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Here is the 86 bike that I am restoring. My intention was to document the whole journey however it seemed as though I never remembered to take pictures. I purchased the bike for 450 bucks and stripped it to the bare frame. The frame, tail section, faring stay, kick stand, and motor mounts were powder coated. I spent approximately 5 hours off and on over the course of about a month or two detailing the engine, polishing the stainless exhaust, and fork tubes. All the swing arm bearings were in great shape. The wheel bearings and steering head bearings were replaced. New fork seals installed. Carburetors were rebuilt and cleaned by Paul Wagar. Within the next month it will be complete.
The flying FJ looks nice ! Looks like it will be ready for spring time. :good2:
George
Hey there fj johnnie,
Looks like we have the same project in mind! I am new to the forum and wondered how do you add pictures?
Keep us posted,
Swifty
Quote from: Swifty on December 28, 2013, 05:00:24 PM
Hey there fj johnnie,
Looks like we have the same project in mind! I am new to the forum and wondered how do you add pictures?
Keep us posted,
Swifty
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This is my first attempt at doing a complete tear down. I did not do anything to the motor other than clean it. I was fortunate to start with a bike in very good condition. The frame was rusty and the bike was very dirty however the PO had actually kept very good care of it mechanically. I also received a factory FJ manual with a complete service history . I have no clue what I will do with it. If anyone is interested in a very nice 86 I may sell it. I am under no illusions that it is worth a whole lot, nor will I make any money on it. It has been a project that I simply enjoyed doing.
As far as posting pictures my son did it for me. He was " showing me how", however I didn't learn much in the 12 seconds it took him to do it. I remember something about photo bucket, or maybe he wants me to kick the bucket I don't know.
you need to take pictures of what exactly that thing is being held up by. That a concrete garage with steel attachments up there?
Okay I will post some pictures. I have a 12 inch steel beam sitting on concrete block walls that separate one garage section from the other. I have a friend who runs a company that rents equipment in the mining industry. He had a trolley made for me with a 3 ton capacity. I bought from him an electric chain fall. My idea was to only use it for lifting the frame onto the motor. However ,once I had the motor in it was so handy to raise and lower it or drag it back and forth, that it has been hanging ever since. When I leave the shop I simply lift it up as high as it will go, and it is safe and sound. I have a lift as well which I will eventually drop the bike onto.
FJ Johnnie; Did you get a chance to drive it before you took it apart. I think if you feel the majestic attitude of this machine you my change your mind. I've had two 1100's before and for some reason they didn't compare to the FJ. It's not the speed or the power.
It's like napalm smells like victory! :nyam1:
I just realized that you already have an FJ and that you've been around here longer than I have. Sorry.
No apology needed. I like the way you encouraged me to keep it!! I am in no need to sell it. I am recognizing that I may have a problem however, as there are a few other bikes in my garage as well as three FJ's. 90,86 and a recently acquired low mileage 84 that is in very nice condition . It needs the same treatment as the 86 you see hanging.
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Here is my lift for hanging the bike.
Looks like you got it covered ! Nice trolly lift and it looks like you are parked on a motorcycle lift to boot. If I had that many FJ's it would keep me broke :good2: They would probably send me off to some kind of a support group.......................
All kidding aside that is a nice bike. Keep the project going. :drinks:
George
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You know it is cold when the snow plow still has snow on it in inside the building...
Randy - RPM
Thanks George. It is moving along. In a previous life I left a trail of unfinished projects. Now I will not start another until the last one is done.
You are very observant Randy. It has snowed the last two days. I cleaned my driveway four times since Monday. Last year I cleaned it four times total. The funny thing is that with the woodstove on, and the tunes on as well I can spend the whole day there, cleaning something that no one will ever see. And I love every minute of it. It was -15 Celsius today and it is not possible to ride. So the next best thing is to spend time getting prepared. Do every job that needs doing.
Here is the frame after powder coating
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Oops I am posting these pictures all jumbled up, similar to my conversations. Bouncing back and forth. This is the motor and bike as I disassembled it
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The stainless pipes re-installed.
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She's alive!!! The old girl purrs like a Kitten. I forgot to plug the vacuum line for the petcock so idle was a little funny.
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All that is left is to install the stainless lines for the brakes and clutch, and stop the vacuum leak at the fuel petcock. The petcock works fine however will not hold vacuum. It seems the seal around the wires is leaking .
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And in addition this old girl showed up last fall. 25,000 original k's. $380 bucks how could I say no?
Awesome dude....
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Wow, John. What a CLEAN FJ!! Good on ya!
Way to go John! Kudos!,
Nice work on the frame and those stainless steel header tubes. The bike looks bitchen.
Before you start the engine and heat up those shiney header tubes, wipe them down (twice) with lacquer thinner or alcohol to get off any oils or finger prints which may be on the metal.
If not, once you heat up those ss tubes, you will see every area where you touched them.
They will stain.
Good job! I love to see this kind of work...... Pat
Thanks Pat. Good tip. So much to learn.
Quote from: fj johnnie on February 10, 2014, 07:56:56 PM
And in addition this old girl showed up last fall. 25,000 original k's. $380 bucks how could I say no?
You should have said no just on principle :yes: You can't buy a minibike for that money. I'm gonna be sick :hang1:
Quote from: Joe Sull on February 12, 2014, 06:34:39 PM
Quote from: fj johnnie on February 10, 2014, 07:56:56 PM
And in addition this old girl showed up last fall. 25,000 original k's. $380 bucks how could I say no?
You should have said no just on principle :yes: You can't buy a minibike for that money. I'm gonna be sick :hang1:
That's what happens when you check almost daily. Some people have no clue what to ask. Some people don't care. Some people just want to see the tail lights as soon as possible. A few of my buddies want me to buy their next bikes. The 1200 was only $450. The tank and all the plastics have original paint.
