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Title: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: Lotsokids on May 10, 2014, 06:21:18 AM
I just received a gear indicator that I ordered in April. I don't think I will install it in my FJ, but my 50cc bike which has no Neutral light and frustrating trying to find neutral.
Only $25 + free shipping. :good2:

http://www.dhgate.com/product/2013-new-blue-universal-digital-gear-indicator/169272320.html (http://www.dhgate.com/product/2013-new-blue-universal-digital-gear-indicator/169272320.html)
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: red on May 10, 2014, 08:40:13 AM
Quote from: Lotsokids on May 10, 2014, 06:21:18 AMI just received a gear indicator that I ordered in April. I don't think I will install it in my FJ, but my 50cc bike which has no Neutral light and frustrating trying to find neutral.  Only $25 + free shipping.
http://www.dhgate.com/product/2013-new-blue-universal-digital-gear-indicator/169272320.html (http://www.dhgate.com/product/2013-new-blue-universal-digital-gear-indicator/169272320.html)
Lotsokids,

How does the sending unit for that gadget operate?  Got a picture?

Cheers,
Red
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: Lotsokids on May 10, 2014, 01:10:43 PM
Quote from: red on May 10, 2014, 08:40:13 AM
How does the sending unit for that gadget operate?  Got a picture?

Everything is on the website if you scroll down. I have not opened it and installed it yet.
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: Country Joe on May 11, 2014, 06:48:15 PM
 Well, the price is certainly reasonable enough. it said in the product specifics that it uses 2 sensor modules, but I didn't see any other details.  I'm thinking that might be a good device to add, I'll bet I looked for 6th gear a hundred times yesterday. It's also making me reconsider the 42 tooth rear sprocket I ordered for the GSXR wheel. Maybe that one and an 18 tooth countershaft sprocket.....

Joe
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: JPaganel on May 11, 2014, 09:17:45 PM
It's a magnet on a strip of metal attached to the shift lever and two switches. Shift up, it  closes the upper switch and increments display. Shift down, it closes the lower switch and decrements.

I don't think this will actually help you find neutral - it has nothing to do with position of things inside the transmission.
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: simi_ed on May 12, 2014, 02:14:03 AM
Quote from: Lotsokids on May 10, 2014, 06:21:18 AM
I just received a gear indicator that I ordered in April. I don't think I will install it in my FJ, but my 50cc bike which has no Neutral light and frustrating trying to find neutral.
Only $25 + free shipping. :good2:

http://www.dhgate.com/product/2013-new-blue-universal-digital-gear-indicator/169272320.html (http://www.dhgate.com/product/2013-new-blue-universal-digital-gear-indicator/169272320.html)

Mark, how big is the exterior of the display?  This looks interesting.  They also have a unit with Red LEDs.
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: Capn Ron on May 12, 2014, 02:29:49 AM
Quote from: simi_ed on May 12, 2014, 02:14:03 AM

Mark, how big is the exterior of the display?  This looks interesting.  They also have a unit with Red LEDs.

That website indicates:  Package Size: 25.0 * 25.0 * 10.0 ( cm )

Cap'n Ron. . .
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: Lotsokids on May 12, 2014, 04:04:06 AM
Quote from: JPaganel on May 11, 2014, 09:17:45 PM
I don't think this will actually help you find neutral - it has nothing to do with position of things inside the transmission.

I believe it will. It should indicated when I'm in 2nd gear, then 1/2 step down is neutral. The problem is when I don't know if I'm in 2nd or 3rd.

Quote from: simi_ed on May 12, 2014, 02:14:03 AM
[Mark, how big is the exterior of the display?  This looks interesting.

I'll try to get an exact measurement for you later.
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: oldktmdude on May 12, 2014, 04:15:57 AM
   Just bought one for the FJ. I'll let you know how it works out.   Pete.   :unknown:
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: Lotsokids on May 12, 2014, 09:51:12 AM
Quote from: simi_ed on May 12, 2014, 02:14:03 AM
Mark, how big is the exterior of the display?

I just measured.

The face is 25mm high x 27mm wide, and 16mm deep
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: giantkiller on May 12, 2014, 12:21:36 PM
Quote from: oldktmdude on May 12, 2014, 04:15:57 AM
   Just bought one for the FJ. I'll let you know how it works out.   Pete.   :unknown:
. Yes please (popcorn)
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: JPaganel on May 12, 2014, 12:59:59 PM
Quote from: oldktmdude on May 12, 2014, 04:15:57 AM
   Just bought one for the FJ. I'll let you know how it works out.   Pete.   :unknown:

On the FJ, and a whole bunch of other Yamahas (and maybe other bikes) it's possible to modify the neutral switch to be a gear indicator. I'll see if I can find a link for that.
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: racerrad8 on May 12, 2014, 01:32:40 PM
Quote from: JPaganel on May 12, 2014, 12:59:59 PM
On the FJ, and a whole bunch of other Yamahas (and maybe other bikes) it's possible to modify the neutral switch to be a gear indicator. I'll see if I can find a link for that.

No need, there is already one available...

Digital Gear Indicator, Engine Sender (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Engine%3ADGIU)
Digital Gear Indicator Unit (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Engine%3ADGI)

Also, a little birdie tells me there might at least one other style of digital gear indicator in the works for the FJ as well.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: andyb on May 12, 2014, 01:35:14 PM
That's a nice little indicator and at a reasonable price.  I wonder if it'd be worth gutting it and repurposing it for nefarious means.

I played with google a minute and must say, that's a really nasty thing to try to search for, but I managed to find instructions for the installation of a unit that does what you describe, here (http://www.perminatech.co.uk/pdfs/XJR1300%20GPi%20User%20Instructions.pdf) (google cached version here (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:CN7aJ_QavpQJ:www.perminatech.co.uk/pdfs/XJR1300%2520GPi%2520User%2520Instructions.pdf+&cd=14&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us), as it was a bit finicky about loading properly).

He doesn't show real well how he does the modification (for obvious reasons), but I'm guessing he's adding extra places to the triangular plastic bit to read when the neutral pin moves.  The main site appears to be down, but some googlefu yields this link (http://www.perminatech.co.uk/2-Wheels.htm) which doesn't give any useful info. I didn't try further digging though (easiest to just mirror the site probably and dig manually).

I've seen similar mods done to suzuki's, for example this (http://www.boostbysmith.com/pb/wp_85c6ad96/wp_85c6ad96.html?0.9950372651472501) but they have provisions for each gear to be read by the ECU, so they set it to read 1N23455 to defeat the top speed limiter.

Edit:  Damnit, Randy has everything these days!

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: racerrad8 on May 12, 2014, 01:40:39 PM
Quote from: andyb on May 12, 2014, 01:35:14 PM
Edit:  Damnit, Randy has everything these days!

Actually this topic is making the rounds again...

Digital Gear Indicator (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2379.0)

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 12, 2014, 01:47:48 PM
I want a mechanical switch like Randy's but a small rectangular display like Marsh has in his cluster.

I don't like the largish 2" round gauge.
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: racerrad8 on May 12, 2014, 02:02:04 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 12, 2014, 01:47:48 PM
I want a mechanical switch like Randy's but a small rectangular display like Marsh has in his cluster.

I think I covered that in my post a little while ago...

Randy - RPM

Quote from: racerrad8 on May 12, 2014, 01:32:40 PM
Also, a little birdie tells me there might at least one other style of digital gear indicator in the works for the FJ as well.
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: oldktmdude on June 09, 2014, 09:16:45 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on May 12, 2014, 12:21:36 PM
Quote from: oldktmdude on May 12, 2014, 04:15:57 AM
   Just bought one for the FJ. I'll let you know how it works out.   Pete.   :unknown:
. Yes please (popcorn)
Have just got around to fitting it. Took about 2 hours to fit due to very vague installation instructions, which is a common problem when opting to fit a cheap Chinese made gadget. The wiring instructions were fine but the mounting details for the sensors was trial and error. Having said all that, the indicator works exceptionally well. Been out for a couple of rides since fitment and am very happy with it. Neutral indication only occurs after the ignition has been switched off and back on again. This is not a problem for me as my dash neutral light works fine. Sure stoops me looking for another gear when I'm already in 5th gear, which is the main reason I bought this unit in the first place. For around $20 it's a bargain.   :good2:  Pete.
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Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: Vsekvsek on June 11, 2014, 11:43:13 PM
Wonder if this would work on my two stroke dirt bike
Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator
Post by: oldktmdude on June 12, 2014, 06:55:18 AM
Quote from: Vsekvsek on June 11, 2014, 11:43:13 PM
Wonder if this would work on my two stroke dirt bike
It will work on your two stroke only if you have a 12v power source. The neutral function of this indicator relies on a ground signal from the gear selector neutral position which may not be available on some two strokes. I had a 400km ride today and it performed without fault. For the money it's a bargain.
                                                                                                                                                                                         Pete.