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Title: The Karma Bank
Post by: FJ_Hooligan on October 23, 2014, 07:57:46 PM
A little deposit for the Karma Bank for me yesterday.

I was refueling and noticed a bike parked over by the air/water dispenser.  I didn't see the rider anywhere but there were also a few cars around.  I was wondering if he was having a tire problem and was going to go over there after I finished getting that last 0.2 gallon of gas in the tank.

Just as I was finishing I hear "Excuse me sir?" (I hate that!) 
"I have a flat tire and was wondering if you have any plugs?"

I replied "yes" since I always carry my Stop&Go Pocket Tire Plugger.

He had already found the hole so it only took me about 20 seconds to install the plug.  He was amazed at how easy it was, thanked me several times (since he was still 30 miles from home) and even offered me money (which I refused). 

Hopefully he will ride safe and pay it forward.
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: FJmonkey on October 23, 2014, 08:03:40 PM
That was the right thing to do, good on you mate...
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Pat Conlon on October 23, 2014, 09:06:38 PM
Yep, good on ya! I always keep mine in my tail piece.

The Stop&Go mushroom plugs works great for the straight thru punctures
...however, for the rare diagonal punctures, I found that the traditional red rope works best, so I carry both.

Gotta love those tubeless tires.....

....those Harley guys are SOL when it comes time to fix a flat out in the middle of BFE.
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Firehawk068 on October 23, 2014, 09:15:04 PM
Great Job Hooligan!
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Capn Ron on October 23, 2014, 10:10:17 PM
Quote from: Firehawk068 on October 23, 2014, 09:15:04 PM
Great Job Hooligan!
+1

I was on a ride with the Monkey and a group of Angeles Crest riders a while back.  One of the guys hit a rock on his Ducatti and bent the front rim to the point where the tire was leaking air badly.  My inner-Mcguyver kicked in immediately.  The rim was toast, but if we could beat it back into shape with a rock the tire would probably hold air.  NO ONE had a compressor...or a Co2 cartridge...  He ended up walking to higher ground, calling the Ducatti dealer...who sent a van out two hours later...at the cost of about $300...  ALL for the lack of an air compressor.  I now carry an air compressor and puncture plugs...maybe for me...mostly for the other folks I ride with.
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: bcguide on October 23, 2014, 11:48:47 PM
I like to carry a  double acting bike pump is small light and works well
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: roverfj1200 on October 24, 2014, 01:51:39 AM
 :good2: :drinks:
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Tiger on October 24, 2014, 04:21:06 AM
Top drawer mate... :good2:

I carry tire strings, insertion tool and a 12v air compressor in my top box...should help out in most situations :biggrin:

John.
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: motohorseman on October 24, 2014, 04:45:27 AM
Someone once told me that is you mention it, it does not count.

What was "karma" becomes "brag" and mentioned this makes me a "rag" or something along those lines

:mocking:
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: andyoutandabout on October 24, 2014, 10:24:56 AM
Yep, make the world a better place by investing in the Karma Bank.
My buddy and I were rattling down the 101 last weekend in his pick-up, when we spied a couple on a BMW sat by the side of the road.
Flipped around to find out they'd run out of gas. What? on a BMW; they hold about 8 gallons!!!
Anyway, we must have appeared as generally good characters since the guy elected to stay with the bike and let his wife ride with us the 10 miles down to Laytonville.
Feel the BMW love.
Andy
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Bminder on October 24, 2014, 12:22:56 PM
You reap what you sow.
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: motohorseman on October 24, 2014, 12:30:30 PM
Quote from: Bminder on October 24, 2014, 12:22:56 PM
You reap what you sow.

We've all seen some truly evil POS do very, very well for themselves in the business world.

They keep taking advantage of and abusing people and keep moving ahead in their quest for money and power.

Time for me to STFU.....
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Country Joe on October 24, 2014, 12:39:27 PM
Quote from: Bminder on October 24, 2014, 12:22:56 PM
You reap what you sow.

Quoted for truth.

Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Burns on October 24, 2014, 01:34:32 PM
Quote from: motohorseman on October 24, 2014, 12:30:30 PM
Quote from: Bminder on October 24, 2014, 12:22:56 PM
You reap what you sow.

We've all seen some truly evil POS do very, very well for themselves in the business world.

They keep taking advantage of and abusing people and keep moving ahead in their quest for money and power.

