For you z-car fans out there, I came across Datsun 240z VIN HLS3000486... that's the 486th 240z made and it was produced in 11/69. It is a project, but a sub-500 240z is worth the effort for sure. I'm going to make her new again over a couple of years probably. Check this out and wish me luck!
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Frank
Looks like a pretty good unmolested core. :good2:
George
Looks like a great project.
Very cool Frank...What's the back story on the car? Where did it live? How did you find it? (obviously the #'s match)
If you don't mind my asking, how much did it cost you? Do you have a rough idea on your budget for a frame off restoration?
I noticed..On Classic Auto Trader there is a '70 Z that they are asking $10.9k...which is surprisingly not too costly
http://www.autotraderclassics.com/classic-car/1970-Datsun-240Z-1362212.xhtml?conversationId=561776 (http://www.autotraderclassics.com/classic-car/1970-Datsun-240Z-1362212.xhtml?conversationId=561776)
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I don't know what they were thinking with those huge 17" rims and tires.....those gotta go.
I love those 240's
It's amazing when you think about it... That Datsun could do a clean sheet design and produce a car which would, in one fell swoop, eclipse every sport car offering to come out of England. (and I grew up owning MGA's MGB's and Austin Healeys)
Then again, Honda did the same thing with his SOHC 750 shocker...also in 1969... hmmm I think I see a theme here...
I guess 1969 was not a good year for our GB cousins...
I don't know much of the story, other than this is one of 163 of the first 500 known to still be around. The z community tracks these things you know. I will piece it together over time.
Other answers:
- Bought on ebay for $6,500 and picked it up from a Hayward import/export warehouse... very cool place!
- Restoration to factory is condition is going to cost another $25K likely (I am going to hot up the engine, but keep it looking stock)
- lots of parts out there still, but the right parts are harder for this one.
- restored to NOS condition, this car should draw $30K+ if I wanted to sell... but I won't
Also included in the sale was a perfect dash with all gauges that I'll sell for $2K or so (I'm going to send mine for restoration), a 5 speed trans, a set of period Enkie rims in great shape, and a few boxes of early parts. I think I got a great deal, but I bought a project I've wanted to do for 25 years at least. Keeps me out of the bars...
The history of the z is quite cool with a rebel VP (Mr Katayama) being sent to US in the 60's to get Nissan into the market... 9 years later he got the z built specifically for US and once introduced in NY auto show (Oct 1969), the lid blew off the demand and Nissan was caught not quite ready. The first 500 or so cars are products of early scrambling to get product on the boat... mine has several unique early production things (no rear window defroster, metal badges instead of the production plastic, fiberglass headlight buckets made while they got the stamping machine ready for the metal ones, etc.). I'm an engineer gone marketeer (gone GM now, but still marketing guy at heart) and this car was the death blow to the british crap we were enduring at the time... MG and Triumph were gone in no time. They sold ~170,000 of these things in the first 3 years and the series remains one of the most successful sports cars in history (370z is still a great bargain).
I'm going to remove the interior this weekend and have the engine builder and painter lined up to get the major parts back to me in Apr/May, then the real fun can begin. Searching like heck for parts until then.
I'll keep this thread going until you guys are sick of it...
Frank
Sick of it? I think everyone will enjoy it. Saw my first one on Okinawa in 1970. Beautiful orange. My only regret was not buying one to bring back. Dave
Nice I owned a 280 for a while but always wanted a 240.
Nice find. That is one of my all time favorites. My oldest brother had a 240 when I was a kid(72). My dad had one(70). My youngest brother still has a beautifully restored 240(71).
Just like fixing up an old FJ it takes patience to find all the parts. I am glad you posted those pictures and hope you continue to do so as you go along.
The Z cars were always my favorite !!!! especially the Twin Turbos.............getting it started is never the problem....it's getting her finished !! :wacko1: :crazy:
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Should be finished by summer........my lack of experience was what cost the most.....doubled everything....my suggestion......prepare for a long haul.... :bye:
CanTwaitman
Looks like a grow operation.
Quote from: andyoutandabout on January 11, 2014, 10:55:02 AM
Looks like a grow operation.
:sarcastic: :wacko2: :biggrin: :lol: :crazy: :rofl: :wacko2: :rofl2:
Looking at your ramp, your either single or you can lick your eye lids
Quote from: bcguide on January 12, 2014, 05:04:42 AM
Looking at your ramp, your either single or you can lick your eye lids
........hmmmm.......how does my ramp say that I am single ? ....... the only creature I know who can lick his eye brow is a lizard........ you lost me !!! :scratch_one-s_head:
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That ramp could have supported a 10 truck I can assure you :mail1: !!!
it looks like you have that ramp right off the deck of your house. I can get away with a lot but not something like that
lol....rotflmao......okay.....now I get your meaning...... :good: ...well.....My woman doesn't object too much.....I built the deck myself....and the deck was only temp ......besides....women in general don't appreciate male hobies...so you either make them understand, or you try to live life without any....... :shok:.....Couldn't do it....lol
CanDman
Hello can damn,
Why the ramp? Are you moving car somewhere temporarily? I can't figure it out.
Quote from: Picopower on January 15, 2014, 07:38:37 AM
Hello can damn,
Why the ramp? Are you moving car somewhere temporarily? I can't figure it out.
The ramp is so I can work under the car.......several major issues required me to get under the car...and this was the best solution I could come up with...... :bye:
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Frank
Hey Gandolph......a little spit polish and grease and you may just end up riding this........ :nyam1:
Bikini model Jessica Henson gets a ride in a 1000hp 240z (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vp_XEvZCM4#ws)
Been a while... sorry. I've gone a bit further than this already, but this is a good step. A week ago we pulled the engine...
Recap:
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Kind of took my time, had my long term buddy and fellow z owner Don helping. Beers were consumed of course and happily nobody was injured...
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And here's what I'll get back in a few months probably...
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Got the teardown in high gear now, so I'll show you some rust shortly...
Frank
Frank...Looking at those SU carbs just reminded me....I found in the back corner of the top shelf in my garage a can of Dash Pot Oil....from my MGA/MGB days back in the mid'70's....(40 years ago...gulp)
Dash Pot Oil....go figure.
I know that you want to keep it looking stock externally, hence the SU's, but are you going to do any tricks on the inside of the engine?
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 29, 2014, 02:11:32 AM
but are you going to do any tricks on the inside of the engine?
