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Title: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: JohanH on September 24, 2014, 07:12:06 AM
 :dash1: Ok, as I thought. Removed carbs today. Carbs not up to standard. previous owner has broken of the legs on two of the carbs where hinge pin goes in for float level. Repaired very badly and as i removed the last float it broke off!!!!! Now it to either repair or look for a replacement carb body.
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: Pat Conlon on September 24, 2014, 11:29:29 AM
Bummer.

Send Randy @ RPM a e-mail, he might have a couple of carb bodies for you. They are cylinder specific.

Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: movenon on September 24, 2014, 01:09:38 PM
Quote from: JohanH on September 24, 2014, 07:12:06 AM
:dash1: Ok, as I thought. Removed carbs today. Carbs not up to standard. previous owner has broken of the legs on two of the carbs where hinge pin goes in for float level. Repaired very badly and as i removed the last float it broke off!!!!! Now it to either repair or look for a replacement carb body.

Carb float post repair information.  This might help if your in a jam and can't economically find a lower body. At least it is something to look at.  :good2:

http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27137 (http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27137)

George
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: racerrad8 on September 24, 2014, 01:28:03 PM
Wow, that is a lot of work, but required if both posts are broken off.

Here is the solution I use and have been using for years...
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/011_zpsf7618bd9.jpg~original) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/011_zpsf7618bd9.jpg.html)

I have never had a problem with this repair.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: jscgdunn on September 24, 2014, 01:49:54 PM
Great fix Randy,...love it.  Baling wire and binder twine can fix almost anything.  Where you say your farm was located?

Jeff
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: racerrad8 on September 24, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
Quote from: jscgdunn on September 24, 2014, 01:49:54 PM
Great fix Randy,...love it.  Baling wire and binder twine can fix almost anything.  Where you say your farm was located?

Jeff

We are in the "Cowboy Capitol of the World" of Oakdale, Ca. USA

Actually I went high tech a long time ago...that is .035 stainless steel safety wire; that way it doesn't rust in the carb.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: JohanH on September 24, 2014, 02:33:58 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on September 24, 2014, 01:28:03 PM
Wow, that is a lot of work, but required if both posts are broken off.

Here is the solution I use and have been using for years...
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc517/racerrad8/011_zpsf7618bd9.jpg~original) (http://s1215.photobucket.com/user/racerrad8/media/011_zpsf7618bd9.jpg.html)

I have never had a problem with this repair.

Randy - RPM

Thx Randy , that looks good. Unfortunately mine broke off about a two thirds down. Will load some pix tomorrow.

Johan
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: JPaganel on September 24, 2014, 03:37:57 PM
The really nice fix involves a mill - you mill down the broken post, drill a hole, thread it, and screw in a post.

Know any machinists?
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: JohanH on September 25, 2014, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: JPaganel on September 24, 2014, 03:37:57 PM
The really nice fix involves a mill - you mill down the broken post, drill a hole, thread it, and screw in a post.

Know any machinists?
Think I know what to do. >Drill pilot hole in body as well as post. Insert a dowel coated in pratley steel as well as building up the post a bit with it.
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: movenon on September 25, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: JohanH on September 25, 2014, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: JPaganel on September 24, 2014, 03:37:57 PM
The really nice fix involves a mill - you mill down the broken post, drill a hole, thread it, and screw in a post.

Know any machinists?
Think I know what to do. >Drill pilot hole in body as well as post. Insert a dowel coated in pratley steel as well as building up the post a bit with it.

I don't think pratley steel will hold up.  Any deterioration or bits off it will plug your jets I am afraid.   This is not an FJ carb but you could (?) do a variation of this theme.  Grind both post's down.  Make a similar fitting it will become the hold down for the needle and seat. ?? Some work but doable.
http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11557 (http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11557)
George
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: JohanH on September 26, 2014, 01:00:46 AM
Quote from: movenon on September 25, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: JohanH on September 25, 2014, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: JPaganel on September 24, 2014, 03:37:57 PM
The really nice fix involves a mill - you mill down the broken post, drill a hole, thread it, and screw in a post.

Know any machinists?
Think I know what to do. >Drill pilot hole in body as well as post. Insert a dowel coated in pratley steel as well as building up the post a bit with it.

I don't think pratley steel will hold up.  Any deterioration or bits off it will plug your jets I am afraid.   This is not an FJ carb but you could (?) do a variation of this theme.  Grind both post's down.  Make a similar fitting it will become the hold down for the needle and seat. ?? Some work but doable.
http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11557 (http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11557)

Thx , that looks like a solution. Will see what I can do tonight. When I check compression on the motor, does it make a difference if the carbs are off.
George
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: oldktmdude on September 26, 2014, 03:08:45 AM
Quote from: JohanH on September 26, 2014, 01:00:46 AM


Thx , that looks like a solution. Will see what I can do tonight. When I check compression on the motor, does it make a difference if the carbs are off.

No, having them off just means that you don't have to hold the throttle open.  Pete.
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: JohanH on September 26, 2014, 03:20:22 PM
Quote from: JohanH on September 25, 2014, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: JPaganel on September 24, 2014, 03:37:57 PM
The really nice fix involves a mill - you mill down the broken post, drill a hole, thread it, and screw in a post.

Know any machinists?
Think I know what to do. >Drill pilot hole in body as well as post. Insert a dowel coated in pratley steel as well as building up the post a bit with it.

Ok, here is the broken off  post and some gaskets i made.
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: movenon on September 26, 2014, 04:03:14 PM
They beat the crap out of that one.  Is that the only carb with a broken post ? And which carb is it ? From left to right 1,2,3 or 4 ?  They can be micro welded also but I get the impression it costs 50 -80.00 U.S. to do plus there is shipping.
George
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: jscgdunn on September 26, 2014, 04:11:27 PM
I found this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-FJ1000-FJ1200-1-Carburetor-Body-Baby-Grand-Race-Car-Motorcycle-/351167301679?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51c333c82f&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-FJ1000-FJ1200-1-Carburetor-Body-Baby-Grand-Race-Car-Motorcycle-/351167301679?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51c333c82f&vxp=mtr)

Ebay shipping calculator said 23.00 to SA.  Not sure if right one or not....


Jeff
Title: Re: Carb clean '86 F
Post by: JohanH on September 26, 2014, 04:33:20 PM
Quote from: movenon on September 26, 2014, 04:03:14 PM
They beat the crap out of that one.  Is that the only carb with a broken post ? And which carb is it ? From left to right 1,2,3 or 4 ?  They can be micro welded also but I get the impression it costs 50 -80.00 U.S. to do plus there is shipping.
George

Hi George it's no: 1 Costs will be too high at 1 dollar / 11.23 rand. ouch!!