Poll
Question:
Are you willing to invest at a return of investment of 25%?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 67
Option 2: No
votes: 5
Fellow FJ Owners, members & non-members alike,
I have posted the following poll as I have an opportunity to buy a Yamaha specific business for continued supply of FJ parts for the future. The question is; currently there are 3827 members and if the majority invested just $100.00 each, could I then reach the value needed to complete the purchase?
What I am offering is an investment that will yield a 25% return. For the minimum investment amount of $100.00, you in return will get a coupon code in the amount of 25% additional. So if you purchase a $100.00 online RPM gift certificate you will receive a coupon code for the amount of $125.00.
There really are no catches to this offer, but if enough people do not participate I cannot extend the offer.
The only criteria is that the coupon codes will not be allowed for a specified amount of time after purchase. That time frame has not been completely worked out at the time of this writing. Once I determine if this is feasible, then a program will be put into place.
Guys, I am not looking at this as any type of scheme to bilk anyone out of anything. If fact quite the contrary, I am willing to pay you back with a substantial interest rate. I am also using to other standard means of financing at which I can get a much better interest rates, but I want to be able to include you guys in this RPM expansion to help solidify the future of the FJ.
I believe my reputation on this forum, as well as many other forums including the old Yahoo groups, will be my testament to my honesty & integrity.
My hope is that if the majority members can donate just $100.00 each, that will allow me to complete the purchase.
I am asking the members here as a means of a small, individual investments to RPM to assist in purchasing of this business as a means of continued support for the FJ.
Here is a breakdown of the return:
$100.00 = $125.00
$200.00 = $250.00
$300.00 = $375.00
$400.00 = $500.00
$500.00 = $625.00
$600.00 = $750.00
$700.00 = $875.00
$800.00 = $1000.00
$900.00 = $1125.00
$1000.00 = $1250.00
If you would like to invest a higher amount, please contact me directly via email.
Thank you for your consideration and please vote so that I can determine if this is a viable means of completing this purchase and secure our future.
Randy - RPM (http://www.rpmracingca.com/)
randy@rpmracingca.com
Quote from: racerrad8 on June 05, 2014, 09:44:12 PM
Fellow FJ Owners, members & non-members alike,
I have posted the following poll as I have an opportunity to buy a Yamaha specific business for continued supply of FJ parts for the future. The question is; currently there are 3827 members and if the majority invested just $100.00 each, could I then reach the value needed to complete the purchase?
What I am offering is an investment that will yield a 25% return. For the minimum investment amount of $100.00, you in return will get a coupon code in the amount of 25% additional. So if you purchase a $100.00 online RPM gift certificate you will receive a coupon code for the amount of $125.00.
There really are no catches to this offer, but if enough people do not participate I cannot extend the offer.
The only criteria is that the coupon codes will not be allowed for a specified amount of time after purchase. That time frame has not been completely worked out at the time of this writing. Once I determine if this is feasible, then a program will be put into place.
Guys, I am not looking at this as any type of scheme to bilk anyone out of anything. If fact quite the contrary, I am willing to pay you back with a substantial interest rate. I am also using to other standard means of financing at which I can get a much better interest rates, but I want to be able to include you guys in this RPM expansion to help solidify the future of the FJ.
I believe my reputation on this forum, as well as many other forums including the old Yahoo groups, will be my testament to my honesty & integrity.
My hope is that if the majority members can donate just $100.00 each, that will allow me to complete the purchase.
I am asking the members here as a means of a small, individual investments to RPM to assist in purchasing of this business as a means of continued support for the FJ.
Here is a breakdown of the return:
$100.00 = $125.00
$200.00 = $250.00
$300.00 = $375.00
$400.00 = $500.00
$500.00 = $625.00
$600.00 = $750.00
$700.00 = $875.00
$800.00 = $1000.00
$900.00 = $1125.00
$1000.00 = $1250.00
If you would like to invest a higher amount, please contact me directly via email.
Thank you for your consideration and please vote so that I can determine if this is a viable means of completing this purchase and secure our future.
Randy - RPM (http://www.rpmracingca.com/)
randy@rpmracingca.com
Mate, I`ve put my vote in. Looks like I can transfer it to someone else as a gift also, is that correct? Should I put more than one vote in if I plan to spend more than the minimum? (Otherwise the participation level might be more in reality than your base maths.) eg 1 vote per $100. (Sure makes that rear shock affordable.)