Time for me to STFU.....

maybe its gettin' near time for some reapin'
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: rlucas on October 24, 2014, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: Bminder on October 24, 2014, 12:22:56 PM
You reap what you sow.


Sow far.


Sow good.
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Bminder on October 24, 2014, 02:30:31 PM
Quote from: rlucas on October 24, 2014, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: Bminder on October 24, 2014, 12:22:56 PM
You reap what you sow.


Sow far.


Sow good.

Oooo, that's good! I'm going to steal that!

.
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Bminder on October 24, 2014, 02:31:41 PM
Quote from: motohorseman on October 24, 2014, 12:30:30 PM
Quote from: Bminder on October 24, 2014, 12:22:56 PM
You reap what you sow.

We've all seen some truly evil POS do very, very well for themselves in the business world.

They keep taking advantage of and abusing people and keep moving ahead in their quest for money and power.

Time for me to STFU.....

No, you're right. I see it happen too.
But the day ain't over yet, and no one escapes the Law of the Harvest - You reap what you sow.
Their day is comin'.
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: FJ_Hooligan on October 24, 2014, 05:36:26 PM
Quote from: motohorseman on October 24, 2014, 04:45:27 AM
Someone once told me that is you mention it, it does not count.

What was "karma" becomes "brag" and mentioned this makes me a "rag" or something along those lines

You're right, I was bragging.  It was a very nice feeling to help a younger and obviously more inexperienced rider.  I could tell he was grateful for his chance encounter and I was more than happy to share my knowledge and equipment to help him out of a bad and potentially expensive situation.

Just thought I would share those feelings.  But maybe not...
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Burns on October 24, 2014, 05:41:39 PM
brag, rag, drag.

don't be trollish children.
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: motohorseman on October 24, 2014, 06:27:28 PM
Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on October 24, 2014, 05:36:26 PM
Quote from: motohorseman on October 24, 2014, 04:45:27 AM
Someone once told me that is you mention it, it does not count.

What was "karma" becomes "brag" and mentioned this makes me a "rag" or something along those lines

You're right, I was bragging.  It was a very nice feeling to help a younger and obviously more inexperienced rider.  I could tell he was grateful for his chance encounter and I was more than happy to share my knowledge and equipment to help him out of a bad and potentially expensive situation.

Just thought I would share those feelings.  But maybe not...

Maybe, maybe not, we're human.

Try this experiment.

Give without questioning why you give, whatever it is, like you have already proven you can do.

But say nothing to anyone, and thank who or whatever you want for being able to do whatever it was you did.

And wait.


See if you experience that same good karma mutliplied many times over, and be grateful.

Repeat

:)

It's good

Read nothing to the contrary into it, my apologies if I offended you.

I'm far from being anywhere close to perfect.....
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: simi_ed on October 24, 2014, 06:46:23 PM
David, good job!  No bragging perceived on this end.


Ed
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: FJ_Hooligan on October 24, 2014, 09:47:02 PM
Quote from: motohorseman on October 24, 2014, 06:27:28 PM
Maybe, maybe not, we're human.

Try this experiment.

Give without questioning why you give, whatever it is, like you have already proven you can do.

But say nothing to anyone, and thank who or whatever you want for being able to do whatever it was you did.

And wait.


See if you experience that same good karma mutliplied many times over, and be grateful.

Repeat

:)

It's good

Read nothing to the contrary into it, my apologies if I offended you.

I'm far from being anywhere close to perfect.....

Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: ribbert on October 24, 2014, 10:59:47 PM
Quote from: motohorseman on October 24, 2014, 04:45:27 AM
Someone once told me that is you mention it, it does not count.

What was "karma" becomes "brag" and mentioned this makes me a "rag" or something along those lines

:mocking:

By making this point, aren't you assuming the moral high ground and therefore bragging yourself? :biggrin:

Noel
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: ken65 on October 24, 2014, 11:51:23 PM
Good onya FJ, these days a lot of people won't even give you the time of day.

This young fella will tell his mates the story how the older bloke fixed his flat tyre with the blink of an eye.

He might go and buy a kit like yours and one day he may be able to fix some ones flat tyre. Just like you did for him.

ken

Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: scotiafj on October 25, 2014, 05:35:03 AM
Quote from: ken65 on October 24, 2014, 11:51:23 PM
Good onya FJ, these days a lot of people won't even give you the time of day.