Of course... Dave Rebello is building a stroked 2.75liter lump he came up with for just this kind of thing. If you want to go into the 3liter realm, you need to go to a 280z block and I'd lose my "matching numbers" engine. He takes the original 240 block, slightly bores then uses the diesel crank (from the later 810/Maxima Diesel) to increase displacement, puts in a mild cam, adds porting and polishing, balance and tune, etc. The pictured engine is another guys motor he had ready for pickup to go in another early, matching numbers z. He handed me the dyno sheet for it... 225ftlb at 4,300 and 242Hp at 6,500 (stock was 146/151), so yes it will be a bit quicker than stock. I'm also adding a LSD to get the power down a bit more effectively.
Stock looking yes, but she'll have some secrets...
Frank
Yeppers...Rebello's is the top name here on the west coast.
Well known in the Miata crowd, they do amazing work.
Take a stock 1.8 Miata engine with 110rwhp/105ft.lb. Send it to the Bay Area and get back a 170rwhp/130ft.lb.normally aspirated engine that runs on pump gas, idles, and with the stock factory ECU passes the Ca.smog test........Gotta be Voodoo black magic. Their Mazda E class race engines get ~300 rwhp normally aspirated.
Their cam profiles are proprietary, as is their head work. They can get flow numbers out of the Mazda head that match flow numbers from the stock Honda F series head. (S2000)
Yep, They are the best.
Next update... car is now completely stripped down and I'm doing some rust neutralization before it goes to the body and paint guys. Every little piece is bagged and tagged awaiting restoration/replacement. Suspension and subframe parts out for rebuilding and powder coating. New interior vinyl/plastic parts on order... lots of balls in the air right now. Here are some pics:
Back on jack stands ready to strip
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Stripped mostly, ready to mount on rotisserie to get at the bottom
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On rotisserie, close to fully stripped and freshly degreased/pressure washed
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I'm guessing June for start of re-assy. I'll post pics of pretty parts as they return...
Frank
Looks good Frank. On the last picture you should have Photoshopped out that rotisserie...... :lol:
Nice work.
George
Going to do any media blasting? What's the process you are going to use to rebuild the finish?
Quite a project. Makes me want to take my '55 bird out of the garage and do some work on her...
That's a really cool project, keep the words and pics coming please.
I love the old 240z, my dad had a 72' 240z and I missed that car after he sold it. Thanks for the pictures Frank you're obviously a talented man, looks like you have a beautiful place there is sunny California!
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 02, 2014, 12:23:19 PM
Going to do any media blasting?
Not sure yet... the body guy will make the call, but he's typically not fond of blasting or dipping a car. He's also done dozens of concours Alfas, so I defer to his judgement pretty much. He's going to be doing lots of cutting, welding, leading, pounding, etc. Then we'll move it over to the paint guy...
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 02, 2014, 12:23:19 PM
What's the process you are going to use to rebuild the finish?
The paint guy I'm using did another z for me nearly 20 years ago... he's got it covered and has already procured the paint. Funny guy in that he won't really happily spray a color he doesn't like... doesn't need to I guess. Anyway, he loves the 907 dk green we're using... did a test piece to be sure. The last z was the 918 Orange (really common z color) and he insisted we add some yellow to get the "poop brown" out of it. He was right and the car is just a very clean looking 918 orange, even next to another 918 car. A very good friend bought it from me and still owns it... paint looks new at 20 yrs.
He's going to do the prep and prime with a tinted primer, then a single stage top coat. The paints these days kind of suck, but he's using a solvent based Spies Hecker he really likes in the original color... it was a 1 year only solid (non-metallic) dk green. I'm going for a better than original finish and will rust protect the full chassis (unlike factory... did you notice the under fender area is uncoated sheet metal!). I want it to be original plus with emphasis on functionality in the coatings department.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 02, 2014, 12:23:19 PM
Makes me want to take my '55 bird out of the garage and do some work on her...
... and
you're retired. What the hell are you waiting for... :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
Frank
Et Tu Brute?
I gotta listen to that same thing from SWMBO.... So I come here to the FJ Forum to escape, but nooooo...
I have too many projects. I'm currently resurrecting a Denver hard tail chopper I'm going to sell...
JMR would like this beast with a Honda CB750 and loooong springer front end.
I'll post some picts. which you will no doubt find amusing...
When are you going to have my chopper ready?
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 03, 2014, 12:59:00 AM
Et Tu Brute?
Should be "Et tu Wizard"... no?
I'll refrain from any further guilt inducing commentary... please forgive. :flag_of_truce:
Frank
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 02, 2014, 12:23:19 PM
Quite a project. Makes me want to take my '55 bird out of the garage and do some work on her...
Bird? As in
1955 Ford Thunderbird???
Here's Dad's, next to my Miata...
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Rossi
Quote from: rlucas on March 03, 2014, 08:44:41 PM
Bird? As in 1955 Ford Thunderbird???
Here's Dad's, next to my Miata...
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We had a red '55 when I was a teenager, but, in an exhibition of sound judgment, he wouldn't let me drive it. I did, however, get to drive thi http://i1350.photobucket.com/albums/p779/rocklucas9/P1000031_zps608d45ca.jpg (http://i1350.photobucket.com/albums/p779/rocklucas9/P1000031_zps608d45ca.jpg) s one to a local festival in home town last summer (the source of the photo) and I found out that, due to my height, I just don't fit. The red one was an automatic; this one's a 4-speed. When I try to depress the clutch, my left knee hits the door panel or that skinny, 45" diameter steering wheel.
Rossi
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Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 02, 2014, 12:23:19 PM
Quite a project. Makes me want to take my '55 bird out of the garage and do some work on her...
Bird? As in
1955 Ford Thunderbird???
Sorry. F'd up the cut'n'paste. Trying again...
Here's Dad's, next to my Miata...
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We had a red '55 when I was a teenager, but, in an exhibition of sound judgment, he wouldn't let me drive it. I did, however, get to drive this one to a local festival in home town last summer (the source of the photo) and I found out that, due to my height, I just don't fit. The red one was an automatic; this one's a 4-speed. When I try to depress the clutch, my left knee hits the door panel or that skinny, 45" diameter steering wheel.
Rossi
Lib, you beat me by 3 seconds. Damned slow connection...
Very nice Rossi. Do they call that color Sea Green? It's a beauty. Kudos to your Pop.
My '55 was also my dad's so I guess it's still technically a one owner car. I got my drivers license in that car. I drove it all through high school. My dad's strict instructions was to keep it stock and I did...for the most part, except the time I put some 'cherry bomb' glass packs on the dual exhaust. Pop was not happy. He said it sounded like a fuckin tractor...said that it was "a stupid move." I said, "How come?" He said, "Now we know what time you come home at night 'cause we can hear that car coming a mile away, you dummy"....
My bird is Ford White in color with red and white interior, 292 with the Ford'o'matic 3 speed auto. And with the electric adjustable bench seat I fit in it fine. I did convert it over to 12v negative ground from the original 6 volt positive ground, that's about it.
