What's your opinion on heated liners vs heated gloves?
I'm trying to decide what would be better to buy. Looking for pros and cons on both.
I find a heated jacket liner (Gerbing in my case and a full liner with heated arms, not just the vest) completely eliminates cold hands or feet when you wear decent insulated gloves/boots. I've had heated grips and heated liners before, never used them since it was just easier to throw on the jacket liner and plug into bike as needed.
I do live in Cali however, so I don't really ride in sub-40's much if ever... your experience may be different.
Frank
I know your original question did not include heated grips, but I have to say after having them on the bike for this year's worth of riding season, I love them!
With heated grips, you are able to choose whatever style of gloves you want to wear........................Just my personal preference, but I am not a fan of padded gloves (in the palm area) Most cold-weather gloves are too bulky for me, and having heated glove liners inside your regular gloves would just add more bulk.
I feel disconnected from the bars if the gloves have padding.............................I like good knuckle, and wrist protection. My summer riding gloves are just fine with the heated grips. They get plenty hot even on cold mornings. :drinks:
I pulled the trigger on a heated jacket liner, socks and gloves a year ago. Bought the jacket liner, socks, and controls from Warm and Safe. And bought the Gerbing G3 gloves from a private owner who used them little. It's an investment, but I'm just another long time rider who realized that it was something that I should've done years ago.
Warm and Safe is a top flight company whose owner takes calls personally, and takes time to answer questions and offer advice. Plus, he's a past owner ofca FJ1200, so you know he's a good guy! :good2:
I had heated grips, decent ones (Oxford), on a previous bike that I owned. Heated gloves are much bbetter than heated grips. They envelope your hands in warmth, not just your palms and the insides of your fingers. At any real speed and cold temps, your fingers will get cold, and numb with heated grips. At least that's been my experience.
An FJ puts out plenty of excess power for heated gear, so no worries there either.
Good luck on your decision making.
Marty
I googled 'heated gloves vs heated liners' and on an ATV site I read this post, it lines up with what Frank said about keeping your torso warm:
"I'll tell you the trick to this, been riding a LONG time in frigid weather.
The secret to cold weather riding is to keep your torso warm, so you want your plug in heated gear as a vest or jacket liner, before you do gloves. Your body will keep your blood in your torso to keep your vital organs warm, and it reduces blood flow to your extremities. Once you get that vest liner heated up, its amazing how comfortable your feet and toes will be with normal (non-heated) cold weather gear. Your body will increase the blood flow to your arms and legs as soon as your core temperature is good.
The are of largest heat loss is your neck, so you wear a gaiter between your neck and helmet to keep that area from cooling.
I have never owned a pair of heated gloves or socks and I ride to 20 degrees. Don't need 'em with the above method, though I do have heated grips on my Adventure bike. Most the time I won't even turn them on when using the heated liner, they're there for those fall days when I don't use heated gear and get caught out after the sun goes down, etc."
X2 on Warm and Safe. Excellent company with excellent gear.
Quote from: FJ1100mjk on November 16, 2013, 04:42:52 PM
I had heated grips, decent ones (Oxford), on a previous bike that I owned. Heated gloves are much better than heated grips. They envelope your hands in warmth, not just your palms and the insides of your fingers. At any real speed and cold temps, your fingers will get cold, and numb with heated grips. At least that's been my experience.
That's been my experience too...
Dan
Quote from: Bminder on November 16, 2013, 05:33:56 PM
The are of largest heat loss is your neck...
the Gerbing liner has an integrated collar that zips up to cover your neck and is heated... I don't need anything else and have never run the thing at more than 1/3 of the total range. I'm burning at 1/2 of range.
I do snow ski a bunch in VERY cold weather... a lesson I learned early is put on another core layer if your hands or feet are cold. Adding layers to the extremities actually makes them colder by squeezing the blood out of them.
Try the heated jacket... it has plugs for heated gloves if you still think you need them.
Frank
I've had heated grips and have a heated jacket and gloves, (Gerbing). The grips are good if you're doing shorter rides or commuting, but if it's longer or really cold, the heated gear is the way to go.
You won't believe how nice it is, you can suddenly focus on riding again, instead of doing mental math of "how long until I can wash my hands in a hot sink?" :yahoo:
As far as gloves versus vest, um, it's difficult to skip the vest and go straight to gloves. Do the heated jacket liner and go from there. I don't use mine a lot, but when I do, it's a lifesaver. (Almost literally.)
:wacko1: Ahhhh, warmth.
If it gets around 30 or so, a heated jacket is not enough, in my experience. I mean, you can do it if you have to, but it isn't fun. 40 and above, and you're fine with just heavy gloves and a heated liner.
(And a balaclava and suitable pants, of course.)