This young fella will tell his mates the story how the older bloke fixed his flat tyre with the blink of an eye.

He might go and buy a kit like yours and one day he may be able to fix some ones flat tyre. Just like you did for him.

ken

Exactly..  We are all brothers of the road no matter what we ride I'd always stop for another biker ... :yes:



Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: motohorseman on October 25, 2014, 06:48:48 AM
Quote from: ribbert on October 24, 2014, 10:59:47 PM
Quote from: motohorseman on October 24, 2014, 04:45:27 AM
Someone once told me that is you mention it, it does not count.

What was "karma" becomes "brag" and mentioned this makes me a "rag" or something along those lines

:mocking:

By making this point, aren't you assuming the moral high ground and therefore bragging yourself? :biggrin:

Noel

Noel, it does not matter what I think. And if that is what you want to assume, you have that right, for sure.

Just as I have the right to quote Johnny Cash, may be rest in peace -

:blum1:
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Bminder on October 25, 2014, 10:02:54 AM
.
Harley riders don't wave.
I wonder what Karma thinks about that.
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: motohorseman on October 25, 2014, 10:16:47 AM
Quote from: Bminder on October 25, 2014, 10:02:54 AM
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Harley riders don't wave.
I wonder what Karma thinks about that.

We (wife, kids) used to ride scooters all around - St. Joe is a slow, mid-western town without a lot of traffic.

Honda Metropolitan's, 1st generation, water-cooled - and my son, a Ruckus.

Great fun.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t317/UJMsRule/Scootering/Zcorner.jpg)

I'll never forget, one Harley rider went out of his way to flip me off.

Probably the only time he was on the faster bike and able to get away......
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: FJmonkey on October 25, 2014, 10:17:16 AM
This Karma thing is a little confusing. Doing good now pays off in a future existence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma.) I like the concept, in fact I find it motivating. But since I am in the present time and place, I like to think that doing good to others is more like a "Pay It Forward" plan. Telling others that you did a favor and helped a fellow rider is just one more way to encourage others to do the same. Doing good things and helping others needs a stronger marketing team, a better sales push, more membership!!! I don't care who gets the credit, just do the right thing when you are at task.... When in doubt, help out....
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: aviationfred on October 25, 2014, 10:50:07 AM
Very well said Monkey. Each and every one of us has to put yourself in the position the guy that hooligan helped. We can not expect to get a helping hand from 90% of cager drivers. We HAVE to look out for each other, regardless of whether the rider is on an FJ, Sportbike, Harley, or Japanese cruiser.

Here is a situation that I helped with coming home from this years Central FJ Rally. I saw a couple of sport bikes sitting on the shoulder of the  highway and the riders were all grouped around one bike. I pulled over to see if they needed any assistance. The riders had been stopped by the police and one rider kept his documents under the passenger seat. Upon putting everything back under the seat, he had dropped his key with the documents and latched the seat down. I offered the use of tools that i had and they were able to get into the tail section too retrieve the key.

As in the opening post. The riders were all in their early 20's and IMO no cager was going to stop to help any sport bike riders. Just as I got there they were ready to call a tow truck to haul the bike back home. They were saved a $100.00 and the possibility of the tow truck damaging the bike.

This story is not to brag of my good deed. It is to remind each of us that WE LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER, and help with whatever we have the ability to do.

Fred
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: The General on October 25, 2014, 12:29:39 PM
I think my account is with Lehman Brothers!    :dash1:
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Pat Conlon on October 25, 2014, 12:55:19 PM
Well said Mark and Fred...

We are ambassadors.

When we help other bikers, they may not remember our names, but they *always* remember our bikes.
The young rider thinking to himself "that guy on the FJ was cool..."

It's good to share stories about helping other folks
1) it sets an example
2) it teaches us a lesson (e.g. always carry a flat kit)
3) it makes us feel good

We've had enough negative bullshit on this forum lately, that I find Hooli and Fred's story refreshing.
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Firehawk068 on October 25, 2014, 01:22:45 PM
I fully agree!
I don't believe Hooligan's thought to post up his good deed constitutes bragging in any way...................and shouldn't be construed as such....

