Hey, you play drums right? I got interested and picked up a kit (Tama) and am learning slowly, but... er well slowly. Been looking at videos of the greats like Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Hal Blaine. These guys were something else, but I'm just in it to get a solid set of basics a few fills and look to hang out with a band for fun. I'm hitting the rudiments, but I find them boring after a while. Trying to collect a few grooves that are alternative to my fairly good standard rock 2,4.
Andy
Quote from: andyoutandabout on November 13, 2013, 09:52:39 PM
Hey, you play drums right? I got interested and picked up a kit (Tama) and am learning slowly, but... er well slowly. Been looking at videos of the greats like Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Hal Blaine. These guys were something else, but I'm just in it to get a solid set of basics a few fills and look to hang out with a band for fun. I'm hitting the rudiments, but I find them boring after a while. Trying to collect a few grooves that are alternative to my fairly good standard rock 2,4.
Andy
Hey Andy....that sounds great....you named the best...Neil Peart actually took some more lessons from Gene Krupa a few years ago....trying to embrace the Balletic motion of drumming...the dance of drumming per ce.
And what more can be said about Buddy Rich.....he is and always will be the King !!!
I never took drum lessons.....but I fell in love with them when I was a little boy (7).....my cousin, Peter John, had a set of Ludwigs and when I saw and heard him play......I was hooked !!! I began to hit everything with my hands....especially the top of my desk at school.......my brother picked up the guitar and there were enough drummers around our neighborhood......and being a pretty boy...my brother would push me in front of the mic.....but whenever I had the chance I would sneak behind the drums and play. I loved music...still do.....and whenever I would listen to a song.... I always focused on the drums....and that is how I learned....just listening and trying to figure out what the heck he was doing.........then I would throw on some songs with easy drumming and just played along.....in the beginning, I would play along to Alice Cooper.....Led Zepplin......and over the years of digesting different songs and different drummers, I eventually got to be able to play along with some pretty incredible drummers.
My go to exercise is back and forth with the high hat and bass drum...and just spend 20 minutes on paradiddles...up and down he set......foot work is key and snare rolls. It is a lot like driving a standard...push in the clutch, release the gas, shift the stick and steer the wheel....at first it is tricky....but after time, you're ready for the race track. Pm me if ever I can be of any assistance.
Kev
PS....I have been thinking about starting a thread in the Video section.....and calling it CanD's Corner. There people will be able to post video of their passion for music....any instrument...any song....would that interest anyone else besides me?
Andy, you need to learn your style by watching Steve Moore................................and we all want a performance at next year's WCR :sarcastic:
this drummer is at the wrong gig (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItZyaOlrb7E#)
I was thinking ....might be better to start off learning some technical stuff first before learning to twirl the sticks........or arms in this case......the kiddies may like that style.....but personally, I think the guy looks like an idiot.... :nea:
....here...have a list to Neil
Neil Peart- 1994- Counterparts Tour- Drum Solo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeBHil1qSIM#)
Funny, I had remarked to myself that Neil Peart was also 'one of the greats' when the original post was put up there, and now, there he is....
Dan
Peart also writes a damn good motorcycle travel experiences book (in fact, several of them).
I was never a big Rush fan, but he's a hell of a drummer!
How about this guy - Sandy Nelson -
Sandy Nelson Drum Solo (Rare-You Haven't Seen This Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv7JTIKUORY#)
Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on November 14, 2013, 03:28:25 PM
Peart also writes a damn good motorcycle travel experiences book (in fact, several of them).
I was never a big Rush fan, but he's a hell of a drummer!
I think I read that he rode/ (rides?) his bike to almost all of the Rush concerts.
Thought that was cool.
Dan
Yep all those guys, I play nothing like them of course. That's just years and years and years of dedication. Much as I like listening to music, actually producing it is a hard won joy at the moment. I'm finding it more of a chore than a pleasure, but you never know, perseverance might get it (but at what cost). Don't be expecting any greatness between here and the next WCR.