The business mind is obviously something I lack and Randy has in spade loads.
I'm in for a hundred should this idea go the distance.
Heck I was even about to push the button on the track day notion, but, like many great ideas, that event never came to be - I'm guessing due to lack of commitment - not saying that's a negative dig at owners - just that's life - and of course the market decides, ultimately. (hey that's the system, man)
Anyway, we should know by now, our beloved bikes and our money are in good hands at RPM.
(Certainly I think I'd see more if I invested $100 with Randy compared to giving the wife $100) - keep that one under your hats - mind you, if it wasn't true, I wouldn't say it.
Andy
Voted
Good luck Randy,
I expanded my business five times in 27 years. Started out as a teenager with a wild hair and ended up with 100 employees in a building the size of a football field.
Please feel free to call if you would like a sounding board. :drinks:
I'd also be willing to share all of the mistakes I made ... if you have that much time. :dash2:
Jeff
:good2:
Okay, to answer a few questions that have been posted here, via PM & email.
There is only the option to vote one time, no matter the investment amount.
This is good for me to know because if not enough people participate then it might not be a viable means of funding source.
Yes, I am aware that if I sell a 3000+ coupon codes there will be a large amount of orders placed and be a large drain on the inventory. But I cant even begin to determine the time frame of the coupon code use until I have an idea of how many are willing to invest. I vision the coupon codes being released in waves based on the purchase date.
Yes, if someone wants to purchase a gift code for another person to use, you would just put their name down instead of yours, just like the gift certificates used for Christmas, Fathers Day and other special occasions.
Time frame...well this offer to buy was extended to me last month and we have been talking since then. I am to the point where I can't really do much more without having all of the financing in place. Once I have the financing in place, then I will be traveling to the business to really get my nose into it and make sure we come out smelling like a rose. If there is some odor then I can use that to negotiate, but it if really stinks I can walk away.
One member has likened this to a bank certified deposit (CD) as a short term, high return on investment with the only difference being you get the parts you need at a 25% discount.
Please vote honestly that you are able and willing to invest; not just willing.
Thanks again, Randy - RPM
One more question popped up.
Since you would be purchasing via the RPM website, you can use either credit card or PayPal as a payment source.
No wire transfers required.
Randy - RPM
Oh yeah, I'm in. :good:
The only thing I wonder about sometimes is where are we on the bell curve? Every product (motorcycle group) has a life span. I'd guess we're a little right of the peak, do we and the FJ have another 15-20 good years in us, and is that enough to support you until you're ready to call it quits?
(popcorn)
Randy , I am pleased you are continuing to excel in providing parts and services for out beloved fj's .
This will benefit all the members of this group.
I plan on keeping my fj for a long long long time.
to everybody on the fence about this deal.: I will say Randy is a trustworthy man of unimpeachable character. A man of his word and beyond reproach. :good2:
Quote from: airheadPete on June 06, 2014, 01:17:07 PM
...do we and the FJ have another 15-20 good years in us, and is that enough to support you until you're ready to call it quits?
That is the crystal ball question...
But, the engine is still a production bike unit and so engine related parts are not going to be an issue for may years to come.
I am fully committed to the FJ for the long term, I did not set out to make suspension parts, exhaust systems and other Yamaha specific items in the hope to get a year or two down the road.
The body work & panels are the things that are getting harder to obtain, but that doesn't mean there might be aftermarket RPM panels.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: racerrad8 on June 06, 2014, 01:50:24 PM
Quote from: airheadPete on June 06, 2014, 01:17:07 PM
...do we and the FJ have another 15-20 good years in us, and is that enough to support you until you're ready to call it quits?
I am fully committed to the FJ for the long term, I did not set out to make suspension parts, exhaust systems and other Yamaha specific items in the hope to get a year or two down the road.
The body work & panels are the things that are getting harder to obtain, but that doesn't mean there might be aftermarket RPM panels.
Randy - RPM
Doesn`t "might not" mean....
Might! :yahoo:
Of all my bikes the only one I won't sell is the FJ. I am in and hope we have enough members interested to insure we have Randy for years to come. Randy is a man of his word and beyond reproach. As to his character.....he is a character all right but I don't know what kind. :rofl2: Dave
Quote from: The General on June 06, 2014, 02:13:38 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on June 06, 2014, 01:50:24 PM
Quote from: airheadPete on June 06, 2014, 01:17:07 PM
...do we and the FJ have another 15-20 good years in us, and is that enough to support you until you're ready to call it quits?
