I wanted to throw this out there to any one looking for glue that would repair the plastic parts on the F J. When I got my bike the entire upper left section of the windshield and turn signal area where completely missing. I purchased a used junky fairing that had that section and cut it out as a splice panel. My brother has been a body man for decades and gave me a tube of 3M panel bonding adhesive which sticks to this plastic honestly like it is plastic it'self. I was in the middle of prepping this for paint today and the upper windshield hole which was a bit damaged before just fell off ( It had been fixed before but I didn't see it) The pieces where too far gone to glue back on so I just reformed it with aluminum tape and remolded it with the 3M epoxy. This stuff is amazing! You can quick set it with a heat gun to form parts and it will set up in 5 minutes or you can let it time cure and it takes 24 hours to fully cure, working time is 1 hr. I also used this stuff to fix the blown out bolt holes in my air scoops and then dremmeled the holes with a rotary file. Note, if you drip it on concrete,(which I did) it will break the concrete surface off the slab before it loses it's bond. Not a joke, this stuff is serious!
Quote from: Tuneforkfreak on August 31, 2014, 01:16:43 PM
I wanted to throw this out there to any one looking for glue that would repair the plastic parts...
...gave me a tube of 3M panel bonding adhesive which sticks to this plastic honestly like it is plastic it'self.
...Not a joke, this stuff is serious!
Do they make it as a cartridge for 3D inkjet printers?
Steve
Steve, I like how you think.... Spot on dude...
Finished! Not perfect by all means but bug ready for sure :good2:
Has anyone tried the proper glue? Since it's ABS Plastic, has anyone used ABS Plastic glue? Cheap, to be found in the local Box Home Improvement Store, in the Plumbing section.
One can even buy more ABS pLastic for filling in gaps or making parts that are chipped or missing, by plastic welding. I recreated one of the ears, with the holes in them, on the main faring, where the two black clips hold the right hand side air scoop, for cooling Cyl's 3 & 4. I even beefed it up, made it thicker, via plastic welding, with my soldering station. The left side also required a fix. On the actual scoop, the little tab facing up, that is inserted prior to inserting the two black clips, so as to hold the top of the scoop in the main faring cutout. The plastic welding is actually working great.
I also heard that one can take some of the ABS glue, and fill up a glass jar half way, then place enough strips of the black ABS plastic DWV to fill it up so as to double the total volume of glue, then leaving it over night so the ABS melts, creating a sort of ABS putty, much like bondo, (well not quite, but one can thicken it to their liking), that chemically bonds with the original plastic, as the glue is supposed to do. It's the next best thing to injection molding, though their is some shrinkage, (one can over fill and file and sand, of course), and the resulting plastic is not quite as tough, but it's good enough to pressure test DWV, so... Any plumbers out there, or those like myself, familiar with plumbing? ;)
By the way, it looks like you achieved some great results, nice work!
FJ Forever! :drinks:
JoBrCo
Quote from: Tuneforkfreak on September 01, 2014, 11:40:18 AM
Finished! Not perfect by all means but bug ready for sure :good2:
Yessir, that's an excellent repair on a GREAT looking FJ! You seem to do good work.
Quote from: JoBrCo on September 02, 2014, 02:37:46 AM
Has anyone tried the proper glue?...
I also heard that one can take some... creating a sort of ABS putty...
There have been some recent threads about this subject, with links to some YouTube videos on this subject. One of the recipes calls for Lego bricks and Acetone mixed, and left in a jar overnight to congeal.
So many cats, so little time to skin!
Steve
I'm really wanting to learn how to do plastic welding too! I'd love to have a 3 D printer as well. Then I could make all the pieces for my bike I can't seem to find or afford. Notice, my air scoops have strips of jet ski astro turf mat on them. Also on this repair job I didn't use any bondo or other fillers. The 3M glue is all I used, it sands like bondo so you're killing two birds with one stone on a finished surface.
I have used the usually bevy of glues. One of the best I have used is LocTite plastic epoxy from Lowe's etc.. If you use it, get the loctite brand I used another brand once and it worked BUT IMO the loctite epoxy works better and the cost is the same. I have a sheet of open weave fiberglass matting and use it for a backing, loading it with the plastic epoxy. ABS scraps also work. Sand the paint off on the back side so the solvent in the glue can melt into it.
George