Hi Folks, FJ1200 3XW 1991 non ABS, approx 40K miles, NOT shiney :)
OK my bike passed it's MOT, the anuual roadworthy test here in the UK,but had one advisory.
This was regarding the "loose" and "slightly wobbly" rear brake lever, due in all likelihood to a
worn bush. NOT a fail, but still I don't like advisory notices and I want to sort it out.
Now this is not a subject covered in the "Hyenas book of lies" :) never seen a Clymer namual so I cant comment.
Have ordered a new bush from " Yambits" here in the UK, P&P costs more then the bush, but hey ho :)
Now, just eyeballing this job, and it looks to me like it could be a wee swine of a job, ONLY because it seems to me, that there is
very little room down there to get the old bush drifted out and the new one back in. My questions are, has anyone done this job?
and do you have to remove the swing arm? :/
Any advice very much appreciated, greetings from Johnny ,(Edinburgh,Scotland)
Quote from: johnnyalpha on April 14, 2014, 04:21:50 AM
Hi Folks, FJ1200 3XW 1991 non ABS, approx 40K miles, NOT shiney :)
OK my bike passed it's MOT, the anuual roadworthy test here in the UK,but had one advisory.
This was regarding the "loose" and "slightly wobbly" rear brake lever, due in all likelihood to a
worn bush. NOT a fail, but still I don't like advisory notices and I want to sort it out.
Now this is not a subject covered in the "Hyenas book of lies" :) never seen a Clymer namual so I cant comment.
Have ordered a new bush from " Yambits" here in the UK, P&P costs more then the bush, but hey ho :)
Now, just eyeballing this job, and it looks to me like it could be a wee swine of a job, ONLY because it seems to me, that there is
very little room down there to get the old bush drifted out and the new one back in. My questions are, has anyone done this job?
and do you have to remove the swing arm? :/
Any advice very much appreciated, greetings from Johnny ,(Edinburgh,Scotland)
Johnny,
Both my FJs have high mileages and have needed this repair. I just packed out the hole with a thin strip of metal (from a Stella Artois can, if memory serves.)
Stuart
Ah ! I see !!!! OK, I see where you are coming from :good2:
Must be something lacking in my education I suppose :)))
MMmhh anyone want to buy a NOS rear brake lever bush, never fitted ???
I thought the old bodge of sorting out worn splines by inserting sewing needles was a top bodge, but this beats that :)
Now I have to select a suitable beverage from which to obtain the neccessary to provide my bush repair materials from, Mmhhhhh any ideas ?
Stella, not really my cup of tea, mmmhh do they do "Skull Splitter" in cans ???
OR I try to do it right, mmmhhhhhh hard decision ? mmmh not really :)))
Johnny (Embra) :bye:
Some of these icons don't turn out as expected, must avoid them from now on !:)
Welcome. I have not replaced my bushing but a part answer to your question is no you do not have to pull the swing arm. I would just remove the AL. side plate and then fix it.
To remove the side plate you will have to take the nut off the bolt that go's through the swing arm but the bolt can stay and the swing arm will stay in place. You will have to unbolt the rear brake master cylinder and the the muffler attachment.
George
Quote from: movenon on April 14, 2014, 08:51:45 AM
To remove the side plate you will have to take the nut off the bolt that go's through the swing arm but the bolt can stay and the swing arm will stay in place. You will have to unbolt the rear brake master cylinder and the the muffler attachment.
George
There's a few more screws/bolts that will require removal to get the aluminum side plate off. If memory serves me well, you may also need to remove the foot peg too. Go to website: boats.net and look up the necessary exploded view for your particular year. It may help you.
Quote from: FJ1100mjk on April 14, 2014, 09:08:45 AM
Quote from: movenon on April 14, 2014, 08:51:45 AM
To remove the side plate you will have to take the nut off the bolt that go's through the swing arm but the bolt can stay and the swing arm will stay in place. You will have to unbolt the rear brake master cylinder and the the muffler attachment.
George
There's a few more screws/bolts that will require removal to get the aluminum side plate off. If memory serves me well, you may also need to remove the foot peg too. Go to website: boats.net and look up the necessary exploded view for your particular year. It may help you.
I like how you are form Minnesota, but your map shows you haven't been to Iowa! Haha, a true Minnesotan! :lol:
Quote from: Bminder on April 14, 2014, 12:03:26 PM
I like how you are form Minnesota, but your map shows you haven't been to Iowa! Haha, a true Minnesotan! :lol:
Bminder:
Map fixed.
For the record, I am from MN, but not a true Minnesotan. I'm a transplant from The Buckeye State. :biggrin:
Marty
Quote from: FJ1100mjk on April 14, 2014, 04:53:23 PM
Map fixed.
For the record, I am from MN, but not a true Minnesotan. I'm a transplant from The Buckeye State. :biggrin:
Marty
Oh.
You do realize a buckeye is a nut, don't you? Your mascot is a nut. :lol:
Quote from: Bminder on April 14, 2014, 07:19:39 PM
Oh.
You do realize a buckeye is a nut, don't you? Your mascot is a nut. :lol:
Would rather it be a nut, instead of a ground burrowing rodent :rofl:
I guess we've hijacked johnnyalpha's original post enough. Moving on...
Thanks for the input,all very entertaining :)
Ok I think I'll give replacing the bush a go :)
One point though, on the 3XW does the swingarm bolt pass through the sideplate ?
I thought that was the earlier versions ?
Cheers and thanks once more , Johnny :)
Quote from: johnnyalpha on April 14, 2014, 10:40:32 PM
Thanks for the input,all very entertaining :)
Ok I think I'll give replacing the bush a go :)
One point though, on the 3XW does the swingarm bolt pass through the sideplate ?
I thought that was the earlier versions ?
Cheers and thanks once more , Johnny :)
Perhaps I am wrong but all of them have a long bolt going through the side plates (swing arm bolt) The nut is on the right side. Just take the nut off and do not pull out the swing arm bolt. With the nut and everything else unbolted the right side plate it will come off.
It is an easy job. The hardest part will be getting the spring reattached that holds tension on the brake lever :)..
The nut is item 7 http://www.2wheelpros.com/oem-parts/1992-yamaha-fj1200d-swing-arm-assembly.html (http://www.2wheelpros.com/oem-parts/1992-yamaha-fj1200d-swing-arm-assembly.html) Nut TQ is 90 Nm (9.0m.kg, 65 ft lbs).
Not a good photo, but the nut is to the right of the top foot peg bolt.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/6/1651_27_11_13_5_33_25.jpeg)
George
Quote from: movenon on April 14, 2014, 11:04:21 PM
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/6/1651_27_11_13_5_33_25.jpeg)
George
George - you are a very sick man -- STOP CLEANING and go riding!!! :lol:
Seriously, I think if you saw mine in person you'd call protective services on me! :flag_of_truce:
Chris
Chris, your still in a snow pile................ :lol: It is a before shot.... And the only job I have is sitting out front with a cup of coffee at 7:00AM waving bye to all the neighbors going to work..
George
MMMhh it is nice and shiny and soooo clean :)))
Aye , I see it,Looks like you are correct, I stand corrected. :)
Grand, righto now I await the bush and then battle will commence :)
Yep the spring can be a wee sod :)
thanks folks, Johnny
"One point though, on the 3XW does the swingarm bolt pass through the sideplate ?
I thought that was the earlier versions ?"
On the 3xw the swing arm bolt is recessed into the side plates. All the models all use the same swingarm through bolt, even though the 3xw frame is wider; because the side plates are recessed this works. Also, the mufflers are not hung on the side plates
It also gives you the ability to get the plates off for maintenance much easier (or cleaning and polishing George :morning2:).
Jeff
Don't get me wrong for saying this ...but...As painful and disappointing as it was.....
George's crash has proved out to be the best thing that ever happened to that bike.
A true tribute to her owner's positive attributes.
Shit happens in life, success just depends on how you react :good2:
Polishing ???? Did I here polish ? Not even in the same league as Pat or Leon... Seriously I just clean things up so I can see what I am working on.... There are some mighty fine FJ's out there and mine isn't one of them. It is just what I own...
George