I am fully committed to the FJ for the long term, I did not set out to make suspension parts, exhaust systems and other Yamaha specific items in the hope to get a year or two down the road.
The body work & panels are the things that are getting harder to obtain, but that doesn't mean there might be aftermarket RPM panels.
Randy - RPM
Doesn`t "might not" mean....Might! :yahoo:
Have access to a 3D printer? Hmmm
Quote from: airheadPete on June 06, 2014, 01:17:07 PM
Oh yeah, I'm in. :good:
The only thing I wonder about sometimes is where are we on the bell curve? Every product (motorcycle group) has a life span. I'd guess we're a little right of the peak, do we and the FJ have another 15-20 good years in us, and is that enough to support you until you're ready to call it quits?
(popcorn)
I predict that, like the XS650's, the FJ's will NEVER go away. Greatness is forever.
My job ends soon, but my FJ needs to keep running, I am in for $100. :biggrin:
Me too, Monkey boy.
Anything for Randy, RPM, and the mighty FJ!
Put me down for $100.
Leon
Quote from: 1tinindian on June 06, 2014, 08:02:08 PM
Put me down for $100.
Leon
Make sure you vote, I am not keep track other than the votes.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: FJmonkey on June 06, 2014, 07:34:00 PM
My job ends soon, but my FJ needs to keep running, I am in for $100. :biggrin:
Make sure you vote, I am not keep track other than the votes.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: racerrad8 on June 06, 2014, 08:29:42 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on June 06, 2014, 07:34:00 PM
My job ends soon, but my FJ needs to keep running, I am in for $100. :biggrin:
Make sure you vote, I am not keep track other than the votes.
Randy - RPM
Yes, I voted...
Voted...Yeah, I'm down for $100. Keep up the good work Randy and I hope this works out!
Quote from: TexasDave on June 06, 2014, 02:16:38 PM
Of all my bikes the only one I won't sell is the FJ. I am in and hope we have enough members interested to insure we have Randy for years to come. Randy is a man of his word and beyond reproach. As to his character.....he is a character all right but I don't know what kind. :rofl2: Dave
+1. Well said. I'm in.
Rick
Quote from: racerrad8 on June 06, 2014, 08:29:26 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on June 06, 2014, 08:02:08 PM
Put me down for $100.
Leon
Make sure you vote, I am not keep track other than the votes.
Randy - RPM
Voted I did.
Can't tell how it's going.
Are you seeing good numbers coming in?
Leon
OK, I'll nibble a bit. I saw a very interesting Project FJ at the WCR, that was running on EFI. Would these proposed 25% investment coupons be good towards a FI system? I feel like my FJ has pretty much become a Christmas tree already, with lots of ornaments on it. The star missing off the top would be a FI system ...
Yeah, I'll be in this. $125 of stuff for $100?
I've made money on bikes rarely in my life, this one looks a sure thing.
How about a tally of those who have voted, and what the minimum vote for it to go ahead will be?
Arnie
I voted
Count me in for $200.00
Fred
Quote from: simi_ed on June 06, 2014, 11:28:24 PM
OK, I'll nibble a bit. I saw a very interesting Project FJ at the WCR, that was running on EFI. Would these proposed 25% investment coupons be good towards a FI system? I feel like my FJ has pretty much become a Christmas tree already, with lots of ornaments on it. The star missing off the top would be a FI system ...
If this financing option works out the coupon will be good for anything I offer on the RPM website.
So, the ultimate question you are asking is if you can use it for a FJ EFI project system I am currently working, that is an unknown at this point.
I am still early in the R&D phase with my first outing with it at the WCR where it preformed almost flawlessly. The one issue is a know issue before we left the shop and there is software code being written to address the issue.
From there I have a ton of tuning to get dialed in, then and only then will I be able to determine if I will be able to offer EFI as a kit for sale via the website. While the majority of the EFI system will be a bolt-on; a plug & play system there is still going to have to modifications required to make it work like proper placement and modification of the exhaust for the oxygen sensor, plumbing of fuel lines and electrical work required.
The plan is to be able to offer it as a complete kit for sale to bolt onto your FJ, but right now I have a lot of work to do get be able to start making the decision if it can be done for the average FJ'er to complete.