I think CanD corner is a top idea. Wonder how many Fjers can play something? That could be the fjers winter challenge. Those in the colder parts have plenty of months to pick up an instrument and give it a go. Us poor Californians don't really have a down season so pity us and our low playing practice times, coz we're out on the bikes most likely. Oh hum thems the breaks
Andy
Quote from: Dan Filetti on November 14, 2013, 05:14:03 PM
Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on November 14, 2013, 03:28:25 PM
Peart also writes a damn good motorcycle travel experiences book (in fact, several of them).
I was never a big Rush fan, but he's a hell of a drummer!
I think I read that he rode/ (rides?) his bike to almost all of the Rush concerts.
Thought that was cool.
Dan
After the death of his daughter and then a year later his wife died.....the guy just got on his bike and rode.....for a year I think......I guess like the rest of us...he needed to get away and work things out.......
Haven't seen anything from him lately, but he rides to all the concert cities rain or shine (BMW GS). Spends his free time studying maps and planning back routes to the venues.
The rest of the band takes care of all the logistics and lets Neil do all the riding he wants. He is usually accompanied by a local friend (or road crew member) on all his rides. I've only read Far and Away, but it was a very good read. I knew nothing about him prior to the book, but he's got a huge chunk of respect from me after reading what he's been through (both on the bike and in personal life).
Brian Catterson (ex-Motorcyclist editor) accompanied Peart on several rides and several chapters of Far and Away appeared in the mag while he was composing it.
Neil Peary has got to be mentioned as one of the top percussionists of all time. Just the size and complexity of his kits is amazing however, John Bonham still gives me goosebumps listening to his thunder. His kid ain't half bad either
Quote from: FJscott on November 14, 2013, 08:14:35 PM
Neil Peary has got to be mentioned as one of the top percussionists of all time. Just the size and complexity of his kits is amazing however, John Bonham still gives me goosebumps listening to his thunder. His kid ain't half bad either
Peart not Peary ( damn apple)
One drummer that I don't think too many have ever heard of was Jon Hiseman of " Colosseum ".....I stumbled on this solo he did in 1970 when I checking out my fav band "Jethro Tull" and was blown away...check out this drum solo.....remember 1970.....pretty amazing...... the solo starts at 22:44 and ends at 25:00.......blew me away
Beat Club - 1970 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWs95xRwJK4#)
You would know Kevin of the late great Jeff Porcaro, from my favourite group Toto. He had feeling and technique on the drums that simply blows me away. I've watched his you-tube training vids and they are fantastic.
Funny thing is I've been playing bass for around 4 years now, absolutely love it. My neighbours across the road had a pub band in Brisbane in the late 80s, and every Thursday night we get together in their music room to play, I'm getting better but my fingers are still a bit slow. You should visit on your trip Downunder and play with us one night!
Quote from: X-Ray on November 15, 2013, 05:37:20 AM
You would know Kevin of the late great Jeff Porcaro, from my favourite group Toto. He had feeling and technique on the drums that simply blows me away. I've watched his you-tube training vids and they are fantastic.
Funny thing is I've been playing bass for around 4 years now, absolutely love it. My neighbours across the road had a pub band in Brisbane in the late 80s, and every Thursday night we get together in their music room to play, I'm getting better but my fingers are still a bit slow. You should visit on your trip Downunder and play with us one night!
Now we're talkin...that sounds perfect.....I'm in !! Give me a list of the types of tunes you like and I will familiarize myself...... Africa by Toto is a fav of mine.....the vocal harmonies are just awesome !!!!
So Ray....if I start a post in the Video section for musicians....will you post something? hmmmmmm? :good2:
Quote from: FJscott on November 14, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: FJscott on November 14, 2013, 08:14:35 PM
Neil Peary has got to be mentioned as one of the top percussionists of all time. Just the size and complexity of his kits is amazing however, John Bonham still gives me goosebumps listening to his thunder. His kid ain't half bad either
Peart not Peary ( damn apple)
And of course it's pronounced "Peert", not "Pert" as most people say it.
Zwartie
Does anyone know what town he is from....hmmmmmmm? and can anyone name the previous drummer Before ole Neil took over?