I currently have the engine out replacing the valves, seats and guides with harder material so I can safely use unleaded gas.
Gotta get that chopper out of the way first....
Kinda funny that we like Miata's, we both have FJ's and our dads had T-Birds...go figure. Cheers. Paddy
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 04, 2014, 01:54:11 AM
Kinda funny that we like Miata's, we both have FJ's and our dads had T-Birds...go figure. Cheers. Paddy
Don't forget...we both have hair that's simply
fabulous. At least we did, 'til I shaved mine off.
rossi
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 04, 2014, 01:54:11 AM
Do they call that color Sea Green?
I once worked in a factory where
everything was painted that color... Rust-oleum calls it Seafoam Green.
Of course, we quickly re-named it Seasick Green. :bad:
Imports, I grew up being taught they were the enemy in 4 wheel versions. In high school days small block chevy"s would walk through those cars and we took our cars off road,we used them for camping and we pounded these chevs, put on thousands of hard miles with little issue., no room for anything in those Z,try tearing off a piece a tail in one!! My friends and I never seen the hype about those cars. Of coarse this is my opinion and a very small one at that. We grew up being told they were taking away good north american jobs! propaganda at work or fact, I dont care anymore. And that 1000hp video with that very lovely young lady in the car, come on now, 1000 hp. Not saying it cant be done or hasn't been done but I would need to see that one on a dyno to believe it. Cheers to the big three and all our favorites :hi:
Quote from: gumby302ho on March 05, 2014, 12:38:37 PM
Imports, I grew up being taught they were the enemy in 4 wheel versions.
I was a redneck too... but that was a different time and competition has proven who was "right". The target was Triumph, MG, and to a lesser extent Porsche, so the z was not taking many US jobs anyway. Now days most all Nissans consumed in the US are made here, just without the fucked up UAW bullshit that destroyed the US auto industry. What I liked most about the z is it chased the period Brit crap off our shores within a few short years... Katayama-san (the father of the z) was the most American Japanese guy you'd ever meet and built a car specifically for the US market that Nissan wanted to kill, until they sold 180,000 of them in 3 years.
Quote from: gumby302ho on March 05, 2014, 12:38:37 PM
In high school days small block chevy"s would walk through those cars..
This a bullshit fantasy you're recalling... my buddy had a stock but well tuned '72 240z that would squirt around small and big block Chevy's of the day (all choked to shit with smog equipment in those days) in any stoplight encounter. The big block (454ci) corvette of the day was like 270 Hp and the z blew it out in street use... lighter, better suspension, better power to weight AND it could turn (unlike the Chevelle et. al.). Sorry, but the z was flat out superior and 1/2 the price of the competition.
What are you restoring?
Frank
Thanks for a little history on your Z cars. the exception to the rule for these cars that had high output at the cost of big bucks. Sure they had power to weight going for them being so small and I am glad they helped chase Morris Garage from american roads like you say. That big block you speak of came from the most shit years of the smog days so yes I agree with the lame output. That being said say a 74 laguna with a real 454 breather with radial tuned suspension or a nice cammed and headed small block would kill those cars in real world driving, we smoked those sewing machines is all I am saying. Stick 30 000 grand into the motor and I would be impressed with the little guy. Again I did say small opinion and I am not a red neck but a cheap prick who likes gobs of torque from lots of cubes, thats why I also love the FJ. I new I would get some flack and I respect your facts and views. My bigger play toy project is a 468 mill chev 79 malibu 4 dr ford 9 inch, 350 gears bla bla bla Its a sleeper project that can still drive the family around. No doubt thats sounds a little red neckish to you but its different strokes for different folks right. :hi:
Quote from: rlucas on March 04, 2014, 09:45:30 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 04, 2014, 01:54:11 AM
Kinda funny that we like Miata's, we both have FJ's and our dads had T-Birds...go figure. Cheers. Paddy
Don't forget...we both have hair that's simply fabulous. At least we did, 'til I shaved mine off.
rossi
Shaved you say?
Your hair, shaved clean off?
Has the world gone quite mad?
Pics or it didn't happen.
Quote from: Klavdy on March 08, 2014, 05:33:42 PM
Shaved you say?
Your hair, shaved clean off?
Has the world gone quite mad?
Pics or it didn't happen.
Hide the women and children...
Currently:
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tRoy's speculative PhotoShop job from a few years back. Pretty accurate.
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rossi
Hmmmm,,,
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Quote from: gumby302ho on March 08, 2014, 11:37:33 AM
I new I would get some flack...
Glad to not disappoint... only the most loving flack intended. :drinks:
Quote from: gumby302ho on March 08, 2014, 11:37:33 AM
My bigger play toy project is a 468 mill chev 79 malibu 4 dr ford 9 inch, 350 gears bla bla bla Its a sleeper project...
I like that kind too... one of the ZONC (z owners northern ca) members took a '72, tubbed it, and installed a 454 with about 750Hp naturally aspirated. F'ing crazy, but so well done it is spectacularly crazy. One of the things I like about the z cars is the diversity of different strokes you'll see... and the different folks you'll meet. The same is true for the Mustang club (VMOA) that we also participate in (Wifey has a '66 A-code GT that has been on a rotisserie as well). I just love machines in the end and cars/bikes are the most fun machines I've found. Glad to see you enjoy as well.
Frank
Just spotted this 240Z video, lol.
Lovers of pristine hardware might want to skip this one. :shok:
Junkyard Turbo Swap! Chevy-Powered 1971 Datsun 240Z Autocross Thrash - Roadkill Ep. 26 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcjC00J8FaM#ws)
Next update... chassis gone to body and paint guys.
Here's some glam shots of the chassis... really straight and nice starting point, given the propensity of these things to get thrashed by idiots while they're rusting away (there's actually a "Rotsun" car club in SF area running hotted up Datsun rust buckets around in packs).
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Here's the trailer and the chassis/rotisserie inside. I decided an enclosed trailer would be best... at least contain the parts (vs yard-sale on the freeway) if something went wrong while moving it on the rotisserie. Also made taking the other parts up a breeze... just laid them out on the floor.
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Finally, here she is in the metal guy's shop (he does concourse Alfa Romeo's out of this place, so I'm hoping for the best). Pictured are me, Andy (painter), and Larry (mr metal)... they estimate early May for return.
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I also sent out most everything for plating, coating, reconditioning, etc. Engine work is nearly complete and I'll start getting coated parts back within a few weeks... so time to sort out my storage plan for the "ready to re-assemble" stuff.
Kind of miss the driveway art... lot's of neighbors stopped in when they'd see me out there fiddling with it. Some even brought tools over to help me out along the way. I should have a rusty POS in the driveway at all times probably... :dash1: :dash2: :dash1:
Frank
PS - moving the chassis got my '72 accessible, so Diane and I took the toys out for a play date last Sunday... that's her '69 Mustang GT in front.
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BWAHahahahahahaha :sarcastic: i miss you!
Quote from: rlucas on March 08, 2014, 06:33:10 PM
tRoy's speculative PhotoShop job from a few years back. Pretty accurate.
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Quote from: Flynt on March 22, 2014, 11:37:35 AM
Next update... chassis gone to body and paint guys.
And now it is back...
After all metal work and primer were on chassis, we test fit fender, doors, hatch, and hood (all had been blasted to bare). Then Andy (paint guy) removed, took them to finished on inside and primer outside. Then we fitted again and he sprayed the whole thing together.
Fitting parts...
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Fitting again in primer...
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Rolling into my garage with the help of potential "Drinks Bitch" Dan (new windows/stucco going on house as well right now... accidental schedule collision)...
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And I'm getting a steady flow of parts back from plating guy now...
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I'll start to assemble once the house project is done... 2-3 weeks I think. Engine is done awaiting dyno tune, suspension and interior stuff should be ready within a month. Maybe back together by September...
Frank
Awesome pics!
What an amazing transformation so far............. :good2:
I was just thinking about your z project. Glad you updated us. Looks very nice.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 02, 2014, 12:23:19 PM
What's the process you are going to use to rebuild the finish?
Painting process:
1. strip to bare metal,
2. 2-stage epoxy primer, lt gray,
3. black primer and block sand... repeat,
4. 2 coats single stage tinted primer, matched to finish coat,
5. block sand smooth
6. 2 color coats with wet sanding
7. 2 clear coats with polish,
still to come:
8. wet sanding any remaining defects,
9. full polish, swirl removal, detail and wax before any badges/lights/bumpers/etc go on.
I'm also waxing the underside while on the rotisserie and before putting parts back on. It is the same paint process on everything inside and out... It has 2.5 gallons of paint on it and is hopefully fully rust-proof at this point. What do you think about the name Kermit, or maybe Hulk for this one?
Frank
PS - not insignificant cutting and welding was required as well, especially in battery box area where acid had f'd things up pretty good. Roof, fenders, and hatch all had rust that needed to be cut out... and this was a clean one!
Have put some energy into the z of late. I have almost all of the parts to put it together, now just time limits my progress. Here's where she is now:
In garage, still on rotisserie:
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A few pics of new parts installed. Brake and fuel lines, parking brake, rear control arm pivot, mustache bar, electrical harness complete, headliner in, etc...
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In addition I have the dash built and on shelf ready to install, the motor/trans is at builder (Rebello racing) tuned and ready to install (243Hp I think), all suspension bits powder coated with fresh hardware and some slightly lower Eibach springs, differential (now LSD) complete, seats, etc cluttering up my garage and house... Time to move this one along. Hope to be back on wheels and engine/running/drivable automobile by April or so. I am getting excited now, so it may speed up a bit.
Frank
Awesome. Thanks for the updates.
Very nice Frank....as you start bolting things to the body (adding weight) sooner or later, (I suggest sooner) you will have to take it off the rotisserie, or your doors won't close.
It would be a shame to put a crimp in that beautiful body.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 14, 2015, 09:51:58 PM
you will have to take it off the rotisserie...
Yep. One more thing goes on before I flip it over, transfer to jack stands for a few hours, and then set her down on her wheels. That's the parking brake handle and I'm mid-stream into the pillar upholstery, so I'll finish that. Then off the rack.
I'm going to be happy to get off the "R"... makes me nervous to have the car upside down.
Frank
Frank, that is some mighty fine hardware you have going on under there.
It's a shame, once it's on the ground, no one will be able to see how pretty it is on the underside.
I have a question about the strap looking thing in the driveshaft tunnel area. Is it to contain the driveshaft in the event of u-joint failure?
Quote from: Firehawk068 on January 14, 2015, 11:39:00 PM
the strap looking thing in the driveshaft tunnel area...
holds down the front of the differential... The strap is NOS even with the nicks you see. It is what you got at the time.
Frank
Quote from: Flynt on January 15, 2015, 12:04:58 AM
Quote from: Firehawk068 on January 14, 2015, 11:39:00 PM
the strap looking thing in the driveshaft tunnel area...
holds down the front of the differential... The strap is NOS even with the nicks you see. It is what you got at the time.
Frank
Wow...you mean that was an OEM "anti-wrap" solution from Datsun?
Aaaaah, I see. So the pinion doesn't come close to hitting the floor under hard acceleration.
With 243 horsepower or so, I'm sure you'll need it! :yahoo:
Forgive me, I am not that familiar with the older Z-cars. Are these solid axle cars, or is the diff mounted to the framework, and it uses halfshafts?
From the pics, it looks to be the latter. With the diff cradle mounted solidly between the black bar and the floor of the car, you wouldn't think you would need that strap, unless the mounts had alot of give to them.
Quote from: Firehawk068 on January 15, 2015, 07:43:20 AM
Forgive me, I am not that familiar with the older Z-cars. Are these solid axle cars, or is the diff mounted to the framework, and it uses halfshafts?
From the pics, it looks to be the latter. With the diff cradle mounted solidly between the black bar and the floor of the car, you wouldn't think you would need that strap, unless the mounts had alot of give to them.
Rear is IRS with power getting to the wheels via half shafts. The Diff is mounted to the "mustache bar" at the rear. That bar has big bushings on either end to spread the torque out to the frame rails. It also has a rubber mount on the bottom near the front, attaching to a part I haven't installed yet. The strap goes across the top in front just ahead of the bottom mount and is likely there more as insurance in case your bushings are soft as you say. With fresh bushings or urethane/Al mounts, you don't really need the strap.
Frank
Wow! Some of you guys amaze me with what you can do in your driveway. I guess it helps that it hasn't rained there in years (?)
This brings back memories from around 1980 of my friend who decided to buy an early Z sight unseen from a guy in Michigan. We towed it 100 miles back into Ontario with a rope. When we removed the floor mats, the floor came with it. When we removed the doors, the A pillars nearly collapsed. His dad was less than enthusiastic to say the least, seeing it was taking up most of the space in his shop. I think it went something like "Get that P.O.S. outta' here!" Luckily it had a set of trick aftermarket aluminum wheels, and was equipped with two carbs off a Jag. He was able to flog those and some other parts to get his money back, then I think the remainder was scrapped.
These cars didn`t last long with the salted roads in winter. Most early Japanese cars would rot away within 3yrs or so, just like the Hyundais did in the 80`s. I`ve only seen two old Z`s on the road in the Toronto area within the last 10 yrs. They`re even pretty rare at vintage car shows.
On a note about Mr Katayama, I had read or saw something about the early Z's. In Japan they were called (and I believe may still be) a Fairlady. Obviously he was well aware that was the kiss of death for the American market, but the head honchos in Japan refused to change the name. So before the first boatload arrived in California, he had the 240Z badges made. After the Z's were unloaded, he removed all the Fairlady badges and installed the 240Z ones. The rest as they say is history. Or so I heard, or saw.....
Look forward to the continuing reports.
Then theres the story of my other friend and the Sunbeam Alpine... with the fungus growing in the cylinders... :rofl:
Quote from: Capn Ron on January 15, 2015, 12:47:31 AM
Wow...you mean that was an OEM "anti-wrap" solution from Datsun?
Yep. It's a belt and suspenders kind of thing though with a bolted on mount on the bottom just about where the strap is. Not sure why they decided to do it, although it would save the day if your front diff mount parted. Maybe it is a nod to the z's motorsport intentions...
Frank
Quote from: PaulG on January 15, 2015, 09:12:42 AM
After the Z's were unloaded, he removed all the Fairlady badges and installed the 240Z ones...
True story for the first ~500 cars... then Nissan gave in. Mine is one of those early ones and came with most of these pre-production badges, they're different then the first "production" metal badges that were obviously out of a nice mold... mine look like they were sand cast.
Frank
Looking good frank . :good2:
now you just need a small aluminum v-8 to go in there. :wacko2: Tr-8 maybe.
correct me if wrong but wasn't the TR8 mill from a Land Rover and generally not held in high esteem?
Of course it would be sinful to swap in a number-matched collector car, but seems to me a 302 would be the lump of choice if you went that route.
The TR8 engine was the 3.5L Rover engine.
It was purchased from GM where it had been known as the 215 cu.in. all-aluminum V8 that was used in the "compact" Olds and Buicks of about 1960. (I had a 1961 Olds 'F85' with this engine)
Pretty light engine (in its time) but not as compact as the Ford V8 of 260/289/305 cu.in sizes.
Arnie
I seem to recall the original 240z weighed less than a 90 Miata. So with 240 some horsepower the car will run along just fine without a V-8. As I once owned a Miata myself the idea of a well balanced lightweight car is not lost on me. Plus that inline 6 is smooth as butter.
I also owned an 86 Mustang GT Cobra and understand that feeling of a 302. Like a smack across the back of ones head. Just two totally different forms of awesome.
Quote from: Arnie on January 15, 2015, 06:44:30 PM
The TR8 engine was the 3.5L Rover engine.
It was purchased from GM where it had been known as the 215 cu.in. all-aluminum V8 that was used in the "compact" Olds and Buicks of about 1960. (I had a 1961 Olds 'F85' with this engine)
Pretty light engine (in its time) but not as compact as the Ford V8 of 260/289/305 cu.in sizes.
Arnie
I remember those engines. Bad problems with overheating and warped heads as my neighbors did twice under warranty. Dave
Quote from: Mark Olson on January 15, 2015, 03:43:41 PM
now you just need a small aluminum v-8 to go in there.
z's really need a frame kit added if you want to go v8... I think it is a fine path, just not one that interests me. My '72 has a 280Hp/215ftlb L6 engine (it is a stroked 280z motor with 3.0 liter displacement) and I think it is nearly the perfect engine for the 240z. I think the '69 engine will feel really similar since the chassis is a bit over 100 lbs lighter. For this car the #s match part is critical, so doesn't matter much anyway.
I have seen 700 Hp chevy BB with blower in a z... bet that was a fun one.
Frank
Frank, how much do the 240Z's weigh?
My '99 10AE Miata comes in at 2,420lbs with a half tank of gas.
Frank, from memory, the 240Z had a better power to weight ration than either the 260Z or 280Z in stock form owing to the bloat that occurred with each succeeding model. I know when I had mine back in the early '70s it was awesome quick!
Harvy
Quote from: Arnie on January 15, 2015, 06:44:30 PM
The TR8 engine was the 3.5L Rover engine.
It was purchased from GM where it had been known as the 215 cu.in. all-aluminum V8 that was used in the "compact" Olds and Buicks of about 1960. (I had a 1961 Olds 'F85' with this engine)
Pretty light engine (in its time) but not as compact as the Ford V8 of 260/289/305 cu.in sizes.
Arnie
I really liked the looks of the F85's.
I believe 305 was GM, the Ford was/is 302 (or stroked to 351). Go Fast parts for the Ford motors abound.
My '72 has a 280Hp/215ftlb L6 engine (it is a stroked 280z motor with 3.0 liter displacement) and I think it is nearly the perfect engine for the 240z.
280Hp/215ftlb L6 engine (it is a stroked 280z motor with 3.0 liter displacement) and I think it is nearly the perfect engine for the 240z.
I'd think that's pushin' the pumpkin. If you put enough rubber on it to hook that torque up and make a habit of hard launches I suspect dif's will be short lived.
But "too much" is "just right" if judiciously applied.
I'm feelin the roll on.
Quote from: Burns on January 15, 2015, 09:10:16 PM
If you put enough rubber on it to hook that torque up and make a habit of hard launches I suspect dif's will be short lived.
245-17 Michelin Pilot Sport 2, 225-17 on the front. Has a 3.7:1 limited slip from a later datsun turbo... Also R200 vs stock R180 model Diff and the former can take 1000Hp reportedly in limited slip setups. It is like a fucking go kart! One of my buddies calls it surgical and another tried his best to lock the brakes (custom 4 wheel Stoptech setup made by Rob Fuller of Z Car Garage in San Jose) over a 20 mile surface street trip... about broke my neck, but the brakes are ungodly powerful and well balanced.
That z is fully sound dead with Dynamat, rides really nice on coilovers with Tokiko Illumina adjustable struts (1 on street, 3 in canyon, 5 on track), has a nice tune with only a little warmup ritual that takes 2-3 minutes, looks and feels like a modern sports car. It is also light and fast, just a bit more civilized.
The '69 will be back to raw z for me after having my last one 20 years ago ('73 I sold to our buddy Dan from the WCR incident) only for a brief time when I bought it in 1994. The mod bug bit me on that one and it ended up with a road race 2.4l from Rebello Racing with triple Webers on it. They're fine cars even stock and the early ones like this new one had no emission controls at all... and 243Hp!! I gotta believe this thing is going to be fun...
Frank
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 15, 2015, 07:52:32 PM
Frank, how much do the 240Z's weigh?