But, if there is ever a day & time it is available via the RPM website, yes you could use your coupon code.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: Arnie on June 07, 2014, 10:01:03 AM
Yeah, I'll be in this. $125 of stuff for $100?
I've made money on bikes rarely in my life, this one looks a sure thing.
How about a tally of those who have voted, and what the minimum vote for it to go ahead will be?
Arnie
I believe Arnie has still got his original play lunch coins. And influentially, yeah they would be worth way more now.
mmmm....I`m gunna double my original thoughts on the RPM investment! :i_am_so_happy:
Quote from: Arnie on June 07, 2014, 10:01:03 AM
How about a tally of those who have voted, and what the minimum vote for it to go ahead will be?
Arnie
Arnie,
I cant see the running tally of the poll, so I am not sure.
Honestly, I need to get the "majority" of the members on this forum to make this a feasible option. I don't need 10 or 20k which would be 100 or 200 members to get this done. While it would help, it really does not help me move forward with the purchase...
And without the purchase, I don't think I can afford to go down the 25% road.
Frankly, a 2000 member participation will not allow me to get the purchase completed, that is why I used the word "majority", which means I will still have to seek other funding above & beyond the forum and other financing already available to me.
That is my hope, the majority of members participated at a lower investment level and not a major strain on their personal finances.
Randy - RPM
Yeah right. That's 'cos all the money will still be in your back pocket.
FJ's and XJR's are on their last legs.
You're just like Doc at FJOC.
I'll never buy anything off you or him again.
Quote from: FJ111200 on June 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
FJ's and XJR's are on their last legs.
Well my 4 are not thanks to Randy and his continued support :good:
After adding the fork valves and feeling the transformation I can not wait to get the rear shock.
This will make it happen sooner....I'm in.
VOTED
Quote from: FJ111200 on June 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
Yeah right. That's 'cos all the money will still be in your back pocket.
FJ's and XJR's are on their last legs.
On their last legs...?
Do you know something that the rest of the world does not; do you have access to Yamaha insider information?The seems like an odd statement since you can still buy a brand new one;
2014 Yamaha XJR1300 (http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/products/motorcycles/sport-heritage/xjr1300.aspx)
So, based on my experience Yamaha will still be producing parts for many years to come as they have to provide parts for years, even after production stops.
Since, I cannot see the poll, I will take your comments as a "no" vote. That is how it system works and that is why I made it an option for you to vote.
Thank you for your opinion, but I do take offense to the notion you think I am doing this just to line my pockets. I do not know you from Adam, other than the posts I see that you make here and the single purchase you have made from me, but since you do not know me either, that is a very disrespectful statement to make.
Obviously by the edit to your original post (« Last Edit: Today at 02:03:31 PM by FJ111200 ») you have a specific problem with me, or since you do not know me have lumped my together with Doc and your poor experiences with him;
which one is it?So, how am I just like Doc? The only similarity I see is that we both work on & sell FJ/XJR parts, but you don't have to be a member of anything to purchase parts or get advice from me. I don't own a "club"; I own a business and offer parts and service to anyone that wants them without having to be a member of the "club", I don't need peoples money to just be a member.
Was there a problem with your single order you placed several years ago? If so, it would have been nice to know there was a problem then instead of being attacked more than two years after your purchase on the forum that I contribute to without any prejudice.
I am glad I was able to provide you with the parts you required when you placed your order, which were shipped the same day you placed the order because I spent my money to have the parts on the shelf, unlike most other online vendors. I also believe there a plenty of posts where I have offered advice and answered your questions since you have been a member here and unlike the UK forum, which you have mentioned several times you were "banned" from, my advice is always free. If I was charging you to be a member of a club to offer answers or advice, then maybe I could see that as generating additional funds and putting them into my my pockets, there is no RPMOC.
I will continue to help everyone, including you when I can, free of charge and if you ever have the opportunity and need a part from me, it will be on the shelf and headed your way without having to have it dropped shipped from elsewhere. If you don't want my advice when I post it, don't read it; but I'm sure you will as that is why you are here, to be a part of a community that shares the same interest; Yamaha FJ motorcycles.
One last question for you;
If the FJ/XJR was on its last legs, why would Chinese starter manufactures go into production over the last couple of year of a single application starter for a bike on it's last legs?Sorry, I have no need to line my pockets with the FJ Owners investment, I need to buy a business and this was one of the options I chose to explore for funding.