He felt good about selflessly helping someone else, and wanted to share the good vibes with the group  :good:

I would probably do the same.........Not to get any sort of recognition out of it, but merely to remind people that good deeds do exist........
I'm sure we could all use more positive energy in our lives.........................Some, more than others it seems......... :drinks:
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: The General on October 26, 2014, 05:51:38 AM
A little deposit from me today.  I took my Pig for a ride.

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/7/630_26_10_14_2_42_52_4.jpeg)

Also took my drinks bitch!

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/7/630_26_10_14_2_42_49_3.jpeg)

A few mates were there.

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/7/630_26_10_14_2_42_39_0.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/7/630_26_10_14_2_42_46_2.jpeg)

200klm ride that raised over $7000 dollars for Breast cancer Care......

Felt Good, Had Fun.     :drinks:

Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: giantkiller on October 26, 2014, 09:48:43 AM
Here's a  story. I had just got my 86 running. And rode down to the ECFR. Had some problems and had lots of help from everyone at the rally.

On the way home. In Kentucky I stopped for gas. Existing the station I had to stop at the top of a steep incline for traffic. Put my foot down next thing I know I'm doing the splits with my bike laying over under me. Let it down as soft as I could. (Scratched my brand new givi case)
Got bike back up in a flash. Started right up. But was only running on a couple of cylinders. ( hind sight I think that it was a couple of stuck floats) rode it over the overpass thinking it might clear up, didn't. Pulled into auto zone under the light and started taking it apart. Crap they were closing. Out walk the employees. And one walks over to an 86 Fj just like mine (I didn't see it cause I was trying to figure out what was wrong with mine) The guy looks over and laughs starts his bike and rides off.

I can't figure it out but keep trying. Then a family that was eating at long John silvers. Comes over to help. Drive five miles and back to get the tools they have. I finally gave up. They said I could sleep on their clutch. I didn't want to leave my bike 5miles away. Turns out there are motels a block away, and a block in the other direction,is a small bike shop. They tell me. I rode my sputtering bike to the motel. Got up in the morning and bike ran fine.

Family of cagers spent several hours trying to help me out. Fellow fjer just laughed at me and rode away.
Even if I couldn't help out I still would have come over to see what's up.
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: motohorseman on October 26, 2014, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: giantkiller on October 26, 2014, 09:48:43 AM
Here's a  story. I had just got my 86 running. And rode down to the ECFR. Had some problems and had lots of help from everyone at the rally.

On the way home. In Kentucky I stopped for gas. Existing the station I had to stop at the top of a steep incline for traffic. Put my foot down next thing I know I'm doing the splits with my bike laying over under me. Let it down as soft as I could. (Scratched my brand new givi case)
Got bike back up in a flash. Started right up. But was only running on a couple of cylinders. ( hind sight I think that it was a couple of stuck floats) rode it over the overpass thinking it might clear up, didn't. Pulled into auto zone under the light and started taking it apart. Crap they were closing. Out walk the employees. And one walks over to an 86 Fj just like mine (I didn't see it cause I was trying to figure out what was wrong with mine) The guy looks over and laughs starts his bike and rides off.

I can't figure it out but keep trying. Then a family that was eating at long John silvers. Comes over to help. Drive five miles and back to get the tools they have. I finally gave up. They said I could sleep on their clutch. I didn't want to leave my bike 5miles away. Turns out there are motels a block away, and a block in the other direction,is a small bike shop. They tell me. I rode my sputtering bike to the motel. Got up in the morning and bike ran fine.

Family of cagers spent several hours trying to help me out. Fellow fjer just laughed at me and rode away.
Even if I couldn't help out I still would have come over to see what's up.

One of the most painful lessons some of us learn far too late in life is that there are people in this world that we truly can not relate with at all.

And it's not worth much time or effort trying too, can't change them.

Rather than focus on that, think about how much better Captain D's fish is over Long John Silvers.

I'm hungry now.






Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: giantkiller on October 26, 2014, 11:57:22 AM
Yah just amazed me how great the family was. They were all dressed up. Grandparents, Mom, Dad, kids. Weren't very mechanically inclined. But they stayed there just in case they could help. Really cool.
Title: Re: The Karma Bank
Post by: Bones on October 26, 2014, 03:36:14 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on October 26, 2014, 09:48:43 AM

Family of cagers spent several hours trying to help me out. Fellow fjer just laughed at me and rode away.
Even if I couldn't help out I still would have come over to see what's up.
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His day will come when he's broken down somewhere and no one will stop to help.