Hi Guys.
Has anyone fitted an aux fuel tank / fuel cell to their FJ ? I am taking part in a long distance rally ( http://www.tt2000.org/index.html (http://www.tt2000.org/index.html) ) next month and thinking I may set the FJ up for some extended range.
Any ideas and pictures would be appreciated
Cheers Phil
Quote from: biggo on January 16, 2015, 02:22:24 AM
Hi Guys.
Has anyone fitted an aux fuel tank / fuel cell to their FJ ? I am taking part in a long distance rally ( http://www.tt2000.org/index.html (http://www.tt2000.org/index.html) ) next month and thinking I may set the FJ up for some extended range.
Any ideas and pictures would be appreciated
Cheers Phil
I do a lot of trips in remote areas and years ago briefly considered adding some sort of auxiliary fuel supply. I weighed up the work and cost involved and the space used against the amount of use it would get and quickly realised it wasn't justified.
I opted for these, no installation required, relatively cheap, easy to pack and the great thing is, when I don't need them, which is most of the time, I'm not packing them.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5329/7096129631_18a539cbef_c.jpg)
This is an 8 litre and a 12 litre bag. They nearly double my range to about 650 kms. Not too many places you can't get fuel for 650 kms. If riding slab it would be further.
These are aviation grade fuel cells and have proven to be near indestructible.
Noel
Neat looking product there Noel. Do you have a make or link you could provide? My google search for "fuel cell bag" gets me this: http://shop.ju-ju-be.com/fuel-cell/, (http://shop.ju-ju-be.com/fuel-cell/,) but I don't think the zipper will contain the petro (and they didn't have anything with a pink stripe).
Thanks
John
Quote from: Dads_FJ on January 16, 2015, 07:37:37 AM
Neat looking product there Noel. Do you have a make or link you could provide? My google search for "fuel cell bag" gets me this: http://shop.ju-ju-be.com/fuel-cell/, (http://shop.ju-ju-be.com/fuel-cell/,) but I don't think the zipper will contain the petro (and they didn't have anything with a pink stripe).
Thanks
John
Sorry John, it's very late at night here and I should have used the right terminology. They are called "fuel
BLADDERS"Google that at you will find them everywhere, they even have a search for motorbike specific units.
Noel
Quote from: Dads_FJ on January 16, 2015, 07:37:37 AM
Neat looking product there Noel. Do you have a make or link you could provide? My google search for "fuel cell bag" gets me this: http://shop.ju-ju-be.com/fuel-cell/, (http://shop.ju-ju-be.com/fuel-cell/,) but I don't think the zipper will contain the petro (and they didn't have anything with a pink stripe).
Thanks
John
John, Mike Ramos carries extra fuel for his long rides. Perhaps he will post up where he got his fuel bladders.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=11790.msg117274#msg117274 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=11790.msg117274#msg117274)
Those fuel bladders look very helpful.
Here is a link to a company that builds small aluminum fuel tanks, block valves & quick disconnects: http://www.coyotetanks.com (http://www.coyotetanks.com)
At the bottom of this "Clearance Sale" page is an approximately 4 gallon tank for $60 : http://www.coyotetanks.com/clearance.html (http://www.coyotetanks.com/clearance.html)
Good luck.
My bladder capacity/ mileage is currently slightly smaller than the tank on the bike. This does not seem to be improving with age.
Not sure if I see the benefit of the additional fuel without somehow increasing the capacity of my bladder.
Bill, maybe you need to do like Mike Ramos & carry an additional auxiliary tank! :i_am_so_happy:
What do they call that? Cathater ???
I thought this might come in handy for dirt-biking, looks a lot easier to pack/carry than a plastic can and more universal than just purchasing an oversize tank.
Quote from: the fan on January 16, 2015, 08:54:15 AM
My bladder capacity/ mileage is currently slightly smaller than the tank on the bike. This does not seem to be improving with age.
Not sure if I see the benefit of the additional fuel without somehow increasing the capacity of my bladder.
Damn that's funny but unfortunately so true in my case also. Dave
Me too, frequently. But you can still stop to pee, even if you aren't close to the nearest gas station.
Quote from: simi_ed on January 16, 2015, 09:12:58 AM
Bill, maybe you need to do like Mike Ramos & carry an additional auxiliary tank! :i_am_so_happy:
What do they call that? Cathater ???
A Texas catheter connected to a hose running down your pant leg, poking out below your boot.
(http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/External_urine_collection_device%23/image/File:Cewnik_zewnetrzny_0211.jpg)
I will pass on the catheter thank you very much....
as far as extra fuel goes, a local guy had a pair of 5 gallon jerry cans mounted to his KLR. It lookes pretty cool, esp with the OD green paint on the bike.
If ya got time to pee, you got time to dump gas...
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 16, 2015, 10:09:50 AM
A Texas catheter connected to a hose running down your pant leg, poking out below your boot.
That's environmentally irresponsible. Just run the tube down to a CamelBak bladder velcro'd to your leg.
Quote from: rlucas on January 16, 2015, 12:35:17 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 16, 2015, 10:09:50 AM
A Texas catheter connected to a hose running down your pant leg, poking out below your boot.
That's environmentally irresponsible. Just run the tube down to a CamelBak bladder velcro'd to your leg.
+1 but when I get that old I will be to old to ride. :biggrin: Dave
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 16, 2015, 10:09:50 AM
Quote from: simi_ed on January 16, 2015, 09:12:58 AM
Bill, maybe you need to do like Mike Ramos & carry an additional auxiliary tank! :i_am_so_happy:
What do they call that? Cathater ???
A Texas catheter connected to a hose running down your pant leg, poking out below your boot.
(http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/External_urine_collection_device%23/image/File:Cewnik_zewnetrzny_0211.jpg)
I thought that was called a Peeto (pitot) tube :rofl2:
Quote from: the fan on January 16, 2015, 08:54:15 AM
My bladder capacity/ mileage is currently slightly smaller than the tank on the bike. This does not seem to be improving with age.
Not sure if I see the benefit of the additional fuel without somehow increasing the capacity of my bladder.
For me it's not about not stopping, but fuel availability. I don't think it's healthy/safe to ride more than a tankful without a break, even a short one, anyway. The lost time is more than made up for by being refreshed and focused again. Riding a bike continuously is far more demanding than driving and you need to regularly break the cycle (before you break the bike)
Some of suggestions here are getting a little complicated, you did say this was for a one-off event? You need to balance up the effort and cost against the amount of use it's going to get.
If it's just for one event you could simply do something like this making very sure there is nothing likely to puncture them or rub through with vibrations and movement. Just pack them out with a couple of old heavily folded towels. I have done this myself many times before getting the proper bladders.
(http://www.motorcycledaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/082911top-i.jpg)
Search Google Images for "Motorbike fuel bladders" and you will see all sorts of ideas for cheap ways to carry extra fuel.
Noel