Hmmmm; I wonder, can you still buy parts for a 1940 Ford coupe, or a 69 Camaro, or how about a 70 Barracuda...?
Is there a diminishing return on the FJ?
I'll answer that one...
Sure there is, but if I have the opportunity to buy a business that will allow us to continue to move forward with the FJ/XJR and that seems like a sound investment to me. If it does not to you, you have the option of not participating.
Who knows, there might be a time, when and if I can continue to grow, there might not be a single part you cannot buy from RPM for your "classic" FJ or XJR, just like all of these companies making aftermarket parts for the classic Fords, Chevys and Dodges.
I just looked at the calendar & clock on the wall here in beautiful, sun drenched California, it is a Saturday afternoon at a little before 5:00pm and I am here at the shop working...
Yes, working; not riding my FJ, sitting by the pool or at the lake on a boat...
Did someone say they saw a 1986 FJ with electronic fuel injection recently...?
I wonder who is doing that; because it surely isn't Doc, or anyone else for that matter...
I am working at RPM to keep the FJ going for many, many years to come whether you think so or not.
But if you do have insider Yamaha information, that might be something you would want to share with the forum.
Randy -
RPM (http://www.rpmracingca.com)
Randy, I have ordered parts from you on more than one occasion primarily due to your excellent reputation on this website. You're not going to please everybody no matter how good the customer service you provide. Thank you for helping keep the FJ's alive and running well. As for me I always plan on owning an FJ! -Barry :good2:
I've still got a little ransom money left.......
Vote has been submitted - I'm in!
Kevin
Randy has been nothing but a gentleman. I ordered some parts from him and he phoned me to let me know that they were on their way and also to let me know that he was short a couple parts. He wanted to know if I had a problem waiting for them to arrive or if I wanted him to ship right a way. I told him to wait and ship everything at once. I don't know what the fellow from England has a problem with but he should pull his out of his ass and think a bit. Big R
Greetings everyone,
Collectively, we are fortunate enough to have the gentleman from R.P.M. in supplying parts (and services as well) for the old FJ's so as to ensure the motorcycle does not become obsolete.
Personally, it is my opinion that the "old" FJ which I ride competes successfully with any other motorcycle (and a few cars as well) across a broad spectrum of roads and conditions; from cross country rides to spirited country road riding it readily holds it own. There has been more than one video and substantial written correspondence posted on this Forum which supports this position.
As compared to any 'modern' motorcycle, the FJ is certainly not on its' "last legs". Also, it would be interesting to be around in 30 years from now to see what "modern" motorcycle maintains the interest of as many people as does the FJ today.
Count me in for the 25%: not so much for the personal gain for any individual but, over the long run, for the benefit of all FJ riders.
Ride safe,
Mike Ramos.
Well said. My feelings exactly. Dave
Quote from: FJ111200 on June 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
Yeah right. That's 'cos all the money will still be in your back pocket.
FJ's and XJR's are on their last legs.
You're just like Doc at FJOC.
I'll never buy anything off you or him again.
OK, so you might not be happy with Randy for some unknown reason.
(There are a million stories out there...)
If so, you don't need to vote for him, otherwise we're due a congent explanation of why you're so ticked off.
It seems most of us have had no problems with him, what went so sour with you???
Randy I would be up for 2 or 3.
Hope you get this off the ground.
It's the internet folks.. someone always has to be a troll and try to take a dump in the cheerios.
Randy hasn't asked for a penny.. not one red cent.. all he's asked for is those who can and are willing to commit to help him grow his business to step up and say "Yes or No".
What Randy is doing is nothing different than Kickstarter or Indigogo. The power of the internet has made it possible to reach out to millions of individuals to pitch an idea and ask to donate a few bucks. Those small donations add up quick. Hell, I donated some cash to a gal on Indigogo to buy a sewing machine of all things. Being a single guy/geek I had no 'effing idea what a "surger" was.. I had to look it up. She was needing it to help grow her business and make costumes for a local children's theater.
I have never met the above mentioned woman, but have been following her blog and such for well over over a year and seeing all the things she does for kids, and the sheer amount of talent she has, I felt it was money well spent. It wasn't a lot of money out of my pocket (to me), but my donation and others helped more then double the requested amount.
