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Title: Side covers Fix
Post by: Tex on May 14, 2014, 07:54:34 PM
Hi all,

   One of the posts off the side cover broke.  :dash2: The piece that slides into the grommets. Has any one had any luck gluing it back on? And if so with what? Thanks.
Title: Re: Side covers Fix
Post by: Hersey289 on May 14, 2014, 08:07:46 PM
I've used "JB Weld for plastic" for fairing and side panel repair and it seems to work well. I too have a broken side panel stud which I'll repair in the same fashion (once I find the misplaced stud!)

Hope this helps,

Rob
Title: Re: Side covers Fix
Post by: airheadPete on May 14, 2014, 08:16:26 PM
It's ABS, so look for some liquid cement that's ABS compatible at a local hobby shop or plastics supply house. (That's two ounces vs. one pint.) I've had great luck with my fairing repairs with it. Like a big model airplane kit. Just make sure it's clean and treat both surfaces so they both have a thin boundary of melted plastic that will fuse as the solvent flashes off.
Title: Re: Side covers Fix
Post by: aviationfred on May 14, 2014, 08:35:04 PM
I use a home made ABS goo.

ABS cement and ABS cleaner can be found at ACE Hardware, Lowe's, Home Depot, Menards and other hardware stores.

I got the recipe from a post on here quite a while ago. Real simple to make. 3 ingredients, ABS Cement, ABS cleaner, very small pieces of scrap ABS plastic or Legos.

In a glass jar I pour some ABS cement, a small amount of the ABS cleaner and the small ABS/lego pieces. Mix it all together, close the lid on the jar and let sit overnight. You will have ABS goo the next day.

For the actual repair. I use the ABS cleaner to clean the affected area and the broken off piece. I apply a coating of pure ABS cement to the affected area and the broken piece. Then I apply some of the ABS goo to the broken piece and attach it to the affected part.

I have had very good success with this formula.

Fred
Title: Re: Side covers Fix
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 16, 2014, 06:45:31 PM
Oh Fred, that's good....off to the Files with this little nugget....

"We have miles and miles of files, pretty files of your forefather's fruit...."

Name that tune.
Title: Re: Side covers Fix
Post by: ribbert on May 16, 2014, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 16, 2014, 06:45:31 PM
Oh Fred, that's good....off to the Files with this little nugget....

"We have miles and miles of files, pretty files of your forefather's fruit...."

Name that tune.

Fred, that's a good fix but you could take it one step further. Butt joins are always going to be weak in an application like that. The leverage and surface area make it so.
I drill a hole in the centre of both parts, somewhere around a 1/3 of the diameter of the part and as far in as I feel necessary then insert a dowel. This provides the strength while the glue then only has to hold it together.
I use bits of rod, hard plastic, nails, screws with the head cut off are good (with the right size wood screw it provides 90% of the strength to the repair before you even get to the glue)

Noel
Title: Re: Side covers Fix
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 16, 2014, 08:21:13 PM
Good stuff Noel...this keeps getting better.

As our bikes age and the plastics get brittle, we will have more and more of our side cover posts breaking off.
Title: Re: Side covers Fix
Post by: ribbert on May 16, 2014, 08:34:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 16, 2014, 08:21:13 PM
Good stuff Noel...this keeps getting better.

As our bikes age and the plastics get brittle, we will have more and more of our side cover posts breaking off.

Ha,ha, having said that, my side covers have been held in place by the seat for years. When the front ones break I will fix them all, but I have used this method on many side covers and numerous other applications with great long term success.

If there is insufficient depth to one of the parts to drill, there are other ways to overlap the join to give it strength.

One of the problems with these sort of repairs its you are trying to fix the point of most stress, which is why is broke there in the first place, so the repair needs to be at least as strong and preferably stronger than the original unbroken part.

Noel

Noel
Title: Re: Side covers Fix
Post by: movenon on May 16, 2014, 08:46:55 PM
I have one post broken and am going to try using some industrial Velcro. That's on the docket for tomorrow. Also as a note I now put a little grease on the posts to help in there removal.
George
Title: Re: Side covers Fix
Post by: Arnie on May 16, 2014, 09:39:23 PM
As George said, put a little grease or silicone spray on the grommets to help prevent breakage.

And, 3M has this 'mushroom' tape ( "Dual Lock" reclosable fastener ) that will work similarly to velcro that might be better.  Note: I haven't seen it in retail stores, but finally found it listed in an industrial supplier catalog. 
Title: Re: Side covers Fix
Post by: Andells1200 on May 17, 2014, 03:00:23 AM
G'day Tex, I have been fixing the same problems. I think I am having some success? My front Guard (Fender) was in a bad way so I am giving Rapidfix a go. Made in the USA, tried on some other ABS plastic seems to hold like shit to a blanket. I used the glue first to glue the lung back in place then the welding powder to build up around the base, fingers crossed cheers.
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Title: Re: Side covers Fix
Post by: Andells1200 on May 17, 2014, 03:05:18 AM
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Title: Re: Side covers Fix
Post by: Andells1200 on May 17, 2014, 03:10:53 AM
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Title: Re: Side covers Fix
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