hows everyone doing. new FJ owner here (bitter sweet moment). iv inherited my fathers 86. what else do you say? its deffnitly in need of some good consistent maintenance. he never was one for regular maitnence. time to change oil when the clutch starts grabbing... that kind of maintenance.
i myself have a 97 B12 with a few bolt ons and carb work. putting out 120hp last summer on the dyno.
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my girlfriends got a B400 (44hp on the dyno). photo taken aprox 9 miles from the summit of MT. Washinton.
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iv also got a few other projects:
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everytime i get something new i make sure i join the most popular forum i can find. i try to keep up to date on the "everybody is doing it" mods.
heres the only pic i have of my fathers bike taken about 5 years ago with my first bike. i do miss the interceptor 500. great little bike.
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my plans for the FJ is to get it caught up to my standards of mechanical condition. i know the red plastic is faded. i may replace the "pink" front fender just due manhood. but other then that im thinking of using the FJ for more of touring and two up riding. wheres my B12 i guess will be more of my "hotrod" bike.
Welcome dude...
Welcome ! Ask questions anytime. Take some time and scan the files and posts. Lots of good information and help here. Glad the FJ stayed in the family.
George
Quote from: movenon on February 18, 2014, 08:33:46 PM
Welcome ! Ask questions anytime. Take some time and scan the files and posts. Lots of good information and help here. Glad the FJ stayed in the family.
George
Scanning I have been! I like the sounds of the "relay mod". Definitely going to do that to all our bikes. Maybe even my truck lol.
I like the muffler relay mode the most...
Shitty picture but I picked it up last night to bring it home: (http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt53/agraham52/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps65493061.jpg) (http://s597.photobucket.com/user/agraham52/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps65493061.jpg.html)
Quote from: a.graham52 on April 08, 2014, 06:24:27 AM
Shitty picture but I picked it up last night to bring it home:
No such thing as a shitty photo of a rescued FJ wending it's way to a new home to be restored to its former glory.
Noel
Congrats on getting the FJ. Sorry to hear about your dad. Welcome to the forum.
Kurt
Thanks. Couple problems I'm aware of with this bike is supposedly rain water gets in the fuel tank. Is that a common concern? Also I know the reserve on the fuel tank is really odd setup. Can someone explain to me how it works?
Does the "Island of Misfit Toys" have a bridge? WE have a bridge and It's a big one! :yes:
Quote from: a.graham52 on April 08, 2014, 03:31:29 PM
Thanks. Couple problems I'm aware of with this bike is supposedly rain water gets in the fuel tank. Is that a common concern? Also I know the reserve on the fuel tank is really odd setup. Can someone explain to me how it works?
When the fuel gets low enough a small solenoid in the fuel petcock is activated that cuts off the fuel supply. The solenoid is deactivated when the RESERVE switch changes states. This then allows you run the tank dry.
I have replaced my old 86' fuel petcock when it filed with an 84/85 petcock. It cost less and does not have the RESERVE function of the 86/87.
Quote from: Joe Sull on April 08, 2014, 05:17:35 PM
Does the "Island of Misfit Toys" have a bridge? WE have a bridge and It's a big one! :yes:
Why yes ours has a bridge but it's not as big as yours. Up the coast a little further :)
If u change petcocks, how do you then activate reserve? I haven't even looked at the petcock On the bike. Must have a manual knob or on and off if I had to guess
Quote from: a.graham52 on April 08, 2014, 08:39:03 PM
If u change petcocks, how do you then activate reserve? I haven't even looked at the petcock On the bike. Must have a manual knob or on and off if I had to guess
The reserve function is lost. It has 2 positions, ON and PRI. In the ON position it is off until the engine is pulling vacuum, then it flows fuel. In the PRI position fuel flow is wide open, good for filling the carbs after some carb work. I don't see any value in the reserve function. In all the years I have been riding I have used the reserve function once. It was my first bike, a long trip and new rider (me). Ever since then, I have been a hawk with the trip meter and always know how much fuel (range remaining) I have. So the fuel gauge is also a waste of space in the FJ dash. Don't get me wrong, I don't knock anyone that likes that stuff, I just don't need it and like what I have always been doing.