A number of us have met Randy in person. There isn't a dishonest bone in his body. He's much like the gal I mentioned above. Trying to grow a business with the knowledge, talent and skills to do so. People with that kind of entrepreneurial spirit is what helps this country grow.
One last thing. For those who can and are willing to help Randy, I would suggest keeping your funding amount to yourself. As he has pointed out several times, just vote now and worry about the dollar amount later. At this early stage it's just a fact finding mission to see if the idea is even feasible.
Quote from: big r on June 07, 2014, 10:11:36 PM
I don't know what the fellow from England has a problem with. Big R
And so for he's not telling!
As Garth said, some of us have met the man (yes even us Aussies).........you wouldn't find a better bloke to call a friend or to do business with.
Harvy
Quote from: FJ111200 on June 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
Yeah right. That's 'cos all the money will still be in your back pocket.
FJ's and XJR's are on their last legs.
You're just like Doc at FJOC.
I'll never buy anything off you or him again.
I have no complains at all with Doc or Randy. I consider that both of them have done a lot to sink the 2nd hand prices of our FJs due to there a LOT of them circulating around the world with excellent spares & mods supply (its a joke!!) :good2:
The only fact that support the 2nd hand prices of worst bikes like VF 1000 R or GPZ 900s are their mechanical fragility hence scarce units in good shape
I simply starting buying from Randy for the tax Canary Island status inside the EU... and discovered a guy that to accelerate the delivery to my corner in the middle in the Atlantic Ocean send the parts before to get the money. I remember 2 years ago that I sent 4 mails along 2 months to get paying an order that I had in my hands... :ireful: :hi:
And I really admire and envy Doc when I see his race triumphs. :flag_of_truce:
Voted. Count me in
Hey, Marsh: I think the free opinion right is limited for the individual honour right. Topics like this accusing a member of trying to appropriate money from the members would must be demanded an explanation or get an expulsion if the only aim is injuring
Total members of the site isn't a good way to peg how much support you might get; you need a list of active members, people who will even see this thread. It's likely to be less than 15% of that big number you're looking at.
It might be better to do this as a kickstarter and share it with the FJ facebook groups. You can offer 125 gift cards for 100 donations there, as well, quite easily.
You also don't have to worry about people saying yes now, and disappearing later--saying yes means a commitment that will all sort itself out once the numbers are met, or no money moves if the numbers aren't.
I don't have much, but I'd be in for at least 100. You're a guy worth supporting.
All the best.
Yes ,from me
Quote from: FJ111200 on June 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
Yeah right. That's 'cos all the money will still be in your back pocket.
FJ's and XJR's are on their last legs.
You're just like Doc at FJOC.
I'll never buy anything off you or him again.
The first comment is a bit harsh and uncalled for, IMO. You would be better off asking intelligent questions expressing your concerns or just stepping aside. Randy is not making anything mandatory or required. He is just proposing a plan.
"on their last legs", Giving you the benefit of doubt, that might have been poorly expressed. Yes they are not state of the art and long in the tooth. Perhaps evolving into a special interest or collector category. A lot of FJ's are bought because they are inexpensive for what you get. Some parts are being discontinued from Yamaha and more will go away in the future. But if there is demand the reproduction industry will fill in. I have seen this evolution before.
On its last legs, I don't think so. Evolving yes. Where it evolves to depends on the demand.
Here in the U.S. I might be leary of getting involved with a person in the UK that I have never met or know anything about so I can understand your concern but if I was interested I would do some (or a lot) of checking around. The internet is good for that. I don't know "DOC" or have any opinion of him but if I wanted information on him I could check the forums out and get ton's of information on him from other members in just a few days.
I have met Randy at 2 rallies and was to his shop once. I order some parts from him and from others. He is as honest and straight forward as you can get. He has helped many FJ owners with free information, some of which takes a lot of experience to acquire with out demanding or requiring you to purchase from him. If you had ever met him you would understand his honesty and desire to support the FJ community. Yes he has a business, he is also a fellow rider and makes no demand that you buy from him. Like I noted, I buy from him along with others. I think Randy sees a void in the FJ product line and is trying to fill it. It is a symbiotic relationship, its helps him and the FJ community. What more can you ask for ?