Jeopardy Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wi8Fv0AJA4#)
now............if I was to post a Rush song on CanD's Corner.....which one would you like me to play? could be any song you want......except Lakeside Park.......lol...... and no.....you can't say 2112 the whole album...that would take weeks...... :dash2: .
Toronto and Ringo Starr? What did I win? :-)
Rush-Making Memories (Lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vygLzeNMiDI#)
Quote from: CanDman on November 15, 2013, 12:22:40 PM
now............if I was to post a Rush song on CanD's Corner.....which one would you like me to play? could be any song you want......except Lakeside Park.......lol...... and no.....you can't say 2112 the whole album...that would take weeks...... :dash2: .
Yeah, that would be too much.
Just the 'A' side will do... :pardon:
Quote from: not a lib on November 15, 2013, 03:09:15 PM
Quote from: CanDman on November 15, 2013, 12:22:40 PM
now............if I was to post a Rush song on CanD's Corner.....which one would you like me to play? could be any song you want......except Lakeside Park.......lol...... and no.....you can't say 2112 the whole album...that would take weeks...... :dash2: .
Yeah, that would be too much.
Just the 'A' side will do... :pardon:
that's it ? You sure......? :rofl:
Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on November 15, 2013, 01:58:39 PM
Toronto and Ringo Starr? What did I win? :-)
Wrong Buzzer Sound Effect (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uRCKtaOCU#)
....a trip to the back of the line....... (popcorn)
ANOTHER FAV OF MINE
Phil Collins e Chester Thompson live in Wembley (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTslOp5sBNQ#)
Can't deny Phil is a top drummer, even if I find some of his songs a bit weak.
Meanwhile I bought a book and it gave this advice - learn to read music and find a tutor.
So I started reading drum music and it's not all that hard, but it is hard to read and play steady or with any speed except kinda slow.
As far as a tutor - well they are expensive things, but christmas is coming so you never know.
Andy
St. Catherines, of course - or more accurately, Port Dalhousie. And the "original" drummer was John Rutsey (RIP). Here's a nice clip of the band playing Working Man. My 12 year old son (named Alex) can play it pretty well on guitar - except for the crazy solo, but he's getting there...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB6sRQQBH6E
CanDman, if you're taking requests, might I suggest La Villa Strangiato?
Zwartie
Quote from: CanDman on November 15, 2013, 12:22:40 PM
Does anyone know what town he is from....hmmmmmmm? and can anyone name the previous drummer Before ole Neil took over?
Jeopardy Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wi8Fv0AJA4#)
now............if I was to post a Rush song on CanD's Corner.....which one would you like me to play? could be any song you want......except Lakeside Park.......lol...... and no.....you can't say 2112 the whole album...that would take weeks...... :dash2: .
Quote from: CanDman on November 15, 2013, 12:22:40 PM
Does anyone know what town he is from....hmmmmmmm? and can anyone name the previous drummer Before ole Neil took over?
Quote from: Zwartie on November 25, 2013, 09:53:48 PM
St. Catherines, of course - or more accurately, Port Dalhousie. And the "original" drummer was John Rutsey (RIP). Here's a nice clip of the band playing Working Man. My 12 year old son (named Alex) can play it pretty well on guitar - except for the crazy solo, but he's getting there...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB6sRQQBH6E
CanDman, if you're taking requests, might I suggest La Villa Strangiato?
Zwartie
Ok Ben.......since you got the Quiz right (Neil Peart's home town of St. Catherines and the original drummer being the late John Rutsey) plus you went to Alaska........I will do La Villa Strangiato....I do know it well but I will work at sandblasting some of the rust off first. Give me a week or two..... :blush:
I will PM you when I post it
CanDman
Guys, I played drums for only about a dozen years. Did a wedding, a party or five, etc. Not quite as long as I played a piano, but I found it a lot easier to make music on drums, and horrible noises on a piano. :bad:
Tama is great stuff, but bring your helicoil kit. My experience was that they loved to pull the threads through when you tightened stuff down (kick drum spurs in particular!). Always loved their pedals too... nylon straps and mild mods to increase spring tension means you can get really great control even at high speeds. I used a set of very, very old Zildjians for most cymbals, but a newer set of hats of forgettable name and my china was whatever hunk of spun crap I could get for free and bash into a proper shape with a marching stick... usually sounding the best until they fell apart! Sabian AAX is what I'd have gotten if the funds had been available. Their 'stage' ride was brilliant, if a little light, and decidedly too small (21").