Quote from: FJmonkey on April 08, 2014, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: a.graham52 on April 08, 2014, 08:39:03 PM
If u change petcocks, how do you then activate reserve? I haven't even looked at the petcock On the bike. Must have a manual knob or on and off if I had to guess
The reserve function is lost. It has 2 positions, ON and PRI. In the ON position it is off until the engine is pulling vacuum, then it flows fuel. In the PRI position fuel flow is wide open, good for filling the carbs after some carb work. I don't see any value in the reserve function. In all the years I have been riding I have used the reserve function once. It was my first bike, a long trip and new rider (me). Ever since then, I have been a hawk with the trip meter and always know how much fuel (range remaining) I have. So the fuel gauge is also a waste of space in the FJ dash. Don't get me wrong, I don't knock anyone that likes that stuff, I just don't need it and like what I have always been doing.
+1 :good2: I am with you... At around 150 miles I start setting up for a fuel stop. Old habits. For a reserve I would much rather have a manual valve that is accessible..
George
George
Quote from: movenon on April 08, 2014, 11:04:18 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on April 08, 2014, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: a.graham52 on April 08, 2014, 08:39:03 PM
If u change petcocks, how do you then activate reserve? I haven't even looked at the petcock On the bike. Must have a manual knob or on and off if I had to guess
The reserve function is lost. It has 2 positions, ON and PRI. In the ON position it is off until the engine is pulling vacuum, then it flows fuel. In the PRI position fuel flow is wide open, good for filling the carbs after some carb work. I don't see any value in the reserve function. In all the years I have been riding I have used the reserve function once. It was my first bike, a long trip and new rider (me). Ever since then, I have been a hawk with the trip meter and always know how much fuel (range remaining) I have. So the fuel gauge is also a waste of space in the FJ dash. Don't get me wrong, I don't knock anyone that likes that stuff, I just don't need it and like what I have always been doing.
+1 :good2: I am with you... At around 150 miles I start setting up for a fuel stop. Old habits. For a reserve I would much rather have a manual valve that is accessible..
George
George
When was the last time anyone owned a car with a reserve switch? They ditched them with the introduction of fuel gauges. It is nothing more than a hangover from pre fuel gauge, or even trip meter days on bikes, with an extended overlap, just like kick starters.
Vacuum petcocks and associated fuelling issues are a very regular topic here. While there is nothing wrong with one in good order, the low head pressure and poor filtration of the gravity feed that supplies them creates more issues than the tap itself.
A pressurised, well filtered fuel delivery is far more reliable. You might expect one pump failure in the life of the bike and that's it.
One day, when sanctioned by the powers that be, it will become a common mod, just like it is on old cars. It's just a matter of how the group thinks. On old gravity fed cars it's one of the first things you do, and they generally have more head pressure and solid fuel lines.
Noel
So I took her to work today and got it running with a bit of a boost. Gave it a quick layer of degreaser and hosed her down. During lunch I took it for a test drive. Hopes good but runes very rough just off idle. Dad was always complaining if that but insisted on adding some kind of fuel treatment to bandaid the problem. So... After work u pulled the carbs. Take a look at the air filter! Also like to admit that it took me all of 15 minutes for my first fj carb pull. LOVE the ability to separate the throttle cables in half!
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Quote from: a.graham52 on April 09, 2014, 08:14:55 PM
Take a look at the air filter!
Air filters have to get
very dirty before noticeably affecting running but that one looks like it's well past that stage.
Tell me about it! I'm hoping to get this all cleaned up and back together so I can ride it while I tear down the b12. That's overdue for a valve adjustment and also blew a fork seal last year. While the forks apart I'm going to swap in some race tech springs and gold valves.
Quote from: a.graham52 on April 09, 2014, 08:14:55 PM
So I took her to work today and got it running with a bit of a boost. Gave it a quick layer of degreaser and hosed her down. During lunch I took it for a test drive. Hopes good but runes very rough just off idle. Dad was always complaining if that but insisted on adding some kind of fuel treatment to bandaid the problem. So... After work u pulled the carbs. Take a look at the air filter! Also like to admit that it took me all of 15 minutes for my first fj carb pull. LOVE the ability to separate the throttle cables in half!
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt53/agraham52/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps87397322.jpg) (http://s597.photobucket.com/user/agraham52/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps87397322.jpg.html)
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt53/agraham52/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps40ef4b8e.jpg) (http://s597.photobucket.com/user/agraham52/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps40ef4b8e.jpg.html)
Uh oh.... Looks like you pulled the elbow off the petcock.
You had best clean it up, seal it and safety wire it back on. Search the site for wiring petcock. There have been fires from this.
Derek
good eye. yeah it was more then willing to come with me. im thinking i will jb weld the elbow back in and then safety tie it.
i lost one of the clips the holds the throttle cable halfs together and im waiting for the dealer to get new ones in so i can get it all back together.
one question i do have is how on earth do you get get the intake boots between the box and carb ALL the way back on. i cannot for the life of me do it. #3 faught me all day long and had me pulling my hair out. is there a trick?
Best trick is to get rid of the air box and install UniPods...... Don't you love a smart ass... :lol:
George
Quote from: a.graham52 on April 11, 2014, 06:42:44 PM
good eye. yeah it was more then willing to come with me. im thinking i will jb weld the elbow back in and then safety tie it.
i lost one of the clips the holds the throttle cable halfs together and im waiting for the dealer to get new ones in so i can get it all back together.
one question i do have is how on earth do you get get the intake boots between the box and carb ALL the way back on. i cannot for the life of me do it. #3 faught me all day long and had me pulling my hair out. is there a trick?
I saw a post here using a scissor jack and some 2x4. Slow, firm, even, pressure and the carb bank pops back on. Very clever.
Quote from: movenon on April 11, 2014, 07:12:26 PM
Best trick is to get rid of the air box and install UniPods...... Don't you love a smart ass... :lol:
George
In time, in time
Quote from: FJmonkey on April 11, 2014, 07:36:36 PM
I saw a post here using a scissor jack and some 2x4. Slow, firm, even, pressure and the carb bank pops back on. Very clever.
Carbs went Into the engine great, I lubed the boots with dielectric grease. But the issue I have is the the boots between the air filter and carbs. It's like they just arnt quite long enough
Quote from: a.graham52 on April 11, 2014, 06:42:44 PM
i lost one of the clips the holds the throttle cable halfs together and im waiting for the dealer to get new ones in so i can get it all back together.
You mean these
Throttle Box Slider (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3ASlider%2CThrottle)
Sorry, I cant get the picture to load, so here it is:
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Plus, if you any other throttle box parts, I have them in stock as well.
Randy - RPM
Thanks! But I did order one from the local dealer. Should have it by Tuesday.
No problem, don't forget when you order something from my website it is in srock and in the US, people usually have it three days later.
Randy - RPM
Sounds good! By the looks of things I'll be hitting you up when I get my other bikes squared away.
More pics from Friday after first bath. Still needs another
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So I got it all back together and running. Doesn't run that great still. However I stuck in new plugs and when I pulled the #2 plug wire off, all of the guts came out. I stuffed the guts back in (after taking another wire apart I found it's missing peices), but it still doesn't run right. Tomorrow I'm going to buy a new boot to make the repair before I start fiddling further with the carbs.
Quote from: a.graham52 on April 18, 2014, 07:51:14 PM
So I got it all back together and running. Doesn't run that great still. However I stuck in new plugs and when I pulled the #2 plug wire off, all of the guts came out. I stuffed the guts back in (after taking another wire apart I found it's missing peices), but it still doesn't run right. Tomorrow I'm going to buy a new boot to make the repair before I start fiddling further with the carbs.
Make sure you buy the correct boot as the O.E. boot has the resistor contained inside. (all the parts that fell out...)
Yamaha spark plug boot (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Ignition%3ASPB)
Randy - RPM
that part has apparently been missing for quite some time. im sure thats probabaly half the reason for the poor running hes been having for a year or two. wahts the purpose of the resistor and is it ok to substitute in a non resistor boot untill the proper one can be obtained?