The '72 weighs in at about 2450... The '69 should be 2175 or so... I'm not adding much weight beyond stock, except for maybe 15lb of additional insulation. I got this stuff called "Damplifier" and it is a pretty cool product. very light and very effective.
Frank
BTW - data says the '69 will be slower, but still <10#/Hp which is when cars start to get fun some say...
2450/280 = 8.75#/Hp
2175/243 = 8.95#/Hp
Quote from: TexasDave on January 15, 2015, 07:14:30 PM
Quote from: Arnie on January 15, 2015, 06:44:30 PM
The TR8 engine was the 3.5L Rover engine.
It was purchased from GM where it had been known as the 215 cu.in. all-aluminum V8 that was used in the "compact" Olds and Buicks of about 1960. (I had a 1961 Olds 'F85' with this engine)
Pretty light engine (in its time) but not as compact as the Ford V8 of 260/289/305 cu.in sizes.
Arnie
I remember those engines. Bad problems with overheating and warped heads as my neighbors did twice under warranty. Dave
I love the history of this engine but I'm probably the only one, so, briefly, the warped heads were the least of their problems, they dropped cylinder liners!
After British Leyland (Rover) started making them, they fitted them to everything, Rovers, Land Rovers, MGB V8's TR8's, Morgans, P76's, TVR's and many more I can't remember off hand.
At peak production 1500 engines a week were rolling off the production lines. By the mid 90's tolerances had nearly doubled and this resulted in a whole swag of issues, most notably the dropped sleeves. The liners were a shrink fit in the block and were no longer a tight enough fit. A single overheating episode could dislodge one, or even without overheating. Most of the issues occurred at relatively low mileage.
Rover, as an act of good faith, were supplying new blocks worldwide for a $1000 to those suffering this problem beyond the warranty period, trouble was, the blocks were coming off the same production line that produced the duds in the first place. The cost of installing a new block was enormous but justified by the cars still high market value.
The best fix was machining a rebate into the block and fitting top hat liners but of course now, the cars are not worth enough to warrant any of these repairs.
I have owned a number of these engines over the years, from one of my favourite cars, a Rover PB5 coupe to my current daily driver, a Land Rover Discovery. The thinking seems to be that if one survives to high mileage without incident, and you don't let it get hot, it will probably last until something else gives out. Even so, I listen for that rattle every time I start it up.
Noel
Quote from: Flynt on January 16, 2015, 12:53:57 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 15, 2015, 07:52:32 PM
Frank, how much do the 240Z's weigh?
The '72 weighs in at about 2450... The '69 should be 2175 or so... I'm not adding much weight beyond stock, except for maybe 15lb of additional insulation. I got this stuff called "Damplifier" and it is a pretty cool product. very light and very effective.
Frank
BTW - data says the '69 will be slower, but still <10#/Hp which is when cars start to get fun some say...
2450/280 = 8.75#/Hp
2175/243 = 8.95#/Hp
Oh boy Frank , that is gonna be a fun ride. :good:
Power to weight ratio is what it is all about, and the reason I suggested a aluminum v-8 . I had some fun with the buick 215 (tr-8) back in the day when I worked in the machine shop and used to fix the sleeves as Noel has pointed out.
Also the early Cadillac 4.1 was fun to overbore and sleeve and make a high powered light v-8.
Sounds like you have it well in hand with what you have already. I look forward to more pics and reports of this awesome project. :dance2:
P.S. Give a shout out to Dan , Is he all healed up and ready for the next WCR? It was a Treat to meet another FJ'er with a side of crazy.
mighty stiff pumpkin ya got there, Pilgrim. Sound like you have it sorted out for a fantastic automobile experience. Sweet.
Next update... I've been nibbling away at it and am almost ready to add an engine. First will be the brake booster and mc, then bleed brakes and get her fully rolling chassis qualified with brakes and all. Then comes engine and putting interior together. She's on her wheels and getting a little more complete every day.
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Frank
Looking really good Frank, keep it coming!!! Seeing the build is good stuff...
Awesome work there Gandolf !!!! Thought I would keep the "Z" fire burning....mine is finally off to the body shop.....Zoe has been on the burner too long.....but alas....I see the light at the end of this tunnel.....
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....off to the shop to complete the body work and paint......then it's just the inside and some engine parts to swap......hopefully she'll be done by Late May.....can't wait.... :dash2:
Good stuff Frank.....when are you looking at finishing?
Kev
Quote from: CanDman on April 02, 2015, 09:58:01 PM
when are you looking at finishing?
Depends on what finished actually means, but assembled/running/driving should be mid-summer latest. Some things I'm doing will need to be redone with correct '69 stuff if I can find it one day. The heater control panel as an example... I'll either need to do a re-fabrication of my heavily tattered part or find a better core and start from there, but the early version that came in my car is recognizably different in a couple of very small ways (like size of lettering molded into the part). I've got a NOS later version that will look perfect to all but the expert, but it will nag at me until I get it right.
I'm picking away at details with a steady pace now and hope to install the engine before the WCR...
Frank
PS - that's one wild looking 300ZX you're creating there Sweets. What is the inspiration? Mechanical details? Color(s)?
Quote from: Flynt on April 03, 2015, 09:39:10 AM
Quote from: CanDman on April 02, 2015, 09:58:01 PM
when are you looking at finishing?
Depends on what finished actually means, but assembled/running/driving should be mid-summer latest. Some things I'm doing will need to be redone with correct '69 stuff if I can find it one day. The heater control panel as an example... I'll either need to do a re-fabrication of my heavily tattered part or find a better core and start from there, but the early version that came in my car is recognizably different in a couple of very small ways (like size of lettering molded into the part). I've got a NOS later version that will look perfect to all but the expert, but it will nag at me until I get it right.
I'm picking away at details with a steady pace now and hope to install the engine before the WCR...
Frank
PS - that's one wild looking 300ZX you're creating there Sweets. What is the inspiration? Mechanical details? Color(s)?
I like what you're doing Frankie !!! we have to hook up when everything is finished.....maybe next summer I will trailer Zoe and CanD out your way for a short stay.....we could go "Out for a Rip" lol....
My inspiration.....hmmmm......welll my first car was the 86 300zx tubo back in 86.....idiot that I am....I walked into the Nissan showroom....saw the beauty....dropped my jaw and drove out with it some 30 days later.
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Anyway, I had it for 3 years and then sold it in 89. The next year while I was up north in a small town north of Toronto, I came upon the newly released 300zx Z32 twin turbo and went into convulsions !! :dash2:...... but at 55 grand new, it was way out of reach. Nine years later I found a 93 on sale for a great price and picked it up ( on my Birthday-I'm so good to myself.. :mocking: !! ) and have had it since. From the day I first saw the TT, I loved everything about it except the rear wheel well....I thought that they left the rear too straight (no curve like it has at the front) so I thought if I ever bought one, the first thing I would do was widen the rear....well I searched around for years until I found the wide kit designed for that car, through a company out in England (The "Z" Centre - you may have heard of them). I got the history behind the kit.....quite a story....anyways....as I poked around more, I found more things that fell into my vision for the Car......I have been at this thing for 3 years and will finally get her done this summer.....fingers crossed. I am itching to drive her again.....miss pulling up to the golf course with her and pulling out my clubs (it's a moment for me when I can look up to the sky and smile up at the man and say...wow....life is good !!! :yahoo: ).
Projects like this, I believe are good for the soul......tests a man on so many levels.... well........ I am about to upgrade the turbos, down pipes, Haltech Pro plug in, bigger injector 800 cc...and a few other goodies...... the colour will be 70% (glass) black and 30% (glass) red ........should be pretty cool when finished......I have already started some minor donny brooks on facebook because of her uniqueness......my motto has always been.....why do something that has already been done before........lol.......out of the box thinking can frighten those who live in a cage..... well carry on fellow FJ / "Z" brother...... :drinks: Shadowfax.....away :bye2:
Kev
Kevin,
You should paint her like the 300-ZX IMSA GTO/GT-1 cars, driven by Steve Millen, Johnny O'Connell, and Jeremy Dale from back in the day. :biggrin:
I watched these cars race at Watkins Glen.
The early ones were a Twin-Turbo V6
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Some time around 1995, Nissan switched them to a Naturally Aspirated V8 for 1 season.
I always loved these cars, and enjoyed watching them compete. :good2:
Quote from: Firehawk068 on April 03, 2015, 09:14:20 PM
Kevin,
You should paint her like the 300-ZX IMSA GTO/GT-1 cars, driven by Steve Millen, Johnny O'Connell, and Jeremy Dale from back in the day. :biggrin:
I watched these cars race at Watkins Glen.
The early ones were a Twin-Turbo V6
(http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab154/firehawk068/Nissan%20300ZX%20IMSA%20GTO%20GT-1/intro02_L_zpsibcgifvp.jpg) (http://s859.photobucket.com/user/firehawk068/media/Nissan%20300ZX%20IMSA%20GTO%20GT-1/intro02_L_zpsibcgifvp.jpg.html)
(http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab154/firehawk068/Nissan%20300ZX%20IMSA%20GTO%20GT-1/23589212_762_zpsyq9tz9q2.jpg) (http://s859.photobucket.com/user/firehawk068/media/Nissan%20300ZX%20IMSA%20GTO%20GT-1/23589212_762_zpsyq9tz9q2.jpg.html)
(http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab154/firehawk068/Nissan%20300ZX%20IMSA%20GTO%20GT-1/le-mans-imsa-gts-winning-1994-nissan-300zx_100474330_l_zpscvjnk1yb.jpg) (http://s859.photobucket.com/user/firehawk068/media/Nissan%20300ZX%20IMSA%20GTO%20GT-1/le-mans-imsa-gts-winning-1994-nissan-300zx_100474330_l_zpscvjnk1yb.jpg.html)
(http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab154/firehawk068/Nissan%20300ZX%20IMSA%20GTO%20GT-1/RACER-1994-Nissan-300ZX-IMSA-GTS-Visor-Cam-v-1rwG0Cs9V2Q_zpsel9k5zkl.jpg) (http://s859.photobucket.com/user/firehawk068/media/Nissan%20300ZX%20IMSA%20GTO%20GT-1/RACER-1994-Nissan-300ZX-IMSA-GTS-Visor-Cam-v-1rwG0Cs9V2Q_zpsel9k5zkl.jpg.html)
(http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab154/firehawk068/Nissan%20300ZX%20IMSA%20GTO%20GT-1/IMSA300ZX_zpsazqlfm59.jpg) (http://s859.photobucket.com/user/firehawk068/media/Nissan%20300ZX%20IMSA%20GTO%20GT-1/IMSA300ZX_zpsazqlfm59.jpg.html)
(http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab154/firehawk068/Nissan%20300ZX%20IMSA%20GTO%20GT-1/3412789575_741531dfaa_b_zpsxilnf5sv.jpg) (http://s859.photobucket.com/user/firehawk068/media/Nissan%20300ZX%20IMSA%20GTO%20GT-1/3412789575_741531dfaa_b_zpsxilnf5sv.jpg.html)
Some time around 1995, Nissan switched them to a Naturally Aspirated V8 for 1 season.
I always loved these cars, and enjoyed watching them compete. :good2:
Thx Firehawk.....ya back then, that car won it all !!! this 300zx tt was rated top ten sports cars ever built back in 92.....I love it......if I had a billion dollars in the account I would still own one and drive it everywhere !!!! lol ....
Kev
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 15, 2015, 10:03:02 AM
Seeing the build is good stuff...
OK... I've been a slacker and am fully a year off what I hoped would be the completion date. But I have made progress and am in the home stretch now...
Engine is in and nearly completed
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Interior is insulated and ready for vinyl... I have it already, just waiting in the box. Getting help from my oldest since she's anxiously awaiting a ride...
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Glass is in front, rear, and rear quarters... side windows are next
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It is actually looking like a car now. All the interior stuff like dash, center console, heater control panel, etc are assembled and ready once the vinyl is in place. Won't be done by WCR, but I expect it will be done by July 4th... finally!
Frank
Looking awesome Frank, you have the Midas touch.
Twin SU's, I remember those.....
Last year I was digging thru my fluid's closet and came across a can of dash pot oil....from my early MGA/MGB days.
I had to laugh, recalling all the work I put into those cars. Makes me really appreciate my Miata.
Beautiful!
There was one like it on one of the Classic Cars t.v. shows (IDK what channel, it's a hotel room and I'm not familiar with the lineup.) Green, Panasports, everything. I think it went $27,500 at auction at the end of that show.
I got to drive around in a mostly-stock '78 280z for half a year while we were putting the Miata together. It was a delight, with the strong midrange and unassisted steering. Every time I drove it, someone wanted to tell me about one they used to have, so I used to have to factor that into my commute plans. "School lets out in an hour, it's nice out... I better leave in ten minutes, or I'll be stuck in carpool forever unless I roll up the windows and pretend the a/c works so I don't have to talk to people at stoplights."
My buddy's z 383 stroker motor.
Quote from: giantkiller on April 29, 2016, 10:35:01 AM
My buddy's z 383 stroker motor.
Wild looking ride. One of my favorite things about the z cars is how easy they are to personalize. I've now had 5 of them (2 currently) and they've all had a different objective through the build process. I've seen some wild ones like an immaculate bright yellow street legal dragster with a 750HP blown SBC. Here's my '72 which is pretty highly modified as you can see.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7349/9925087053_02b9eccd06_c.jpg)
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The '69 will be stock looking with a stroked L24 #'s matching motor, LSD, and slightly lowered on Eibach springs... as one of the 1st 500 z's, this one is getting my best efforts to make it perfect again.
Frank
I like how you shaved the rain rails on your '72. Very clean body lines! Sublime...
Is that EFI I see? If so, what system did you use?
Quote from: Flynt on April 30, 2016, 10:36:24 AM
Quote from: giantkiller on April 29, 2016, 10:35:01 AM
My buddy's z 383 stroker motor.
Wild looking ride. One of my favorite things about the z cars is how easy they are to personalize. I've now had 5 of them (2 currently) and they've all had a different objective through the build process. I've seen some wild ones like an immaculate bright yellow street legal dragster with a 750HP blown SBC. Here's my '72 which is pretty highly modified as you can see.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7349/9925087053_02b9eccd06_c.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5473/9925085653_ee28c2410d_c.jpg)
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2889/9924978004_81c89ef7e6_c.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7382/9925082303_04ae1d6121_c.jpg)
The '69 will be stock looking with a stroked L24 #'s matching motor, LSD, and slightly lowered on Eibach springs... as one of the 1st 500 z's, this one is getting my best efforts to make it perfect again.
Frank
That is one gorgeous car. Wow.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 30, 2016, 11:13:12 AM
Is that EFI I see? If so, what system did you use?
TWM throttle bodies and fuel rail, RC injectors, and Electromotive TEC2 (yes, very old school). All tuned by Vic Sias on the dyno. Runs like a hose.
Frank
I was just thinking about your Green Z project the other day, and wondering how progress was coming along.
Thanks for posting up. I love these cars! (your '72 is fantastic as well) :good2:
Long time between updates on the '69 240z, but it is getting close. I'm taking to my buddy's place (Z Car Garage in San Jose) late October for final checks and careful startup... The owner is a good friend and has helped a little along the way, so he's happy to be involved in the re-animation. Here a few pics with the car basically done.
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Here's some "before" shots for comparison...
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Glad to be finishing up...
Then I found a new distraction... Found at a Harley Dealer in Folsom at ~$2,500 below KBB (the only non-HD in the place and they didn't realize it is the HP/Motorsport edition, so they sold at regular K13S pricing. 2015 model with 2 years and ~30Kmi left on warranty. Picked it up yesterday and rode it home last night (Sorry I didn't have time to check-in with the Folsom FJ boys). So we're now a 5 bike family...
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8604/29138570693_df8757dd06_z.jpg)
Frank
Geez Frank , we were just out riding today ....
Great looking bike ... Man you got all the toys... oh and the Z looks great too. :good2:
It lives... Finally. The birthing process has been underway for the past week and there's still plenty of little stuff to deal with, but it runs and drives now. The engines a Dave Rebello built "purist" 2.7liter built on the original #'s matching block... looks completely stock until you start it up and hear the lumpy idle. It has a slight overbore, diesel crank, and a pretty aggressive cam, but drives very nicely on the street.
It goes back to paint guy for final cut and polish, then I'll install the badges. Debut is a Z car event at the Blackhawk museum on 5/20. I'll post pics from that event to cap off this thread...
couple pics...
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Frank
Very nice Frank
IMO
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on April 29, 2017, 10:22:39 AM
Very nice Frank
IMO
Noel
Thank you Noel. I'm happy with how it has turned out, but really didn't think this would be a 3.5 year project. Stopping to get it (whatever "it" was at the time) right at each step really stretches things out, but was the right thing to do on this project.
Soon I'll need another project... it is really a necessary thing for my sanity. I think the '84 FJ goes under the knife next, but after the summer.
You ready to unblock me on your PMs yet?
Frank
Awesome Frank
Great attention to detail looks a million dollars :good:
Phil
Beautiful Z Frank, Always loved those!
See you at WRC
Pebble Beach material, just beautiful Frank!
What's your plans for your '84?
That Z is super nice! great find on the bmw also.... very nice rides. :good2:
Quote from: racerman_27410 on April 29, 2017, 10:12:43 PM
...very nice rides.
True Frank, but the Wiz is still the most powerful toy in the box... Just love that bike.
Frank
Quote from: Flynt on April 29, 2017, 10:39:38 AM
You ready to unblock me on your PMs yet?
Frank
My apologies Frank, I thought I did that ages ago.
Done.
I'll steel myself for your next PM :biggrin:
Noel
Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 29, 2017, 04:45:53 PM
What's your plans for your '84?
I don't have one. I'm thinking a good cleanup (frame straightening, powder coat some stuff, paint engine, etc) along with going to 17" wheels and the associated mods. I'll think this one through for a bit and maybe start late in the Fall.
Frank
Frank, I seem to remember you saying you were gonna leave that FJ stock ... My how the times change ..
I am sure you will come up with something wonderful. How bout a supercharger?
Things change....
Mark, I seem to recall saying to you that the FJ engine was powerful enough in stock form.... :crazy:
How many years ago was that?
12?
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 01, 2017, 01:15:46 AM
Things change....
Mark, I seem to recall saying to you that the FJ engine was powerful enough in stock form.... :crazy:
How many years ago was that?
12?
Come on Pat. No such thing as powerful enough.... Well maybe a top fuel motor.. might be a little more than enough.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 01, 2017, 01:15:46 AM
Things change....
Mark, I seem to recall saying to you that the FJ engine was powerful enough in stock form.... :crazy:
How many years ago was that?
12?
Yeah, WCR Petaluma ...As you polished my clutch cover for a burger. imparting the wisdom of an FJ Guru to a newbie Rally virgin.
Fantastic time that made me a long time rally attendee. :good2:
And DONE! Of course there are a couple thing to sort, but the final polish is done, badges on, and ready to show next Saturday. Quick little bastard as well. Here's the synopsis:
Outside:
before:
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after:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4156/33821215334_14fda8cbfa_c.jpg)
Inside:
before:
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after:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4170/33821216544_cae3983d47_c.jpg)
The car is delightful and was a wonderful project. Also threw a new rotor and pads on the back of Wiz so I can haul Diane around Coloma in style...
Taking the family to dinner to celebrate... Happy Mother's Day!
Frank
Very nice Frank, the car is a very good reflection of it's owner.
So the z cars joined forces for the show tomorrow... I cleaned up the freshly restored Beauty, then Diane brought the Breast home as a surprise and I cleaned a while longer. Should be a fun day with the Datsun loyalists.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4160/34727884076_88786ecbeb_c.jpg)
Frank