But where's all the really great drummers in these examples? I mean, plainly this won't be a style of music you guys listen to, but c'mon.... Just from the top of my head:
Raymond Herrera (Fear Factory)
Fear Factory - New Promise (with lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s981kdRnlOM#)
(Without the band)
Fear Factory - New promise (drum video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvWJ6qX66dU#noexternalembed)
Chris Adler (Lamb of God)
Lamb Of God - Redneck - Chris Adler High Definition 1080p (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUKsW2l5jZM#ws)
Nevermind Dave Lombardo, Vinnie Paul....
That said, playing jazz is as much fun to play as it is awful to listen to, big band stuff is even more fun (triple points for ska!), and the most fun I've ever had playing was with a country band, because the feel of country meshes so nicely with the feel of metal--i.e., get in front of the beat and PUSH!
C'mon guys, open your horizons a bit. There's a bit of something to learn from all types of music that you can go back and apply to what you love, and in the process you get to meet and hear all sorts of strange and wonderful things!
Like a group of Canadians that want to play techno but seem to be afraid of computers...
Holy Fuck - Echo Sam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGeavv1B2AA#)
Edit: Some of the guys I see listed in other posts are definitely very good drummers, but on the whole I'm pretty much down on the pop-y major key lovesong sorta music, as you perhaps have guessed! A coworker was playing with my ipod and after looking pained whilst listening her way through my music via shuffle said, "You're obviously a drummer. And a misanthrope." Right on both counts, I think!
Haven't played in ages, sadly. After a nasty crash in 2001, I've got some limits on the movement in my left shoulder that makes playing the sort of thing that I enjoy even harder than it was when I was trying to develop the chops to manage it in the first place :(
Quote from: CanDman on November 25, 2013, 10:15:02 PM
Quote from: CanDman on November 15, 2013, 12:22:40 PM
Does anyone know what town he is from....hmmmmmmm? and can anyone name the previous drummer Before ole Neil took over?
Quote from: Zwartie on November 25, 2013, 09:53:48 PM
St. Catherines, of course - or more accurately, Port Dalhousie. And the "original" drummer was John Rutsey (RIP). Here's a nice clip of the band playing Working Man. My 12 year old son (named Alex) can play it pretty well on guitar - except for the crazy solo, but he's getting there...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB6sRQQBH6E
CanDman, if you're taking requests, might I suggest La Villa Strangiato?
Zwartie
Ok Ben.......since you got the Quiz right (Neil Peart's home town of St. Catherines and the original drummer being the late John Rutsey) plus you went to Alaska........I will do La Villa Strangiato....I do know it well but I will work at sandblasting some of the rust off first. Give me a week or two..... :blush:
I will PM you when I post it
CanDman
Back of the line for both Zwartie and Candyman, it's St. Catharines, Hah hah. Spellcheck is wrong.
:rofl2:
Back of the line for you too Johnnie....you spelled CanDman wrong !!!! :rofl2: :biggrin: :crazy: :mocking:
Prima donnas.... Get a room...
Oh I think the monkey man started bouncing in his cage at the thought of someone else pounding on the skin.... :mocking:
Is that a double entendre?
It won't beat the one I saw on my recent road trip.
Believe this sign spotted on the back of a fuel tanker -
"Cox - pulling for America"
Honestly you couldn't make this shit up.
Andy
Hand and foot work....at its best !!!!
2009 Yamaha YZF-R1 engine technology explanation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvTXMtTTKQw#)
Drums and bikes - good find. Now I understand the crossplane idea. Be nice to try one.
Andy
Quote from: andyoutandabout on January 08, 2014, 11:35:16 AM
Drums and bikes - good find. Now I understand the crossplane idea. Be nice to try one.
Andy
:shok:.........no kidding.....did you see how fast he moved his left foot back and forth from the kick bass to his high-hat......I need to try that too !!!! :mocking: