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Title: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: Mike 86 in San Dimas on October 09, 2009, 10:13:02 PM
When I hit bumps or dips, even small ones, I hear kind of knock. I tried to replicate by holding front brake and pump the front end, but does not happen. It seems to be front end somewhere. Thought it might be fuel tank float bumping tank, but doubt it. I know potentially it could be many possibilities. Any suggestions I can look in to?

Thanks,
Mike 86 in San Dimas
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: racerman_27410 on October 09, 2009, 10:18:12 PM
feel any notchiness in the steering head bearings?

if you have a way of getting the front end off the ground you may want to do a push pull test and see if you have any slop.

Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: SlowOldGuy on October 09, 2009, 11:32:38 PM
My '85 has done that for years and it drove me crazy.  I finally realized that nothing is trying to fall off and it doesn't bother me anymore.  I think it may be the speedo drive down on the wheel.  There is some slop in the slot.  When the front end compresses, I think the cable may force the drive unit against one side of the alignment boss and cause a clunk.  That's the only thing I've been able to come up with, but I can't confirm it.

DavidR.
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: andyoutandabout on October 10, 2009, 12:49:20 AM
My 86 did similar - turned out to be the front mudguard flapping. The plastic had busted up all around the bolt holes. Cured it with big plastic washers that distribute the bolt pressure over a wider area - held for over a year and aren't really too ugly if you don't stare at them.
Andy F
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: doright1 on October 10, 2009, 09:24:56 AM
Mine was a busted front fender/mudguard too.
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: SlowOldGuy on October 10, 2009, 09:32:31 AM
My front fender is just fine.

What I get is a sharp metallic clunk when the front end compresses hard.  Now that I have the correct straight rate springs, I don't hear it near as often as I did with the weaker springs.

DavidR.
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: the fan on October 10, 2009, 01:01:34 PM
Not sure if its possible on the FJ, but on my old CB900F the tank rubbers were worn out and the tank made a loud clunking noise whenever I hit a bump.
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: SlowOldGuy on October 10, 2009, 01:22:07 PM
Not "bump" related (at least mine is not).  Definitely required significant compression of the front forks before it happens.

DavidR.
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: Mark Olson on October 10, 2009, 01:27:59 PM
Mike,

my 86 does make a  clunk when I take it off the centerstand and sometimes when riding over bumps. I traced it to the spacers in the forks moving around. do you have aftermarket springs in your fj?
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: Marsh White on October 10, 2009, 01:33:48 PM
I think it is the centerstand bouncing up and hitting the frame etc.  The centerstand springs weaken over time and the centerstand sags down a bit.  Over bumps it knocks back up.  The vibration/sound can easily sound like it is coming from the front of the bike when it actually is not.  Go and take your FJ off of the centerstand and try and "Kick" or pull it up to test.

I have remedied this in the past by taking off the spring and twisting the end of the spring "U" tighter (essentially making a new "U" a bit farther back) thereby tightening up the spring - but it is a severe bitch to do this - as the spring metal is thick!  But it can be done with some swear words - some heat would probably help quite a bit too.
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: 56 CHEVY on October 10, 2009, 04:43:21 PM
I've had the same noise in my 86 for years. Spent too many hours trying to locate the source & have never found it. Finally gave up.

I did the same with my center stand spring as Marsh. It solved the nasty banging sound at the rear, but didn't solve the noise at the front.

Dan
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: Klavdy on October 10, 2009, 09:48:49 PM
Your frame may be cracked.
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: teeeeeceeeee on October 11, 2009, 03:36:55 AM
Not wishing to puy a damper on things but my '84 FJ1100 used to do the same thing. It turned out to be about 1-2mm play in the fork lowers that would "clunk" when going over bumps, I had to fit new forks to fix the problem   :bad:.

Try lifting the front wheel off the ground with a jack under the motor and check the forks for any lateral movement.

Hopefully for your sake i'm wrong  :scratch_one-s_head:

TeeCee
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: elbows on October 17, 2009, 04:43:42 PM
go for better ear plugs you wont hear anything !!!!!
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: kenny b on November 07, 2009, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: Mike 86 in San Dimas on October 09, 2009, 10:13:02 PM
When I hit bumps or dips, even small ones, I hear kind of knock. I tried to replicate by holding front brake and pump the front end, but does not happen. It seems to be front end somewhere. Thought it might be fuel tank float bumping tank, but doubt it. I know potentially it could be many possibilities. Any suggestions I can look in to?

Thanks,
Mike 86 in San Dimas
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: kenny b on November 07, 2009, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: Mike 86 in San Dimas on October 09, 2009, 10:13:02 PM
When I hit bumps or dips, even small ones, I hear kind of knock. I tried to replicate by holding front brake and pump the front end, but does not happen. It seems to be front end somewhere. Thought it might be fuel tank float bumping tank, but doubt it. I know potentially it could be many possibilities. Any suggestions I can look in to?

Thanks,
Mike 86 in San Dimas

I have a 92 fj i doubt the mirrors are the same but i had the clunking problem after tinkering around with the bike during the winter.I noticrd there was something loose inside both of the mirrors i definitely believe this is where the noise is coming from. May noy not help the 86 fj but if anyone has a newer 1 positively check your mirrors the original stock mirrors that is




Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: andyoutandabout on November 07, 2009, 09:09:18 PM
The standard Fj mirrors on an 86 certainly have big chunks of metal in them, that clunk around. I had to drill the plastic surrounds and drop them out - they were enormous.
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: junkyardroad on November 07, 2009, 11:11:27 PM
My oversprung inverted fork made a knock on small bumps.  I finally figured out that the too weak rebound dampening combined with too stiff springs was causing the fork to top out. I could not make it happen in the garage.  What weight fork oil do you have?
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: Klavdy on November 27, 2009, 03:33:34 AM
Quote from: andyoutandabout on November 07, 2009, 09:09:18 PM
The standard Fj mirrors on an 86 certainly have big chunks of metal in them, that clunk around. I had to drill the plastic surrounds and drop them out - they were enormous.

Fuck me dead Andy,drilling them?
You've been with the Seppos too long.
Next time use a credit card and a hair dryer, soften the plastic with the hair dryer and pop the mirror out by sliding the credit card underneath it.
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: andyoutandabout on November 30, 2009, 01:45:57 AM
Now that's a clever idea. However I've standard mirrors no more. Cheap EMGO replacements now grace the 86. They lend a most modern look. Spiffing.
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: ren-dog on November 30, 2009, 04:40:58 AM
Quote from: Mike 86 in San Dimas on October 09, 2009, 10:13:02 PM
When I hit bumps or dips, even small ones, I hear kind of knock. I tried to replicate by holding front brake and pump the front end, but does not happen. It seems to be front end somewhere. Thought it might be fuel tank float bumping tank, but doubt it. I know potentially it could be many possibilities. Any suggestions I can look in to?

Hey Mike,
Is it a clunk, bang, clatter or  :bomb:
If you have a little too much run out, or warp, in your front discs
it could simply be the disc pads rattling around.
Does it still make the noise if you hold your front brakes on lightly?
Title: Re: What the heck is causing that noise?!
Post by: elbows on January 06, 2010, 01:59:06 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on October 10, 2009, 01:27:59 PM
Mike,

my 86 does make a  clunk when I take it off the centerstand and sometimes when riding over bumps. I traced it to the spacers in the forks moving around. do you have aftermarket springs in your fj?

mark you are right this is the second set of forks i have rebuilt and the shims to and bottom worn out and when rebuilt the noise has gone and the forks feel fantastic like new again but remember to change the plastic washer as well