Love the grafted fairing. Really gives it a unique look! :good2:
Those pipes look like Kawi Z1000?
Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Well spotted Mr Firehawk they are indeed Kawasaki Z1000. Not a fan of 4 into 1 and whereas this is not quite 4 into 4 more like 4 2 4 I do like the look of them especially from the rear.
I think it looks awesome with those pipes on there.
Well done! :good:
Quote from: Russfjr1 on April 29, 2015, 01:21:06 PM
Started to think about the paint today and what graphics to put on to brake up the block colour and add a bit of interest. The main colour is to be Triumph Pimento Red, It's a colour that goes back to the seventies and it's the colour I painted my Ford Pop (will find a photo). So back to the FJ the bits that are red in the photo are going to be gold like the front forks, the wheels have polished rims & centre rib but the rest will be painted the same gold. In the last photo just looking to see how the side plate clears exhaust and things.
This is (was) my Ford Pop started building it when I was fifteen got it on the road just after my seventeenth birthday. The photo was taken at the NEC Birmingham
sorry didn't load so trying again
Hi Russ,
Not sure if my reply to the Pm went through....here is my project. The shock/linkage stuff is on page 6. I lost bunch of photos messing with flickr but the ones you are looking for are there.
Jeff
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=10668.msg112641#msg112641 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=10668.msg112641#msg112641)
Change of plan on the wheels, they have gone red! with a fine gold flake and .......... I like em :yahoo:
Unbelievably the photo of my Ford Pop (above a bit) and the photo of the wheel show totally different colours yet they are both Triumph Pimento Red. Admittedly the photo of the Pop is thirty something years old now, think I was eighteen or nineteen when it was at the NEC ... happy days
Russ i didnt realise your in the uk. Ive just started down the cbr lights route apart from im making a surround to tie the vents in. That looks really cool im in essex id love to come down/up see the beasty in person. Are u on the fj uk facebook page?
hi Russ,
just stumbled through your thread and hooked in - just love the fairing; great work!
Maybe I should try to get something like this, hoping our beloved TÜV-guys wouldn't care about...
looking forward to see the finished bike.
btw, I am a little bit envious about the biking area you live in; been through Shrewsbury recently on the way to Pwllheli and loved it.
Greetz Jo
Hi to all who have been following my build, sorry I have not posted anything for some months now but have had a bit of a crap time with my depression and done nothing to the project :negative:. Hopefully that is in the past now and very soon I can get on with the FJ :good:. When any significant progress has happened I will post it. Thanks for all the comments so far I really do appreciate them, if anyone passing needs a coffee you are more than welcome to call in. Russ :drinks:
Quote from: Russfjr1 on August 31, 2015, 04:38:56 AM
Hi to all who have been following my build, sorry I have not posted anything for some months now but have had a bit of a crap time with my depression and done nothing to the project :negative:. Hopefully that is in the past now and very soon I can get on with the FJ :good:. When any significant progress has happened I will post it. Thanks for all the comments so far I really do appreciate them, if anyone passing needs a coffee you are more than welcome to call in. Russ :drinks:
I am not much of a coffee drinker but if I could I would stop by anyway. I am enjoying your posts and looking forward to seeing what happens next. Keep the posts coming, I like your work...
Just caught up to this thread. Don't frequent the Mod threads very often as I can't afford it, nor have the facilities or skill (yet?). But Russ you got me hooked. :good:
I wish I was your neighbour. Mind you, you probably would end up wishing I wasn't, as you'd never get me out of your shed! But a steady supply of tea and biscuits..... (popcorn)
That dual headlight mod I find (like many others) is just fantastic. Does that fit to the stock FJ bracketry? That would be something that might start my "addiction".... :wacko1:
I will have to visit these threads more often. I can just hear the Mrs. now, "You're buying what!?" :ireful:
Well this crap stuff called depression really did take a turn for the worst, must be 12 months since doing anything on anything not just the two fj's ... But summer is here and I hope to get the fjr1 finished and on the road :good2: One good thing of leaving it 12 month at least the paint is hard enough to flat n buff.
I would like to come up with some time-old adage, but it would probably come across as a half-assed malapropism. :mail1: Keep plugging away at it. Looking forward to your results. (popcorn)
Quote from: Russfjr1 on April 16, 2015, 06:45:26 AM
Hi Copper just had a look at that set up and looks to have a multitude of possibilities. One difference on the later R1 which I have is the dog bone is wing arm side and triangles are mounted to the frame, however, that should not affect the way they work as long as you get the geometry right. I can see on Candieandy's set up the use of the adjustable dog bone with rose joints same as I have made but I can't see bearings for the bolts / pivot point for the triangle on the arm, possibly built into the spacer? I will have to ask.
Hey Russ,
My set-up is really incorrect in comparison to how Yamaha has designed the rear suspension on the R1. The OE and best leverage ratio is 2:1 for the R1. That means the shock moves twice as far as the rear swing arm travel. It took me some testing/research to figure it out. It works, but my leverage ratio is way off the chart. Like 2.6:1 or 3.2:1. so I bolted in a really nice SACHs shock ( from Aprilia RSV1000 Mille) and cranked the preload on a 1100Lb spring. Needless to say, the shock internals are stock and it handles it, but not as well as the original spring. it works fine for 1up, but 2up nearly bottoms out on really hard bumps. I'm actually planning to redesign it more like the set-up you are running and will report back.
Have you had a chance to do any testing yet on your suspension set-up?
Andrew
OK well after reaching rock bottom then time in hospital with a pulmonary embolism plus a load of other crap going on I think it's time to start on the fj again, went into the workshop everything covered in a foot of dust (well 1/8" possibly) so doors open start the compressor and blow it all away :good2: Wow just as I left it, tools and parts still left on the workbench from months ago now I have to try and figure out what I have done or not done. Right, first things first put kettle on make coffee and start work on the rear suspension ... dog bones and triangles with a 2 : 1 ratio, got myself a 6" x 12" x 1" billet of aluminium to make it all from time to measure, calculate, machine and see if it works. Post again soon Russ :bye2:
Good to see your back in the saddle again, so to speak. Looking forward to your progress. BTW - that's not dust - it's patina! :sarcastic: Stay healthy. :good2:
I just caught up with this thread Russ and am well impressed.
I like the work on the fairing - always wondered how a twin headlight set up could be
made to fit the Std fairing as I like the original lines and protection it offers.
Fantastic skills and imagination. Keep it going as it has to be the best way to stay above the black dog mate.
I hope to hear of it getting a maiden run out soon.
Keep up the compelling read :good2:
Quote from: FJools on October 05, 2016, 04:15:53 PM
I just caught up with this thread Russ and am well impressed.
I like the work on the fairing - always wondered how a twin headlight set up could be
made to fit the Std fairing as I like the original lines and protection it offers.
Fantastic skills and imagination. Keep it going as it has to be the best way to stay above the black dog mate.
I hope to hear of it getting a maiden run out soon.
Keep up the compelling read :good2:
Thanks for all the kind thoughts and comments
OK so over the past couple of days it's been scratching head thinking about the rear suspension linkage and this is what I have come up with, billet of aluminum (aircraft of course :sarcastic:) and a ratio of 2 : 1 ish take a look. It still needs finishing off but it's 25mm thick and the bearings being used are 24mm od with 12mm id one each side with spacer. Instead of having them sit in the alloy I have made two stainless bushes for them 1" od pipe bored out to 24mm, then I have a rose joint to attach to the swing arm this should take care of any misalignment issues, if not with it being 25mm I can afford to machine some off to gain alignment.
The other thing I have been working on is that with a few minor changes / adjustments I think I can get a 200 tyre on the back, the 6" rim will take it just a matter of playing with the chain again. Looking at the project it's not to far away from test ride and if that's all good strip it down paint the frame and motor finish the fairing mounts and it's on the road :yahoo: just in time for winter :dash2: oh well who said life was fair .... but it's ok we have global warming happy days. :drinks:
Question to others who have done this conversion, when doing the rear suspension linkages how far out of line were yours? frame and shock is a given to be good but the swing arm is out (to be somewhat expected). However it is only off by 6mm is this the norm? I thought it would be more! Anyway junking the rose joints and making a dog leg connecting arm with needle bearings, the rose joints after much looking, thinking, and the like I don't feel they would cope over time whereas needle rollers are made to do that job so I have kept it all inline and square (via dog leg). Again I have machined it from billet ally and the bearing are to be sitting in stainless inserts, mk1 will have no adjustment it's just going to be proof of concept, should it all work ok after the first few hundred miles it will be pulled and re-made but this time totally adjustable, at that time I will also re-make any other parts that I am not happy with. Talk soon Russ
The only comment I can come with, having not done this specific conversion, is that to prevent the bearings from pushing out of the plates with any unusual side loads they would be better being a blind fit to the outer faces. Could be a nasty consequence if they did move.
Quote from: FJools on October 16, 2016, 03:57:16 PM
The only comment I can come with, having not done this specific conversion, is that to prevent the bearings from pushing out of the plates with any unusual side loads they would be better being a blind fit to the outer faces. Could be a nasty consequence if they did move.
Sorry but i think I did not make it clear in order to maintain alignment I have made a dogleg arm this enables the forces pulling on the bearings to be at 90* (square) to the bearings at all times so never pulling one way or the other. I am not putting a straight arm with rose joints to make up for the alignment issue but as said a dogleg so all bearings have a even pull on them
First time rolled out of the workshop! Nothing is bolted down as yet but I needed it outside to stand back and take a good look and sit on it :yahoo: ride height good to the original rear suspension a bit hard but the preload can adjust for that, overall I think it looks ok. Get the paint finished, re-cover the seat, mount both sides of the exhaust so it will have four pipes at the rear, go over all the nuts and bolts then test ride :good2: . All easy said just waiting now for the next thing to hold me back. C'est la vie
The centre stand will need to be modified but that's an easy fix, in the photo looking down to the handle bars you can see it's on full lock to the left leaving loads of clearance between bars and fairing. The wheelbase and increased to 63" or 1600.2 cm and I think it looks good for that bit of extra length. Still loads to do apart from what I said above I need to modify the fairing / headlight brackets! Fun times ahead. Russ
I just leave center stand off... easy to bolt up for service if required.
Quote from: jscgdunn on October 18, 2016, 11:12:33 AM
I just leave center stand off... easy to bolt up for service if required.
I could just take it off but you can guarantee if I did that first time out I would need it, puncture or chain issues or anything else on the rear that having that stand would make life so much better. Besides it's only one more line to add to the list of things to be done :smile:
that will be line 1782 not really, in reality most of the work is done and if I could spend the time on it this could be on the road by Saturday / Sunday but so many other things make that impossible :cray:
Looking awesome Russ. :good2: Are those exhausts of a Kawi Z1000? I think you will need some custome decals like FJZCBR 1200 or YamaHondaKawa or something like that.
Quote from: Russfjr1 on October 19, 2016, 05:48:16 AM
Quote from: jscgdunn on October 18, 2016, 11:12:33 AM
I just leave center stand off... easy to bolt up for service if required.
I could just take it off but you can guarantee if I did that first time out I would need it, puncture or chain issues or anything else on the rear that having that stand would make life so much better.
I don't know how you ride Russ, but the stand is very limiting for clearance if you crank it over in the corners and how often have you actually needed it on the road?
IMO
Quote from: PaulG on October 19, 2016, 07:35:40 AM
Looking awesome Russ. :good2: Are those exhausts of a Kawi Z1000? I think you will need some custome decals like FJZCBR 1200 or YamaHondaKawa or something like that.
Those are indeed the exhaust from the Z1000 as for decals I better find a long bit of bodywork to get it all on :smile:
Quote from: ribbert on October 19, 2016, 08:06:37 AM
Quote from: Russfjr1 on October 19, 2016, 05:48:16 AM
Quote from: jscgdunn on October 18, 2016, 11:12:33 AM
I just leave center stand off... easy to bolt up for service if required.
I could just take it off but you can guarantee if I did that first time out I would need it, puncture or chain issues or anything else on the rear that having that stand would make life so much better.
I don't know how you ride Russ, but the stand is very limiting for clearance if you crank it over in the corners and how often have you actually needed it on the road?
IMO
Nothing like seeing a few sparks fly :good2: but we will see how it goes, would like to keep it but if it has to go then it's gone just like this :bye2: lol
I have no center stand on my FJ. A Snap Jack for the road, and a swing arm stand for the shop is all I need.
(http://thesnapjack.com/images/homemain.jpg)
Quote from: Pat Conlon on October 19, 2016, 11:29:42 AM
I have no center stand on my FJ. A Snap Jack for the road, and a swing arm stand for the shop is all I need.
(http://thesnapjack.com/images/homemain.jpg)
not seen a "snap jack" do we have them in the UK?? I will take a look...... I like the idea.
Quote from: Russfjr1 on October 19, 2016, 03:41:44 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on October 19, 2016, 11:29:42 AM
I have no center stand on my FJ. A Snap Jack for the road, and a swing arm stand for the shop is all I need.
(http://thesnapjack.com/images/homemain.jpg)
not seen a "snap jack" do we have them in the UK?? I will take a look...... I like the idea.
Well yes we do on ebay about £50 ish. Need to take a good look and make my own :drinks:
making my own works for me :smile:
Well there you go....
Be sure to turn your front wheel all the way to the left and wrap a velcro strap around your brake lever, holding it in tight.
After all this time has passed and not even had the fj on the road yet I am beginning to question my choice of colour :scratch_one-s_head: being out in the orange Lamborghini I am thinking it might be nice on the fj
It's close to the Kawasaki orange depending on your screen, I have often thought about putting my XK8 in this colour, if I did both it might look a bit over the top on the drive :unknown:
I think those exhaust have "coloured" your judgement slightly LOL
I really liked sharppi's from Finland pearlescent blue.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=15137.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=15137.0)
But there's always the stalwart British Racing Green (http://gtcarlot.com/colors/car/15781803-2.html)
or Chrome Orange (http://gtcarlot.com/colors/car/11532079-4.html)
or Magnetic Blue (http://gtcarlot.com/colors/car/20810102-4.html)
or.... sorry got carried away. :blush: If you noticed they're all Lotus Elises. The first thing I get when my lotto comes in. I guess having too many options is better than none at all. :biggrin: Whatever you pick I'm certain it will fit the bill. :good:
Really enjoyed reading that Rus, what are you up to now?
Quote from: Russfjr1 on October 05, 2016, 08:05:27 AM
OK well after reaching rock bottom then time in hospital with a pulmonary embolism plus a load of other crap going on I think it's time to start on the fj again, went into the workshop everything covered in a foot of dust (well 1/8" possibly) so doors open start the compressor and blow it all away :good2: Wow just as I left it, tools and parts still left on the workbench from months ago now I have to try and figure out what I have done or not done. Right, first things first put kettle on make coffee and start work on the rear suspension ... dog bones and triangles with a 2 : 1 ratio, got myself a 6" x 12" x 1" billet of aluminium to make it all from time to measure, calculate, machine and see if it works. Post again soon Russ :bye2:
Is it really that long ago that I said I was going to start the project again.... well I did start the dog bones and triangles and they are fitted but in reality that's about as far as I got.
Fighting an ongoing battle with depression, it's so strange how I can talk about it yet not be able to do anything about it. I would love to get back in the workshop and start working again and one day I will just not today. Just re reading my write up and all the kind words so many of you have written about the work so far, it helps, it helps a lot. Getting into winter now so lets see how it goes, but again a very big thank you for all the kind words.
Sending out good thoughts to you Russ :drinks:
Welcome as always! I like reading this build and seeing your skills put to excellent use in the shop. I think I like this build because it retains the character of the FJ while molding it to fit your personality.
Best wishes for you and hope you can whittle out some progress!
Good to hear from you Russ. Watching your build (and others) is great motivation for me. Something I am usually in dire need of. Keep up the amazing work your doing. :good2:
Hi to all just got a set of the later 5 spoke R1 wheels so the wheels on the bike might be for sale, I say might as I am torn between the 3 spokes and the 5 :scratch_one-s_head: The 3 spoke does have more of the original FJ12 look to them but the 5's just the bit more modern. To be honest I am leaning towards the 3 spoke just because of the original look to them but having seen the 5's on a FJ12 they do look good. :dash2: :wacko2: Any thoughts from anyone? Russ
ps be quick my head is starting to hurt.
Put them on a scale (I'm curious)...and go with the lightest wheels (which is going to the the newer 5 spoke wheels)
http://www.hardracing.com/Rims/WheelWeightInfo.htm (http://www.hardracing.com/Rims/WheelWeightInfo.htm)
OK so a few years on and not much has happened due to an unbelievable amount of crap going on, have bought the Ducati but apart from that nothing. Did I say I sold the FJ1100? well, I did and then bought it back! I have to finish this FJ12 I really want to see on on the road. I do have some spares if anyone is interested like the 3 spokes as I think I will be using the 5 spokes, will have to see. As soon as I get my backside moving I will post some photos. Thanks all
Good to see you post again Russ, some pics would be good when you think they would be interesting.
:hi:.... waiting.... (popcorn) Good to hear from you. Thought you might have been buidling a Brexit survival shelter all this time. Been waiting for the big reveal for a while now. Keep it going!
Thanks for checking in Russ :hi:
OK so still not much done as health and mind get in the way but I still like reading what you lt have done :yes: I will get either my fj12 or fj11 done just might take a bit more time
Are you looking to focus on the 11 or the 12 first?
Really like the 12 project!
OK so nothing done to the bike (or any bike) for god knows how long all down to bad health ... So :Facepalm: I am selling everything the FJR1EXUP complete with everything in the photos, have a read you might be interested, the FJ11 I have (stock) this comes with other parts as well including fairing infill panels, a Ducati ST2 with panniers, heated grips and other things. Ducati 600m chopped but not much else done, very early stages of making a chopper or you could get another frame and swingarm and put it back to standard. Any interest give me a shout, it will all be going on eBay sometime soon.
Whilst in lockdown I have come to realise if I am not able to get my arse in gear now I never will and with my spine problems chances are I will not ride a bike again so it's all going to go.
That's sad to hear Russ. Your work is inspiring. But your health is always #1. Good luck and take care. :drinks:
Quote from: PaulG on May 23, 2020, 08:21:55 PM
That's sad to hear Russ. Your work is inspiring. But your health is always #1. Good luck and take care. :drinks:
Well 7 years on from the start of this project and still not complete thanks to health problems and now divorce so it's all up for grabs, the FJ1100 as well.
Very sad times but it is what it is.
Russ