Personally if Randy needs 100.00 I will give it to him and not give a rats ass what he does with it because he needs it. He has what we refer to in the military "core values". You would want him as a neighbor, friend or family member. And if you want to profile me, I am what you call a "pensioner". Not rich, not poor just getting along in life. I don't just piss money away and anyone that knows me is aware that I am a "value" oriented person.
I voted.
George
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You ROCK Randy :music:
You have my vote
Voted
voted and I'm in :good:
I'm in.
Randy, it may help if you explain the significance of you acquiring this business since it is more than simply growing your existing business
Voted. I'm in as well. Big R
Quote from: FJ111200 on June 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
Yeah right. That's 'cos all the money will still be in your back pocket.
FJ's and XJR's are on their last legs.
You're just like Doc at FJOC.
I'll never buy anything off you or him again.
This guy has done this before at least once. It's one thing to disagree with someone else's opinion but he insults them personally. Calling in to question there integrity. I am tired of him insulting Randy (this is the second time that I know of) and Pat in a previous post about the valve shim kit. I have conferred with Pat a number of times over PM and done business with Randy as well as spoken with him over the phone. This year I had the opportunity to meet these fine gentlemen in person at the WCR. You will not find two better representatives for the FJ community. Maybe we need a three strike rule?
Kurt
Quote from: yamaha fj rider on June 10, 2014, 08:49:45 AM
This guy has done this before at least once. It's one thing to disagree with someone else's opinion but he insults them personally. Calling in to question there integrity. I am tired of him insulting Randy (this is the second time that I know of) and Pat in a previous post about the valve shim kit. I have conferred with Pat a number of times over PM and done business with Randy as well as spoken with him over the phone. This year I had the opportunity to meet these fine gentlemen in person at the WCR. You will not find two better representatives for the FJ community. Maybe we need a three strike rule?
Kurt
The votes speak volumes over the dissent. This forum tends to self moderate quite well. When it is clear that any individual fails to get the message, we simply need not respond further. Nuff said....
Count me in for $100 - and in US dollars too!
Quote from: yamaha fj rider on June 10, 2014, 08:49:45 AM
This guy has done this before at least once. It's one thing to disagree with someone else's opinion but he insults them personally. Calling in to question there integrity. I am tired of him insulting Randy (this is the second time that I know of) and Pat in a previous post about the valve shim kit. I have conferred with Pat a number of times over PM and done business with Randy as well as spoken with him over the phone. This year I had the opportunity to meet these fine gentlemen in person at the WCR. You will not find two better representatives for the FJ community. Maybe we need a three strike rule?
Kurt
I had a look through his posts and they seem fine, quite positive in many cases. That said, I didn't see any relating to RPM or FJOC (UK) but in the main they seem normal..
It would be good to know why someone has an issue with purveyors of FJ parts. For sure, I could have a bit of a moan about the UK FJOC, but RPM have been good with me, and I appreciate the fact Randy offers FJ parts that others don't (even though my funds don't stretch to my RPM wishlist..). The dealings I have had have been absolutely fine, and long may he continue.
I'm not sure 3 strikes is fair, because all views are valid whether we agree or not, though it would be nice to have more details of any issues, rather than blanket statements rubbishing spares retailers / FJ experts.
Anyway, the sun is shining here in England, a rare occasion recently..! :good2:
Voted! I'm in. I have had nothing but good experiences with Randy and RPM. Keep up the good work!
Quote from: FJ111200 on June 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
Yeah right. That's 'cos all the money will still be in your back pocket.
FJ's and XJR's are on their last legs.
You're just like Doc at FJOC.
I'll never buy anything off you or him again.
Calling out someone's integrity without providing any reason for that opinion, shows a serious lack of character in yourself.
If the comment is directed towards what Randy is trying to accomplish, why don't you do the community a service and please elaborate as to why you think he is being 'dishonorable'. You may have a valid issue, which could then be discussed. Personally, I can't see an ethical problem with what Randy is doing. Is there a risk? Of course there is; but for me it's a risk of the business failing and not being able to use my coupon code, not Randy's character.
To be honest, I voted 'No' in the poll. Not because I don't believe in what Randy is trying to do, but because ever since I sold the FJ, Randy doesn't really have anything that I need or can use. Sadly, no matter how much I want to help Randy achieve his goal, I just can't afford to tie up $100.00 in a coupon I may never be able to use.