Johnnie, I gotta ask....did you by chance, bring a gun with you when you bought this bike?
And yea, can I get on your list for my next bike?
Well done. :good2:
You picked the best year to restore --- hope I don't start something here......
Also, I learned something the hard way today --- when I pulled the motor on my 86 I can't remember just dropping it out with the lower frame attached --- maybe I did --- from your pics it looks so simple but I remember putting the motor back in was a little more difficult.
anyways -- beautiful bike
Wow, very nice.
Great work on the restoration!
Just a question on the side, what kind of camera did you use to take the pictures?
They are quite sharp and clear, nice colours...
Take care,
Nat
Quote from: WhiteBeard on February 15, 2014, 12:38:16 AM
Wow, very nice.
Great work on the restoration!
Just a question on the side, what kind of camera did you use to take the pictures?
They are quite sharp and clear, nice colours...
Take care,
Nat
I agree with Nat.
The experience of following a thread with pictures this sharp is delightful!
Cheers
Ken
Canon rebel T2i. The credit for the good pictures go to my son. The crap ones are my iPhone. I am really bad at taking pictures, but when I start my 84 resto then I will try to take more pictures and try to make a more coherent posting of the process.
My first FJ was an 86 I bought in 87. The 90 I have has grown on me color wise but I must admit the ambulance colors are classic. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder however. The worst memory of the 86 was occasionally thinking, damn this thing is a bit heavy, but that was under extreme braking.
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Here are the pictures of the completed 86. A few little PITA issues still remain. The front brake needs to be bled as it is not perfect. Also the rear shock is no longer functioning properly. I do have a spare that can be used. Aside from that I need a couple shorter bolts to secure the horn as the splitter block for the front brake lines is no longer needed. I installed stainless brake lines . Runs good. Petcock issues have been resolved by applying a sealant to the rubber grommet the wires pass through. Now it will hold vacuum. Now all I can do is look at it. It was a fun project, and I now understand why some guys do this over and over again. It was a cheap way to entertain myself.
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This is the current job. I had installed a Givi rack to the rear sub-frame of this bike. I over loaded the rearmost cross member of the sub frame with the rack/ top case. I had a quarter by inch and a half plate bent and welded in to replace the broken piece. It is now at the powder coater. When doing this I discovered my battery had run dry. So I ordered a voltage regulator from Randy. A new Michelin Pilot Road 2 is on its way. Spring get your arse down here. This winter has driven me over the edge. And the only cure is Kokaloo!!!!
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Beautiful work!
Thank you.
great work fj johnnie ..
just an observation,, is the line that goes from the front caliper to anti dive valve correct in going inwards of the fork tubes as u are showing in the last pic?
Tony
Yes Tony, that is the correct route on the anti dive line (inside the fork lower)however the banjo fitting should have a angle so the line does not come straight down to the anti dive. Less stress on the line that way.
Very nice work Johnnie.
Glad you answered that for me Pat. I wasn't sure. When re-assembling I looked at my untouched 84, and they run this way as well. There certainly is some stress at the fitting. Anyone interested in buying an 86? I have too many of these things.
Really nice job, Johnnie. I think they might put her in penthouse.
Does that mean she needs to be undressed? I just put her together!
Fear not, I'm sure they would go with a few upskirt shots :empathy3:
That restoration turned out awesome!!! I will be getting back at my 84 hopefully this summer. Time and money is always a factor.... :dash2:
Seeing the pictures as you went along shows the fruits of the work you put into it. I can tell you enjoyed it, and are happy with the results.
I'm sure there were times you could have 'pulled your hair out' ... Or were frustrated....
What would you say was the most difficult task? What parts were hard to find? Any? Were any costs triple what you had planned on?
As I think back on the process, many little thing comes to mind. When stripping the bike I noticed that the frame had a dent in it right where the fairing bolts on.( The frame and side air scoop ). I tried removing the dent but was unsuccessful. My local welding shop cut the backside of the frame out and pressed the dented area out. Then he welded the piece back in to the backside of the frame. Then he ground the whole are smooth. There is no filler or anything to smooth it out and once powder coated it cannot be seen as a repair. At the same time he removed the steering head bearing race. That job is a pain in the caboose.
I installed the speedo / tach cluster before installing the speedo cable. Installing the speedo cable afterwards is a pain.
When reinstalling the shock , swingarm , linkage and chain I must have removed it all four times before I got the order correct. ( It's called tunnel vision.) Re-installing the airbox with the tail section on is another mistake I won't make again. It is not impossible to do but takes a long time and lots of fiddling.
As far as costs are concerned I must say that because of the condition of the bike when I purchased it the cost was relatively insignificant. Frame, tail section , fairing stay and misc bits came to $270. New brake pads, another $90. Stainless lines, $170. I think I spent $300 with Randy, clutch kit, master cylinder kit, trip meter knob, oil filter adapter, wheel bearings, speedo cable, steering head bearings, sprocket lock washer,misc. grommets etc. The bike came with a corbin seat which was re-covered and a good spare from my 90 went on this one. It also came with the original windscreen, and a Givi screen that is much taller than the factory one.
So all totalled including the cost of the bike $1730. If I add my hours in , about the same as an FJR!. I learned a lot. The next one will take longer and me more involved. I am certainly doing another one as the 84 was test fired recently and runs beautifully. It will get the full blown moditis treatment. ( hopefully )
Beautifly done. Yes, you already have full blown moditus. There is no known cure. :sarcastic: Dave
How much do you want to sell her for johnnie?
$3000. or best offer. I am flexible . I know they aren't really worth much. Which is why I bought it in the first place. I don't care either way, if it sells or not. I have five bikes now so.......