Pat, is what you refer to as an "Owners Handbook" what we would call a Workshop Manual, as in the Hayes publication? Or, is it the actual handbook that comes with the bike when new?
Noel
I refer to the Owners Handbook, published by Yamaha, that comes with every new bike.
The Workshop Manual is something different.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 07, 2014, 09:53:18 AM
I refer to the Owners Handbook, published by Yamaha, that comes with every new bike.
The Workshop Manual is something different.
Thanks Pat
Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 07, 2014, 09:53:18 AM
I refer to the Owners Handbook, published by Yamaha, that comes with every new bike.
The Workshop Manual is something different.
Yamaha offers a reprint of the Workshop Manual. Close to $100 in price. Trying to find out if the factory manual is worth the premium over the Haynes Manual or any other for that matter. Yamaha, of course, says it is.
Thanks, Rick
Quote from: RD56 on April 07, 2014, 07:53:23 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 07, 2014, 09:53:18 AM
I refer to the Owners Handbook, published by Yamaha, that comes with every new bike.
The Workshop Manual is something different.
Yamaha offers a reprint of the Workshop Manual. Close to $100 in price. Trying to find out if the factory manual is worth the premium over the Haynes Manual or any other for that matter. Yamaha, of course, says it is.
Thanks, Rick
If you want the best information the Yamaha manual is the way to go. They are 2 to 3 times the size of the aftermarket ones. Look for a used one.
Kurt
I strongly recommend the "Yamaha Factory Service Manual".. You can buy them used for 15 to 50.00 on flea bay. If you own an FJ it is a must. That said on occasion you can find the basic service manual for free on the WEB. The quality of pictures leaves some room for improvement but all the data is there. For around 10-15.00 I think you can buy a DVD/CD on flea bay with the manuals on it.
George
Quote from: yamaha fj rider on April 07, 2014, 08:12:45 PM
If you want the best information the Yamaha manual is the way to go. They are 2 to 3 times the size of the aftermarket ones. Look for a used one.
Kurt
Kurt and George, I can understand the pleasure in owning such a publication, but "strongly recommending" it?
What could possibly be in there that isn't covered in the more concise Haynes / Clymer manuals. They already cover way more procedures than anyone is ever likely to carry out on their bike.
Just curious.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on April 08, 2014, 07:09:02 AM
Quote from: yamaha fj rider on April 07, 2014, 08:12:45 PM
If you want the best information the Yamaha manual is the way to go. They are 2 to 3 times the size of the aftermarket ones. Look for a used one.
Kurt
Kurt and George, I can understand the pleasure in owning such a publication, but "strongly recommending" it?
What could possibly be in there that isn't covered in the more concise Haynes / Clymer manuals. They already cover way more procedures than anyone is ever likely to carry out on their bike.
Just curious.
Noel
For the same money the used factory manual is better IMO. I have used Haynes / Clymer manuals and invariably found them lacking in information compaired to the factory manuals. I have a shelf full of both for cars and motorcycles. That's just what I have experienced. I still strongly recommend the Yamaha Factory Service Manual. I have access to both.
Here is a site you can download a Clymer manual for free http://www.fj1100.it/content/download/index.php?lng=ENG (http://www.fj1100.it/content/download/index.php?lng=ENG).
A copy (not the best quality) of the basic FJ 1100 factory service manual is still at rapidshare.com. Be aware there are suppements.
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fjowner
My go to hard copy is a "FJ 1100/1200 (L-B) Genuine Yamaha Service Manual". It has the supplements I want and the basic FJ1100 manual included. Cost me less than 20.00. Forgive me, being retired on S.S. I am pretty frugal.
George
+1 for the Yamaha Service Manual.
After having and working on my FJ's for a few years now, I recently picked up a used YSM, and have found it superior to the Clymer. Clymer is pretty good, but is lacking in detail sometimes.