Fj111200,
If you don't want to contribute/ invest in the longevity of our beloved FJ then don't. But do not attack the integrity of the person whom by far has, and continues to provide superior support to keeping our steeds
Rolling. You can just FUCK OFF. Don't go away mad, just go away.
Scott
Randy has been easy to deal with for me and could not be more helpful. Works for me........ :drinks:
Voted Yes :good2:
I'm in.
Okay, guys the voting on this topic closes today; (Voting closes: Today at 06:44:12 PM)
I would appreciate your vote on this poll. I know the topic kind of got off track there in the middle with comments made, but ultimately, I need to know if you are willing to invest and the poll results will tell me.
I do appreciate the fact FeralRdr offered his reason for the no vote, which was he has no more FJ and he does not purchase from me anymore, so the coupon code would really be useless to him.
If this does not provide the required numbers needed, it at least gives me other ideas for future sales/promotions as time marches on.
Thanks guys, Randy - RPM
Another option you may explore is one I sucessfuly used at a shop I managed.
Badically it is a buy in discount program.
I charged a fee up front and a yearly renewal to join the program.
Basically the customer got a set of stickers and a fixed discount from my advertised prices. The ammounts were based on what the average customer spent with me in a year and ensured that I could get them better prices without hurting my overall margins. If they spent more than my estimate, good for them.
I also sent out a "e-newsletter" giving additional discounts on overstocked stuff and select supplier closeouts. often getting them really good deals, but again ensuring the shop turned a profit.
After the first year I was able to negotiate deals with my primary suppliers and would then pass the savings on to the members.
This was a very popular program, and made the shop a lot of cash (not to mention loyal customers)
The first advantage is that it generated upfront cash for the shop, helping me to avoid financing fees on inventory. It also gave me a target audience for future promotions or shop activities. (rides, bike shows ect.)
The secondary advantage was the free advertising from the customers putting stickers on thier bikes or other vehicles. Tio supliment this I gave each customer a handfull of business card that they could write thier name on. For every card that generated a new customer (not in my system) I gave the member who referred them a ontime cumulative discount. A few times this bit me but in most cases it was a win-win.
A third advantage was purely psycological. Most riders want to be a part of something. Joining the plan and sporting the stickers created somewhat of an exclusive club. It was fun to overhear people talking about being a part of "team Holeshot" or asking about it. I had a very significant number of customers who tracked down the shop simply wanting to join the club.... Ten years after i left the shop, and 8 since it closed its doors I still regularly see Holeshot stickers.
It makes me smile a bit every time.
Not sure if something like this would work for you, but it did for me.
I think that you could ask by PM about how much money we are ready to invest, because the result is the same with 3000 members at $100 or 1500 at $200
Quote from: Alf on June 13, 2014, 02:37:22 PM
I think that you could ask by PM about how much money we are ready to invest, because the result is the same with 3000 members at $100 or 1500 at $200
Alf, you are correct with the math. Depending on the results of the poll will determine the next step for this process. That is why I put the values at the investment and return based on the dollar spent up to $1000.00 because if 300 people invested $1000.00 then I am at number that will allow me to proceed.
The first step was the poll, from there I will make the decision whether to pursue this any further or not.
Quote from: the fan on June 13, 2014, 01:04:28 PM
Another option you may explore is one I successfully used at a shop I managed.
Basically it is a buy in discount program.
I charged a fee up front and a yearly renewal to join the program.
That is very similar to what Doc is doing in the UK, except you must be a member of the UK club to buy from him; no membership, no purchase. What you are saying is to offer incentives to having a member ship of the club like discounted parts, special deals and such.
The thought has crossed my mind several times, but I am just not sure if that is the answer.
Thanks guys for the input.
Randy - RPM
Yes, I'm in.
The voting has ended and unfortunately at this point & time this is not a viable option of funding. I know Alf and others have worked on the math, but with the low number of yes votes there is just no way to be able to move forward with this offer.
The topic was read 1923 times, but there were only a total combined votes of 72. 67 of those were yes votes and that means there are people who are willing to invest, but there is just no way to get even close the balance required to have this option be a viable means of funding of the purchase.
I am working on several other options as this is a purchase that has to happen or it could put a large damper on what we already have.
To all that voted and responded thank you.
Randy - RPM
I´m unpleasantly surprised!. Only 72 votes?... and only 67 yes? ... well, I see that people is passive not only in Spain
I´m very sorry, Randy. It was a very good offer. Thank you very much :hi: